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#51 DarkLink77
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According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (5 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

PS3 > 360 (32 games to 31)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (6), but the 360 and the PC tie it if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2).

Discuss.

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According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (7 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

360 = PS3 (31 games apiece)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (6), but the 360 and the PC tie it if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2).

Discuss.

DarkLink77
I wonder how it would have gone if I went to 60.
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#53 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]Its ok bro, keep forcing yourself to think Uncharted is good because of the score.Blabadon
"aroxx_ab wrote: Uncharted is nice but seriously who cares about that game IF "Mass effect 3" and "Elderscrolls V" coming out same month StrongDeadlift wrote: Alot of people......considering The last game both outscored and outsold BOTH of those titles last installments." http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/27526495/i-do-not-think-i-am-physically-capable-of-waiting-an-entire-year-for-uncharted-3?msg_id=327008446#327008446 This is fun

Dear god is that painful to read:|

Either way, im not hiding anything. Like I said I didnt even own either system when I typed that, and back then I bought into all the Sony hype.

PS3 being a supercomputer, Uncharted 2 being the best looking game ever made, better than Crysis with dual GTX580's, or most importantly, convincing myself that I was having fun playing it and that its gameplay wasnt broken as hell.

That being said, never again :P

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#54 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (7 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

360 = PS3 (31 games apiece)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (6), but the 360 and the PC tie it if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2).

Discuss.

Blabadon
I wonder how it would have gone if I went to 60.

Doesn't really matter. We set out to make a top 50. :P
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#56 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]Its ok bro, keep forcing yourself to think Uncharted is good because of the score.StrongDeadlift

"aroxx_ab wrote: Uncharted is nice but seriously who cares about that game IF "Mass effect 3" and "Elderscrolls V" coming out same month StrongDeadlift wrote: Alot of people......considering The last game both outscored and outsold BOTH of those titles last installments." http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/27526495/i-do-not-think-i-am-physically-capable-of-waiting-an-entire-year-for-uncharted-3?msg_id=327008446#327008446 This is fun

Dear god is that painful to read:|

Either way, im not hiding anything. Like I said I didnt even own either system when I typed that, and back then I bought into all the Sony hype.

PS3 being a supercomputer, Uncharted 2 being the best looking game ever made, better than Crysis with dual GTX580's, or most importantly, convincing myself that I was having fun playing it and that its gameplay wasnt broken as hell.

That being said, never again :P

You were like the ShadowMoses (post mental breakdown) of that day and age. That being said, I don't think you've updated your now playing for a while.
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#57 AAllxxjjnn
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Pretty much apathetic towards the entire list. I'm clearly in love with this medium.
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#58 DarkLink77
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God of War 3 isn't on the list and neither is MGS4!? What the...

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Yes they are. Read it again.
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#59 DarkLink77
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Pretty much apathetic towards the entire list. I'm clearly in love with this medium. AAllxxjjnn
Kind of how I feel, too, brah. :P
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#60 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

God of War 3 isn't on the list and neither is MGS4!? What the...

DarkLink77
Yes they are. Read it again.

I read it again before you quoted me, damn it I was surprised.
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#61 Blabadon
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*(From Blabadon) I won't repost the dumbness*AgentA-Mi6

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#62 AgentA-Mi6
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Blabadon

You quoted DarkLink to get that because i deleted the post, MGS4 was tied with another game and i missed GOW when i gave the list a quick read, i realized the games were actually on the list upon closer inspection before i was told anything.

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#63 Planeforger
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Wow, okay, I personally wouldn't have put any of those games in the top ten (except maybe SMG2, at a stretch). Did we actually vote for this? Weird.
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#64 DarkLink77
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Wow, okay, I personally wouldn't have put any of those games in the top ten (except maybe SMG2, at a stretch). Did we actually vote for this? Weird. Planeforger
It was stickied for more than a week. Kind of hard to miss.
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#65 the9thinning
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Uncharted #1? Really? :?
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#67 DarkLink77
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I've played 35 of the games on the listBPoole96
Only 27 here. :P
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#68 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (5 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

360 = PS3 (31 games apiece)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (6), but the 360 and the PC tie it if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2).

Discuss.

Slashkice

The PS3 has 33 games, or 32 if you don't want to count the unreleased ME port yet. It also has 8 exclusives instead of 6. Everything else is right I think, unless you want to give EA credit for publishing Valve's games on consoles and boost them to #1 publisher.

