The Reason 3-D Will Fail Again

The reason the 3-D gimmick will fail and has failed in the past is for the simple reason that people get sick, and get hurt while playing the games or watching movies in 3-D.

Will you still play in 3-D knowing it will cause you to be ill or permenately degrade your vision?

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The reason the 3-D gimmick will fail and has failed in the past is for the simple reason that people get sick, and get hurt while playing the games or watching movies in 3-D.

Will you still play in 3-D knowing it will cause you to be ill or permenately degrade your vision?

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kuu2

People can get sick and hurt through regular gaming, too. Guess that's headed to failure as well.

Granted, people do get sick. However people also get sick through other forms of gaming also (motion sickness). Whilst it may not be as widespread, it's still a problem.

3D is having a huge push this time around, and it's looking like it'll stick. Both the movie and gaming industry, as well as many manufacturers of entertainment products are pushing for it.

How has 3D "failed in the past"?

I tried it at a local best buy. Made my head hurt so it wont be for me. It's bad for people with bad or uneven eyesight. Which is probably the majority of the population.

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The reason the 3-D gimmick will fail and has failed in the past is for the simple reason that people get sick, and get hurt while playing the games or watching movies in 3-D.

Will you still play in 3-D knowing it will cause you to be ill or permenately degrade your vision?

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Esnedon

People can get sick and hurt through regular gaming, too. Guess that's headed to failure as well.

Granted, people do get sick. However people also get sick through other forms of gaming also (motion sickness). Whilst it may not be as widespread, it's still a problem.

3D is having a huge push this time around, and it's looking like it'll stick. Both the movie and gaming industry, as well as many manufacturers of entertainment products are pushing for it.

lundy86_4

If they're Epileptic they can get sick that way in normal gaming. I get motion sickness but I never got it from a videogame yet. But I can get it watching rides at amusement parks.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Oh yeah, epilepcy is a pretty important one as wel, and all games come with health warnings nowadays regarding things such as extensive playtimes.

I've only known a couple of people to get sick from motion in video games (from personal experience), so I can't see it as being aas big of an issue.

How has 3D "failed in the past"?

XaosII

3D has been around since the fifties. 3D is brought out everytime the movie industry is in a slump. Guess what, the movie industry is slumping again.

and it will be glorious and so real life to everyone else that doesn't get sick, like me

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How has 3D "failed in the past"?

kuu2

3D has been around since the fifties. 3D is brought out everytime the movie industry is in a slump. Guess what, the movie industry is slumping again.

With movies like Toy Story 3 and Kick-a$$? I'd have to disagree there.

Anyway, 3D is an auxiliary function, it's not a necessity. If 3D bothers you, don't use it. I look forward to the 3DS myself.

Lots of people can't play video games because they get motion sickness too, but that doesn't seem to hurt video game sales too much. The question you pose reads like something Fox News would use... it's a closed ended question designed to guide the person to answer in a particular (in this case "Anti-3D") way. If it would permenently degrade the user's vision, it wouldn't be allowed to see the light of day.

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How has 3D "failed in the past"?

calvinsora

3D has been around since the fifties. 3D is brought out everytime the movie industry is in a slump. Guess what, the movie industry is slumping again.

With movies like Toy Story 3 and Kick-a$$? I'd have to disagree there.

Anyway, 3D is an auxiliary function, it's not a necessity. If 3D bothers you, don't use it. I look forward to the 3DS myself.

The reason the 3-D gimmick will fail and has failed in the past is for the simple reason that people get sick, and get hurt while playing the games or watching movies in 3-D.

Will you still play in 3-D knowing it will cause you to be ill or permenately degrade your vision?

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kuu2

This is why it will have success. All of gaming was a gimmick at one point. I am not sure when some gamers are going to understand it's these gimmicks which have moved gaming forward.

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3D has been around since the fifties. 3D is brought out everytime the movie industry is in a slump. Guess what, the movie industry is slumping again.

nintendo-4life

With movies like Toy Story 3 and Kick-a$$? I'd have to disagree there.

Anyway, 3D is an auxiliary function, it's not a necessity. If 3D bothers you, don't use it. I look forward to the 3DS myself.

