Played Wii for the first time and it's exactly what I thought it would be...

...a novelty.

Now before the sheep start stampeding, please hear me out. The Wii is revolutionary and I can see why it is selling good. I haven't had extensive time with the system but enough to grasp the concept of the Wii and a few of the games released for it. But from a gamers standpoint, it just doesnt cut it compared to what you can get elsewhere. I confess, I am a bit of a graphics whore, but gameplay is what ultimately keeps me hooked for hours and days sometimes. Everyone have an open-mind and take a minute to read what I have to say.

Advantages

--Controller boggles my mind on how it works. I feel sometimes like I have a full body controller on sensing every movement I make. Truly innovative.

--First-party games are what you have come to expect from Nintendo. All the familiar names are there or will be shortly (Zelda, Metroid, Mario, etc.)

--It is cheaper than the PS3 and Xbox 360 and tons cheaper than a gaming rig.

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--Slick-looking system that fits with anyone's home theatre set-up.

Disadvantages

--Graphics are poor compared to today's standards and will only get worse with what is coming out there for other systems.

--Sound could actually be worse than the graphics.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

--Motion sensing is still not where I would like it to be. There was targeting issues with a few of the FPS games I played and other little annoyances that reminded me that this is new tech.

--Third-party games are weak and nothing on the horizon that jumps out at me. Anything multi-platform either skips the Wii or is a watered down port.

--Majority of games are for a younger audience and I'm not that young anymore.

Conclusion

I'm sure I may have left out a few advantages and disadvantages but this is what my initial impression of playing the Wii has left me with. You get a fun system that would be cool to play with a lot of people who aren't serious gamers. My uncle is the one who owns the system and he is 50+ years old. Exactly the type of person Nintendo is hoping for. And I guarantee you a year from now, he will not be playing his Wii anymore. He's always been into the latest and most hyped tech and this is the latest one. Kinda like the Wii commercials, where you have those two guys come into a business or house and it shows everyone having a good ol' time. It's like a trivia game or board game that you whip out when lots of people are together and need something to do to kill time. A passing interest...a fad...a NOVELTY. Nintendo knows this and, quite frankly, the only ones who don't get it are crazed Nintendo fans. Nintendo doesn't want you sitting on the couch wasting the day away playing their machine. They are content to sell them like hot-cakes for real cheap, let them collect dust in the closet or corner, and when you want a party game or short diversion from reality, to think of them. Everyone has there preference and I like cutting-edge graphics, mature themes, and immersive gameplay. Not cartoonish looking, keyboard sounding, my-wrist-is-throbbing, gameplay.

Anyone else feel the same way? Any Nintendo fans that can acknowledge these obvious facts but are happy anyways? I'd rather fanboys admit the system is a novelty but don't really care, rather than trying to pass this system off as a true gaming system and deny the obvious.

...a novelty.

Now before the sheep start stampeding, please hear me out. The Wii is revolutionary and I can see why it is selling good. I haven't had extensive time with the system but enough to grasp the concept of the Wii and a few of the games released for it. But from a gamers standpoint, it just doesnt cut it compared to what you can get elsewhere. I confess, I am a bit of a graphics whore, but gameplay is what ultimately keeps me hooked for hours and days sometimes. Everyone have an open-mind and take a minute to read what I have to say.

Advantages

--Controller boggles my mind on how it works. I feel sometimes like I have a full body controller on sensing every movement I make. Truly innovative.

--First-party games are what you have come to expect from Nintendo. All the familiar names are there or will be shortly (Zelda, Metroid, Mario, etc.)

--It is cheaper than the PS3 and Xbox 360 and tons cheaper than a gaming rig.

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--Slick-looking system that fits with anyone's home theatre set-up.

Disadvantages

--Graphics are poor compared to today's standards and will only get worse with what is coming out there for other systems.

--Sound could actually be worse than the graphics.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

--Motion sensing is still not where I would like it to be. There was targeting issues with a few of the FPS games I played and other little annoyances that reminded me that this is new tech.

