PS4 owners need to understand what the definition of a MOVIE game is..

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Poll PS4 owners need to understand what the definition of a MOVIE game is.. (30 votes)

Yes, that makes sense. People make it sound more complected when they create artificial requirements. 37%
No. It only applies to Sony games! All other games using cinematics to tell a game's story ala RDR, TW3, Quantum Break, ass creed origins, Gears of War ect are free from that label. 63%

...so you don't become a victim of circular arguments with goal post moving targets.

MOVIE GAME:

"Any game that uses cinematic cut-scenes or in game movies to tell a video game's story to the player."

THAT'S IT!

I see a lot of arguments where people make up rules to fit their platform or personal game or choice using mental gymnastics and spinning tactics to avoid their games getting labeled "movie games" because of the negative stigma it holds.

But all the flip flopping and changing of definitions each argument looks dumb.

It's pretty simple...

Things that DON'T have anything to do with being a "movie game":

  • Game length - that would make Super Mario Bros a movie game, FAIL
  • Game genre - cinematics and videos are the ONLY constants for movies.
  • Gameplay type - If you're controlling the action..that's GAMEPLAY.
  • Intro and ending - movies in these sections don't apply in game.
  • Narration through text - If game's story is told through reading.
  • Graphics - I guess PC players would love movie games? #Star Citizen.

Things that MIGHT signify a "movie game" are:

  • loosing control of the action for a "movie" to play out in game.
  • Multiple* In game cutscenes that play out longer than 2 or 3 minutes.
  • Attempt to create a cinematic experience NOT using gameplay or text.
  • Using anything other than game engine or still frames for cut-scenes.
  • Cinematic cut-scenes that fall completely outside of game world.
  • Cut-scenes that are not directly tied to gameplay.

If a game includes 3 or more of the above ^ it likely is.

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That being said,

TRUE Examples of NON-MOVIE games:

  1. Tetris
  2. Super Mario Bros NES
  3. Torment tides of Numenera
  4. Oxenfree
  5. Salt and Sanctuary
  6. Journey
  7. Cuphead
  8. Ori and the Blind forest
  9. Darkest Dungeon
  10. Resogun

It's honestly slim pickings outside of indies, but at least you'll be able to tell when the term "movie game" is used vs another game how to handle it.

So yes, PS4 owners, a large amount of your AAA titles are movie games...much like the rest of the industry, only difference is the majority of PS4s are successful.

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#1 SwaggedOutSquirtle
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Thanks I’ve always wanted to know what a movie game was! Now I know :)

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#2  Edited By Shewgenja
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Maybe you need to understand that your incessant bitching about "movie games" went down the toilet when games made the move to compact disk generations ago.

Fmv and in-game narrative moved gaming forward. Clearly, being a direction the Xbox fanbase hates if the endless BC threads and other points of contention raised by them are anything to go by. **** off.

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#3 Ant_17
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Lol, a defence thread.

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#4  Edited By Phreek300
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Who cares....Are the games good or not? That is all that matters. Definitions do not. That goes for any platform or system.

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#5 UNcartMe
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I thought a movie game was more like Heavy Rain? People who say games like GOW is a movie game are just salty.

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#6 Shewgenja
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Final Fantasy VII blew the roof off of the gaming industry in the 90s. Please consider this before disparaging a game for having production value and narrative.

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#7 Pcmasterrace69
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If you like a game play it

If you dislike a game dont play it

simple

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#8 Ant_17
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@Shewgenja said:

Final Fantasy VII blew the roof off of the gaming industry in the 90s. Please consider this before disparaging a game for having production value and narrative.

Nah, just turn on subtitles and your movie game is not a movie game anymore

Things that DON'T have anything to do with being a "movie game":

  • Game length - that would make Super Mario Bros a movie game, FAIL
  • Game genre - cinematics and videos are the ONLY constants for movies.
  • Gameplay type - If you're controlling the action..that's GAMEPLAY.
  • Intro and ending - movies in these sections don't apply in game.
  • Narration through text - If game's story is told through reading.
  • Graphics - I guess PC players would love movie games? #Star Citizen.
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There's no such thing as a movie game, this term is only by lems and hermits envious for not having access to ps4 exclusives

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#10 Calvincfb
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@Phreek300: heavy rain is a point and click game.

