it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.
Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest selling PlayStation console ever.
Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest selling PlayStation console ever.magus-21
it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.Ontain
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie.
[QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.alfy13
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset.
Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest shipping PlayStation console ever.magus-21
Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest selling PlayStation console ever.magus-21
The one brand people like to poop on? Don you know what "Diluted" means?
[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.magus-21
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset. lol now you sound like a even bigger lier then one above. EPIC LICENCES UT3 . VALVE LICENCES SOURCE so stop with all the lies. Game companies that want to use their engines buy from them. btw where is this link stating that Sony License UT3 and MS for Source? i want to see these links. but something tells me you can provide me those links because its bunch of LIES.
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.alfy13
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset. lol now you sound like a even bigger lier then one above. EPIC LICENCES UT3 . VALVE LICENCES SOURCE so stop with all the lies. Sony licensed UE3.0 FROM Epic to use as middleware. The way Microsoft licensed Source FROM Valve to use as middleware.
[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.magus-21
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset. lol now you sound like a even bigger lier then one above. EPIC LICENCES UT3 . VALVE LICENCES SOURCE so stop with all the lies. Sony licensed UE3.0 FROM Epic to use as middleware. The way Microsoft licensed Source FROM Valve to use as middleware. right, means sony bougtht UE3 from epic to use as middle ware. above poster says EPIC made a engine for the PS3. i called him a lier. just because you buy the engine to use (kind of like buying a certain car) doesnt mean you own the company. Like square enix licecnesed UE3 for future games. does taht mean Square owns EPIC now? do you see what im getting? Epic didnt make any engine for the ps3. epic made a engine called UE3 that sony likes and bough it for their use. but does not mean sony owns the company.
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.alfy13
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset. lol now you sound like a even bigger lier then one above. EPIC LICENCES UT3 . VALVE LICENCES SOURCE so stop with all the lies. Game companies that want to use their engines buy from them. btw where is this link stating that Sony License UT3 and MS for Source? i want to see these links. but something tells me you can provide me those links because its bunch of LIES. Source on the 360UE3.0 on the PS3
[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.magus-21
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset. lol now you sound like a even bigger lier then one above. EPIC LICENCES UT3 . VALVE LICENCES SOURCE so stop with all the lies. Game companies that want to use their engines buy from them. btw where is this link stating that Sony License UT3 and MS for Source? i want to see these links. but something tells me you can provide me those links because its bunch of LIES. Source on the 360UE3.0 on the PS3 my god are you even reading what i just said? Source sells a engine to MS. Ms does not own valve jsut because valve offerd soruce for their use. Valve still owns Soruce, ms paying them for the use of that engine. god read the article. pretty much MS devolpers bought the engine for their use and they can do what ever they want with it, but Soruce still owns it.Â
He also had strong words for those who have accused Sony of following in others' footsteps. "I read on a developer forum, one of the guys who worked on PlayStation Home said they started designing it in 2004. So when people say things like, 'Oh, they announced this new piece of software! They just copied so-and-so!'. What, you think they just made it last week in their basement?"
The bold part is the best part of the article in my opinion. Thats what lemmings and sheep keep saying lol.
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.alfy13
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset. lol now you sound like a even bigger lier then one above. EPIC LICENCES UT3 . VALVE LICENCES SOURCE so stop with all the lies. Game companies that want to use their engines buy from them. btw where is this link stating that Sony License UT3 and MS for Source? i want to see these links. but something tells me you can provide me those links because its bunch of LIES. Source on the 360UE3.0 on the PS3 my god are you even reading what i just said? Source sells a engine to MS. Ms does not own valve jsut because valve offerd soruce for their use. Valve still owns Soruce, ms paying them for the use of that engine. god read the article. Since when did I say Sony owns UE3 or MS owns Source? I said they LICENSED UE3 and Source. In case that doesn't make sense to you, that means they BOUGHT THE RIGHTS FROM EPIC/VALVE TO USE THOSE ENGINES ON THEIR CONSOLES. Sony and MS can't sell the rights to the engines themselves, but they do offer them as middleware solutions packaged with their normal SDKs and optimized for their console platforms. Christ, learn to read.
Is still the one to beat. I suppose I should not be to suprised when the weakest system the Wii is the quickest selling right now..........our hobby is dying people and we just sit by and watch...
