Realistically, how powerful will the Wii U's successor be?

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#51 l34052
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MS were very annoyed the bone wasnt as powerful as the ps4 this gen and wont have that again so their next console will be a super console with everything they've got thrown at it making it hard for Nintendo to compete against that kind of money.

Personally id like to see a powerful nintendo console again though, the last nintendo i owned and enjoyed was the N64 which had some awsome multiplayer games on it and it would be cool to enjoy that again.

All that said, i think its way too early to even be thinkin bout new consoles when the current gen is less than a year old.

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#52 PurpleMan5000
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@scottpsfan14 said:
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Hopefully it will be a slight upgrade from the Wii U, but it will be a handheld/console hybrid and it will be glorious.

No man. Stop with that shit. A proper console is what they need. What you described will fail harder than the Wii U!

I don't own Nintendo stock, so that doesn't really bother me. I would just like to play their games without having to pay an outrageous price for the console, considering that there are only going to be a handful of games I want each year. It would be amazing to not have to also buy their handheld as well.

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#53  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@ps4hasnogames: it's a great game , never said that it wasn't. And yes it looks great to. But it's not on the PS4s level graphically.

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#54  Edited By M8ingSeezun
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@emgesp said:

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A generation behind, like always

NES, SNES, N64 and Gamecube were not a generation behind.

Not a generation behind, but certainly, Nintendo systems have been 1up by the competition:

  1. Sega Master System > NES
  2. NEO GEO > Snes > Genesis > TG16
  3. Xbox > Gamecube > PS2 > Dreamcast

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#55 YearoftheSnake5
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Realistically, we don't know. They could ditch the PowerPC based architecture in favor of something more powerful that can work better for a balance between horsepower and cost. If they were to go with a quad core Power7, complete with all the threads it would usually have, that alone would smash the CPUs inside the PS4 and XBO. They could try for that, keep the PowerPC base, go with an x86 chip, or something completely off the wall. This is Nintendo, we're talking about. When it comes to their core franchises, we know what to expect. With hardware, it's the opposite.

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#56 Telekill
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I don't care how powerful it is. If they keep motion controls as their primary control method, I won't be buying it.

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#57  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Minimum - 2+ TF gpu with 12 - 16 gb of ram, 8 core cpu.

Max - 5 teraflop gpu with 32gb of ram, 8 core cpu (a better one).

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#58 blackace
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@emgesp: I don't really care at this point. If they killed the Wii U and released a new consoles that supported all the Wii U games, but was more powerful then PS4/XB1 it would send a statment and maybe more gamers and 3rd party developers would support them. As it stands right now, I give the Wii U may exit this generation early. I see it lasting maybe another 2 years. Thanksfully there are enough games coming out for it next year to make it worth a purchase. There are about 15 games on the Wii U that I want. If they could get the system down to $250 or less before the holiday, they might see a nice surge in sales.

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#59 NFJSupreme
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If Nintendo is smart it will be up to par with the the competition

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#60  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@NFJSupreme said:

If Nintendo is smart it will be up to par with the the competition

I don't think that will happen if you are talking about the PS5 and next xbox. I think there next console will be a bit stronger than the ps4 most likely if they can afford to get components that beat the ps4 at a cheap price.

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#61 osan0
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very very difficult to call.

the one thing they can't do is try and make a console like the Ps4/X1 or PS5/X2. if they do that then it will be an even swifter kicking than they are getting this gen. a small company like nintendo cant directly compete with juggernauts. the only chance that has to work is if nintendo take a very game focused approach AND the market is tired of jack of all trade boxes and services (which seems unlikely). the hardware is the easy part. its the software and services and so on where nintendo will be absolutely slaughtered. even if nintendo deliver the hardware....why pick up the wii3 version of a game over another version?

so the horsepower has to be good enough to support whatever other USP they try.

if its an oculus rift type setup (just speculating here...i dont think it will be that) then the console will have to be pretty powerful to do it properly (a minimum of 2 screens at 1080P. with screens that close the res has to be high and driving graphics around the X1s best.). in 2016-2017 the hardware needed to drive two 1080P displays in games should be pretty reasonably priced. can they do that and the headset for around 350 quid though? could be a squeez.

i dont think itll be an X86/AMD based console though but rather an ARM/nvidia based console. the change will make development within nintendo far more efficent as their next handheld (which i also think will be ARM/nvidia) would basically be using the same hardware. just the console would be using far more powerful versions of the hardware. nintendo already have a lot of experience with ARM processors and a lot of what they have learned from the wiiu on the GPU side can still be applied to an Nvidia GPU.

i dont think the next console will be the console/handheld hybrid idea. its just too risky. they would be putting all their money in one basket essentially. the demands of a console and the demands of a handheld can also confilct quite badly. they might release a 3rd line of products that are essentially proper 10" gaming tablets that can connect to TVs....maybe. but it wouldnt be released instead of a handheld or console.

but yeah...very hard to call. it depends on what nintendos developers want and what price point they are going for.