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#11 DrLostRib
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This movie game thing's really got TCs knickers in a twist

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#12 KBFloYd
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almost.

but cutscenes have to be longer/more of them than in other games.

if its gameplay 90% and 10% cutscenes then fine.

if its 70% gameplay and 30% cutscenes/cinematic walking then its a movie game.

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#13 KBFloYd
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when the story is more important than the gameplay

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A movie game: Any PS4 exclusive a jealous-ass Xbox fan has to watch on Youtube because they're too much of a corporate slave to buy another console.

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#15  Edited By QuadKnight
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So what you’re saying OP is that Sony’s games are no different from any other AAA games in the industry with high production values and cutscenes, the only difference is that they are exclusive and successful, and as a result make fanboys butthurt and call them “movie games”?

? Gotcha. It all makes sense now. I’ll continue to drink their tears as Sony’s “movie games” continue to clean house.

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#16 deactivated-5fd4737f5f083
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Ok and why do so many people use it as an insult to a game?

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#17 jeezers
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quick time events, combat that is apart of a cinematic. Any game that focuses more on the story/cutscenes, quick time events rather than just letting you run through the game without constant interruptions to explore for yourself is imo a movie game.

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#18  Edited By Zaryia
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You know when there are 4 very similar threads up on the front page trying to defend this genre that there is something wrong.

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#19 Pedro
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Any game that routinely takes control away from the player to further the story is a movie game. Couple this mechanic with force walk sections in which the player has to simply push forward makes these games worse than unskippable cutscenes.

These games simply suck.

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#20 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Lems trying to act like Gears isn’t a movie game franchise...

Gears = movie games

Ryse = movie game

Quantum Break = movie game (with a TV show)

Thankfully Nintendo is interested in making video games still. Everybody else is pushing for 1440p-1800p dynamic resolution, 30fps interactive movies. No thanks!

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#21 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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Dem insecures.

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#22 VFighter
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Lol, tc doesn't have a clue what a movie game is lol. The minute I see that term ised I know it's a clueless fanboy/troll.

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#23 Calvincfb
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@Pedro: so all RPG are movie games? Good to know final fantasy games are movie games since the NES.

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#24 Calvincfb
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@jeezers: so RPGs are movie games to you...

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#25 henrythefifth
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All Halo games are definitely movie games, since the movie clips are the best part, and the rest is just repetitive tunnel running.

Ryse is also a movie game. albeit not a very good one...

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#26 Pedro
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@calvincfb said:

@Pedro: so all RPG are movie games? Good to know final fantasy games are movie games since the NES.

Only a fool would draw such a conclusion. Try not being a fool.

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#27 hrt_rulz01
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Ok then.

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#28 Zero_epyon
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So movie games include:

Alan Wake

Quantum Break

Halo

Halo Wars

Gears of War

Ryse

Forza Horizon

Dead Rising 3

....

The point is, this is a terrible thread...

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#29 freedomfreak
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It's like the same 2 threads on the front page.

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#30 jeezers
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@calvincfb: Turn based strategies can feel like movie games but thats a genre where its not live action anyway, its supposed to feel like a movie, you can walk away mid battle come back 2 hours later without pausing and your good. Games like heavy rain are definently movie games. Last of us feels like a movie game some times and an action game sometimes, that ones more mixed at least.

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#31  Edited By deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Yesterday I was playing GoW, I'm really liking the game. At some point I was exploring but the game decided NO, some combat was supposed to take place and without warning my character started walking to a different direction for 50m or so. This is nothing terrible but I do hate this Sony design philosophy that takes agency from the gamer. And what made me feel even worst about it was thinking that if I just took the expected path I wouldn't be controlling the character without being aware.

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#32 DerekLoffin
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So, in other words, it is a useless designation. Gotcha. Thanks for the info. I will continue to ignore it as a valid critique with this new knowledge in mind.

