The Fighting genre NEEDS to be DUMBED DOWN for me and casuals to have some FUN

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#1 Code_Blue_
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I HATE getting my ass kicked on BlazBlue:Continuum Shift 2 Extend 1 because I can't remember how to input carnage scissors or how to use rapid cancel and because i can press 20 buttons in 2 seconds to do a 1 minute 47 hit combo. Its NOT fair or FUN for the people like me that cant devoted 100 hours a day learning how to do every combo with there eyes closed with 1 hand. And WTF is reading frames?!?! how the F does 1 read frames. Please DUMB the fighting genre to 4 simple buttons Punch, Kick, Throw and Block thats all no combos only 3 moves and a block then we all can have FUN.
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I think you need to play Super Smash Bros Brawl then. It's easy play and fun.

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#3 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Play Super Smash Bros Brawl... Or Title Fight that is coming out. When it comes out people will see that the only reason Super Smash Bros is rated high is because Nintendo's characters and nostalgia. It is a glorified party game.
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#4 Code_Blue_
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I think you need to play Super Smash Bros Brawl then. It's easy play and fun.

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I dont have a wii and no plays wii online...play the CPU? LOL what is this last gen??!? get real...
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#5 red12355
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You're a bad troll.
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#6 PSdual_wielder
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You could also try the naruto ultimate ninja games. They're easy to learn, designed for playing on the controller, and tbh they're not bad. Not sure if theres online though.

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#7 Code_Blue_
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You're a bad troll.red12355
How am i trolling...I have over 4000 games played in Blazblue the most hardcore fighting this gen on Hd consoles. Do you even now what trooling is?
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Yeah, BlazBlue is kind of hard to get into. I had to play a good 30 hours to get the hang of it, but I'm still crap. The game is definitely not nice to beginners. It's a very fun game, but I'm just not willing to put the time investment into it. I liked Street Fighter and Smash Bros. more. BlazBlue is not going to be your type of game if you can't devout 100 hours+ to it, and continue playing it to stay pro. The tutorials, while you can see the effort they put into them, are horrible, and the controls are unnecessarily difficult. I want the Vita version though. It really looks like a game I want to master, and the only way to do that is to go portable and play 24/7 :x
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leave my genre the **** alone... i dont need my games dumbed down for the likes of you. [spoiler] yes i know obvious troll is obvious [/spoiler]
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#10 Code_Blue_
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leave my genre the **** alone... i dont need my games dumbed down for the likes of you. [spoiler] yes i know obvious troll is obvious [/spoiler] campzor
how the F am i trolling i have over 4k games played in BlazBlue the most hardcore fighter this gen.....you FAIL
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#11 super600  Moderator
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Don't listen to the TC. He thinks people that like the mario franchise are nostalgic and hate COD.

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#12 worlock77
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That's what I always loved about 'Tekken'. You could pull off some cool sh*t just by mashing buttons. Granted I haven't played that series since 'Tekken 3', so it might have changed.

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Yeah, BlazBlue is kind of hard to get into. I had to play a good 30 hours to get the hang of it, but I'm still crap. The game is definitely not nice to beginners. It's a very fun game, but I'm just not willing to put the time investment into it. I liked Street Fighter and Smash Bros. more. BlazBlue is not going to be your type of game if you can't devout 100 hours+ to it, and continue playing it to stay pro. The tutorials, while you can see the effort they put into them, are horrible, and the controls are unnecessarily difficult. I want the Vita version though. It really looks like a game I want to master, and the only way to do that is to go portable and play 24/7 :xEponique
Yeah i argee, the only way to be good at a fighting game is to play it everyday for about 5 hours...I have a plat in BBCT and over 2.5k games in BBCSE over 200 hours and i still suck
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#14 Lord_Omikron666
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That sounds like a personal problem, because there's already a 'Simple' option you can use to dumb down command inputs, and for BlazBlue specifically you can just mash one button and get a whole combo done for you.

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It's called Super Smash Bros. Have fun with it.
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#16 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Don't listen to the TC. He thinks people that like the mario franchise are nostalgic and hate COD.

super600

So he has an opinion you disagree with? So we should all ignore him...

Plus Nintendo fans brings sales up all the time. COD games are the best selling games. So if the Wii is the best console than COD is the best game.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

Don't listen to the TC. He thinks people that like the mario franchise are nostalgic and hate COD.

Banjo_Kongfooie

So he has an opinion you disagree with? So we should all ignore him...

Plus Nintendo fans brings sales up all the time. COD games are the best selling games. So if the Wii is the best console than COD is the best game.

Did you see his nostalgic thread. His OP was horrible.

