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#1 ihsanqueen
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Lemmings said that Gears of War 3 will be the best exclusive this gen, defeating Uncharted 2

Unfortunately in MC, Gears of War 3 only scored 91 while Uncharted 2 scored 96

And forza only scored 8.5 here

So after Gears of War 3 and Forza 4 failed to defeat Uncharted 2, is there any 360 exclusives that can defeat Uncharted 2? considering there's no 360 exclusives again this year

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#2 lundy86_4
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They said it would be the best exclusive this gen?

Anyway, why does something need to defeat UC2? It's a fantastic game with a score to match. So is Gears 3.

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#3 MonsieurX
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Does it make it a bad game?
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#4 mems_1224
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gears is better than uncharted.....
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#5 Blabadon
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More reviewers have changed their scoring systems, I can guarantee you Gears 3 would have gotten a 9.2 or 9.3 if allowed on IGN.
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#6 Blabadon
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gears is better than uncharted.....mems_1224
Uncharted is better than Gears. What now?
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#7 lundy86_4
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gears is better than uncharted.....mems_1224

I'm sure many people would agree. I'm sure many think the contrary as well. Personally, I like them both as much as each other.

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#8 razgriz_101
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gears is better than uncharted.....mems_1224

both are good but to be honest outside the shooting mechanic its like comparing apples and oranges.

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#9 Heil68
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Good points. Uncharted 2 is 6th in best scoring games of ALL time. I feel that's why U3 will flop here.
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#10 Ninja-Hippo
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Why do you use MC when the score is lower than Gamespot, but Gamespot when the score is lower than MC?
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#12 LustForSoul
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ONLY a 91. That's nothing. Personal opinion still, cause gears beats uncharted.
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#13 Lexter45
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ONLY a 91. That's nothing. Personal opinion still, cause gears beats uncharted.LustForSoul
Sub Par experience. I lol'd.
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#14 StrongDeadlift
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ONLY a 91. That's nothing. Personal opinion still, cause gears beats uncharted.LustForSoul
Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)
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#15 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]ONLY a 91. That's nothing. Personal opinion still, cause gears beats uncharted.StrongDeadlift
Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)

Or perhaps he'll enjoy superiority over those dictated by meaningless numbers. ;)

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#16 Lexter45
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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]ONLY a 91. That's nothing. Personal opinion still, cause gears beats uncharted.StrongDeadlift
Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)

You're saying it's just his opinion, that's all MC is... a bunch of opinions...
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#17 Mozelleple112
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Metal Gear Solid 4 > Uncharted 2 = SMG1/2 > the rest of the games

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[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]ONLY a 91. That's nothing. Personal opinion still, cause gears beats uncharted.StrongDeadlift
Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)

comments like this just make me come less and less to SW...

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#19 Deadbeatcobra
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Metal Gear Solid 4 > Uncharted 2 = SMG1/2 > the rest of the games

Mozelleple112

wouldnt it be MGS4 = SMG2 > uncharted 2 score wise?

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Why do you use MC when the score is lower than Gamespot, but Gamespot when the score is lower than MC? StrongDeadlift
You are right. TC is a hippocrite. But that is not the point of the thread. The point of the thread is showing the clear and factual inferiority of Gears 3 to Uncharted 2. I know its hard, but sometimes you just have to learn to accept a sub-par experience. ;)

Yeah... could be seen as a little hypocritical. I assumed he used MC to comapre Gears 3 and Uncharted 2, since they're score here is the same. I'm not sure why Forza even came into it, being such a massively different game, but it would have looked better had he pointed out its GS score being lower, but also compare the MC. 92 < 96. From a score standpoint, PS3's best are better than 360's best. MGS4 > any 360 exclusive on GS, and tied with 360's best on MC. Uncharted 2 is tied with 360's best on GS, and > any 360 exclusive on MC.

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#21 LegatoSkyheart
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They're about equal in my eyes.

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#22 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="LustForSoul"]ONLY a 91. That's nothing. Personal opinion still, cause gears beats uncharted.mmmwksil

Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)

Or perhaps he'll enjoy superiority over those dictated by meaningless numbers. ;)

Or perhaps I will enjoy BOTH, over those who have to pick one :). However, in the unfortunate event that I DID have to pick one, it wouldnt be the inferior sub par one. But hey, maybe sub-par-ness is your thing. If you are comfortable with mediocrity, all the power to you. Some people aspire to work towards the proverbial Beamer or Mercadies in life, and others are content with the metaphorical christler 300s of life.

but hey, if sub par experiences are your thing....

