Sony could top Smash bro... Yet they dont even try to compete.

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#1 Kokuro_Kun
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Jak and Dexter

Sly

Ratchet and Clank

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Sackboy

Solid Snake / Raiden

This is just off the top of my head, they could easily fill a roster and then some. Most of Sony's characters are pretty recognizable and a Sony smach bro's would be super awesome. How interested would you be in this?

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#2 Nintendonly
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Those franchises don't come anywhere near the quality of Nintendo's IPs.

Oh, and Solid Snake was already in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and he is owned by Konami.

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#3 UCF_Knight
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That would make for an... interesting fighter.
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#4 J-WOW
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the could but I dont think most those characters are iconic/popular/main stream enough.
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Could they fill out a roster for a SSB clone? Sure. Would the roster be more popular than Nintendo's and would the game be better? Let's just say I'm dubious.

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#6 Thunderdrone
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Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Solid Snake / Raiden

Kokuro_Kun

LOL

They could call it Sausage Fest Bros

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#7 Nintendonly
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Here is Sony's answer to the Smash Bros. series:

:lol:

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#8 right4dead
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Those franchises don't come anywhere near the quality of Nintendo's IPs.

Oh, and Solid Snake was already in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and he is owned by Konami.

Nintendonly

god of war, uncharted and metal gear are all better than any nintendo IP.

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#9 J-WOW
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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

Here is Sony's answer to the Smash Bros. series:

:lol:

you sir, are trying to hard, thats an adventure game BTW
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#10 Silverbond
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Drake

Kokuro_Kun

The rapper?

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#11 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

Those franchises don't come anywhere near the quality of Nintendo's IPs.

Oh, and Solid Snake was already in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and he is owned by Konami.

right4dead

god of war, uncharted and metal gear are all better than any nintendo IP.

You can't be serious
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#12 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="right4dead"]

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

Those franchises don't come anywhere near the quality of Nintendo's IPs.

Oh, and Solid Snake was already in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and he is owned by Konami.

Diviniuz

god of war, uncharted and metal gear are all better than any nintendo IP.

You can't be serious

I'd agree somewhat. Zelda is amazing, but imo GoW tops it. MGS goes under it. And Uncharted is a bit down. Never really liked any other nintendo franchises.
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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

Those franchises don't come anywhere near the quality of Nintendo's IPs.

Oh, and Solid Snake was already in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and he is owned by Konami.

right4dead

god of war, uncharted and metal gear are all better than any nintendo IP.

Too bad metal gear isn't a sony IP.
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#14 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"][QUOTE="right4dead"]

god of war, uncharted and metal gear are all better than any nintendo IP.

hexashadow13

You can't be serious

I'd agree somewhat. Zelda is amazing, but imo GoW tops it. MGS goes under it. And Uncharted is a bit down. Never really liked any other nintendo franchises.

metal gear solid isn't a sony ip

GoW series and Uncharted series are great, but to say they are better than any nintendo ip? That is pushing it!

Something more reasonable would be: saying on par or as good as XYZ. I just can't take a statement, "Gow or UC > Nintendo IPs", seriously

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LOL

They could call it Sausage Fest Bros

Thunderdrone

:lol: The problem with that is the Nintendo characters have been around for so long there is so much content to go through. Every level,trophy,sticker,item ect. Are continuous throwbacks and references to this excellent franchises. Also the Smash Bros style and gameplay is completely unique. It'd have to be a complete rip off like TMNT Smash Up or more like a Power Stone 2 style game.

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

Those franchises don't come anywhere near the quality of Nintendo's IPs.

Oh, and Solid Snake was already in Super Smash Bros. Brawl and he is owned by Konami.

right4dead

god of war, uncharted and metal gear are all better than any nintendo IP.

:lol: Um...good luck with that one.