Is still the one to beat. I suppose I should not be to suprised when the weakest system the Wii is the quickest selling right now..........our hobby is dying people and we just sit by and watch...
Khansoul
1.Nope thats Wii 2.Yeh it did have a bad launch 3. Has more games coming then Wii 4.Wii's online is nonexistant.
Is still the one to beat. I suppose I should not be to suprised when the weakest system the Wii is the quickest selling right now..........our hobby is dying people and we just sit by and watch...
PS3OwnsYou
1.Nope thats Wii 2.Yeh it did have a bad launch 3. Has more games coming then Wii 4.Wii's online is nonexistant. 1. I won't even touch the stupidity of this comment. 2. Good, a cow admits the truth. 3. Actually, the Wii has more exclusive games coming, and more THIRD PARTY exclusive games, too. 4. Wii's online is unnecessary. Hell, only 10% of all gamers ever play online anyway.
He also had strong words for those who have accused Sony of following in others' footsteps. "I read on a developer forum, one of the guys who worked on PlayStation Home said they started designing it in 2004. So when people say things like, 'Oh, they announced this new piece of software! They just copied so-and-so!'. What, you think they just made it last week in their basement?"
The bold part is the best part of the article in my opinion. Thats what lemmings and sheep keep saying lol. zzzaaa
They are allowed to. Anyone can say something has been in development for so and so long but if they don't come out and provide proof, just a statement then it is up to you to believe it or not. It isn't any others fault than Sony for waiting so long to divulge the information or make their claim. But in essence, Second Life was made in available in '03, meaning it was in development earlier, and why Sony be comparing it to things like MySpace instead of saying 'MySpace took this idea from us?' etc...
[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="magus-21"] Sony licensed UE3.0 FROM Epic to use as middleware. The way Microsoft licensed Source FROM Valve to use as middleware. right, means sony bougtht UE3 from epic to use as middle ware. above poster says EPIC made a engine for the PS3. i called him a lier. just because you buy the engine to use (kind of like buying a certain car) doesnt mean you own the company. Like square enix licecnesed UE3 for future games. does taht mean Square owns EPIC now? do you see what im getting? Epic didnt make any engine for the ps3. epic made a engine called UE3 that sony likes and bough it for their use. but does not mean sony owns the company. good lord. EPIC made a version of the UE3 specifically for the ps3. sony licensed it. this means if sony ps3 doesn't do well then epic doesn't get more money. thus EPIC isn't really an unbiased. do you think the UE3 engine works the same way on the pc that it does for the ps3? of course not. Who made it work for the ps3? EPIC.
Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest selling PlayStation console ever.magus-21
Sony seems to have been beaten already. They have only sold 2 million consoles when they promised 6 million by March. It's March 14 now.
How come when Sony fans say that Sony is still the one to beat they get laughed at but when a Games developer says Sony is the one to beat and everyone agree's?
Kind of shows that Sony's fans know what their talking about heh?
[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="magus-21"] Sony licensed UE3.0 FROM Epic to use as middleware. The way Microsoft licensed Source FROM Valve to use as middleware. right, means sony bougtht UE3 from epic to use as middle ware. above poster says EPIC made a engine for the PS3. i called him a lier. just because you buy the engine to use (kind of like buying a certain car) doesnt mean you own the company. Like square enix licecnesed UE3 for future games. does taht mean Square owns EPIC now? do you see what im getting? Epic didnt make any engine for the ps3. epic made a engine called UE3 that sony likes and bough it for their use. but does not mean sony owns the company. good lord. EPIC made a version of the UE3 specifically for the ps3. sony licensed it. this means if sony ps3 doesn't do well then epic doesn't get more money. thus EPIC isn't really an unbiased. do you think the UE3 engine works the same way on the pc that it does for the ps3? of course not. Who made it work for the ps3? EPIC.And of course this is nothing against Microsoft, seeing as how Epic tuned the UE3 engine to work on the 360 as well (Both Gears of War and the upcoming UT3 run on UE3). What the article is stating is that Sony intends to package the PS3-tuned UE3 into its standard SDK. That means all PS3 developers in future will have access to the engine, much as how the Source engine is packaged into the 360 SDK.