[spoiler] For those who could not figure it out on the last page, I was blatantly trolling. I do not actually believe the opinion expressed above, nor the one on the last page. Both games will be excellent and I am buying them both. [/spoiler]

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#23 n00bkid
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And then Uncharted 3 comes by and rips through all console games like uncharted 2 did :)
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#24 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)StrongDeadlift

Or perhaps he'll enjoy superiority over those dictated by meaningless numbers. ;)

Or perhaps I will enjoy BOTH, over those who have to pick one :). However, in the unfortunate event that I DID have to pick one, it wouldnt be the inferior sub par one. But hey, maybe sub-par-ness is your thing. If you are comfortable with mediocrity, all the power to you. Some people aspire to work towards the proverbial Beamer or Mercadies in life, and others are content with the metaphorical christler 300s of life.

but hey, if sub par experiences are your thing....

You're still letting a number some random person slapped on the game determine what's good in your eyes.

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#25 Lexter45
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)StrongDeadlift

Or perhaps he'll enjoy superiority over those dictated by meaningless numbers. ;)

Or perhaps I will enjoy BOTH, over those who have to pick one :). However, in the unfortunate event that I DID have to pick one, it wouldnt be the inferior sub par one. But hey, maybe sub-par-ness is your thing. If you are comfortable with mediocrity, all the power to you. Some people aspire to work towards the proverbial Beamer or Mercadies in life, and others are content with the metaphorical christler 300s of life.

but hey, if sub par experiences are your thing....

If Sub Par experiences were my thing I'd have an Uncharted 2 Avy and Sig and would highly anticipate Uncharted 3.
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#26 Qwark-PS-Snake
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I think Gears won because it actually has a storyline. Uncharted just stops and starts with the same premise, the only development is Nate and Elena's relationship. Anyway it looks like they haven't improved anything gameplay wise for U3 which is dissapointing consdering the poor gunplay U2 had.
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="LustForSoul"]ONLY a 91. That's nothing. Personal opinion still, cause gears beats uncharted.Lexter45
Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)

You're saying it's just his opinion, that's all MC is... a bunch of opinions...

Yeah, but while one's own personal opinion should be the most important for each individual person, it prevents any kind of consensus. When discussing which game is better overall, not just in your own personal opinion, average opinion of professional critics (whose job is to rate the quality of games, and are generally trusted by both the industry and the general gaming populace to do so) > opinion of one professional critic > opinion of any one random gamer.

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#28 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Or perhaps he'll enjoy superiority over those dictated by meaningless numbers. ;)

mmmwksil

Or perhaps I will enjoy BOTH, over those who have to pick one :). However, in the unfortunate event that I DID have to pick one, it wouldnt be the inferior sub par one. But hey, maybe sub-par-ness is your thing. If you are comfortable with mediocrity, all the power to you. Some people aspire to work towards the proverbial Beamer or Mercadies in life, and others are content with the metaphorical christler 300s of life.

but hey, if sub par experiences are your thing....

You're still letting a number some random person slapped on the game determine what's good in your eyes.

you do realize I was blatantly and shamelessly trolling with my comments on the last page right? I was not serious.
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#29 Lexter45
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[QUOTE="Lexter45"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Yes, that is your personal opinion, however the metacritic score dissagrees with you. Enjoy inferiority :)ianuilliam

You're saying it's just his opinion, that's all MC is... a bunch of opinions...

Yeah, but while one's own personal opinion should be the most important for each individual person, it prevents any kind of consensus. When discussing which game is better overall, not just in your own personal opinion, average opinion of professional critics (whose job is to rate the quality of games, and are generally trusted by both the industry and the general gaming populace to do so) > opinion of one professional critic > opinion of any one random gamer.

I can write a detailed and Profesional Review on why Uncharted 2 deserves a 1 out of 10, does that mean it actually does and my opinion should be held higher than others?

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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Or perhaps I will enjoy BOTH, over those who have to pick one :). However, in the unfortunate event that I DID have to pick one, it wouldnt be the inferior sub par one. But hey, maybe sub-par-ness is your thing. If you are comfortable with mediocrity, all the power to you. Some people aspire to work towards the proverbial Beamer or Mercadies in life, and others are content with the metaphorical christler 300s of life.

but hey, if sub par experiences are your thing....

StrongDeadlift

You're still letting a number some random person slapped on the game determine what's good in your eyes.

you do realize I was blatantly and shamelessly trolling with my comments on the last page right? I was not serious.

I had a feeling you were trolling. :P You take it a bit farther than usual, so people get confused.

