President Obama Disses Videogame Consoles (LINK)

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"And meanwhile, you're coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don't always rank that high on the truth meter. And with iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations — none of which I know how to work — information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation. So all of this is not only putting pressure on you; it's putting new pressure on our country and on our democracy."

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So he calls Playstaion's and xboxes a "Distraction"..

Thoughts? :?

New Counter Strike Game? by Rawksteadi.

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#2 Sp4rtan_3
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Obama = Communist, Socialist that wants to take our Guns and Videogames :x!!!!!
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#3 pitty8982
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he's right and is referring to all those people with no grey matter whatsoever that spends their time playing games for hours and hours every single day, instead of focusing on more important things. no wonder then that you have children that don't know where the Eiffel Tower is.

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#4 Zoso-8
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How do Xbox's and Playstation's give information? I thought they were video game consoles. He should check his own truth meter.
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#5 Willy105
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He leaves out the Wii, since he has one. Wii FANBOY CONFIRMED?
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#6 skektek
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He's right.

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#7 Willy105
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How do Xbox's and Playstation's give information? I thought they were video game consoles. He should check his own truth meter.Zoso-8
You didn't know the 360 and PS3 could connect to the internet?
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#8 Chutebox
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My absolute hate for Obama couldn't get any worse than it already was, so this does nothing for me.

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#9 skektek
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How do Xbox's and Playstation's give information? I thought they were video game consoles. He should check his own truth meter.Zoso-8

What do you think the sound and images coming out of your TV are?

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#10 LordRork
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He's right, up to a point. There's nothing inherently wrong with gaming (I guess he's a PC gamer :P ), but some people do allow it to suck up their time instead of doing something for the purpose of self-improvement.

Many kids these days (which sounds terribly "wave a stick while screaming 'Back in my day!'") do expect entertainment rather than education. There can be a depressingly low boredom threshold - if it's not now, it's never.

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#11 Metroid_Other_M
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he's right, our society is full of bugs. he mentioned the consoles and ipods because those are popular products, but his reasoning is way wider than "bashing consoles". I totally agree with his statement.

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[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]How do Xbox's and Playstation's give information? I thought they were video game consoles. He should check his own truth meter.skektek

What do you think the sound and images coming out of your TV are?

You might as well say sports are a distraction, TV is a distraction, movies are a distraction..etc
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Obama = Communist, Socialist that wants to take our Guns and Videogames :x!!!!!Sp4rtan_3
You know, the guns part isn't that bad of a thing to take away...
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#14 tagyhag
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As much as I love gaming, I would be getting so much stuff done if I had a simpler hobby. :P
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#15 spence1988
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another form of socialist control at its finest
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#16 skektek
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He's right, up to a point. There's nothing inherently wrong with gaming (I guess he's a PC gamer :P ), but some people do allow it to suck up their time instead of doing something for the purpose of self-improvement.

Many kids these days (which sounds terribly "wave a stick while screaming 'Back in my day!'") do expect entertainment rather than education. There can be a depressingly low boredom threshold - if it's not now, it's never.

LordRork

It's all about moderation.

Wanna get high? More power to ya, but don't do it all the time.

Wanna get drunk? Rock on, but don't do it all the time.

Wanna play games? Fine, but don't do it all the time.

Wanna read a book? Go ahead, but don't do it all the time.

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Obama = Communist, Socialist that wants to take our Guns and Videogames :x!!!!!_Pedro_
You know, the guns part isn't that bad of a thing to take away...

But we need our gunz 4 wen da president decides to enact his Communist manifesto !!! taking away our liberty!!
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Obama = Communist, Socialist that wants to take our Guns and Videogames :x!!!!!_Pedro_
You know, the guns part isn't that bad of a thing to take away...

Yup, let the criminals be the only one with guns!
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Nice Obama. Give me more reasons to dislike you.
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Obama = Communist, Socialist that wants to take our Guns and Videogames :x!!!!!Chutebox
You know, the guns part isn't that bad of a thing to take away...

Yup, let the criminals be the only one with guns!