[QUOTE="magus-21"]Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest selling PlayStation console ever.Berserker_2
Sony seems to have been beaten already. They have only sold 2 million consoles when they promised 6 million by March. It's March 14 now. Promises promises. :roll: The PS3 is still the fastest selling PS console, and it's sold faster than the 360 did at this same time during the 360's launch window, and that's WITHOUT Europe. Only the Wii is selling faster, but the Wii is a goddamn phenomenon. The PS3 will exceed the 360 worldwide, no doubt about it anymore. It probably won't beat the 360 in the U.S., maybe not even in Europe, but overall it will because it has strong support from all three regions. The 360 only has support from U.S. and Europe.
How come when Sony fans say that Sony is still the one to beat they get laughed at but when a Games developer says Sony is the one to beat and everyone agree's?
Kind of shows that Sony's fans know what their talking about heh?
AB_Uppercut
Because Sony fans often give **** reasons. Mark Rein puts things in perspective.
How come when Sony fans say that Sony is still the one to beat they get laughed at but when a Games developer says Sony is the one to beat and everyone agree's?
Kind of shows that Sony's fans know what their talking about heh?
magus-21
Because Sony fans often give **** reasons. Mark Rein puts things in perspective.
but everything mark rein said most people already knew, Mark rein just stated common knowledge about Playstation 3Â which should have been obvious to everyone apart from te fan-boys.
[QUOTE="zzzaaa"]He also had strong words for those who have accused Sony of following in others' footsteps. "I read on a developer forum, one of the guys who worked on PlayStation Home said they started designing it in 2004. So when people say things like, 'Oh, they announced this new piece of software! They just copied so-and-so!'. What, you think they just made it last week in their basement?"
The bold part is the best part of the article in my opinion. Thats what lemmings and sheep keep saying lol. LoL! I know, I tried to copy and past that part of the interview but GS trips out for some odd reason. Too many errors.
How come when Sony fans say that Sony is still the one to beat they get laughed at but when a Games developer says Sony is the one to beat and everyone agree's?
Kind of shows that Sony's fans know what their talking about heh?
AB_Uppercut
Because Sony fans often give **** reasons. Mark Rein puts things in perspective.
but everything mark rein said most people already knew, Mark rein just stated common knowledge about Playstation 3 which should have been obvious to everyone apart from te fan-boys.
Common sense is what's neglected on SW. That's why it's worth restating in here. :P
[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="magus-21"]Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest selling PlayStation console ever.magus-21
Sony seems to have been beaten already. They have only sold 2 million consoles when they promised 6 million by March. It's March 14 now. Promises promises. :roll: The PS3 is still the fastest selling PS console, and it's sold faster than the 360 did at this same time during the 360's launch window, and that's WITHOUT Europe. Only the Wii is selling faster, but the Wii is a goddamn phenomenon. The PS3 will exceed the 360 worldwide, no doubt about it anymore. It probably won't beat the 360 in the U.S., maybe not even in Europe, but overall it will because it has strong support from all three regions. The 360 only has support from U.S. and Europe. Who promised 6 million PS3's sold by March? Link me please. Btw, Bill Gates predicted that the Xbox 360 would have sold 10 million consoles by the time Wii and PS3 were launched. We all know how that turned out....
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.alfy13
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset. lol now you sound like a even bigger lier then one above. EPIC LICENCES UT3 . VALVE LICENCES SOURCE so stop with all the lies. Game companies that want to use their engines buy from them. btw where is this link stating that Sony License UT3 and MS for Source? i want to see these links. but something tells me you can provide me those links because its bunch of LIES. Source on the 360UE3.0 on the PS3 my god are you even reading what i just said? Source sells a engine to MS. Ms does not own valve jsut because valve offerd soruce for their use. Valve still owns Soruce, ms paying them for the use of that engine. god read the article. pretty much MS devolpers bought the engine for their use and they can do what ever they want with it, but Soruce still owns it. Wow, someone obviously didn't know what he was talking about. Why'd you have to go and make alfy13 hide in embarrassment?
FACT - PS3 is selling better than any previous PlayStation console FACT - PS3 is selling better than Xbox 360 was at this point after it's launch
and this is without even launching in europe-Krakapow-
Why do people keep saying it is the fastest selling console. What would you expect with an industry that has continually grown every year? Of course it is going to sell faster if there are more gamers than there were at previous launches.
Look, you have to win the belt from the champ, and it isn't over until the bell rings. Anyone with common sense knows the PS brand is still the one to beat. You can't even say it has lost until the next wave of consoles is released.