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#31 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

You're still letting a number some random person slapped on the game determine what's good in your eyes.

mmmwksil

you do realize I was blatantly and shamelessly trolling with my comments on the last page right? I was not serious.

I had a feeling you were trolling. :P You take it a bit farther than usual, so people get confused.

I know. Lol, I was going to put a spoiler in that first post, but figured "what the hell, Ill let a few replies build up" :P Im getting both games.
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#32 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="Lexter45"] You're saying it's just his opinion, that's all MC is... a bunch of opinions...Lexter45

Yeah, but while one's own personal opinion should be the most important for each individual person, it prevents any kind of consensus. When discussing which game is better overall, not just in your own personal opinion, average opinion of professional critics (whose job is to rate the quality of games, and are generally trusted by both the industry and the general gaming populace to do so) > opinion of one professional critic > opinion of any one random gamer.

I can write a detailed and Profesional Review on why Uncharted 2 deserves a 1 out of 10, does that mean it actually does and my opinion should be held higher than others?

Yeah... as soon as you go get hired by an industry-respected gaming journalism mag/site. Of course as soon as you write that review, whichever mag/site you worked for would probably pull the review and fire you for making them look like over-the-top fanboys.

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[QUOTE="Lexter45"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Yeah, but while one's own personal opinion should be the most important for each individual person, it prevents any kind of consensus. When discussing which game is better overall, not just in your own personal opinion, average opinion of professional critics (whose job is to rate the quality of games, and are generally trusted by both the industry and the general gaming populace to do so) > opinion of one professional critic > opinion of any one random gamer.

ianuilliam

I can write a detailed and Profesional Review on why Uncharted 2 deserves a 1 out of 10, does that mean it actually does and my opinion should be held higher than others?

Yeah... as soon as you go get hired by an industry-respected gaming journalism mag/site. Of course as soon as you write that review, whichever mag/site you worked for would probably pull the review and fire you for making them look like over-the-top fanboys.

Why do9 I have to be hired by an Industry respected Gaming Journalist site? Does having IGN on my review somehow increase its quality :?
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I don't get it, it's all opinion based. I've played games that scored 4.5 and enjoyed them way more than some of the 9.0 games. Why are they even compared, just because of the third person? PLEASE.
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#35 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="Lexter45"]

I can write a detailed and Profesional Review on why Uncharted 2 deserves a 1 out of 10, does that mean it actually does and my opinion should be held higher than others?

Lexter45

Yeah... as soon as you go get hired by an industry-respected gaming journalism mag/site. Of course as soon as you write that review, whichever mag/site you worked for would probably pull the review and fire you for making them look like over-the-top fanboys.

Why do9 I have to be hired by an Industry respected Gaming Journalist site? Does having IGN on my review somehow increase its quality :?

Yes it does actually. Especially considering Metacritic weighs each website in its system by how credible it is, and more larger sites have a higher weight on the overall score. IGN and Gamespot scores have a larger weight than smaller, lesser known sites. Not to mention, there is criteria you have to meet before you are even eligible to be calculated. You cant just put together a no name blog, and post it up there. There is criteria you have to meet, and they review your website.

Oh, and IGN is the largest gaming website on the internet btw, with Gamespot being the second.

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Oh, and IGN is the largest gaming website on the internet btw, with Gamespot being the second.

StrongDeadlift

We all know Glitchspot is still the coolest, though. ;)

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#37 Lexter45
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[QUOTE="Lexter45"][QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Yeah... as soon as you go get hired by an industry-respected gaming journalism mag/site. Of course as soon as you write that review, whichever mag/site you worked for would probably pull the review and fire you for making them look like over-the-top fanboys.

StrongDeadlift

Why do9 I have to be hired by an Industry respected Gaming Journalist site? Does having IGN on my review somehow increase its quality :?

Yes it does actually. Especially considering Metacritic weighs each website in its system by how credible it is, and more larger sites have a higher weight on the overall score. IGN and Gamespot scores have a larger weight than smaller, lesser known sites. Not to mention, there is criteria you have to meet before you are even eligible to be calculated. You cant just put together a no name blog, and post it up there. There is criteria you have to meet, and they review your website.

Oh, and IGN is the largest gaming website on the internet btw, with Gamespot being the second.