You know, here in my country neither have guns... The only ones with guns are the police.
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iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations - none of which I know how to work

forza420

This is the part that puzzles me.

Is that supposed to make him endearing to old people who hate technology?

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Obama = Communist, Socialist that wants to take our Guns and Videogames :x!!!!!Sp4rtan_3
I hope you are kidding. For one thing, he has actually expanded the rights of gun owners so they can now carry concealed weapons in state parks. For another, his so called 'socialist' policies are actually more conservative than the policies of formerly beloved conservative presidents like Ike. But yeah, he needs to stop trash talking games. What about the Wii he bought for his daughters?
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#23 bloodcord
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Did he not know the power of teh cElL? IT does FOLDING AT HOME its the single greatest thing a console can try and do.(mind you I said TRY,not truely sure how well it works lol)

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[QUOTE="forza420"]

iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations - none of which I know how to work

Cherokee_Jack

This is the part that puzzles me.

Is that supposed to make him endearing to old people who hate technology?

It's supposed to make him relatable.

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This only proves that Obama is in reallity OSAMA! Why do you think he bombs cities? BECAUSE OF RROD AND YLOD! And now that he is a president, he can legally destroy Microsoft and Sony! HIDE!

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="forza420"]

iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations - none of which I know how to work

Willy105

This is the part that puzzles me.

Is that supposed to make him endearing to old people who hate technology?

It's supposed to make him relatable.

To who?

People who don't know how to use an iPod?

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another form of socialist control at its finestspence1988
I guess all parents are socialist when they turn off the TV and force their kids to spend some time outside?
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#28 markop2003
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Read this before in OT with someone saying that obama is going to control all communication channels, i really can't see how someone can inturpret such extreme things out of the speach. All he says is that education is important and it's important to not be distracted by entertainment technology.
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Obama = Communist, Socialist that wants to take our Guns and Videogames :x!!!!!Chutebox
You know, the guns part isn't that bad of a thing to take away...

Yup, let the criminals be the only one with guns!

I don't read too many news stories about guns saving lives...
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[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Obama = Communist, Socialist that wants to take our Guns and Videogames :x!!!!!Sp4rtan_3
You know, the guns part isn't that bad of a thing to take away...

But we need our gunz 4 wen da president decides to enact his Communist manifesto !!! taking away our liberty!!

The best part is that it was a conservative president who passed the patriot act. An act that literally TOOK AWAY RIGHTS.
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Read this before in OT with someone saying that obama is going to control all communication channels, i really can't see how someone can inturpret such extreme things out of the speach. All he says is that education is important and it's important to not be distracted by entertainment technology.markop2003
!!!!! /end of discussion
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#32 BK-Sleeper
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And while Obama is saying digital entertainment is a distraction, the man himself is a distraction to the entire public while Congress devotes another $420 billion in studying the drinking and sex habits of homosexuals in Buenas Aires. So much for putting all effort towards saving GM.
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#33 markop2003
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To who?

People who don't know how to use an iPod?

Cherokee_Jack
To people who's parents can't operate these devices, he's talking to college kids here and their parents won't be much older than him.

Did he not know the power of teh cElL? IT does FOLDING AT HOME its the single greatest thing a console can try and do.(mind you I said TRY,not truely sure how well it works lol)

bloodcord
How exactly does running F&H help your education?
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The kids that don't care for reading books now, wouldn't care for it if there were no video games either. In the meantime he's forgetting that there are some educational aspects to playing video games as well. For instance, I learned to speak English when I was 5, because I played video games and kept on asking my father what everything in them meant, until I could figure it out myself.

But all in all he does have a point I guess. A lack of alternative sources of entertainment could theoretically stimulate some people, that don't do so now, to pick up a book now and then.

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#35 spacedog1973
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Read this before in OT with someone saying that obama is going to control all communication channels, i really can't see how someone can inturpret such extreme things out of the speach. All he says is that education is important and it's important to not be distracted by entertainment technology.markop2003

Exactly. People here seem to be reading things into his speech where they don't exist and then blowing what ever miniscule misinterpretation is found out of proportion.