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#62 MirkoS77
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Nintendo doesn't have the proper third party support to put out great hardware. It would be suicide. Nintendo will Nintendo.....we'll see what they'll do will be best for their needs with everything else a secondary consideration. Nintendo's cornered themselves so badly through the way they conduct business that they really have no choice but to make cheaper hardware now. I wouldn't expect anything more.

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#63 silversix_
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Reaching potato power of Xbone + 2 additional percents that will never be used because third party (the main devs that push graphical envelope) doesn't give a flying crap about Nintendo and Nintendo themselves create nothing else but colorful games that could run on a GC.

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#64 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Hopefully they go back to carts. Much better.

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#65 xxyetixx
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I would like to see nintendo take a "risk" and just release a powerful system no gimmicks, nice controller like their xbox style controller they have for the WiiU, get a good online service going and be what Nintendo should be.

If they want the nostalgia crowd just name it the Super Nintendo II

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@emgesp said:

@cainetao11 said:

@emgesp said:

@cainetao11 said:

@emgesp said:

@cainetao11:

Compared to the PS3/360. I don't care what Nintendo says, Sony and Microsoft is their competition.

So its subjective to individual opinion then? Then my PC, which SHITS on PS4 and X1 is worth talking about in a forum called System Wars?

What does the PC have to do with the Wii U?

What do last gen consoles have to do with a current gen console then?

The fact that the Wii U is closer in power to last gen consoles than the XB1/PS4.

Since when does power dictate gens?

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#67 rabakill
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it doesn't even matter, they are the best at optimizing their graphics. The Zelda WiiU demos are the most gorgeous graphics I've ever seen so whatever. It could be ps4 power for all I care, they make the best quality games out there. Hopefully now that they've crossed over the threshold they can make truly open world games with famous Nintendo gameplay and tight controls.

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#68 cainetao11
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@rabakill said:

it doesn't even matter, they are the best at optimizing their graphics. The Zelda WiiU demos are the most gorgeous graphics I've ever seen so whatever. It could be ps4 power for all I care, they make the best quality games out there. Hopefully now that they've crossed over the threshold they can make truly open world games with famous Nintendo gameplay and tight controls.

Well said. I really loved the look of that Zelda U trailer. Are there more impressive games technically? Sure, but imo games have reached a point where the beauty is in the eye of the beholder and a game doesn't need to look photo realistic to be beautiful.

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#69 Phreek300
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Geez....hard to call. I'ed say low end is 8 core PowerPC, 8GB memory with unified architecture, Radeon 290X level GPU, and 1TB HDD. Higher end a straight 16 core or 8 core with 8 threads, 12-16G

B of DDR 4, a custom higher end GPU, and 2TB HDD. As far as art direction. It can make a HUGE difference in appeal and immersion. Some games on the WiiU.

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@cainetao11 said:

@emgesp said:

@cainetao11 said:

@emgesp said:

@cainetao11 said:

@emgesp said:

@cainetao11:

Compared to the PS3/360. I don't care what Nintendo says, Sony and Microsoft is their competition.

So its subjective to individual opinion then? Then my PC, which SHITS on PS4 and X1 is worth talking about in a forum called System Wars?

What does the PC have to do with the Wii U?

What do last gen consoles have to do with a current gen console then?

The fact that the Wii U is closer in power to last gen consoles than the XB1/PS4.

Since when does power dictate gens?

PS4 says hello.

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@Heirren said:

Hopefully they go back to carts. Much better.

Third party devs: Lol No.

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@Telekill said:

I don't care how powerful it is. If they keep motion controls as their primary control method, I won't be buying it.

Which isn't the case for Wii U.

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#73 AsadMahdi59
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I think it should be a significant step up from the current generation, but there is no chance that it will match the PlayStation five or next Xbox. Also think Nintendo should shoot for two years before the competition.

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#74 Heil68
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Probably just short of what Xbone and PS4 is now.

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@emgesp said:

@cainetao11 said:

@emgesp said:

@cainetao11 said:

@emgesp said:

@cainetao11 said:

@emgesp said:

@cainetao11:

Compared to the PS3/360. I don't care what Nintendo says, Sony and Microsoft is their competition.

So its subjective to individual opinion then? Then my PC, which SHITS on PS4 and X1 is worth talking about in a forum called System Wars?

What does the PC have to do with the Wii U?

What do last gen consoles have to do with a current gen console then?

The fact that the Wii U is closer in power to last gen consoles than the XB1/PS4.

Since when does power dictate gens?

PS4 says hello.

Strange because mine cant say a word. Oh I see you are pulling new and un heard of rules from your anus. Wash up before dinner and have fun.

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#76 Shawty_Beatz
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I doubt that there will be a real Wii U successor.

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#77  Edited By Coolyfett
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@sailor232 said:

I hope they combine their home console with a handheld, I will not buy another Nintendo console anymore, I've given them enough of my money for the crap they pull.

They should do exactly that. Make a handheld that can play games on an HD TV.