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#16 funsohng
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haha no. put the all in some kind of action-adventure, yeah it might work, but fighter.... not so sure.
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Solid Snake / Raiden

Thunderdrone

LOL

They could call it Sausage Fest Bros

LMAO. Yeah they could.
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#18 bobcheeseball
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Drake

Silverbond

The rapper?

Well duh he'd be an obvious fit :P

I'd actually refuse to buy it if he were in. I'm tired of this fool

On topic: Also, am I the only one who would find it an odd fit seeing Kratos and Murray from Sly Cooper duke it out? It seems like a strange fit ;)

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#19 Nintendonly
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In this topic:

s believe that Metal Gear Solid is a Sony IP.

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On topic: Also, am I the only one who would find it an odd fit seeing Kratos and Murray from Sly Cooper duke it out? It seems like a strange fit ;)bobcheeseball
No stranger than, say,Mario fighting Samus.

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#21 Sonicplys
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Sony's characters are no where NEAR the level Nintendo character are right now. They represent video games as a whole. Not everybody knows who some of those Sony characters are. And who the hell is Naten (or whatever his name is) Drake? Nintendo = Legendary.

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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]On topic: Also, am I the only one who would find it an odd fit seeing Kratos and Murray from Sly Cooper duke it out? It seems like a strange fit ;)Mogotoo

No stranger than, say,Mario fighting Samus.

Well Samus and Mario is kind of strange seeing as Samus is an isolationist bounty hunter. But Kratos is on a whole different level. He's like deranged in some maddening quest for revenge, and as I recall in God of War 3 he deals with his enemies quite brutally.

And who the hell is Naten (or whatever his name is) Drake? Nintendo = Legendary.

Sonicplys

Just the protagonist of Uncharted and Uncharted 2(You know the 8 and the 9.5 games?)

Nothing special at all right?

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#23 funsohng
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Sony's characters are no where NEAR the level Nintendo character are right now. They represent video games as a whole. Not everybody knows who some of those Sony characters are. And who the hell is Naten (or whatever his name is) Drake? Nintendo = Legendary.

Sonicplys
I remember going "wtf is Ness, Roy, etc" and "why do I get some sissy girl when I pick Zelda???" playing Melee (wasn't a gamer back then)
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#24 GLove093093
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Other than Metal Gear (since it's not Sony's) and it could work. It would be bought by PS3 users who know those characters.
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Jak and Dexter

Sly

Ratchet and Clank

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Sackboy

Solid Snake / Raiden

This is just off the top of my head, they could easily fill a roster and then some. Most of Sony's characters are pretty recognizable and a Sony smach bro's would be super awesome. How interested would you be in this?

solid snake is not sonys ! (see ssbb aND 360 GC MGS 3DS MGS TITLES)
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#26 natendo64
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Why does everyone hate Nintendo all of the sudden?!?!? *clears throat* What I meant to say was, I highly doubt that Sony can compete with Nintendo when it comes to Smash Bros. Rumor has it, that nintendo is secretly planning a 4th Smash Bros game with tons more features and characters than Brawl. Now, what drives me crazy is that people think they're awsome for hating Nintendo. Just ask my friends at school. *coughcauseofhalocough*
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Just the protagonist of Uncharted and Uncharted 2(You know the 8 and the 9.5 games?)

Nothing special at all right?

bobcheeseball

Neither game is as iconic as any of Nintendo's franchises. So yes, 'nothing special at all' is a correct statement.

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Jak and Dexter

Sly

Ratchet and Clank

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Sackboy

Solid Snake / Raiden

This is just off the top of my head, they could easily fill a roster and then some. Most of Sony's characters are pretty recognizable and a Sony smach bro's would be super awesome. How interested would you be in this?

Kokuro_Kun
The problem is, a lot of those games aren't owned by Sony. They would have to get permission to use some of those characters. A fighting game with al those characters would be cool. I would use Ratchet with all those crazy weapons.
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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Jak and Dexter

Sly

Ratchet and Clank

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Sackboy

Solid Snake / Raiden

This is just off the top of my head, they could easily fill a roster and then some. Most of Sony's characters are pretty recognizable and a Sony smach bro's would be super awesome. How interested would you be in this?