Does it? I'll counted that twice, but it's easy to mess up. I'll count again.
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#69 DarkLink77
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Uncharted #1? Really? :?the9thinning
I didn't vote for it, brah. :P
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#70 Blabadon
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18 for me although a lot of the games there are in my backlog.
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#71 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Pretty much apathetic towards the entire list. I'm clearly in love with this medium. DarkLink77
Kind of how I feel, too, brah. :P

Good to know I am not alone in the disappointment this generation has brought. The only two games (on that list, that I've played) that I found truly memorable were Red Dead Redemption and Portal 2.
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#72 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (5 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

360 = PS3 (31 games apiece)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (6), but the 360 and the PC tie it if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2).

Discuss.

Slashkice

The PS3 has 33 games, or 32 if you don't want to count the unreleased ME port yet. It also has 8 exclusives instead of 6. Everything else is right I think, unless you want to give EA credit for publishing Valve's games on consoles and boost them to #1 publisher.

edit: oh and Nintendo has 6 games as a dev. I'm guessing you left out Xenoblade, but they own MS so it's essentially a Nintendo title.

You're right. I miscounted for Sony. I missed one and though that Valyria Chronicles was a PSP game for some reason. Guess I was thinking of the sequel. :P And yes, I left Xenoblade out, because, while they are a Nintendo owned studio, they aren't Nintendo EAD, so I don't consider them "Nintendo" the same way I don't consider Retro "Nintendo."
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While I don't always agree with the ranks, at first glance I say that's a good list! It certainly does better than any of the recent "top lists" I've seen published recently.
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#74 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Pretty much apathetic towards the entire list. I'm clearly in love with this medium. AAllxxjjnn
Kind of how I feel, too, brah. :P

Good to know I am not alone in the disappointment this generation has brought. The only two games (on that list, that I've played) that I found truly memorable were Red Dead Redemption and Portal 2.

Dude, I've been saying this gen is disappointing for years. :P Not even the original Crysis? But you love that game. :? I think I could name more than 2 (StarCraft II, Reach, SMG2, and RDR, there's 4), but it's been a lousy gen.
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The list is pretty good with the exception of Uncharted 2 and MGS4 being at the top.

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#76 rjdofu
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The list is pretty good with the exception of Uncharted 2 and MGS4 being at the top.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Dude, I've been saying this gen is disappointing for years. :P Not even the original Crysis? But you love that game. :? I think I could name more than 2 (StarCraft II, Reach, SMG2, and RDR, there's 4), but it's been a lousy gen.

Hoping for the best next-gen, for me it seemed like this gen was a really awkward phase for gameplay mechanics and visuals. Didn't notice that Crysis was on the list. I guess I'd also put Deus Ex: Human Revolution on my list.
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#78 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]for all the times system wars complaints whenever a top 100 games list is made you'd expect they'd have come up with something better then this poor listBallroompirate

System Wars complains about everything, it doesn't matter what games they put on a top 100 list, there'll always be a couple of users who complain :P.

This forum is infested with hipsters.

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I see you found Darklinks Myface photo

Mad uncalled for.
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#79 DarkLink77
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According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (5 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

PS3 > 360 (32 games to 31)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (8 and 6, respectively), but the 360 and the PC tie the Wii if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2). PS3 is the clear winner here, however.

Discuss.

DarkLink77

Updated for accuracy.

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#80 platniumgamer
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[QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

The list is pretty good with the exception of Uncharted 2 and MGS4 being at the top.

rjdofu

Bu bu I'm not even mad.

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#81 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Dude, I've been saying this gen is disappointing for years. :P Not even the original Crysis? But you love that game. :? I think I could name more than 2 (StarCraft II, Reach, SMG2, and RDR, there's 4), but it's been a lousy gen.

Hoping for the best next-gen, for me it seemed like this gen was a really awkward phase for gameplay mechanics and visuals. Didn't notice that Crysis was on the list. I guess I'd also put Deus Ex: Human Revolution on my list.

Yeah, no kidding. Game mechanics took a huge step back to "experiences," and everyone's trying to figure out how to balance visuals with hardware and everything else. I haven't played Human Revolution yet, but what I've seen of it looks cool.
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#82 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (5 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

PS3 > 360 (32 games to 31)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (6), but the 360 and the PC tie it if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2).

Discuss.

DarkLink77

Updated for accuracy.

Your missing a game for PS3, it has 7 exclusives. Maybe you missed demons souls or heavy rain or something.
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#84 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (5 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

PS3 > 360 (32 games to 31)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (6), but the 360 and the PC tie it if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2).

Discuss.

Eddie-Vedder

Updated for accuracy.

Your missing a game for PS3, it has 7 exclusives. Maybe you missed demons souls or heavy rain or something.