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As part of the Obama hermit secret service I approve of this message, PC=empowerment while consoles harm our democracy! :D
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That's not all..Obama also poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague onto our houses. But the video game diss is definitely a much more serious matter to discuss. = )

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#38 markop2003
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"] You know, the guns part isn't that bad of a thing to take away... Bread_or_Decide
Yup, let the criminals be the only one with guns!

I don't read too many news stories about guns saving lives...

Saving lives is not what it's about, it's about saving innocent lives, there's a big differance. If it was just about lives in general then guns easily cause a lot more deaths than they save.
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This questions his intelligence more than anything. He can't work an ipod? How did he ever become president. My 64 year old grand mother can use her ipod and the internet.

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#40 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

To who?

People who don't know how to use an iPod?

markop2003
To people who's parents can't operate these devices, he's talking to college kids here and their parents won't be much older than him.

So it's some sort of self-deprecating aside? OK It still bugs me that he supposedly doesn't know how to use an MP3 player. I should think even the parents of college students could manage that much.
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#41 jedikevin2
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We need to just get this thread locked. Combination of gaming a political pointed threads is never a good idea. Add to that, that its system wars and let the insanity begin.
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#42 joshrocks2245
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People can do what they want with their lives. If someone wants to spend all their time playing video games then let them.

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I find it funny all the ones who say "he's right" on a video game forum. The guys a freaking socialist, and will take away/demonize anything that goes against his agenda.
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#44 markop2003
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NielsNL
They help in some cases, i've learnt a hell of a lot from games. However with most mainstream games played by mainstream kids they don't really help. It would be a different matter if they were all playing text based RPG, historical RTSs and trying to program their own games but the majority just play the same old shooters. You could try making an argument about reflexes but reflexes arn't general, a reflex that helps you headshot someone in CoD is not going to help you in any other way, also if you just want to improve general reflexes just tripping up a lot or looking alternately at dark and light objects will increase your reflexes too.
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#45 Delsage
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burned our crops,

TecmoGirl

Ever heard of Fresno California? That brings more truth than you might imagine.

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WOW who would have thought that he would have an opinion
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#47 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]markop2003
They help in some cases, i've learnt a hell of a lot from games. However with most mainstream games played by mainstream kids they don't really help. It would be a different matter if they were all playing text based RPG, historical RTSs and trying to program their own games but the majority just play the same old shooters. You could try making an argument about reflexes but reflexes arn't general, a reflex that helps you headshot someone in CoD is not going to help you in any other way, also if you just want to improve general reflexes just tripping up a lot or looking alternately at dark and light objects will increase your reflexes too.

Agreed. It depends on the type of games and I agree that shooters probably are useless as an educational expereince in any way (sure there are some exceptions that I can't think of right now, but generally speaking).

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[QUOTE="spence1988"]another form of socialist control at its finestBread_or_Decide
I guess all parents are socialist when they turn off the TV and force their kids to spend some time outside?

That is called PARENTING! Something the government isn't Supposed to do. Unless you like big brother?
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I find it funny all the ones who say "he's right" on a video game forum. The guys a freaking socialist, and will take away/demonize anything that goes against his agenda.Delsage
Did you read the article? All these knee jerk responses to what Obama actually said says more about the persons responding then anything else. Zomg the president wants to put an emphasis on education and wants Americans to not be soo disctracted by nonsense that they can't distinguish between truth and BS. But all I'm seeing is a bunch of "waaaa Communist Socialist waaaaa! Herp derp Socalist agenda waaa! Change my diaper mommy badman wants to take my stuffs from me waa!" You guys are better off not talking (or typing actually) about stuff you know very little about, so stick to video games discussions on system wars please this is out of the average System Warriors league.

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I find it funny all the ones who say "he's right" on a video game forum. The guys a freaking socialist, and will take away/demonize anything that goes against his agenda.Delsage

People just have to defend him no matter what he says. If he said "I am going to ban everyone from playing PS3, 360" people here would say "hes doing the right thing" if it was George Bush saying it everyone would be bashing him like crazy.