The Decline of the PS3 in Japan

• February 8th, 2007
• 600,000 PS3s
• Virtua Fighter 5 Copies Sold: 30,000

• December 29th, 2005
• 80,000 Xbox 360s
• Dead or Alive 4 Copies Sold: 60,000

All they need to do is lower the price and get a few games out for the system. I have been saying that for the longest time now it still hasen't happened!Wasdie

All they need to do is lower the price and get a few games out for the system. I have been saying that for the longest time now it still hasen't happened!Wasdie

All they need to do is lower the price and get a few games out for the system. I have been saying that for the longest time now it still hasen't happened!Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]All they need to do is lower the price and get a few games out for the system. I have been saying that for the longest time now it still hasen't happened!supermechakirby

And yet for you, it's all about trolling.

Yes I agree that things look grim for PS3 in Japan but I'm not really worried I know PS3 will sell like 40 million in Japan by the end of its lifecycle, I'm 80% sure but I'll be 100% sure when White Knight Story, FF13/versus 13 and other various japanese RPG's are released in Japan.Moonlight-AB

Yet, according to Famitsu, there's at least 5 most wanted games that are on the PS3 that are (supposingly) coming out this year. It's a slow start, yes. But once some of these high profile games comes out, things will start to shift a bit into the PS3's favor. I didn't see one 360 game on that most wanted. And, as always, the NDS and Wii are a part of that list.

How many big titles have been released there? Not a single MSG game, FF game, DMC game, no Gran Truismo game. Those are system sellers. In Japan they play VF in arcades, not on consoles. I mean the best game so far is Resistance, somehow that has sold the most copies of any PS3 games. An American FPS...Wasdie

Yes I agree that things look grim for PS3 in Japan but I'm not really worried I know PS3 will sell like 40 million in Japan by the end of its lifecycle, I'm 80% sure but I'll be 100% sure when White Knight Story, FF13/versus 13 and other various japanese RPG's are released in Japan.Moonlight-AB

But europe is still a month away. Lets all have this conversation again six months from now.Darth matt

How many big titles have been released there? Not a single MSG game, FF game, DMC game, no Gran Truismo game. Those are system sellers. In Japan they play VF in arcades, not on consoles. I mean the best game so far is Resistance, somehow that has sold the most copies of any PS3 games. An American FPS...Wasdie

your point fails. none of the other consoles have dropped there system sellers either(mario,halo,fable,SSB etc.)and they are doing fine. plus the exclusives on PS3 are just average, the only onesi like are Gran Turismo and MGS4 and they arent worth the $600+. Gamers shouldnt be backed into a corner and forced to pay outragous amounts to play games. on top of that for games that MIGHT come out this year.

and i can see your response now "you just wait till...07.. um i meen ...08...bu...buh...teh...Cell....4D.oh...well..i can watch movies "

If people dont buy the console then theres no user base. If theres no user base then developers wont make games. And theres NO system sellers for the PS3 until 2008. Thats a long time to wait for blockbusters like MGS and FF. The Wii was outselling the PS3 2 to 1 at launch and now its 4 to 1. How many more millions will the Wii have sold when 2008 rolls around?Carmilla31

Wrong. People are going to start to realise that the Wii was just a "novelty" purchase if the games don't start to pump out. A new Mario, SSBB, Metroid 3? That's it for this year as big named games? The DSL has more hype behind than the Wii, and the PS3, as I mentioned before, has some big named most wanted games that the Japanese market wants badly. Quite frankly, if Sony would of done the smart thing, and not of done a stupid "worldwide" launch, they'd of been in a much better possition at this point. Demand would of been met, supplies up to par, etc.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]How many big titles have been released there? Not a single MSG game, FF game, DMC game, no Gran Truismo game. Those are system sellers. In Japan they play VF in arcades, not on consoles. I mean the best game so far is Resistance, somehow that has sold the most copies of any PS3 games. An American FPS...cakeorrdeath

Evryone acts like FF is the greatest system seller ever. Its not. FFVIII was the highest selling one ever in Japan and it only sold 3.6million

http://www.vgcharts.org/japtotals.php

your point fails. none of the other consoles have dropped there system sellers either(mario,halo,fable,SSB etc.)