Crap, forgot to change that bit. It should be at 8. It'a accurate in the other posts, however.
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#85 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

According to my final count:

Nintendo, EA. and Microsoft are the best publishers. (Tied for 7 games)

Nintendo is the best developer. (5 games)

Nintendo > BioWare > Bungie = Naughty Dog > Blizzard

PS3 > 360 (32 games to 31)

PS3 and Wii have the most exclusives on the list (8 and 6, respectively), but the 360 and the PC tie the Wii if we include console exclusives or versions that are so much better they may as well be exclusives (Crysis, Team Fortress 2). PS3 is the clear winner here, however.

Discuss.

DarkLink77

Updated for accuracy.

Should be 100% this time.
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#86 DarkLink77
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DarkLink why you forced yourself to such work I shall never know :P And it'll have a very little pay off since sooner or later it'll explode into fanboy wars claiming the list sucks.... unless you were planning ahead for that specific scenario...oh you evil you!:twisted:

Anyway nice list!

Just don't agree with UC2 being at the top (even though I am a big fan of the franchise), should be either SMG 1/2 or RDR (going just by quality alone) IMO. Also great job! :P

Desmonic

I don't agree with it either, my friend. But this was decided by vote, and, well... you know how it is. :P

But thank you. Blabadon should get most of the credit, though, because he did the counting. I just totaled up some interesting tidbits, and made the threads.

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#87 rjdofu
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PS3 wins in game category overall!!! SD-fvking-C!!!
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#88 Eddie-Vedder
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PS3 wins in games overall and in exclusives. Once again, lems got raped.

bu bu kinect guise :lol: Hard week for lems :lol:

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Uncharted 2 at number one? You did good system wars.
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#90 DarkLink77
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Uncharted 2 at number one? You did good system wars.FIipMode
You have no idea how hard it was to not edit this list and try to make System War's taste look better than it is.
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#91 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

DarkLink why you forced yourself to such work I shall never know :P And it'll have a very little pay off since sooner or later it'll explode into fanboy wars claiming the list sucks.... unless you were planning ahead for that specific scenario...oh you evil you!:twisted:

Anyway nice list!

Just don't agree with UC2 being at the top (even though I am a big fan of the franchise), should be either SMG 1/2 or RDR (going just by quality alone) IMO. Also great job! :P

DarkLink77
I don't agree with it either, my friend. But this was decided by vote, and, well... you know how it is. :P But thank you. Blabadon should get most of the credit, though, because he did the counting. I just totaled up some interestings tidbits, and made the threads.

Oh you. I wish we get more of these though. It was an awesome idea.
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#92 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Uncharted 2 at number one? You did good system wars.DarkLink77
You have no idea how hard it was to not edit this list and try to make System War's taste look better than it is.

I second this. Every vote for RDR and Borderlands made me cringe.
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#94 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Desmonic"]

DarkLink why you forced yourself to such work I shall never know :P And it'll have a very little pay off since sooner or later it'll explode into fanboy wars claiming the list sucks.... unless you were planning ahead for that specific scenario...oh you evil you!:twisted:

Anyway nice list!

Just don't agree with UC2 being at the top (even though I am a big fan of the franchise), should be either SMG 1/2 or RDR (going just by quality alone) IMO. Also great job! :P

Blabadon
I don't agree with it either, my friend. But this was decided by vote, and, well... you know how it is. :P But thank you. Blabadon should get most of the credit, though, because he did the counting. I just totaled up some interestings tidbits, and made the threads.

Oh you. I wish we get more of these though. It was an awesome idea.

These are my favorite things to do. This and the E3 hype thing I did last year are my favorite threads. You just have to find a good excuse to make them.
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1) Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (Naughty Dog/SONY). Loved this game, absolutely LOVED IT.

2) Tie: Mass Effect 2 (BioWare/EA) and Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Kojima Productions/Konami). Finished and LOVED them both.

4) Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo). Modern Mario games do not appeal to me anymore.

5) Batman: Arkham City (Rocksteady/Warner Bros.) Owned, finished, loved and i'm not done with it yet.

6) The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda). I dont dig Bethesda games.

7) Red Dead Redemption (Rockstar/2K). Owned, finished, loved and done with.

8) Bioshock (Irrational Games/2K). Played it once.

9)Tie: Gears of War (EPIC Games/Microsoft) and Demon's Souls (From Software/SONY). Played both, Finished Demon's Souls and loved it.

11) Halo 3 (Bungie/Microsoft). Xbox360 exclusive, played it but i dont own it and i'm not interested in doing so.

12) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Infinity Ward?/Activision). Played it.

