so if I stand correct, this is 4D ?

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#1 whoody12
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for example

you have a TV

and all the space between and arround the 3D object, in this case a TV would be 4D ?

plz explain, its biting I want to know

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#2 GunSmith1_basic
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wtf are you talking about?

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#3 sdfsdaf
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Think of a 3D object, add time, and there you have it, 4D
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4D is nonsense.
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#5 O_Lineman17
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our world is 4D, 4D is something that ages over time. You can put day/night in a game, but that's not 4D. 4D is the flowers in a game are growing, the river erodes away the banks on either side of it, your character can grow beards over time as he gets older, buildings are decaying, food may mold. The 4th demension is the aging over time
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#6 the_leet_kid
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Castlevania 2 for NES was 4D.
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#8 cabjnico
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4D is NOT time. why do people keep saying this? Do some research please.
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#9 Kevanio
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some people who live on n4g.com saw an article about it and they instantly wrote it on here, theyre not gona do any research
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#10 KJAX90
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our world is 4D, 4D is something that ages over time. You can put day/night in a game, but that's not 4D. 4D is the flowers in a game are growing, the river erodes away the banks on either side of it, your character can grow beards over time as he gets older, buildings are decaying, food may mold. The 4th demension is the aging over timeO_Lineman17

I never knew that! :o Thanks for sharing that. :D

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#11 cabjnico
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some people who live on n4g.com saw an article about it and they instantly wrote it on here, theyre not gona do any researchKevanio

they have to know n4g is a game site

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#12 trasherhead
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4D is: How would a new house look like after 10 years of decay? It would look like a 10 year old house. Put that at a faster pace and you have 4D gaming with texture changing over time in real time.
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#13 whoody12
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thanks, it isnt that special then if you ask it to me

meh, PS3 marketing trick

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#14 cabjnico
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you never heard of tetraspace and a tesseract have you? When we talk about dimensions we talk about spatial dimensions. therefore time has nothing to do with it
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#15 wklzip
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This explains all the 10 dimensions:

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwrhO3-BN0&mode=related&search=

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#16 mutenpika
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So much misinterpretation! Time is the fourth dimensionof 3-Dimensional space. It's the fourth dimension of the third dimension. However, there is quite definitely a fourth SPATIAL dimension, which adds two directions. 3D has up, down, left, right, foreward, and backward. 4D adds ana and kata, two more spatial directions which are perpindicular to our 3-dimensional directions... all 6 of 'em.

A 4th dimensional cube has 8 sides, each of which is a 3rd Dimensionalcube.

4th dimensional objects can only be observed as cross-sections to us. Let's look at the 2nd dimension. Now, the 2nd dimension is flat, as we know. So it can only really observe any 3-D object through a cross-section. Say the 2nd dimension was the surface of a pool of water (solely for imagery's sake). The only space that exists in 2D would be on the very surface of the pool.

As you put your hand in the pool, only the area that was directly flush with the surface of the water would be observable to the 2D world. It would appear first as 5 distinct cirlces (as you put your fingers in), then a long, oblong shape (your palm).

Our observations of the 4th dimension are like that, too, but 1 dimension higher. We can only really visualize or see cross sections or unfoldings of4th dimensional stuff.

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#17 cabjnico
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This explains all the 10 dimensions:

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwrhO3-BN0&mode=related&search=

wklzip

it then again mixes space and time together

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VareiRkDBLM

mutenpika knows what he's saying

in the end sony is using the misconception of "time" as the fourth dimension for marketing purposes... attacting people by saying they can render "4d graphics"

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So much misinterpretation! Time is the fourth dimensionof 3-Dimensional space. It's the fourth dimension of the third dimension. However, there is quite definitely a fourth SPATIAL dimension, which adds two directions. 3D has up, down, left, right, foreward, and backward. 4D adds ana and kata, two more spatial directions which are perpindicular to our 3-dimensional directions... all 6 of 'em.

A 4th dimensional cube has 8 sides, each of which is a 3rd Dimensionalcube.

4th dimensional objects can only be observed as cross-sections to us. Let's look at the 2nd dimension. Now, the 2nd dimension is flat, as we know. So it can only really observe any 3-D object through a cross-section. Say the 2nd dimension was the surface of a pool of water (solely for imagery's sake). The only space that exists in 2D would be on the very surface of the pool.