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How has 3D "failed in the past"?

kuu2

3D has been around since the fifties. 3D is brought out everytime the movie industry is in a slump. Guess what, the movie industry is slumping again.

i honestly see 3d as being something i might use for the first hour of a game to check it out. Then playing 2d afterwards.

I know in movie theaters after about an hour i have to take the glasses off and rub my eyes periodically. It might be better if i can align myself straight on with the tv. But the fact that you are basically tricking your eyes into seeing a way they arent supposed to makes me think that no matter what, eyestrain is going to be a huge problem with any extended 3d viewing.... much more so than 2d viewing.

something like the 3ds though, might be viable for long gaming sessions.. only time will tell.

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3D has been around since the fifties. 3D is brought out everytime the movie industry is in a slump. Guess what, the movie industry is slumping again.

nintendo-4life

With movies like Toy Story 3 and Kick-a$$? I'd have to disagree there.

Anyway, 3D is an auxiliary function, it's not a necessity. If 3D bothers you, don't use it. I look forward to the 3DS myself.

Note that I was most certainly referring to his last sentence alone. On top of that, Kickass was a box office hit in many areas, and is in IMDB's top 200 highest rated films of all time based on user votinglist, I think near the top 70. Toy Story 3 has also been met with shining praise.

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With movies like Toy Story 3 and Kick-a$$? I'd have to disagree there.

Anyway, 3D is an auxiliary function, it's not a necessity. If 3D bothers you, don't use it. I look forward to the 3DS myself.

Note that I was most certainly referring to his last sentence alone. On top of that, Kickass was a box office hit in many areas, and is in IMDB's top 200 highest rated films of all time based on user votinglist, I think near the top 70. Toy Story 3 has also been met with shining praise.

just because your a lemming you think it will fail. haha xbox cant do 3-d so 3-ds owns xbox :P

3D movies failed in the past because studios kept tacking it onto crappy movies in order to sell

this summer has basically been one roaring example of that kind of ineptitude, lots of crappy movies with "in 3D!!!" and jacked up ticket prices

i went with my family to see Toy Story 3 in 2D... it was actually refreshing to see a movie in 2D

as for video games you might see the same thing there too: lots of games with tacked on 3D that's not really all that well made, that's why it was brilliant for Nintendo to put the 3D adjuster on the 3DS because i can't imagine every 2-bit handheld game developer to really know how to make good looking 3D

it's really the same kind of ballpark as motion controls, some devs get it right, lots don't

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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"] Kickass flopped and TS3 supports 3D. your examples fit his argument perfectly :?donalbane

Note that I was most certainly referring to his last sentence alone. On top of that, Kickass was a box office hit in many areas, and is in IMDB's top 200 highest rated films of all time based on user votinglist, I think near the top 70. Toy Story 3 has also been met with shining praise.

I'm glad TS3 is getting all the praise it's getting. And it's true that Kickass really does kick ass :P It's cliche, but it's too awesome.

Anyway, I'm going off topic here :P

How has 3D "failed in the past"?

XaosII

The reason the 3-D gimmick will fail and has failed in the past is for the simple reason that people get sick, and get hurt while playing the games or watching movies in 3-D.

Will you still play in 3-D knowing it will cause you to be ill or permenately degrade your vision?

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kuu2

If I get a headache or something when I generally shouldn't and it is clearly thanks to the 3D effect, then the idea of 3D is a huge turnoff.

Lets just wait and see until journalists get their hands on the real thing and plays it extensively.

But yeah the fact that Nintendo is advising kids under 7 to turn off the 3D effect is indicative of 3D side effects being significantly worse than normal gaming side effects, so yeah this could become a potential problem, especially since gaming sessions can be up to 3 times the running time of Avatar.

Yes. Yes I would. I've seen 3D movies and I know Im fine watching them.darkshadow64

its just Sony cashing in on Avatars succes

nothing more

its a gimmick, it wont last long

As long as there always the option for non 3-D (2D) then I'm fine with it. If I'm forced to play in 3-D, then there's a problem.

Fail TC. Thats not the reason at all. The ONLY reason 3d wont become mainstream is because of the 3d glasses. If and when they make REAL 3d without glasses, is the only time it will become mainstream. Until then its just not practical to buy a pair of expensive glasses for everyone that ever watches your TV. Superbowl parties? 20 pairs? Get lost. People that wear glasses and dont want to wear glasses OVER glasses (its annoying). Until then I see only 1-2% of the market using 3d TV's.