And how does that affect the Quality of the review :? Because IGN is more well known than me? If Justin Bieber says Kinectimals is the best game ever does that make it true ?
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#38 DarthBilf
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Lemmings said that Gears of War 3 will be the best exclusive this gen, defeating Uncharted 2

Unfortunately in MC, Gears of War 3 only scored 91 while Uncharted 2 scored 96

And forza only scored 8.5 here

So after Gears of War 3 and Forza 4 failed to defeat Uncharted 2, is there any 360 exclusives that can defeat Uncharted 2? considering there's no 360 exclusives again this year

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Way to use MC when it benefits your argument, yet ignore it when it doesn't.
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Yay.Nobody cares.

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#40 PAL360
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Wait TC, did you say Gears 3 got 9.1 on MC and Forza 4 8.5 here? Very clever double standards!

I would say Gears 3 got 9.5 here and Forza 4 9.2 on MC :P

On topic, standards change and opinions vary. Gears 3 is two years younger and, in my opinion, one of the best exclusives on any system.

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you cant have a good game without the cole train baby WHOOOOO

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#42 PAL360
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Good points. Uncharted 2 is 6th in best scoring games of ALL time. I feel that's why U3 will flop here. Heil68

Early damage control, i see :P

Let´s be optimistic here. Uncharted 3 will most likelly be AAA on gamespot.

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#43 contracts420
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I think Uncharted 2 is the better game in my opinion, but so what if the game scored higher. IfGears 3 isa good game than it's a good game. People take scores too literally around here. Plus I am tired of the Uncharted vs Gears threads.

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I LOL when people act like a game getting a 91 score is horrible. Who cares if Unchated 2 got higher rated than Gears 3? Doesn't mean it's better or that Gears 3 is bad. This is all matter of opinion and personal taste.

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#45 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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i wish someone would make a similar game that objectively destroys uncharted and gears in every aspect, that way both sides would have to shut up lol
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="Lexter45"] Why do9 I have to be hired by an Industry respected Gaming Journalist site? Does having IGN on my review somehow increase its quality :?Lexter45

Yes it does actually. Especially considering Metacritic weighs each website in its system by how credible it is, and more larger sites have a higher weight on the overall score. IGN and Gamespot scores have a larger weight than smaller, lesser known sites. Not to mention, there is criteria you have to meet before you are even eligible to be calculated. You cant just put together a no name blog, and post it up there. There is criteria you have to meet, and they review your website.

Oh, and IGN is the largest gaming website on the internet btw, with Gamespot being the second.

And how does that affect the Quality of the review :? Because IGN is more well known than me? If Justin Bieber says Kinectimals is the best game ever does that make it true ?

No. Justin Bieber is not a game critic. If IGN or GS gives a game 9/10, they'll add that to the box or in ads, because those are industry respected outlets. If Justin Bieber, or Lexter 45, give a game 9/10, nobody cares, outside of Justing Bieber fanatics who want everything the Biebs likes, or Lexter 45.

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#47 g0ddyX
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i wish someone would make a similar game that objectively destroys uncharted and gears in every aspect, that way both sides would have to shut up lolTH1Sx1SxSPARTA


Vanquish? Thats a great game too.

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#48 Lexter45
Member since 2011 • 1204 Posts

[QUOTE="Lexter45"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] Yes it does actually. Especially considering Metacritic weighs each website in its system by how credible it is, and more larger sites have a higher weight on the overall score. IGN and Gamespot scores have a larger weight than smaller, lesser known sites. Not to mention, there is criteria you have to meet before you are even eligible to be calculated. You cant just put together a no name blog, and post it up there. There is criteria you have to meet, and they review your website.

Oh, and IGN is the largest gaming website on the internet btw, with Gamespot being the second.

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And how does that affect the Quality of the review :? Because IGN is more well known than me? If Justin Bieber says Kinectimals is the best game ever does that make it true ?

No. Justin Bieber is not a game critic. If IGN or GS gives a game 9/10, they'll add that to the box or in ads, because those are industry respected outlets. If Justin Bieber, or Lexter 45, give a game 9/10, nobody cares, outside of Justing Bieber fanatics who want everything the Biebs likes, or Lexter 45.

So IGN giving the game 9/10 means the game is definitly 9/10 no doubt no questions asked and no one can think differently? Because that's what this Convo is about.
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#49 XileLord
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If we arere talking average score and using Metacritic you'd be right, nothing has touched Uncharted 2 yet and I predict Uncharted 3 to score on average above 95 aswell. There's just no helping it, uncharted is arguably the best game series of this generation.

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#50 Harisemo
Member since 2010 • 4133 Posts

1. Gears 3 > UC2
2. Only GS scores count
3. No one said Gears 3 would be the best exclusive this gen.