--Third-party games are weak and nothing on the horizon that jumps out at me. Anything multi-platform either skips the Wii or is a watered down port.

--Majority of games are for a younger audience and I'm not that young anymore.

Conclusion

I'm sure I may have left out a few advantages and disadvantages but this is what my initial impression of playing the Wii has left me with. You get a fun system that would be cool to play with a lot of people who aren't serious gamers. My uncle is the one who owns the system and he is 50+ years old. Exactly the type of person Nintendo is hoping for. And I guarantee you a year from now, he will not be playing his Wii anymore. He's always been into the latest and most hyped tech and this is the latest one. Kinda like the Wii commercials, where you have those two guys come into a business or house and it shows everyone having a good ol' time. It's like a trivia game or board game that you whip out when lots of people are together and need something to do to kill time. A passing interest...a fad...a NOVELTY. Nintendo knows this and, quite frankly, the only ones who don't get it are crazed Nintendo fans. Nintendo doesn't want you sitting on the couch wasting the day away playing their machine. They are content to sell them like hot-cakes for real cheap, let them collect dust in the closet or corner, and when you want a party game or short diversion from reality, to think of them. Everyone has there preference and I like cutting-edge graphics, mature themes, and immersive gameplay. Not cartoonish looking, keyboard sounding, my-wrist-is-throbbing, gameplay.

Anyone else feel the same way? Any Nintendo fans that can acknowledge these obvious facts but are happy anyways? I'd rather fanboys admit the system is a novelty but don't really care, rather than trying to pass this system off as a true gaming system and deny the obvious.

d12malu

You are a genius my friend, couldn't have said it better my self. Precisely my thoughts on the Wii and whyI wont buy one.

You say it's a novelty and then immediately after you say it's revolutionary. I agree with you on the sound aspect but the Wii isn't a powerhouse machine catered to graphic lovers. Personally, for what it is, I think the graphics are fine (but Red Steel was a joke!).

It'll be interesting to see how well the Wii does. Personally, I don't put much (in fact, any) stock in all these people shouting "the wii has won TEH WAR." It's doing well now obviously, but Nintendo needs the games to support it.

EDIT: As for the tiredness thing, eh I guess it varies from person to person. I rarely stand up and wave my arms about like they do in the adverts; I just lie on my bed 'cos I'm a lazy bastard.

what game(s) did you play? because If all you played was wii sports, that game is a novelty and is meant to be the hook to the rest of the system. but if it is such a passing fad that will collect dust on people's shelves then why is the attach rate so high? (something like 6:1 in the US)laughingman42

You are pretty accurate. I played Wii sports the most. But also played Red Steel, CoD, and Zelda for a significant time. Wii Sports was fun and obviously isn't meant to be played for long periods of time, but the other games just didnt show me a better gaming experience than what I can get on other systems.

SSB won't even use the Wii controller. It might as well be considered a GameCube game.GodLovesDead

Not entirely sure if this is true, but I think SSBB can use the Wii controller or/and the GameCube controller. Aside from that and a graphical uplifht, the game doesen't seem to have changed much. Some people like it like that, others don't so I guess you could argue either way.

I've never been one to nitpick but how in HELL can the sound be worse than the graphics?

Unless every game uses Midi to output their music and sound then you'd havesome point. Super Monkeyball Banana Blitz on the other hand says otherwise.

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]what game(s) did you play? because If all you played was wii sports, that game is a novelty and is meant to be the hook to the rest of the system. but if it is such a passing fad that will collect dust on people's shelves then why is the attach rate so high? (something like 6:1 in the US)d12malu

You are pretty accurate. I played Wii sports the most. But also played Red Steel, CoD, and Zelda for a significant time. Wii Sports was fun and obviously isn't meant to be played for long periods of time, but the other games just didnt show me a better gaming experience than what I can get on other systems.