XanderZane

The problem is, a lot of those games aren't owned by Sony. They would have to get permission to use some of those characters. A fighting game with al those characters would be cool. I would use Ratchet with all those crazy weapons.

WRONG.

Actually, other than Metal Gear Characters in Green (Konami), those are all Sony Characters owned by Sony.

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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]Just the protagonist of Uncharted and Uncharted 2(You know the 8 and the 9.5 games?)

Nothing special at all right?

Nintendonly

Neither game is as iconic as any of Nintendo's franchises. So yes, 'nothing special at all' is a correct statement.

Seeing as Nathan Drake has only been around this gen, not exactly a bad start
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#31 iMojo786_PSN
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Here is Sony's answer to the Smash Bros. series:

:lol:

Nintendonly

dont hurt yourself

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[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Jak and Dexter

Sly

Ratchet and Clank

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Sackboy

Solid Snake / Raiden

This is just off the top of my head, they could easily fill a roster and then some. Most of Sony's characters are pretty recognizable and a Sony smach bro's would be super awesome. How interested would you be in this?

XanderZane

The problem is, a lot of those games aren't owned by Sony. They would have to get permission to use some of those characters. A fighting game with al those characters would be cool. I would use Ratchet with all those crazy weapons.

Actually from that list the only two characters not owned by Sony are Solid Snake and Raiden all the other characters are from Nintendo IPs. Sony could possibly pull it off but they are no where near having the level of characters Nintendo has but that is because Nintendo was in the videogame industry for 10 - 15 years before Sony started making console and first party games. Before they made consoles they only worked on licensed games like Disney's Mickey Mania.

Edit* They could potentially have the same ammount of characters as Melee in the game it might not have all the cool stuff like trophies, and collectables that make the Smash series so great.

They have characters from Sly Cooper, Ratchet and Clank, inFAMOUS, God of War, Resistance, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Jak & Daxter, Ape Escape, Siren, LocoRoco, Patapon, Ico, SotC, Last Guardian, Omega Boost, MediEvil, Dark Cloud, Heavenly Sword, Mark of Kri/ Rise of Kasai, Demon Souls, and White Knight Chronicles.

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#33 Nintendonly
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Jak and Dexter

Sly

Ratchet and Clank

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Sackboy

Solid Snake / Raiden

This is just off the top of my head, they could easily fill a roster and then some. Most of Sony's characters are pretty recognizable and a Sony smach bro's would be super awesome. How interested would you be in this?

SolidTy

The problem is, a lot of those games aren't owned by Sony. They would have to get permission to use some of those characters. A fighting game with al those characters would be cool. I would use Ratchet with all those crazy weapons.

WRONG.

Actually, other than Metal Gear Characters in Green (Konami), those are all Sony Characters owned by Sony.

^This is correct. I am the master of knowing who owns intellectual properties. You can visit my post history for proof.

For example, ToeJam & Earl are owned by TJ&E Productions co-founder Greg Johnson, not SEGA Corporation.

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#34 madsnakehhh
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It could work at some level, sure, the impact in the gamer community, the overall popularity, and i would dare to say that even the quality of the game wouldn't top any Smash game, but i won't deny that it could be a fine idea.

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Jak and Dexter

Sly

Ratchet and Clank

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Sackboy

Solid Snake / Raiden

This is just off the top of my head, they could easily fill a roster and then some. Most of Sony's characters are pretty recognizable and a Sony smach bro's would be super awesome. How interested would you be in this?

Kokuro_Kun

What makes Smash so good isn't just the characters, but its party style fighter gameplay. And that's kind of hard to replicate.

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I'm not sure if it would work in a fighting game. It would be crazy to see a nut like kratos fighting Sly Cooper. ;)

Plus with some of the characters that are in Sony games, the level of violence and gore *cough*kratos*cough* would have to go above Super Smash Bros. games.