[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="magus-21"]Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest selling PlayStation console ever.DaddyDC650
Sony seems to have been beaten already. They have only sold 2 million consoles when they promised 6 million by March. It's March 14 now. Promises promises. :roll: The PS3 is still the fastest selling PS console, and it's sold faster than the 360 did at this same time during the 360's launch window, and that's WITHOUT Europe. Only the Wii is selling faster, but the Wii is a goddamn phenomenon. The PS3 will exceed the 360 worldwide, no doubt about it anymore. It probably won't beat the 360 in the U.S., maybe not even in Europe, but overall it will because it has strong support from all three regions. The 360 only has support from U.S. and Europe. Who promised 6 million PS3's sold by March? Link me please. Btw, Bill Gates predicted that the Xbox 360 would have sold 10 million consoles by the time Wii and PS3 were launched. We all know how that turned out.... At E3 2006, Kaz Hirai expected 2 million PS3s at launch, 4 million by December, 6 million by March.
[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ontain"]it's no secret that Epic put a lot of money into creating an engine for the ps3 so they could license it to other devs. they really want to ps3 to succeed or that investment will not return nearly as much.S-lic-K
LMAO what engine was this btw that is created for the PS3? because soudns like you made up a lie. Sony licensed Unreal Engine 3.0 for the PS3, the same way Microsoft licensed Source. That theoretically makes it easier to develop UE3.0 games on the PS3, since it'll actually be an integrated part of its toolset. lol now you sound like a even bigger lier then one above. EPIC LICENCES UT3 . VALVE LICENCES SOURCE so stop with all the lies. Game companies that want to use their engines buy from them. btw where is this link stating that Sony License UT3 and MS for Source? i want to see these links. but something tells me you can provide me those links because its bunch of LIES. Source on the 360UE3.0 on the PS3 my god are you even reading what i just said? Source sells a engine to MS. Ms does not own valve jsut because valve offerd soruce for their use. Valve still owns Soruce, ms paying them for the use of that engine. god read the article. pretty much MS devolpers bought the engine for their use and they can do what ever they want with it, but Soruce still owns it. Wow, someone obviously didn't know what he was talking about. Why'd you have to go and make alfy13 hide in embarrassment? im back from lunch btw. but yah i think i need to learn englsih better, because me and you both said pretty much the samething, but i mis read your post. when the first poster stated that epic made a eingine for sony i called him out on a lie. but yah my bad for mis reading what you said. only if japanese was not my main language and english was.
so pretty much like i said , epic and valve rents out their engines, but do not make engines specifially for a certain console. you pretty much said the same thing i said but differently that i didnt understand magus.
[QUOTE="-Krakapow-"]FACT - PS3 is selling better than any previous PlayStation console FACT - PS3 is selling better than Xbox 360 was at this point after it's launch
and this is without even launching in europejdknight21
Why do people keep saying it is the fastest selling console. What would you expect with an industry that has continually grown every year? Of course it is going to sell faster if there are more gamers than there were at previous launches.
By that logic, isn't it a bad sign for the 360 then that the 360 DID NOT sell as fast as the PS3?
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="magus-21"]Only an idiot would think Sony ISN'T the one to beat. They've got the strongest brand-name in gaming, and contrary to popular opinion, the PS3 is STILL the fastest selling PlayStation console ever.magus-21
Sony seems to have been beaten already. They have only sold 2 million consoles when they promised 6 million by March. It's March 14 now. Promises promises. :roll: The PS3 is still the fastest selling PS console, and it's sold faster than the 360 did at this same time during the 360's launch window, and that's WITHOUT Europe. Only the Wii is selling faster, but the Wii is a goddamn phenomenon. The PS3 will exceed the 360 worldwide, no doubt about it anymore. It probably won't beat the 360 in the U.S., maybe not even in Europe, but overall it will because it has strong support from all three regions. The 360 only has support from U.S. and Europe. Who promised 6 million PS3's sold by March? Link me please. Btw, Bill Gates predicted that the Xbox 360 would have sold 10 million consoles by the time Wii and PS3 were launched. We all know how that turned out.... At E3 2006, Kaz Hirai expected 2 million PS3s at launch, 4 million by December, 6 million by March. I still don't see a link.... I'm pretty sure Kaz was talking about PS3's shipped. Not sold.
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