OpticalCanine

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]How many big titles have been released there? Not a single MSG game, FF game, DMC game, no Gran Truismo game. Those are system sellers. In Japan they play VF in arcades, not on consoles. I mean the best game so far is Resistance, somehow that has sold the most copies of any PS3 games. An American FPS...OpticalCanine

your point fails. none of the other consoles have dropped there system sellers either(mario,halo,fable,SSB etc.)and they are doing fine. plus the exclusives on PS3 are just average, the only onesi like are Gran Turismo and MGS4 and they arent worth the $600+. Gamers shouldnt be backed into a corner and forced to pay outragous amounts to play games. on top of that for games that MIGHT come out this year.

and i can see your response now "you just wait till...07.. um i meen ...08...bu...buh...teh...Cell....4D.oh...well..i can watch movies "

We're talking about the JA market, not others. But you are right about other regions. There may be others that are just not interested in the next DMC, or MGS game. But in Japan, those are still very huge titles that can't be passed up. Hell. Look at Gundam there. Very very very popular still and sells like crazy. Just like Pokemon.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]All they need to do is lower the price and get a few games out for the system. I have been saying that for the longest time now it still hasen't happened!supermechakirby

From what I hear the PS3 has already outsold the 360 in Japan. If anything is non existent in Japan it's the 360.
crazyjames1080

what i don't understand is what you guys are smoking? of course 360 is doing bad in japan, it always has sold bad in japan, but sony is huge in japan. for the PS3 not to fly off the shelves is unbelievable! what sony fan can honestly say that after 3 months there would still be systems on the shelves?

I can't believe how many people here in the states goes on and on about how the PS3 outsold the 360....its supposed to, christ I"m a 360 fan and I new that the PS3 would clobber the 360 in japan, but even I never thought that people would not be buying the PS3, I'm in shock that sony is having so many problems.

[QUOTE="supermechakirby"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]All they need to do is lower the price and get a few games out for the system. I have been saying that for the longest time now it still hasen't happened!iwo4life

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]If people dont buy the console then theres no user base. If theres no user base then developers wont make games. And theres NO system sellers for the PS3 until 2008. Thats a long time to wait for blockbusters like MGS and FF. The Wii was outselling the PS3 2 to 1 at launch and now its 4 to 1. How many more millions will the Wii have sold when 2008 rolls around?chrismunx

Wrong. People are going to start to realise that the Wii was just a "novelty" purchase if the games don't start to pump out. A new Mario, SSBB, Metroid 3? That's it for this year as big named games? The DSL has more hype behind than the Wii, and the PS3, as I mentioned before, has some big named most wanted games that the Japanese market wants badly. Quite frankly, if Sony would of done the smart thing, and not of done a stupid "worldwide" launch, they'd of been in a much better possition at this point. Demand would of been met, supplies up to par, etc.

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]If people dont buy the console then theres no user base. If theres no user base then developers wont make games. And theres NO system sellers for the PS3 until 2008. Thats a long time to wait for blockbusters like MGS and FF. The Wii was outselling the PS3 2 to 1 at launch and now its 4 to 1. How many more millions will the Wii have sold when 2008 rolls around?chrismunx

Wrong. People are going to start to realise that the Wii was just a "novelty" purchase if the games don't start to pump out. A new Mario, SSBB, Metroid 3? That's it for this year as big named games? The DSL has more hype behind than the Wii, and the PS3, as I mentioned before, has some big named most wanted games that the Japanese market wants badly. Quite frankly, if Sony would of done the smart thing, and not of done a stupid "worldwide" launch, they'd of been in a much better possition at this point. Demand would of been met, supplies up to par, etc.

Here is a question for you. Did you think that the DS was a fad when it first came out??

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]If people dont buy the console then theres no user base. If theres no user base then developers wont make games. And theres NO system sellers for the PS3 until 2008. Thats a long time to wait for blockbusters like MGS and FF. The Wii was outselling the PS3 2 to 1 at launch and now its 4 to 1. How many more millions will the Wii have sold when 2008 rolls around?chrismunx

Wrong. People are going to start to realise that the Wii was just a "novelty" purchase if the games don't start to pump out. A new Mario, SSBB, Metroid 3? That's it for this year as big named games? The DSL has more hype behind than the Wii, and the PS3, as I mentioned before, has some big named most wanted games that the Japanese market wants badly. Quite frankly, if Sony would of done the smart thing, and not of done a stupid "worldwide" launch, they'd of been in a much better possition at this point. Demand would of been met, supplies up to par, etc.