That's how I was feeling. After 2 hours of Red Steel, I got sick of turning in that game and threw it out. Played Zelda for 20 hours, but in the end - I got sick of the controller (having to shake it and stuff) and I just lost the desire to play

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]what game(s) did you play? because If all you played was wii sports, that game is a novelty and is meant to be the hook to the rest of the system. but if it is such a passing fad that will collect dust on people's shelves then why is the attach rate so high? (something like 6:1 in the US)d12malu

You are pretty accurate. I played Wii sports the most. But also played Red Steel, CoD, and Zelda for a significant time. Wii Sports was fun and obviously isn't meant to be played for long periods of time, but the other games just didnt show me a better gaming experience than what I can get on other systems.

SSB won't even use the Wii controller. It might as well be considered a GameCube game.GodLovesDead

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various01.html

SSB won't even use the Wii controller. It might as well be considered a GameCube game.GodLovesDead

:lol:One of the stupidest comments I've ever read. Good one!

At least your reasoning was well thought out thread starter, so I respect your point of view on this issue.

However I don't agree with it. You say you spent a short period of time with the wii, probably playing one or two games?

I have spent a few months with it and played about 20 games, and I can tell you, it doesn't dissapoint, even before the big guns have been released.

To each his own I guess.

I got my wii on launch day, and I have finally listed the damn thing on craigs list. I think more and more people are going to start selling them off, its just not that good of a console. We can all and sit around an argue anything, but deep down I think most people know the wii is a relatively lame console. I think these non gamer folk that bought a lot of the wiis will forget about them, and then they will become dust collectors. I turned my wii on for the first time today in a very very long time just to make sure the thing still works. The wii will continue to sell well through the rest of this year, and a little into 08 and then its back to gamecube days. That is not a knock on the gamecube, because I thought the gamecube was a solid console for its time, but it just didn't sell well. All I know is some guy is suppose to meet up with me tuesday and buy my wii for 250, so hopefully he comes through. tylerdurden2621

ok reading that tells me you have no idea how a casual mind works. Most casuals love the wii, most casuals get bored of there console anyway cos they buy far less games

I got my wii on launch day, and I have finally listed the damn thing on craigs list. I think more and more people are going to start selling them off, its just not that good of a console. We can all and sit around an argue anything, but deep down I think most people know the wii is a relatively lame console. I think these non gamer folk that bought a lot of the wiis will forget about them, and then they will become dust collectors. I turned my wii on for the first time today in a very very long time just to make sure the thing still works. The wii will continue to sell well through the rest of this year, and a little into 08 and then its back to gamecube days. That is not a knock on the gamecube, because I thought the gamecube was a solid console for its time, but it just didn't sell well. All I know is some guy is suppose to meet up with me tuesday and buy my wii for 250, so hopefully he comes through. tylerdurden2621

I feel u. I was there on launch day when I got to choose between the Gamecube or Xbox. I went with the Gamecube and quickly realized my mistake. Nintendo lives and dies by their All-Star cast of familiar video game characters and the company just was not growing with my needs. They want to stay with the younger generations, so be it. I returned it and got a Xbox and never looked back. While I missed out on some games I really wanted to play (like Resident Evil 4), I ended up playing it anyways later on PS2, and the advantages of the other systems far outweighed sticking with the Gamecube.

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

d12malu

Somehow these facts make me question whether or not you actually played the system.

[QUOTE="d12malu"]

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

IAmRodyle

Somehow these facts make me question whether or not you actually played the system.

Actually if he really got into wii boxing or tennis then he would be very tired after an hour, or at least sweating profusely.

[QUOTE="d12malu"]

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

IAmRodyle

Somehow these facts make me question whether or not you actually played the system.

I played it, simple as that. About 4-5 hours total on Wii Sports, 2-3 hours on Red Steel, and over an hour each on CoD and Zelda.

Edit: Boxing I feel was the most physically demanding. Swinging both arms like a mad man worked up a sweat in no time.

SSB won't even use the Wii controller. It might as well be considered a GameCube game.GodLovesDead

[QUOTE="IAmRodyle"][QUOTE="d12malu"]

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

d12malu

Somehow these facts make me question whether or not you actually played the system.