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I HATE getting my ass kicked on BlazBlue:Continuum Shift 2 Extend 1 because I can't remember how to input carnage scissors or how to use rapid cancel and because i can press 20 buttons in 2 seconds to do a 1 minute 47 hit combo. Its NOT fair or FUN for the people like me that cant devoted 100 hours a day learning how to do every combo with there eyes closed with 1 hand. And WTF is reading frames?!?! how the F does 1 read frames. Please DUMB the fighting genre to 4 simple buttons Punch, Kick, Throw and Block thats all no combos only 3 moves and a block then we all can have FUN.Code_Blue_

You're a troll, but I'm going to correct you because I'm pretty bored.

If you can't remember simple inputs or a simple three button action, you probably don't need to be playing fighting games or games period. You shouldn't be pressing 20 button in 2 seconds, that might be why you are losing. And if you only do 47 hits in 1 minute, you must be linking some pretty slow normals.

It's perfectly fair. Fighting games should reward you for putting time into them, not something like MvC3 where the developers try to completely erase the skill gap by adding in some BS/dumbed down mechanics so EVRYWUN CN PLY GUD!!!!!

When people say they are reading frames, it's not how people usually think it is. It's learning what moves are punishable and general things like what can link into what or how fast something comes out. You don't actually read frames in game, its a thing you do outside of it.

If you want only 4 buttons, play Blazblue simple mode. Automatic combos, one button for throws, one for specials, all you would want. If you don't want combos, play some OG fighting games, though they probably still have combos, just not as long.

Blazblue already makes the game easy enough as it is. Metric **** tons of hit stun that give you all day to combo for the most part, Incredibly long grab teching time (you can do it on reaction with average reflexes) and automatic 5 frame repeater that keeps doing inputs for a while after you do them,

Still, 0/10. Thank you for giving me something to do though. ;)

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#19 OneSanitarium
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It's called Super Smash Bros. Have fun with it.charizard1605

Maybe at a low level play, but goddamn Melee at high levels. Thats almost as technical as MvC2 at high levels.

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#20 johny300
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Play easier games lo learn how to play Blaze Blue then.
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#21 The__Havoc
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Fighting genre is a niche hardcore genre. It is NOT for casual gamers as it is a competitive tournment inspired genre.

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#22 Kiro0
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Now this here is some decent trolling. Especially the Bioware thread. No one on System Wars ever catches on to when they're being trolled though.

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Now this here is some decent trolling.Kiro0

No it isn't. Not by a long shot.

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#24 Code_Blue_
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[QUOTE="Code_Blue_"]I HATE getting my ass kicked on BlazBlue:Continuum Shift 2 Extend 1 because I can't remember how to input carnage scissors or how to use rapid cancel and because i can press 20 buttons in 2 seconds to do a 1 minute 47 hit combo. Its NOT fair or FUN for the people like me that cant devoted 100 hours a day learning how to do every combo with there eyes closed with 1 hand. And WTF is reading frames?!?! how the F does 1 read frames. Please DUMB the fighting genre to 4 simple buttons Punch, Kick, Throw and Block thats all no combos only 3 moves and a block then we all can have FUN.OneSanitarium

You're a troll, but I'm going to correct you because I'm pretty bored.

If you can't remember simple inputs or a simple three button action, you probably don't need to be playing fighting games or games period. You shouldn't be pressing 20 button in 2 seconds, that might be why you are losing. And if you only do 47 hits in 1 minute, you must be linking some pretty slow normals.

It's perfectly fair. Fighting games should reward you for putting time into them, not something like MvC3 where the developers try to completely erase the skill gap by adding in some BS/dumbed down mechanics so EVRYWUN CN PLY GUD!!!!!

When people say they are reading frames, it's not how people usually think it is. It's learning what moves are punishable and general things like what can link into what or how fast something comes out. You don't actually read frames in game, its a thing you do outside of it.

If you want only 4 buttons, play Blazblue simple mode. Automatic combos, one button for throws, one for specials, all you would want. If you don't want combos, play some OG fighting games, though they probably still have combos, just not as long.

Blazblue already makes the game easy enough as it is. Metric **** tons of hit stun that give you all day to combo for the most part, Incredibly long grab teching time (you can do it on reaction with average reflexes) and automatic 5 frame repeater that keeps doing inputs for a while after you do them,

Still, 0/10. Thank you for giving me something to do though. ;)

Thanks for explaing Frames to me and Simple mode is for noobs that what to win so badly...I want to win the real way and earn my win and FFS im not a troll...
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#25 super600  Moderator
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Now this here is some decent trolling. Especially the Bioware thread. No one on System Wars ever catches on to when they're being trolled though.