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#33 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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Guess even BOTW is a movie too. More or less the whole X1 library too.

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#34  Edited By NoodleFighter
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@jeezers said:

@calvincfb: Turn based strategies can feel like movie games but thats a genre where its not live action anyway, its supposed to feel like a movie, you can walk away mid battle come back 2 hours later without pausing and your good. Games like heavy rain are definently movie games. Last of us feels like a movie game some times and an action game sometimes, that ones more mixed at least.

StarCraft 2 has over 2 hours worth of cutscenes, 7+ hours if you include Legacy Of The Void and Heart Of The Swarm expansions but I don't here anyone call that a movie game because it is has a much more significant focus on gameplay.

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#35 DocSanchez
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The movie game meme needs to die. It's embarrassing for anyone using it.

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#36 VFighter
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So wait, this means Ninja Gadien on the nes is the first movie game, sweet!!!

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#37  Edited By UItravioIence
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Damn. I never thought the salt level would get this high. Lems are truly out of their minds.

You know what they say though. Lems dont love their system, they just hate PS4.

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#38  Edited By Kali-B1rd
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PS4 owners are just bitters because Sony make the same few samey styled exclusives that the majority of the community find to be a shallow weekend rental at best.

They will go on shelf collecting dust or end up in CEX a week later. To be used as pointless ammunition on a dying forum on a dying website with dying out of touch critics.

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#39  Edited By tgob89
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@kali-b1rd said:

PS4 owners are just bitters because Sony make the same few samey styled exclusives that the majority of the community find to be a shallow weekend rental at best.

They will go on shelf collecting dust or end up in CEX a week later. To be used as pointless ammunition on a dying forum on a dying website with dying irrelevant critics.

Hmm....

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#40 Kali-B1rd
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@tgob89 said:

Hmm....

Sometimes the Truth is cold!

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#41 NoodleFighter
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@DocSanchez said:

The movie game meme needs to die. It's embarrassing for anyone using it.

Well Sony started it!!!

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#42 Ten_Pints
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So Command and Conqueror series are movie games... OK then.

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@Zero_epyon said:

So movie games include:

Alan Wake

Quantum Break

Halo

Halo Wars

Gears of War

Ryse

Forza Horizon

Dead Rising 3

....

The point is, this is a terrible thread...

The series did get sued by Romero.

And lets just rename the racing genre to Top Gear.

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#44 Calvincfb
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@jeezers: you made no sense at all. But ok, movie game argument is as retarded as you

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#45 xantufrog  Moderator
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God damn, and the buzzword of the year is...

This is why this place is dying - every time you log in you immediately get hit with a nauseating wave of deja vu.

inb4 someone calls me "butthurt" for some random reason

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#46  Edited By Kali-B1rd
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@calvincfb said:

@jeezers: you made no sense at all. But ok, movie game argument is as retarded as you

You have to ask yourself - "Why has the "movie game" argument gained so much traction?"

Maybe movie game is the wrong word.

I would prefer to call them "Weekend Blockbuster Rentals" ... oo shiny, then move on.

Gaming is so much bigger than this.

Let me know when Sony branches out, and makes some truly ground-breaking games with the same level of production values.... then I will praise them.

Until then.

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#47 gfxpipeline
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@kali-b1rd said:
@calvincfb said:

@jeezers: you made no sense at all. But ok, movie game argument is as retarded as you

You have to ask yourself - "Why has the "movie game" argument gained so much traction?"

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#48 Calvincfb
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@kali-b1rd: well, salty and butthurt lems and PC elitists crying over not having any good exclusives made the term rise.

That's about it.

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#49 Kali-B1rd
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@calvincfb said:

@kali-b1rd: well, salty and butthurt lems and PC elitists crying over not having any good exclusives made the term rise.

That's about it.

Are you sure? or is that what just makes you feel better?

Are you not able to conceive the possibility that many gamers out there don't find short action blockbusters interesting? and for the most part makes Sony' 1st party studios very limited?

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#50 Calvincfb
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@kali-b1rd: yeah, I'm sure.