I played it, simple as that. About 4-5 hours total on Wii Sports, 2-3 hours on Red Steel, and over an hour each on CoD and Zelda.

Edit: Boxing I feel was the most physically demanding. Swinging both arms like a mad man worked up a sweat in no time.

Then stop flinging around and flick your wrists instead, that all it takes to play the game.

I own a Wii and I agree 100%, no depth.

It reminds me of Guitar Hero, a complete novelty, but you see how long that's stayed popular.

[QUOTE="d12malu"][QUOTE="IAmRodyle"][QUOTE="d12malu"]

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

Titan_V

Somehow these facts make me question whether or not you actually played the system.

I played it, simple as that. About 4-5 hours total on Wii Sports, 2-3 hours on Red Steel, and over an hour each on CoD and Zelda.

Edit: Boxing I feel was the most physically demanding. Swinging both arms like a mad man worked up a sweat in no time.

Then stop flinging around and flick your wrists instead, that all it takes to play the game.

Ya, I figured that out after an hour of playing but I was just getting into it. Basically, I was playing it like the commercials show. Personally, I think it is good to get into it, b/c if all I have to do is flick my wrists then I would rather just push buttons. What is so great about moving my wrists all around? Like Wii baseball, when I first started playing I was doing the batter's stance and pitching like real baseball. Same with bowling, holding the controller up and doing the whole arm movement to bowl. When I realized all you need to do is flick your wrists around, I really started to not see the point in having the Wii controller the way it is. Essentially, it is a wireless controller with a little more movement. And the one genre that I thought the Wii would excel at (FPS) turned out to be not what I expected. Like someone posted above though, to each his own, and the Wii doesn't do it for me.

I own a Wii and I agree 100%, no depth.

It reminds me of Guitar Hero, a complete novelty, but you see how long that's stayed popular.

Suyomizzle_

Good comparison. Now if Wii gave me a replica machine gun to use in CoD, that would be fun. Or a replica samurai sword for Red Steel, it would be better. But for obvious reasons they dont. And yes, Wii will probably outsell everything this coming Christmas, but it will be b/c casual gamers and parents don't know any better or can't afford it. Think about it, average parent walks into a store, kid has been bugging them about a video game system, and you dont know the difference between the 3 systems. What do you choose? I guarantee you, the cheapest one 9 times out of 10.

Don't get me wrong, I like Nintendo and alot of their first-party games but they are a very stubborn company and always have been. They don't neccessarily listen to the consumers (Miyamoto made that perfectly clear in an interview when he said whatever people want, he tries to do the opposite. Like trying to deliver what people don't know they want yet.) Well thanks Miyamoto, but Im jaded enough to know what I want and he even said he doesn't play games anymore so he is not in touch with the gamer. I was a sheep before with Nintendo 64 and the stubborness of Nintendo (cartridges are superior, Nintendo seal of quality, blah blah blah) led to their downfall. Now Im just a gamer who is educated enough to know what I want.

I'm a Wii owner, loved SNES, N64, even the Cube wasn't bad. But there is something I don't like about the Wii and the way Nintendo is going, they have become sickenly casual and the Wii is the most casual console I've ever played. They are changing gaming for the worse and I hate everything the Wiiand Nintendo now stand for. Sad as I was a massive Nintendo fan during the SNES days. But I hope it's a massive failure over time, sadly it won't be as casuals rule all.NickJayD

FTW, especially the last sentence.

SSB won't even use the Wii controller. It might as well be considered a GameCube game.GodLovesDead

Actually it does..

SSB won't even use the Wii controller. It might as well be considered a GameCube game.GodLovesDead

the official smash bros website disagrees

I couldn't even bring myself to finish one of my favourite franchises because it was on Wii, Zelda TP. I found the controls WORSE with the Wiimote than with a normal analog stick, and there was just something missing from the game that was in previous Zelda games. I got bored...