Ummmmm no....... 

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1. (2 / 1) Final Fantasy XIII PS3 Square Enix 2.443
2. (1 / 2) Dragon Quest IX NDS Square Enix 2.387
3. (3 / 3) Biohazard 5 PS3 Capcom 1.500
4. (4 / 4) Metal Gear Solid 4 PS3 Konami 1.284
5. (9 /12) Monster Hunter Portable 2nd PSP Capcom 949
6. (6 / 6) Persona 3: Fes PS2 Atlus 898
7. (5 /11) Gundam Musou PS3 Bandai Namco 853
8. (7 / 5) Super Robot Taisen: Original Generations PS2 Banpresto 782
9. (10/ 7) Gyakuten Saiban 4 NDS Capcom 731
10. (8 /10) Super Smash Bros. Brawl Wii Nintendo 614
11. (11/ 8 ) Lost Odyssey Xbox 360 Microsoft 567
12. (14/14) Higurashi no Naku Kei ni Matsuri NDS Alchemist 520
13. (12/13) Zelda no Densetsu: Phantom Hourglass NDS Nintendo 482
14. (15/26) Final Fantasy Versus XIII PS3 Square Enix 469
15. (19/17) Super Robot Taisen W NDS Banpresto 392
17. (17/17) Monster Hunter 3 PS3 Capcom 382
18. (16/22) Fire Emblem Wii Nintendo 371
19. (13/15) Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors Wii Square Enix 365
20. (25/30) Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII PSP Square Enix 313

11.02.07

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]All they need to do is lower the price and get a few games out for the system. I have been saying that for the longest time now it still hasen't happened!supermechakirby

[QUOTE="chrismunx"]

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]If people dont buy the console then theres no user base. If theres no user base then developers wont make games. And theres NO system sellers for the PS3 until 2008. Thats a long time to wait for blockbusters like MGS and FF. The Wii was outselling the PS3 2 to 1 at launch and now its 4 to 1. How many more millions will the Wii have sold when 2008 rolls around?supermechakirby

Wrong. People are going to start to realise that the Wii was just a "novelty" purchase if the games don't start to pump out. A new Mario, SSBB, Metroid 3? That's it for this year as big named games? The DSL has more hype behind than the Wii, and the PS3, as I mentioned before, has some big named most wanted games that the Japanese market wants badly. Quite frankly, if Sony would of done the smart thing, and not of done a stupid "worldwide" launch, they'd of been in a much better possition at this point. Demand would of been met, supplies up to par, etc.

And has BD sold as much as say...a recent FF, ala 12? Hardly. Hype is one thing, sure. Sales? Entirely different. Sales speak louder than hype. It's all hypothetical to start with, as your thread implies, but the numbers speak louder. If we're just talking JA sales, then the Wii dominates, with PS3 next, and 360 dead last. By the end of the year who knows what will happen. Will 360 pick up? Will the Wii die down? Will PS3 cease to exist? Hard to say but with what games are coming out, it's really a toss up right.

[QUOTE="chrismunx"]

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]If people dont buy the console then theres no user base. If theres no user base then developers wont make games. And theres NO system sellers for the PS3 until 2008. Thats a long time to wait for blockbusters like MGS and FF. The Wii was outselling the PS3 2 to 1 at launch and now its 4 to 1. How many more millions will the Wii have sold when 2008 rolls around?Carmilla31

Wrong. People are going to start to realise that the Wii was just a "novelty" purchase if the games don't start to pump out. A new Mario, SSBB, Metroid 3? That's it for this year as big named games? The DSL has more hype behind than the Wii, and the PS3, as I mentioned before, has some big named most wanted games that the Japanese market wants badly. Quite frankly, if Sony would of done the smart thing, and not of done a stupid "worldwide" launch, they'd of been in a much better possition at this point. Demand would of been met, supplies up to par, etc.

I beg to differ. MGS4 will come out in 2007 in Japan. Let's not forget Tekken 6 (I hope), Heavenly Sword, and there's probably a shat load of unannounced games that will come out that will go along the lines of rpg's. It's still the beginning of the year, and with FF13's demo coming out this year, there's that very slight possibility of it coming out in Japan this year as well. I predict import madness because of PS3 being region free with the games.

