Slimmer Xbone just Around the Corner

Smaller, cheaper, cooler Xbox One processor in development

Chip designer AMD has developed a smaller, more cost-effective 20nm version of the main processor found in Xbox One, opening the door to a cheaper 'slim' version of the Microsoft console. The news comes from the LinkedIn bio of AMD's senior manager of SOC (system on chip) physical design, as discovered by Mosen from the Beyond3D forums. The entry in question says he "successfully planned and executed the first APU for Microsoft's Xbox One Game Console in 28nm technology and a cost-reduced derivative in 20nm technology."

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It's worth pointing out that while there's been no official acknowledgement of a 20nm version of the PS4's main processor, it's almost certain AMD will have carried out the same work for Sony as it has for Microsoft. A PS4 Slim is just as inevitable as a downscaled, cheaper Xbox One, but we should only expect to see them hit the production lines when the financials make sense. Microsoft is staying silent, declining to comment on the cost-reduced processor.

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Let me guess, eliminates the HDMi input? Actually, the article is highly speculative. A process drop doesn't necessarily mean there will be a new SKU. It will just run cooler.

It's still trash, just slimmer trash.

We'll see revisions with all hardware as the gen progresses.

It'll be holiday 2016 at the earliest we'll see a slimed PS4/XBO.

but the faster the better.

That's true and it doesn't mean there's any Slim models coming anytime soon. Just means the XB1 and PS4 will be more profitable once the changes have been made. Probably won't see a permanent price cut until next year sometime.

You must be mistaking Microsoft for Sony, since it is Sony that removes features on each revision, while Microsoft adds features.

Is that what the kinectless SKU is? Adding features?

Dat Sony PS3 strategy. You can't sell enough consoles then redesign, redesign, redesign. This way your existing users that are dumb enough will rebuy the same console.

The Xbone is fat.

You're wrong. Totally Wrong. Oopsie

I would be very surprised if it gets a revision any time soon.

i expected it would. The xbox is too huge for no reason and they can make it cheaper.

the 360 and PS3 both had two slim models each last gen.

i expect both xbox and ps4 to have a slim and a super slim models as well.

It's inevitable that both consoles will see a slimmer/cheaper version. No big deal.

I have no doubt it will get a revision but I dont expect it to hit any time soon. Maybe two more years at least. But thinking about it now next year it will have two years on the market, I guess an E3 reveal an fall launch is possible.

nah see consistently removing ports is sony's bag, yeah Microsoft does it when its smart, sony on the other hand adds every thing says how amazing all the ports will be when used *which is never*, then just like the ps1, ps2, and ps3 removes them and slashes the cost when they could have just kept them out and kept the system cheap because of it at the start.

Edit: please don't come back with your unsurprising idiotic reply of bubububbubububbububub kinect, Its a known gaming fact that sony had loads of unused ports and abilities on all past 3 consoles which they then removed.

And just like that... He abandoned the thread.

slim trash but at least the online works.

So still exactly the same thing but a bit smaller...

Hooray?

Boom Goes The Dynamite :P

well M$ has to get the price down and they are also trying to change the image of the XBOX.

Phill said he wanted to get rid of the "Bro dude" XBOX gamer image. (Yet the Sunset Overdrive commercial is the epitome of that bro dude personality. And then they have at Target an XBOX ONE- DORITOS and MOUNTAIN DEW Bundle right now lol).

So since M$ needs to re-image the XBOX brand perception, a new model can certainly help and should be done actually. I would be surprise if they take more than Q3-Q4 2015 to release it.

And has decent games...

If a slimmer version is happening, then'd i'd give it close to another year and a bit.

Your topic title is misleading. Change it.

Are they going to fix the party chat thing for xbox 1? Seems to be a major complaint.

PS4 Slim is probably a long ways off, I'd imagine. Obviously, the PS4 is already fairly small and lightweight (6.17 lbs, less than the PS3 Slim) to begin with. It can be used in both the vertical and horizontal positions, plus the current hardware is selling very well. The PS2 Slim launched after a little over 4 years and the PS3 Slim launched in less than 3 years; the PS3 Slim, though, was a desperate attempt to improve sales and rebrand, neither of which are major issues for Sony right now. I expect the PS4's improvements to be subtle, like the 360s were until 2010.

Xbox One will almost certainly get a complete redesign much sooner, given its large, boxy, and aesthetically unimpressive exterior. The giant power brick doesn't help, and it's the only modern day console that can't be used vertically. A redesign should be able to fix all that (probably at the expense of the HDMI in port), as well as give the Xbox One a bolt of energy that it'll need against the PS4. The only question is timing... 2016 sounds about right, but 2015 isn't impossible if Phil Spencer wants to shake things up next year with a $299 Xbox One Slim.

@charizard1605: Not with that tone.

Momma Charizard didn't raise her no demanding Debbie.

Is it 2006 yet?

Why would anyone be interested in a smaller xboner?

The Xbox 360 went through 4 different motherboards and chipsets before we even got a Slim, the system started out with the Xenon, the Zephyr, the Falcon, then the Jasper, the Slim was the 5th design /4th revision which used the Trinity, and the last design in the S models used the Corona. Still, maybe they will try making it a bit smaller since when it launched people knocked it for being bulky and big compared to the PS4, I haven't so much as heard anything like that though for quite a while.

Slimmer waste of money

So what will come first: an Xbone that doesn't look like a Betamax player or games for it?

This is standard with the evolution of hardware processing; it does not allude to a new slimmer SKU.

Thanks, Robert.

Seriously, though, you poor louts just had to wait a year for another exclusive. You've got Halo ports coming up and then what? Quantum Break next September? It's unbelievable.

While possible to make a slimmer version, that's not why the X1 is so big. It's an overkill design after the RROD issue last gen. MS could make a slim version now if they wanted.

Getting games throughout the year >>> getting games through a period of ten weeks at the end of the year.

20nm is too tiny and will make it really hard to even find the console.

Ps4 slim? hah Ps4 is already slim.

Xbox need it sure, lol

Its a shame why would we want a slim Xbox one but no games outside two forza and dead rising 3 ya its need games first same for ps4

A slim would be nice. The XBox One right now is a f*cking house.

do you truly believe that neither console will ever have great games? lol

Dude, games take time to make! It's not like game devs put a bunch of ideas on paper and the games suddenly appear like magic you know. Many are still optimizing the engines or creating new ones. Other are creating assets from scratch too, and remember these assets have to be of greater quality than before, thus you need more artists and stuff.

Those working on shrinking the hardware, that is their job. So what is the problem? The cheaper the HW the better. More people buy it making Triple A publishers more willing to create more games and faster.

20nm chip is a ways away