Kiro0

It's really horrible and his sig reveals who his original account is.

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#26 nameless12345
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You know, I think it would be cool if Primal Rage returned. Except it would be first-person and a Kinect exclusive.

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#27 OneSanitarium
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Thanks for explaing Frames to me and Simple mode is for noobs that what to win so badly...I want to win the real way and earn my win and FFS im not a troll...Code_Blue_

Well....I hate to break it to you....but you ARE a noob. And you said that you're tired of losing...so...yeah.

Put some time into an already forgiving game or use simple mode. The fighting genre is already dumbed down in its current state as it is. Even KoFXIII (arguably more "hardcore" than Blazblue) is apparently more forgiving and easier than other KoF's. It's still a really good game and makes things easier without completely changing how the game is played.

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...practice instead of going online?
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I HATE getting my ass kicked on BlazBlue:Continuum Shift 2 Extend 1 because I can't remember how to input carnage scissors or how to use rapid cancel and because i can press 20 buttons in 2 seconds to do a 1 minute 47 hit combo. Its NOT fair or FUN for the people like me that cant devoted 100 hours a day learning how to do every combo with there eyes closed with 1 hand. And WTF is reading frames?!?! how the F does 1 read frames. Please DUMB the fighting genre to 4 simple buttons Punch, Kick, Throw and Block thats all no combos only 3 moves and a block then we all can have FUN.Code_Blue_

Maybe you should try playing KOF or UMVC3.

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4000 games and you claim you're not having fun? Do I see something wrong with this picture? I just think you simply suck at the game. Period.
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[QUOTE="Code_Blue_"]I HATE getting my ass kicked on BlazBlue:Continuum Shift 2 Extend 1 because I can't remember how to input carnage scissors or how to use rapid cancel and because i can press 20 buttons in 2 seconds to do a 1 minute 47 hit combo. Its NOT fair or FUN for the people like me that cant devoted 100 hours a day learning how to do every combo with there eyes closed with 1 hand. And WTF is reading frames?!?! how the F does 1 read frames. Please DUMB the fighting genre to 4 simple buttons Punch, Kick, Throw and Block thats all no combos only 3 moves and a block then we all can have FUN.GameboyTroy

Maybe you should try playing KOF or UMVC3.

UMVC3 isnt a real fighting game imo too much BS flashy stuff taking over half the screen and no real headd to head fighting just projeciles
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#32 Code_Blue_
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4000 games and you claim you're not having fun? Do I see something wrong with this picture? I just think you simply suck at the game. Period.XIntoTheBlue
I KNOW I suck thats why i want it DUMBED down...remember..or atleast noob fighting games
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Simple mode is for noobs that what to win so badly...I want to win the real way and earn my win and FFS im not a troll...Code_Blue_

I KNOW I suck thats why i want it DUMBED down...remember..or atleast noob fighting games Code_Blue_

Anybody else seeing the contradiction here? This has got to be the worst troll ever. Not to mention the fact it's an obvious alt account. Change your sig for you next troll attempt...

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get smash bros brawl... it has online...i still use it..it works...just takes a while..

melee and 64 versions are for advanced smash players.. youll get your butt handed on those..

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#35 LegatoSkyheart
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No, No, No, NO, NO!

What's the freakin' point of it then if you're not willing to GET GOOD!

If you're playing a fighting game online and getting your butt handed to you then GET BETTER THAT'S WHY THERE'S A TRAINING MODE!

You make Progress! YOU find the Combos, You're not fed the Combos, YOU beat your opponent, They aren't given to you.

When the Going gets Rough then Tough up and Keep Going!

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Anybody else seeing the contradiction here? This has got to be the worst troll ever. Not to mention the fact it's an obvious alt account. Change your sig for you next troll attempt [quote} ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Simple mode is BlazBlue makes the game play its self...in simple modee you can press 1 button and do a 10 hit combo taking away 3k health...I dont what the game to play itself ffor me that would be bORING not fun...I want a dumbed down FUN game with no big combos and lots of fun where i fell i earn my win and reward.
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[QUOTE="red12355"]You're a bad troll.Code_Blue_
How am i trolling...I have over 4000 games played in Blazblue the most hardcore fighting this gen on Hd consoles. Do you even now what trooling is?

4k games, but can't remember Carnage Scissors.
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#38 Code_Blue_
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[QUOTE="Code_Blue_"][QUOTE="red12355"]You're a bad troll.siLVURcross
How am i trolling...I have over 4000 games played in Blazblue the most hardcore fighting this gen on Hd consoles. Do you even now what trooling is?

