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#1 zero_snake99
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...but has been taken down by lawyers. Soooooo this youtube video will have to do.

http://sonicfanremix.com/

It says "Download Demo" but it's taken down.

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#2 Yangire
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If I was Sega I would buy the rights to it, complete it then sell it.

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#3 Jaysonguy
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Wow, who would have thought that stolen property would have been pulled?

What gets me is why even do this? You steal the character, you steal the world and enemies and then you release it yourself?

I hope Sega sues him so he has to live to 1000 to pay it all off

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#4 Jaysonguy
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If I was Sega I would buy the rights to it, complete it then sell it.

Yangire

Buy the rights to what?

This is all Sega's property, this guy stole it all and used it

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#5 Miroku32
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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

If I was Sega I would buy the rights to it, complete it then sell it.

Jaysonguy

Buy the rights to what?

This is all Sega's property, this guy stole it all and used it

Instead he fixed all the mistakes that Sega has done for years since Sonic 3. If I were Sega I would hire him.
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#6 Chemical_Viking
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Some of these guys are clearly so talented they could make their own game and probably triumph the average sonic 4 episode 1. Make a new character, beat the moribund sega at their own game, profit.

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#7 ohthemanatee
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So one guy has been able to do what Sega could not do for almost 20 years? for shame sega...
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#8 Yangire
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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

If I was Sega I would buy the rights to it, complete it then sell it.

Jaysonguy

Buy the rights to what?

This is all Sega's property, this guy stole it all and used it

Whatever he created, the engine, the models, etc.

He used the Sonic name and levels but there's still things he did on his own that they should take note of.

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#9 zero_snake99
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I don't think lawyers took the file down (it's up in other places). They (Team Sonic) almost always encourage fan made Sonic games. Especially the creator. I've got some screens... I won't post link to download until I know for sure it wasn't lawyers that took it down. PhotobucketPhotobucket

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#10 Valiant_Rebel
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I have the demo, and it is beautiful. The physics are actually working how they should. It's a shame Sega doesn't want to even acknowledge the people that worked on this.

Sega: "What!? There are people that like Sonic this much to show tribute to him!? Let's not make note of it. Let's take them down instead!!"

Haters gonna hate....themselves?

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#11 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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They should change the character design slightly and call it Sonik, Sega wont be able to do a damn thing lol.

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#12 RyuRanVII
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The gameplay is a lot better than Sonic 4. The acceleration, speed and physics were done right. :D
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#13 travisstaggs
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Now that is how you make a Sonic game.

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#14 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Watching the video doesn't do it justice. Play the demo and you will just see how amazingly better it is. Even if the full version never sees the light of day, this demo is proof of a 2D Sonic game done right.

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#15 zero_snake99
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Just beat the demo. It looks fantastic... It even has dynamic lighting and shadows! Anyway... things get cleared up, hopefully I'll be able to share this demo with you without being killed by the mods.
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#16 glez13
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

If I was Sega I would buy the rights to it, complete it then sell it.

Yangire

Buy the rights to what?

This is all Sega's property, this guy stole it all and used it

Whatever he created, the engine, the models, etc.

He used the Sonic name and levels but there's still things he did on his own that they should take note of.

This. Even if you play the demo you will see that the movement and physics are way better done than in Sonic 4. So there is no way he stealed something that doesn't exist. SEGA should buy it ASAP.

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#17 mitu123
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Sweet, downloading it now.

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#18 zero_snake99
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Sweet, downloading it now.

mitu123
Is the download back up?
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#20 Animal-Mother
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luckily I downloaded while at work this afternoon

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#21 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Sweet, downloading it now.

zero_snake99
Is the download back up?

Google 'Sonic Fan Remix Mirrors'. There are loads.
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#22 gamefan67
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I still have the demo on my comp, and I am not impressed at all.
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#23 PAL360
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Thats looks simply brilliant! :o

It´s incredible how a fan can make a better 2D Sonic game than the entire Sonic team!!!

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#24 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Sweet, downloading it now.

zero_snake99

Is the download back up?

There are mirrors in the youtube link.

Anyways I saw, I came and I left satifised too. I'll play it again.:D

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#25 pc-ps360
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im sorry to say this to all u praising this demo but sonic 4 is so much better. the graphics are not that great in the remix alot of the time u cant see **** the physics is amazing it like sonic 3 but the problem comes with the unresponsive controls it feels like there is lag when pressing any button. also teh levels are too dark and unimpressive the game feels like a flash game. sonic 4 is so much better

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#26 PAL360
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im sorry to say this to all u praising this demo but sonic 4 is so much better. the graphics are not that great in the remix alot of the time u cant see **** the physics is amazing it like sonic 3 but the problem comes with the unresponsive controls it feels like there is lag when pressing any button. also teh levels are too dark and unimpressive the game feels like a flash game. sonic 4 is so much better

pc-ps360

Sonic 4 could have been fantastic if the gameplay wasnt so crappy! Sonic1 plays alot better and it´s a 20 years old game. Why fix it if it´s not broken?

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#27 mahlasor
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I still have the demo on my comp, and I am not impressed at all.gamefan67

This guy ^^^, works for sega.

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#28 pc-ps360
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[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

im sorry to say this to all u praising this demo but sonic 4 is so much better. the graphics are not that great in the remix alot of the time u cant see **** the physics is amazing it like sonic 3 but the problem comes with the unresponsive controls it feels like there is lag when pressing any button. also teh levels are too dark and unimpressive the game feels like a flash game. sonic 4 is so much better

PAL360

Sonic 4 could have been fantastic if the gameplay wasnt so crappy! Sonic1 plays alot better and it´s a 20 years old game. Why fix it if it´s not broken?

sonic 4 is an amazing game i love it. i dont think sonic 1 is better. i rank them

sonic3k> sonic4>sonic 2>>>>>sonic1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sonicfanremix

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#29 gamefan67
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[QUOTE="gamefan67"]I still have the demo on my comp, and I am not impressed at all.mahlasor

This guy ^^^, works for sega.

Nah, this game just feels like a re-skinned Sonic 2, with rather distracting graphics (it hides enemies half of the time) and laggy controls. These are things that can be fixed, but until then I'm not going to fangasm over this just cause it is a decent 2d Sonic demo at best:wink:
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#30 hexashadow13
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That was amazing. There some small things that need fixing up and it overall looks low budget, but he got the gist of Sonic PERFECTLY. Considering this was one guy thats incredibly impressive. With a larger budget and more people this could easily be a GREAT Sonic game. SEGA need to hire this guy and make his game the way he wants it to be made.
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#31 Zanoh
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Some of these guys are clearly so talented they could make their own game and probably triumph the average sonic 4 episode 1. Make a new character, beat the moribund sega at their own game, profit.

Chemical_Viking

There's nothing AVERAGE about it if it is getting praise on metacritic. Honestly, I can't seem to be calling myself a Sonic fan these days. :roll:

My thoughts: Good job at someone who took time and dedication to make a good game not made by a developer.

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]That was amazing. There some small things that need fixing up and it overall looks low budget, but he got the gist of Sonic PERFECTLY. Considering this was one guy thats incredibly impressive. With a larger budget and more people this could easily be a GREAT Sonic game. SEGA need to hire this guy and make his game the way he wants it to be made.

Instead they'll sue him for millions of dollars. Ruin his life, and continue to make horrid sonic games/
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#33 sonic_spark
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Wow, who would have thought that stolen property would have been pulled?

What gets me is why even do this? You steal the character, you steal the world and enemies and then you release it yourself?

I hope Sega sues him so he has to live to 1000 to pay it all off

Jaysonguy

So you're against the mod community, and independent developers? It's a free download, how does he profit? This is fantastic. We should be encouraging free lance developers like this so they get into the business.

This game looks marvelous. That's how Sonic 4 should've been. Great artstyle, great animation, and a lot of stuff going on in the background. I hope these guys do the entire Genesis trilogy.

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#34 RyuRanVII
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[QUOTE="gamefan67"]I still have the demo on my comp, and I am not impressed at all.mahlasor

This guy ^^^, works for sega.

No. That's just a generic excuse from people who couldn't run the demo with more than 5 FPS. :D

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#35 GTSaiyanjin2
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so is this still using code from the original sonic games ? or did he make it from scratch

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#36 Zanoh
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This game looks marvelous. That's how Sonic 4 should've been. Great artstyle, great animation, and a lot of stuff going on in the background. I hope these guys do the entire Genesis trilogy.

sonic_spark

Sonic 4 is fine as is....I don't see what the whole complaining is about. :/

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#37 Dahaka-UK
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If Sega sue it's only because they know how much of a superior iteration of Sonic it is compared to anything they have done in decades. I really doubt they give a damn about low budget Sonic rip offs. Sonic 4 is an ok attempt but it's still ways apart from being on par with the genesis games. This fan remake blows it out the water and into the sun.

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#38 sonic_spark
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That was amazing. There some small things that need fixing up and it overall looks low budget, but he got the gist of Sonic PERFECTLY. Considering this was one guy thats incredibly impressive. With a larger budget and more people this could easily be a GREAT Sonic game. SEGA need to hire this guy and make his game the way he wants it to be made.hexashadow13

I didn't think it looked low budget. That whale coming in was well animated. And going off on what someone else said, this game is leaps and bounds better than a flash game.

Something about the art style really grabs me. I think I was sold when I saw Robotnik's robot flying in the background.

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#39 RyuRanVII
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[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Wow, who would have thought that stolen property would have been pulled?

What gets me is why even do this? You steal the character, you steal the world and enemies and then you release it yourself?

I hope Sega sues him so he has to live to 1000 to pay it all off

So you're against the mod community, and independent developers? It's a free download, how does he profit? This is fantastic. We should be encouraging free lance developers like this so they get into the business.

This game looks marvelous. That's how Sonic 4 should've been. Great artstyle, great animation, and a lot of stuff going on in the background. I hope these guys do the entire Genesis trilogy.

True. Sega should do as Gearbox did with Duke Nukem Remake: Fan Made Duke Nukem 3D Remake Green Lighted by Gearbox
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#40 Shewgenja
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Wow, This demo is brilliant! I wish they didnt use the same backdrop for every level, but considering it's a fan made demo it knocks the lights out of any sonic game I've played recently except 4.

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#41 Zanoh
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Wow, This demo is brilliant! I wish they didnt use the same backdrop for every level, but considering it's a fan made demo it knocks the lights out of any sonic game I've played recently except 4.

Shewgenja

Agreed. This and 4 are noteworthy examples of what to do with the Sonic Franchise.

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#42 sonic_spark
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[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

This game looks marvelous. That's how Sonic 4 should've been. Great artstyle, great animation, and a lot of stuff going on in the background. I hope these guys do the entire Genesis trilogy.

Zanoh

Sonic 4 is fine as is....I don't see what the whole complaining is about. :/

Oh I'm not complaining. What I really liked about the demo that is different than Sonic 4 is all the stuff going on in the background. Haha, I think it's just an artistic difference.

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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

Wow, This demo is brilliant! I wish they didnt use the same backdrop for every level, but considering it's a fan made demo it knocks the lights out of any sonic game I've played recently except 4.

Zanoh

Agreed. This and 4 are noteworthy examples of what to do with the Sonic Franchise.

Too bad Sega wont be appreiciating it as much as you are. They will surely have it taken down and in the worst case sue the people that made it. It would ruin their image having a fan made Sonic game exceed their own poor attempt. Thats the reality of the situation here.

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#44 MobilechicaneX
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Why is there so much talk about Sonic 4 but zero talk about Sonic Colours? 9/10 from Nintendo Power and 86% from NGamer yet no threads...

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#45 Dahaka-UK
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[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

This game looks marvelous. That's how Sonic 4 should've been. Great artstyle, great animation, and a lot of stuff going on in the background. I hope these guys do the entire Genesis trilogy.

sonic_spark

Sonic 4 is fine as is....I don't see what the whole complaining is about. :/

Oh I'm not complaining. What I really liked about the demo that is different than Sonic 4 is all the stuff going on in the background. Haha, I think it's just an artistic difference.

An the music and the physics. The music is terrible in Sonic 4. I'm surprised reviews don't bring this up. The boss music consists of a 4 second loop.
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#46 Zanoh
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[QUOTE="sonic_spark"]

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

Sonic 4 is fine as is....I don't see what the whole complaining is about. :/

Dahaka-UK

Oh I'm not complaining. What I really liked about the demo that is different than Sonic 4 is all the stuff going on in the background. Haha, I think it's just an artistic difference.

An the music and the physics. The music is terrible in Sonic 4. I'm surprised reviews don't bring this up. The boss music consists of a 4 second loop.

There is nothing wrong with the physics. It's just fine as is. I had proven this point countless times that I am not going to bother. :/

Music: a 4 second boss loop and the music in Sonic 4 is much better than hearing "Seven rings in hand" almost every rendition of it in every level stage and option. YOU tell me that?

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#47 Zanoh
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Why is there so much talk about Sonic 4 but zero talk about Sonic Colours? 9/10 from Nintendo Power and 86% from NGamer yet no threads...

MobilechicaneX

I am waiting on metacritic to do a full tally before I buy it.

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#48 Dahaka-UK
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Why is there so much talk about Sonic 4 but zero talk about Sonic Colours? 9/10 from Nintendo Power and 86% from NGamer yet no threads...

MobilechicaneX
It's on the Wii.. Go figure.. I'm not buying a Wii.
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#49 mitu123
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Why is there so much talk about Sonic 4 but zero talk about Sonic Colours? 9/10 from Nintendo Power and 86% from NGamer yet no threads...

MobilechicaneX

It's 3D Sonic, it can still score bad, we'll see, though I hope for A at least.

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#50 MobilechicaneX
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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

Why is there so much talk about Sonic 4 but zero talk about Sonic Colours? 9/10 from Nintendo Power and 86% from NGamer yet no threads...

mitu123

It's 3D Sonic, it can still score bad, we'll see, though I hope for A at least.

The game WILL be A at the very least, theres just no doubt, Colours is better than 4 in every single way possible. Scoring below 4 will be just wrong. Im hyping at AA...maybe even more...