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Enough. Read the damn warning in the manual for every game you've bought, ever. They all have health claims, everything from motion sickness to seizures to death. That's just to cover their rear. Nobody takes breaks, plenty of people play in completely dark rooms, plenty of people play more than eight hours a day, and yet the vast majority of people experience no ill effects from current gaming.

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No one is going to get sick, go blind or die from 3D. Or rather, 5.99999 billion people are going to be just fine, and that 1 kid who dies? Sorry kid, bad genes are bad, eh?

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Enough. Read the damn warning in the manual for every game you've bought, ever. They all have health claims, everything from motion sickness to seizures to death. That's just to cover their rear. Nobody takes breaks, plenty of people play in completely dark rooms, plenty of people play more than eight hours a day, and yet the vast majority of people experience no ill effects from current gaming.

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No one is going to get sick, go blind or die from 3D. Or rather, 5.99999 billion people are going to be just fine, and that 1 kid who dies? Sorry kid, bad genes are bad, eh?

subrosian

I personally think there will be an initially large group of people who will suffer from simulation sickness after prolonged 3D tv usage, but i also think after a few months of it, these people will get used to it much like they have gotten used to standard television viewing. BUT, it is not going to to be an uncommon occurance like you think.

its just Sony cashing in on Avatars succes

nothing more

its a gimmick, it wont last long

Ultizer

I could be wrong, but didn't Sony started talking about 3D before Avatar was even released? Like they started at E3 2009 and Avatar came out in December. :?

Until they make a TV that can show 3D without the glasses it will never catch on to mass appeal. Yeah it's a cool gimmick once in a while, and yeah people will be glad to show their friends their 3D setup when they come over. However more than likely those same people will enjoy 3D for the first few days or week, and go back to playing regular 2D soon after, except when they are showing off.

3D with glasses is just a gimmick, it was tried in the 50's in the 60's in the late 70's and really hard in the 80's. I especially remember the 80's version being the wave of the future, and that we would all be using it by the 90's. Well guess what people get tired of those glasses, and while they are ok for a 2 hour movie, a 6 hour gaming session will take it's toll. Like I said 3D will not catch on until people can do it without the glasses. Nintendo has the right idea, but they need to get it on a bigger screen than on a DS.

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The reason the 3-D gimmick will fail and has failed in the past is for the simple reason that people get sick, and get hurt while playing the games or watching movies in 3-D.

Will you still play in 3-D knowing it will cause you to be ill or permenately degrade your vision?

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Animal-Mother

That is just Sony covering their butts in case someone sues them. >_>

its just Sony cashing in on Avatars succes

nothing more

its a gimmick, it wont last long

Ultizer

Considering Nintendo is also coming out with a form of 3D...

I would love to see the breakdown between the box office numbers for movies seen in 3d as opposed to 2d. I have a feeling that companies won't be sharing that information with the public anytime soon.

Regardless of glasses or no glasses people still will suffer from 3d. It is a trick on your eyes that causes them to hurt. Some studies have suggested up to 30% of people suffer from 3d effects. Thus shrinking the market share of an already smaller market (people who play video games).

That is just Sony covering their butts in case someone sues them. >_>

nintendofreak_2

just wait till the TV's that can do 3d without glasses become better and cheaper. I don't know why anyone would want to rush to get this current glasses required tech that we have now. sure its okay for a movie but do you really want to have those glasses on for more than 2 hours? i see long sessions having the 3d turned off anyway.Ontain

What is the point of having 3d then? If Nintendo is commited to 3d then why include a button to turn off 3d?

How has 3D "failed in the past"?

XaosII

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The reason the 3-D gimmick will fail and has failed in the past is for the simple reason that people get sick, and get hurt while playing the games or watching movies in 3-D.

Will you still play in 3-D knowing it will cause you to be ill or permenately degrade your vision?

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HarlockJC

This is why it will have success. All of gaming was a gimmick at one point. I am not sure when some gamers are going to understand it's these gimmicks which have moved gaming forward.

just because your a lemming you think it will fail. haha xbox cant do 3-d so 3-ds owns xbox :P

crazyduckv2

hahah tooo easy, 360 CAN do 3D infact it has a 3D game on it. try harder next time

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