4k games, but can't remember Carnage Scissors.

632146 + C or D
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[QUOTE="Code_Blue_"]Anybody else seeing the contradiction here? This has got to be the worst troll ever. Not to mention the fact it's an obvious alt account. Change your sig for you next troll attempt [quote} ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Simple mode is BlazBlue makes the game play its self...in simple modee you can press 1 button and do a 10 hit combo taking away 3k health...I dont what the game to play itself ffor me that would be bORING not fun...I want a dumbed down FUN game with no big combos and lots of fun where i fell i earn my win and reward.

you want a fight where people can only do two attacks. you want the opposite of fun.
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="Code_Blue_"] How am i trolling...I have over 4000 games played in Blazblue the most hardcore fighting this gen on Hd consoles. Do you even now what trooling is?Code_Blue_
4k games, but can't remember Carnage Scissors.

632146 + C or D

Hey, just going by what you said in the OP.
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="Code_Blue_"] How am i trolling...I have over 4000 games played in Blazblue the most hardcore fighting this gen on Hd consoles. Do you even now what trooling is?Code_Blue_
4k games, but can't remember Carnage Scissors.

632146 + C or D

D. it's not hard. also if you can say 632146 and you still can't remember if you press C or D then you're so sad.
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Try Marvel vs. Capcom 3.
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Anybody else seeing the contradiction here? This has got to be the worst troll ever. Not to mention the fact it's an obvious alt account. Change your sig for you next troll attempt [quote} ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Simple mode is BlazBlue makes the game play its self...in simple modee you can press 1 button and do a 10 hit combo taking away 3k health...I dont what the game to play itself ffor me that would be bORING not fun...I want a dumbed down FUN game with no big combos and lots of fun where i fell i earn my win and reward.Code_Blue_

You want a dumbed down fighting game, yet you are already playing one (at least compared to the game that came before it.) as well as ignoring other ones.

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[QUOTE="Code_Blue_"]Anybody else seeing the contradiction here? This has got to be the worst troll ever. Not to mention the fact it's an obvious alt account. Change your sig for you next troll attempt [quote} ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Simple mode is BlazBlue makes the game play its self...in simple modee you can press 1 button and do a 10 hit combo taking away 3k health...I dont what the game to play itself ffor me that would be bORING not fun...I want a dumbed down FUN game with no big combos and lots of fun where i fell i earn my win and reward.BrunoBRS
you want a fight where people can only do two attacks. you want the opposite of fun.

Yeah like Streets of rage but a 2d fighter what would be awesome and fun and hardcore people wouldnt ruin the game because there is no combos or reading frames...no tier list or op moves everyone ome has a 50/50 chance of winiing. = FUN
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#45 killab2oo5
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Dumbing down a fighting game will still mean noobs getting crushed by pros...the skill cap will just be lower for everyone and the shallowness will just offer a lot less of everything. No they don't need to be dumbed down..you just need to fight people at your skill level.
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Yeah like Streets of rage but a 2d fighter what would be awesome and fun and hardcore people wouldnt ruin the game because there is no combos or reading frames...no tier list or op moves everyone ome has a 50/50 chance of winiing. = FUNCode_Blue_

'Hardcore' people ruin the game because they actually like the games enough to learn about them?

Tier lists aren't facts that decide who will always win. And if you make one, every game....ever...will have one.

And you do have a 50/50 chance of winning. You either win, or you lose.

Combos aren't only for the 'hardcore'.

I almost want to say your idea of fun is wrong, as elitist as that sounds.

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#47 Code_Blue_
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[QUOTE="Code_Blue_"][QUOTE="siLVURcross"] 4k games, but can't remember Carnage Scissors.BrunoBRS
632146 + C or D

D. it's not hard. also if you can say 632146 and you still can't remember if you press C or D then you're so sad.

Im sad becausse I cant devote hours and hours of training EVERYDAY to master each character...as well as remember other control schemes...
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#48 ActionRemix
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I have the perfect fighting game for you, TC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOvq3-oG5BM Two attack buttons and the learning curve is very shallow.
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="Code_Blue_"] 632146 + C or DCode_Blue_
D. it's not hard. also if you can say 632146 and you still can't remember if you press C or D then you're so sad.

Im sad becausse I cant devote hours and hours of training EVERYDAY to master each character...as well as remember other control schemes...

Don't need to master every character.
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#50 Ghost_702
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Just don't play online, or try to find noob friendly lobbies. I agree it can be very frustrating playing against people online, but it's still nice to have somewhat complex combos that feel rewarding to achieve.