As you put your hand in the pool, only the area that was directly flush with the surface of the water would be observable to the 2D world. It would appear first as 5 distinct cirlces (as you put your fingers in), then a long, oblong shape (your palm).

Our observations of the 4th dimension are like that, too, but 1 dimension higher. We can only really visualize or see cross sections or unfoldings of4th dimensional stuff.

mutenpika

nice explanation

we can't actually visualise instances of 4D.....we can only see what are like "cross-sections" of 4D instances.

for example, we have a 3D figure shown on a graph with an x,y and z axis. say we take cross sections of this object on the x,y axis. each 2D cross sectional figure are what instances of the 3rd dimension look like.

now if we have a 4D object - we can't actually see all 4 dimensions shown at once. what we can see are instances of the 4th dimension, which will all look like 3d figures. for every instance of the 4th dimension, we can visual a 3D figure that represents it.

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#19 leejohnson7
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I think the more important question you need to ask yourself is whether it matters on system wars.
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#20 -The-G-Man-
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DOAX2 is the only 4-D game in existence.
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#21 wklzip
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I think the more important question you need to ask yourself is whether it matters on system wars.leejohnson7

logic in SW is always rejected.

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#22 cabjnico
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[QUOTE="leejohnson7"]I think the more important question you need to ask yourself is whether it matters on system wars.wklzip

logic in SW is always rejected.

the one and only reason it matters here is because of the "ps3 rendering 4D" nonsense

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#23 Gamingcucumber
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4D isn't exactly a sequel to 3D which most people seems to believe.

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#24 Arnalion
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Many wrong answers. No one really even knows if their is a fourth dimension, but some people have suggested time as the fourth dimension.

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[img=http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/305/200pxchangingcubeah0.th.gif]] The Tesseract is supposed to be a 4D object . . .
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#26 Vylence
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So much misinterpretation! Time is the fourth dimensionof 3-Dimensional space. It's the fourth dimension of the third dimension. However, there is quite definitely a fourth SPATIAL dimension, which adds two directions. 3D has up, down, left, right, foreward, and backward. 4D adds ana and kata, two more spatial directions which are perpindicular to our 3-dimensional directions... all 6 of 'em.

A 4th dimensional cube has 8 sides, each of which is a 3rd Dimensionalcube.

4th dimensional objects can only be observed as cross-sections to us. Let's look at the 2nd dimension. Now, the 2nd dimension is flat, as we know. So it can only really observe any 3-D object through a cross-section. Say the 2nd dimension was the surface of a pool of water (solely for imagery's sake). The only space that exists in 2D would be on the very surface of the pool.

As you put your hand in the pool, only the area that was directly flush with the surface of the water would be observable to the 2D world. It would appear first as 5 distinct cirlces (as you put your fingers in), then a long, oblong shape (your palm).

Our observations of the 4th dimension are like that, too, but 1 dimension higher. We can only really visualize or see cross sections or unfoldings of4th dimensional stuff.

mutenpika

You are wrong if time was another dimension, we would be able to travel along its axis in either direction. Einstein himself proved this to be wrong. Time as the 4th dimension is just a popular myth. Yes computers can theorize any number of dimensions, that does not mean they exist.

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#27 linkhero1
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our world is 4D, 4D is something that ages over time. You can put day/night in a game, but that's not 4D. 4D is the flowers in a game are growing, the river erodes away the banks on either side of it, your character can grow beards over time as he gets older, buildings are decaying, food may mold. The 4th demension is the aging over timeO_Lineman17
Like in Animal Crossing for DS.
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#28 SemiMaster
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The 4th Dimension = Time.

And according to Quantum Mechanics there are 11 dimensions total in the Grand Unified Theory.

No, I am not making this up.

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[QUOTE="wklzip"]

This explains all the 10 dimensions:

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmwrhO3-BN0&mode=related&search=

cabjnico

it then again mixes space and time together

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VareiRkDBLM

mutenpika knows what he's saying

in the end sony is using the misconception of "time" as the fourth dimension for marketing purposes... attacting people by saying they can render "4d graphics"

Don´t make them sound evil, it´s a really cool idea, don´t tell me you don´t find it interesting.