13) Portal 2 (Valve). Own it, havent played it.

14) Assassin's Creed II (Ubisoft). Finished the game 100%, loved it.

15) Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo). Modern Mario games no longer appeal to me.

16) Deus Ex: Human Revolution (Eidos Montreal/Eidos/Square Enix). Havent played it.

17) Portal (Valve). Own it, barely played it. Need to get back to it.

18) Wii Sports (Nintendo). Own it, liked it.

19) Team Fortress 2 (Valve). Own it, liked it.

20) Dark Souls (From Software/ Namco Bandai). Own it, havent finished my first playthrough.

21) Crysis (Crytek/EA). Own it, havent finished the story mode.

22) Grand Theft Auto IV (Rockstar/2K). Not my cup of tea, i preferd Vice City over this game and San Andreas.

23) Fallout: New Vegas (Obsidian/Bethesda). I dont dig Bethesda games.

24) God of War III (Santa Monica Studios/SONY). Played the whole trilogy and the PSP games.

25) StarCraft II (Blizzard Entertainment). Own it, love it. I have to finish the story mode.

26) Mirror's Edge (DICE/EA). Played the Demo. Seemed good.

27) Halo: Reach (Bungie/Microsoft). Xbox 360 exclusive, I did play it but thats it.

28) Xenoblade Chronicles (Monolith Soft/Nintendo). Nintendo game, did not play.

29) Mass Effect (BioWare/Microsoft/EA). Played and loved the whole trilogy on PC.

30) Bayonetta (Platinum Games/SEGA). Finished that turd, the story made no sense whatsoever, Bayonetta was hot.

31) LittleBigPlanet (Media Molecule/SONY). Played it with friends many times, like it.

32) S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (GSC Game Worlds/THQ). Interesting i reckon but i've never played it.

33) Mass Effect 3 (BioWare/EA). Played and loved the whole trilogy on PC.

34) Tie: Batman: Arkham Asylum (Rocksteady/Warner Bros./Eidos) andPokemon Black/White (Game Freak/Nintendo). I loved Batman but i'm not into Pokemon anymore.

36) Fallout 3 (Bethesda). I dont dig Bethesda games.

36) Left 4 Dead 2 (Turtle Rock/Valve). BOUGHT IT RECENTLY AND ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT.

38) Dead Space (Visceral Games/EA). Great game, i have it and loved it.

39)Tie: Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (Naughty Dog/SONY) and Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo). Played both Brawl and Uncharted 3.Only finished UC3.

41) Tie: Gears of War 3 (EPIC Games/Microsoft) and Braid (Number None/Microsoft). Braid, played it. Gears 3 nope.

43) Minecraft (Mojang/Microsoft). Minecraft, well, thats that.

44) The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (Nintendo). Modern Zelda games do not appeal to me anymore.

45) Tie: Battlefield 3 (DICE EA) and Valkyria Chronicles (SEGA). Valkyria Chronicles, loved it but never finished the story.

47) Amnesia: The Dark Descent (Frictional Games). I have it on steam, havent played it yet,

48)Tie: Heavy Rain (Quantic Dream/SONY) and Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Infinity Ward/Activision). Finished both, MW2 was utterly forgettable and Heavy Rain was unique, quite the opposite.

50) Civilization V (Firaxis/2K). Haven't played it.

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So, my thoughts basically.

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#96 ActicEdge
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Well this list basically defines SW as not having any sort of superior taste to the average hype driven buyer like it claims to. So about expected.

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Skyrim is the one we should have a problem with. So high with that combat? Whoa.
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Uncharted 2 at number one? You did good system wars.DarkLink77
You have no idea how hard it was to not edit this list and try to make System War's taste look better than it is.

Uncharted 2 was a brilliant game in its own right, worthy of a top ten seat but nowhere near the top three.

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Skyrim is the one we should have a problem with. So high with that combat? Whoa.FIipMode
The overall jank that permeates throughout Skyrim is something that shouldn't be acceptable at all. What excuse do they have? It feel like an amateur effort a lot of the time.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]Uncharted 2 at number one? You did good system wars.AgentA-Mi6
You have no idea how hard it was to not edit this list and try to make System War's taste look better than it is.

} Uncharted 2 was a brilliant game in its own right, worthy of a top ten seat but nowhere near the top three.

That's kind of how I feel. Admittedly, I don't think the game is anything more than "good", but I can understand people putting it in the top 10. But number 1? It shocked me. But then, there are lots of Uncharted fans (Cows or otherwise) on System Wars. I was surprised the Halo games didn't do better because Halo is System Wars' favorite shooter.