[QUOTE="iwo4life"][QUOTE="supermechakirby"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]All they need to do is lower the price and get a few games out for the system. I have been saying that for the longest time now it still hasen't happened!Dire_Weasel

[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]From what I hear the PS3 has already outsold the 360 in Japan. If anything is non existent in Japan it's the 360.
LEGEND_C4A

what i don't understand is what you guys are smoking? of course 360 is doing bad in japan, it always has sold bad in japan, but sony is huge in japan. for the PS3 not to fly off the shelves is unbelievable! what sony fan can honestly say that after 3 months there would still be systems on the shelves?

I can't believe how many people here in the stats goes on and on about how the PS3 outsold the 360....its supposed to, christ I"m a 360 fan and I new that the PS3 would clobber the 360 in japan, but even I never thought that people would not be buying the PS3, I'm in shock that sony is having so many problems.

[QUOTE="Darth matt"]But europe is still a month away. Lets all have this conversation again six months from now.Carmilla31

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]How many big titles have been released there? Not a single MSG game, FF game, DMC game, no Gran Truismo game. Those are system sellers. In Japan they play VF in arcades, not on consoles. I mean the best game so far is Resistance, somehow that has sold the most copies of any PS3 games. An American FPS...cakeorrdeath

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]How many big titles have been released there? Not a single MSG game, FF game, DMC game, no Gran Truismo game. Those are system sellers. In Japan they play VF in arcades, not on consoles. I mean the best game so far is Resistance, somehow that has sold the most copies of any PS3 games. An American FPS...nevi

[QUOTE="chrismunx"]

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]If people dont buy the console then theres no user base. If theres no user base then developers wont make games. And theres NO system sellers for the PS3 until 2008. Thats a long time to wait for blockbusters like MGS and FF. The Wii was outselling the PS3 2 to 1 at launch and now its 4 to 1. How many more millions will the Wii have sold when 2008 rolls around?Carmilla31

Wrong. People are going to start to realise that the Wii was just a "novelty" purchase if the games don't start to pump out. A new Mario, SSBB, Metroid 3? That's it for this year as big named games? The DSL has more hype behind than the Wii, and the PS3, as I mentioned before, has some big named most wanted games that the Japanese market wants badly. Quite frankly, if Sony would of done the smart thing, and not of done a stupid "worldwide" launch, they'd of been in a much better possition at this point. Demand would of been met, supplies up to par, etc.

How many big titles have been released there? Not a single MSG game, FF game, DMC game, no Gran Truismo game. Those are system sellers. In Japan they play VF in arcades, not on consoles. I mean the best game so far is Resistance, somehow that has sold the most copies of any PS3 games. An American FPS...Wasdie

A high price due to manufacturing costs and lack of good games aren't fundamental problems; they're just business decisions that Sony can change anytime they like.Bibbidy

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]If people dont buy the console then theres no user base. If theres no user base then developers wont make games. And theres NO system sellers for the PS3 until 2008. Thats a long time to wait for blockbusters like MGS and FF. The Wii was outselling the PS3 2 to 1 at launch and now its 4 to 1. How many more millions will the Wii have sold when 2008 rolls around?Javy03

Wrong. People are going to start to realise that the Wii was just a "novelty" purchase if the games don't start to pump out. A new Mario, SSBB, Metroid 3? That's it for this year as big named games? The DSL has more hype behind than the Wii, and the PS3, as I mentioned before, has some big named most wanted games that the Japanese market wants badly. Quite frankly, if Sony would of done the smart thing, and not of done a stupid "worldwide" launch, they'd of been in a much better possition at this point. Demand would of been met, supplies up to par, etc.

From what I hear the PS3 has already outsold the 360 in Japan. If anything is non existent in Japan it's the 360.
crazyjames1080

[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]From what I hear the PS3 has already outsold the 360 in Japan. If anything is non existent in Japan it's the 360.
SHADY_SMOKA

[QUOTE="SHADY_SMOKA"][QUOTE="crazyjames1080"]From what I hear the PS3 has already outsold the 360 in Japan. If anything is non existent in Japan it's the 360.
crazyjames1080

actually lemmings never really hyped japan as being pro 360 while the cows were predicting japanese ps3 would single handidly ruin MS...

...not happening...:lol: