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#1 princeofshapeir
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Solid Snake and Sam Fisher are identical characters. Both are stealthy mercenaries that have missions to complete. Both who is better than the other?

Versus:

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#2 Greyhound222
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I like Snake better,but Sam is the better spy.
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#3 princeofshapeir
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I like Snake better,but Sam is the better spy.Greyhound222

I actually agree that Sam Fisher is a stealthier spy. However, Snake is more experienced in combat, so in a direct fight, Snake would definitely win.

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#4 Sonick54
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snake can do the matrix

snake>sam

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#5 Greyhound222
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[QUOTE="Greyhound222"]I like Snake better,but Sam is the better spy.princeofshapeir

I actually agree that Sam Fisher is a stealthier spy. However, Snake is more experienced in combat, so in a direct fight, Snake would definitely win.

Well in a direct fight,yeah,but under normal conditions Sam would win,I think.
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#6 MasterC5
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Snake is fully trained in CQC so in the open no contest, however fisher is better at stealth, so if he snuk up on him he would prboably win.
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#7 solidgamer
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snake is so much cooler
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#8 Epak_
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Snake is fully trained in CQB so in the open no contest, however fisher is better at stealth, so if he snuk up on him he would prboably win.MasterC5

Snake can easily spot Fishers night goggles and the 'GPSwhateverthingy' on his back. Plus Sam ain't half the character Snake is.

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#9 niall077
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Solid snake is a clone of big boss

SamFisher is a clone of solid snake

so Big Boss for me.... he looks better in a tuxiedo

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#10 MasterC5
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[QUOTE="MasterC5"]Snake is fully trained in CQC so in the open no contest, however fisher is better at stealth, so if he snuk up on him he would prboably win.Epak_

Snake can easily spot Fishers night goggles and the 'GPSwhateverthingy' on his back. Plus Sam ain't half the character Snake is.

I cant argue with that
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#11 Greyhound222
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Solid snake is a clone of big boss

SamFisher is a clone of solid snake

so Big Boss for me.... he looks better in a tuxiedo

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I just turned on Metallica as I saw your avatar! ON TOPIC:The Sam Fisher goggles are really stupid.
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#12 niall077
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well there both better then Raiden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mct2ueFMdA8&feature=related

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#13 robotech31
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Solid snake no doubt. this vid is proof lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGvlzR-cD7I
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#14 CommanderTy
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Snake wins end thread
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#15 ThisCurse
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Sam Fisher all the way!

Solid Snake has a lot of homoerotic overtones that just makes my stomach turn. No offence.

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#16 Swift_Boss_A
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lol you should have chosen the MGS4 pic ofSNAKE instead of that family friendly looking one.

Solid Snake is a born soldier, after all he was cloned from the legendary Big Boss and was brought up as a deadly warrior. battlefield is Snakes Home and no one knows the battlefield better then Snake.

Also Sam Fisher looks like a hobo in Convictions.

Heres a better pic of Snake :D

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#17 I_Helios_I
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If it came down to who was the most stealthy Sam Fisher wins hand down. Solid Snake is just too much of a bad ass though to lose a fight like that, He takes on genetically enhanced super soldiers for god sake!!! lol
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#18 vauba_haoly
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If they got into a fight Sam would stand there and swing his elbow while Snake was efficiently killing him.
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#19 brainiac1988
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Solid Snake, fluent in six languages, an IQ of 180, is an expert in scuba-diving, mountain climbing, parachuting, martial arts and small arms. Very well trained, he's capable of infiltrating any place under any circumstances...

Not to forget that he's in fact a super-human. The last one with the "warrior-genes" from big boss, who he also defeated.

Singlehandedly fought a M1 Tank, Hind-D helicopter, lots and lots of genome soldiers, Snipers, a guy with a minigun, a cyborg ninja...and, of course.. several metal gears.

Sam Fisher would **** in his pants.

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#20 ONLYDOD
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Snake all the way, theres no contest.
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#21 Hewkii
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Big Boss >>>>> both.
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#22 aliblabla2007
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Solid Snake.
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#23 akif22
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easily snake
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#24 deactivated-58319077a6477
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Solid Snake.
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#25 MadExponent
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Better developed character...Snake.

Who would probably win in a real world situation....Sam.

You should have said, fanboys, who do you like more?

Sam is an NSA agent, the game Splinter Cell is very very difficult if you are seen. Whereas in MGS you run away for a split second. Not hating on MGS for that, but thats why Sam would win. Plus, Sam would just do a split jump and wait for Snake to walk underneath him.

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#26 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Solid Snake is based off of Snake Plisskin in John Carpenter's classic Escape from New York, so that by default makes him better.

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#27 Epak_
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Better developed character...Snake.

Who would probably win in a real world situation....Sam.

You should have said, fanboys, who do you like more?

Sam is an NSA agent, the game Splinter Cell is very very difficult if you are seen. Whereas in MGS you run away for a split second. Not hating on MGS for that, but thats why Sam would win. Plus, Sam would just do a split jump and wait for Snake to walk underneath him.

MadExponent

Sam should turn off his night goggles though, Snake isn't blind.

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#28 kingdre
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In the real world, Fisher stands a better chance. Snake's world is more fictional so he has more leeway to do whatever.
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#29 skrat_01
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Duh, Snake.

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#30 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Better developed character...Snake.

Who would probably win in a real world situation....Sam.

You should have said, fanboys, who do you like more?

Sam is an NSA agent, the game Splinter Cell is very very difficult if you are seen. Whereas in MGS you run away for a split second. Not hating on MGS for that, but thats why Sam would win. Plus, Sam would just do a split jump and wait for Snake to walk underneath him.

Epak_

Sam should turn off his night goggles though, Snake isn't blind.

I got the feeling that the lights were thrown in for effect, so the player could see Sam. I highly doubt in real life those would be visible. It would render the idea of being stealth useless.

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#31 Epak_
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[QUOTE="Epak_"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Better developed character...Snake.

Who would probably win in a real world situation....Sam.

You should have said, fanboys, who do you like more?

Sam is an NSA agent, the game Splinter Cell is very very difficult if you are seen. Whereas in MGS you run away for a split second. Not hating on MGS for that, but thats why Sam would win. Plus, Sam would just do a split jump and wait for Snake to walk underneath him.

MadExponent

Sam should turn off his night goggles though, Snake isn't blind.

I got the feeling that the lights were thrown in for effect, so the player could see Sam. I highly doubt in real life those would be visible. It would render the idea of being stealth useless.

Well obviously, but it's still a valid point. This is a game character debate after all :P

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#32 Albanian_Killa
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Snake is better at stealth (OctoCamo and Stealth Camo) and combat (crotch-grabbing, having DNA of legendary warrior Big Boss says it all). Fisher doesn't stand a chance.
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#33 VanHelsingBoA64
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Big Boss >>>>> both.Hewkii

Pretty much.

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#34 omgimba
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Snake can't be killed very fast since he is invulnerable a little time after each hit.

I think that skill would come in handy.

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#35 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="Epak_"][QUOTE="MadExponent"]

Better developed character...Snake.

Who would probably win in a real world situation....Sam.

You should have said, fanboys, who do you like more?

Sam is an NSA agent, the game Splinter Cell is very very difficult if you are seen. Whereas in MGS you run away for a split second. Not hating on MGS for that, but thats why Sam would win. Plus, Sam would just do a split jump and wait for Snake to walk underneath him.

Epak_

Sam should turn off his night goggles though, Snake isn't blind.

I got the feeling that the lights were thrown in for effect, so the player could see Sam. I highly doubt in real life those would be visible. It would render the idea of being stealth useless.

Well obviously, but it's still a valid point. This is a game character debate after all :P

I know, I find it hilarious how his NVG and the light on his back are never seen :lol: It's so obvious to see him in a real life situation like that lol

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#36 sam280992
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Snake has Octo-Camo? you all seem to forget that, Judging by the first two Splinter Cell games I've played, he can only basically hide in the dark?

Hand to Hand combat

Sam has no chance.

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#37 carljohnson3456
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Snake. He's the original.

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#38 skrat_01
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Snake. He's the original.

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Actually BJ Blaskowitz from Castle Wolfenstein is
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#39 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Snake. He's the original.

skrat_01

Actually BJ Blaskowitz from Castle Wolfenstein is

But between Snake and Fisher, Snake is.

When did Wolfenstein come out anyway?

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#40 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Snake. He's the original.

carljohnson3456

Actually BJ Blaskowitz from Castle Wolfenstein is

But between Snake and Fisher, Snake is.

When did Wolfenstein come out anyway?

Wolf came out 3 or 4 years before Metal Gear, and is a surprisingly progressive and innovative game for its time. You could steal uniforms and whatnot.

I guess you could stick Garret from Thief in there too, considering Thief came out before MGS and SC (note that SCs gameplay copies alot off Thiefs, however its in a modern setting).

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#42 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

Snake. He's the original.

skrat_01

Actually BJ Blaskowitz from Castle Wolfenstein is

But between Snake and Fisher, Snake is.

When did Wolfenstein come out anyway?

Wolf came out 3 or 4 years before Metal Gear, and is a surprisingly progressive and innovative game for its time. You could steal uniforms and whatnot.

I guess you could stick Garret from Thief in there too, considering Thief came out before MGS and SC (note that SCs gameplay copies alot off Thiefs, however its in a modern setting).

lol I think I actually played Wolfenstien a looong time ago. My grandmother (of all people) had it on her old computer, it ran like Windows 94, lol. My uncle put it on there, so that's why it was. I was a kid and didnt know how important it was to gaming yet, lol.

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#43 Swift_Boss_A
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Sadly Snake is no longer solid, his old but can still outdo Sam Fisher any day of the week.
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#44 skrat_01
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lol I think I actually played Wolfenstien a looong time ago. My grandmother (of all people) had it on her old computer, it ran like Windows 94, lol. My uncle put it on there, so that's why it was. I was a kid and didnt know how important it was to gaming yet, lol.

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That might have been Wolfenstein 3D which was the grandaddy of the FPS genre, as the original Wolf was out in 81 and was on DOS, Apple 2, Commodore 64 and Atari 8 bit.

Here is the wiki link for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Wolfenstein

Eitherway not many people remember how important the original Wolf is to gaming, even many game critics say 'Metal Gear pioneered the stealth genre'.

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#45 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Seeing as snake is a chessy action movie star that uses laughable "stealth" techniques (hiding in boxes,lockers,barrels and throwing out adult magazines) I would choose sam fisher just because he's an ACTUAL spy not some overatted overdramatic character like snake.
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#46 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

lol I think I actually played Wolfenstien a looong time ago. My grandmother (of all people) had it on her old computer, it ran like Windows 94, lol. My uncle put it on there, so that's why it was. I was a kid and didnt know how important it was to gaming yet, lol.

skrat_01

That might have been Wolfenstein 3D which was the grandaddy of the FPS genre, as the original Wolf was out in 81 and was on DOS, Apple 2, Commodore 64 and Atari 8 bit.

Here is the wiki link for it: ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Wolfenstein

Eitherway not many people remember how important the original Wolf is to gaming, even many game critics say 'Metal Gear pioneered the stealth genre'.

Yup, you're right. It was Wolfenstein 3D. Good times, lol.

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Seeing as snake is a chessy action movie star that uses laughable "stealth" techniques (hiding in boxes,lockers,barrels and throwing out adult magazines) I would choose sam fisher just because he's an ACTUAL spy not some overatted overdramatic character like snake.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

MGS4 = 10.

/thread.

:lol: Jk, I see that alot and it gets old.

Anyway, I dont think Snake is cheesy at all. I used to like that Sam Fisher seemed like an actual spy though... but I like the MGS universe and all it's over the top bad guys. I mean, you could never have a character like Vamp or Physco Mantis in Splinter Cell. I guess what I am saying is... I'm glad they both exist. :) lol.

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#48 sam280992
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Seeing as snake is a chessy action movie star that uses laughable "stealth" techniques (hiding in boxes,lockers,barrels and throwing out adult magazines) I would choose sam fisher just because he's an ACTUAL spy not some overatted overdramatic character like snake.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Of course you would say that, You have been bashing MGS4 for months on. You wouldn't just turn around and choose the character that stars the game you hate.

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It's hard to compare because they live in drastically different universes. Since I prefer things a little more real and alot less melodramatic, my vote goes to Sam Fisher.
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#50 sam280992
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Seeing as snake is a chessy action movie star that uses laughable "stealth" techniques (hiding in boxes,lockers,barrels and throwing out adult magazines) I would choose sam fisher just because he's an ACTUAL spy not some overatted overdramatic character like snake.carljohnson3456

MGS4 = 10.

/thread.

:lol: Jk, I see that alot and it gets old.

Anyway, I dont think Snake is cheesy at all. I used to like that Sam Fisher seemed like an actual spy though... but I like the MGS universe and all it's over the top bad guys. I mean, you could never have a character like Vamp or Physco Mantis in Splinter Cell. I guess what I am saying is... I'm glad they both exist. :) lol.

I :lol: so badly when someone just randomly says MGS4 = 10. It has nothing to do with the topic and someone just randomly comes in and say it. And all the Fanboys get all worked up over it.