Not to mention outside of people that are deeply involved in gaming, alot of those characters are not well-known.

It COULD work in an action adventure game like someone mentioned earlier, but the whole idea just doesn't seem....Sony-ish.

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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]

Jak and Dexter

Sly

Ratchet and Clank

Drake

Nathan Hale

Kratos

Cole

Sackboy

Solid Snake / Raiden

This is just off the top of my head, they could easily fill a roster and then some. Most of Sony's characters are pretty recognizable and a Sony smach bro's would be super awesome. How interested would you be in this?

SolidTy

The problem is, a lot of those games aren't owned by Sony. They would have to get permission to use some of those characters. A fighting game with al those characters would be cool. I would use Ratchet with all those crazy weapons.

WRONG.

Actually, other than Metal Gear Characters in Green (Konami), those are all Sony Characters owned by Sony.

I believe you but I thought Insomniac went multiplat?
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="XanderZane"] The problem is, a lot of those games aren't owned by Sony. They would have to get permission to use some of those characters. A fighting game with al those characters would be cool. I would use Ratchet with all those crazy weapons.bobcheeseball

WRONG.

Actually, other than Metal Gear Characters in Green (Konami), those are all Sony Characters owned by Sony.

I believe you but I thought Insomniac went multiplat?

They did but all the games they made that were published by Sony are owned by Sony. Any title Insomniac makes after they went multiplat that isn't published by Sony is either going be owned by Insomniac or the publisher they work with.

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I believe you but I thought Insomniac went multiplat?bobcheeseball

So did Bungie, but you need to learn IP rights, please. Here's Microsoft's official list to tide you over-

http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/IntellectualProperty/Trademarks/EN-US.aspx

The copyright section on the back of your game boxes usually helps. For starters, Heavy Rain isn't owned by Sony, nor is Quantic Dream. But Quantic Dream owns the Heavy Rain IP.

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#40 Jelley0
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It would fail compared to any Smash bros game.

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I believe you but I thought Insomniac went multiplat?bobcheeseball

They did. Games like Resistance 3 and Ratchet and Clank will still be PS3 exclusive though (as it has a stronger fan base on the PS3).

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#43 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

I believe you but I thought Insomniac went multiplat?fend_oblivion

They did. Games like Resistance 3 and Ratchet and Clank will still be PS3 exclusive though (as it has a stronger fan base on the PS3).

That's not the reason they will still be exclusive to PS3 Sony just owns those two IPs.

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#44 Thessassin
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First off to everyone going, snake isnt owned by sony LOLOLOL.. snake is owned by konami but u see nintendo still using him so why cant sony?

Second, to all who say sony dosent have NEARLY enough characters, think about this. Wario, Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Yoshi, and Dr. Mario all basically came from 1 IP. So if sony were to follow through like that you could see, Ratchet, Clank, Quark, Kratos, Zeus, Athena, Hades, and Hercules. Thats more than enough Characters to chose from. Also think Captain falcon was a driver, not even a fighter, yet they still gave him moves. Sony could use the drivers form twisted metal series to fight as well.

and lastly, to everyone going. Well it wont be as fun as brawl... how do you know?

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#45 fend_oblivion
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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

I believe you but I thought Insomniac went multiplat?Nintendo_Ownes7

They did. Games like Resistance 3 and Ratchet and Clank will still be PS3 exclusive though (as it has a stronger fan base on the PS3).

That's not the reason they will still be exclusive to PS3 Sony just owns those two IPs.

Ah. Thanks :) Just checked on google.

Back on topic, this idea is amazing. It'll be perfect for gamers. Kratos, Cole, Hitoshura and a whole slew of SMT characters (who says they can't have 3rd party characters? ;) ), Snake, FF characters (again 3rd party), Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Nathan Drake, Nathan Hale, Sly Cooper and gang, Killzone characters, God Hand characters, Zone of the Enders characters, Nariko and gang (Ninja Theory is now 3rd party) and other possibilities are characters from DMC, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive, Onimusha etc - What more do you want? Everything from vengeful gods to wicked mechas.

It should be great for older gamers too.

This will be great. I hope Sony does something like this.

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#46 fend_oblivion
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First off to everyone going, snake isnt owned by sony LOLOLOL.. snake is owned by konami but u see nintendo still using him so why cant sony?

Second, to all who say sony dosent have NEARLY enough characters, think about this. Wario, Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Yoshi, and Dr. Mario all basically came from 1 IP. So if sony were to follow through like that you could see, Ratchet, Clank, Quark, Kratos, Zeus, Athena, Hades, and Hercules. Thats more than enough Characters to chose from. Also think Captain falcon was a driver, not even a fighter, yet they still gave him moves. Sony could use the drivers form twisted metal series to fight as well.

and lastly, to everyone going. Well it wont be as fun as brawl... how do you know?

Thessassin

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I don't see why people say it won't be fun like brawl. It'll be great.

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#47 Nintendonly
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

I believe you but I thought Insomniac went multiplat?fend_oblivion

They did. Games like Resistance 3 and Ratchet and Clank will still be PS3 exclusive though (as it has a stronger fan base on the PS3).

For crying out loud, IPs, IPs, IPs.

Do people not know what "IP" means? It means intellectual property. Even though Insomniac developed those games in question, they do not own the IP rights to any of them; Sony does. This is not the same situation as Heavy Rain being owned by Quantic Dream, who found Sony Computer Entertainment Europe to publish it for them. The only rights that Sony owns to Heavy Rain is publishing rights, nothing more. So Quantic Dream can make the sequels to the Heavy Rain IP multiplatform if they want.

You must always double check copyright information on the back of your game boxes to prevent confusion like this. Mass Effect 1 isn't coming to the PS3 because Microsoft Game Studios published it. The Mass Effect franchise is owned by Bioware (who was then slurped up by EA). As you can see, Mass Effect 2 is going to be on the PS3, and that is because Microsoft does not own the Mass Effect IP.

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#48 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

First off to everyone going, snake isnt owned by sony LOLOLOL.. snake is owned by konami but u see nintendo still using him so why cant sony?

Second, to all who say sony dosent have NEARLY enough characters, think about this. Wario, Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Yoshi, and Dr. Mario all basically came from 1 IP. So if sony were to follow through like that you could see, Ratchet, Clank, Quark, Kratos, Zeus, Athena, Hades, and Hercules. Thats more than enough Characters to chose from. Also think Captain falcon was a driver, not even a fighter, yet they still gave him moves. Sony could use the drivers form twisted metal series to fight as well.

and lastly, to everyone going. Well it wont be as fun as brawl... how do you know?

fend_oblivion

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I don't see why people say it won't be fun like brawl. It'll be great.

I agree I would buy it they can have characters from these IPs and maybe more. Sly Cooper, Ratchet and Clank, inFAMOUS, God of War, Resistance, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Jak & Daxter, Ape Escape, Siren, LocoRoco, Patapon, Ico, SotC, Last Guardian, Omega Boost, MediEvil, Dark Cloud, Heavenly Sword, Mark of Kri/ Rise of Kasai, Demon Souls, and White Knight Chronicles.

They have enough their for maybe 25 characters I think that is as many as they had in Melee. Also those are from different genres and almost all of Sony's first Party developers are represented.

Edit* I accidently put 15 it is suppose to be 25.

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#49 Nintendonly
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Nintendo wins again, baby:

Mario Sports Mix characters

Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest characters are in Mario Sports Mix.

The ??? is a Slime from Dragon Quest, confirmed via websites covering this game.

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#50 fend_oblivion
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Nintendonly

Sweet Jesus, I took back what I said on another quote. Good God, can't a person make a single mistake? I forgot that Sony owned those two IPs.