I traded it in the other day and the guy behind the counter says to me you got a Wii?...I'm like duh yeah I do. He says yeah it was cool at first but it's become like a gimmick now. I was surprised as this is there best selling console and they are bashing it, it seems people are waking up to the cold hard truth that Wii is becoming a annoyance, a pain in the ass of gaming and it's not going to go away. I'm going to sell my Wii and get a PS3 to go with my 360, I don't care if people don't like PS3, at least it's not a ******* gimmick.

At least your reasoning was well thought out thread starter, so I respect your point of view on this issue.

However I don't agree with it. You say you spent a short period of time with the wii, probably playing one or two games?

I have spent a few months with it and played about 20 games, and I can tell you, it doesn't dissapoint, even before the big guns have been released.

To each his own I guess.

Gangans

You've wasted a lot of money if you bought those games. I would struggle to buy 5 games for the Wii.

You work out religiously, yet you found the Wii makes you tired. :?

Im a fat slob, and i can handle the Wii just fine.

[QUOTE="Suyomizzle_"]

I own a Wii and I agree 100%, no depth.

It reminds me of Guitar Hero, a complete novelty, but you see how long that's stayed popular.

d12malu

Good comparison. Now if Wii gave me a replica machine gun to use in CoD, that would be fun. Or a replica samurai sword for Red Steel, it would be better.

And coming to the conclusion that the Wii is a novelty based on only launch titles is hilarious. At least play some more games on it for longer periods of time before coming to such a conclusion. Also, you might want to sit down next time if you want to relax and play games. You don't have to be like those people in the ads.

For me:

The games you like, I play on the PC. For the "cartoonish looking, keyboard sounding, my-wrist-is-throbbing" (BTW, that just screams bias) gameplay I play the Wii.

The Wii hasn't been out a year, 3rd parties haven't created anything worth while for it, Nintendo hasn't put out it's 'heavy hitters' and motion sensing is first generation. Demanding perfection right out of the gates is like demanding games like Starfox, Donkey Kong Country, and Super Mario RPG the instant the SNES system was released.

"Now before the sheep start stampeding, please hear me out. The Wii is revolutionary and I can see why it is selling good. I haven't had extensive time with the system"

You really cant put your own thoughts till you get more time playing therefore you shouldnt of made this thread

...a novelty.

Now before the sheep start stampeding, please hear me out. The Wii is revolutionary and I can see why it is selling good. I haven't had extensive time with the system but enough to grasp the concept of the Wii and a few of the games released for it. But from a gamers standpoint, it just doesnt cut it compared to what you can get elsewhere. I confess, I am a bit of a graphics whore, but gameplay is what ultimately keeps me hooked for hours and days sometimes. Everyone have an open-mind and take a minute to read what I have to say.

Advantages

--Controller boggles my mind on how it works. I feel sometimes like I have a full body controller on sensing every movement I make. Truly innovative.

--First-party games are what you have come to expect from Nintendo. All the familiar names are there or will be shortly (Zelda, Metroid, Mario, etc.)

--It is cheaper than the PS3 and Xbox 360 and tons cheaper than a gaming rig.

--You actually work up a sweat so if you want to do some aerobic exercise and game at the same time, you can.

--Slick-looking system that fits with anyone's home theatre set-up.

Disadvantages

--Graphics are poor compared to today's standards and will only get worse with what is coming out there for other systems.

--Sound could actually be worse than the graphics.

--I couldn't play for more than an hour at a time b/c I was tired. And I work out religiously. It is just that I'm not looking to exercise while playing games. I'm looking to unwind and relax.

--Motion sensing is still not where I would like it to be. There was targeting issues with a few of the FPS games I played and other little annoyances that reminded me that this is new tech.

--Third-party games are weak and nothing on the horizon that jumps out at me. Anything multi-platform either skips the Wii or is a watered down port.

--Majority of games are for a younger audience and I'm not that young anymore.

Conclusion

I'm sure I may have left out a few advantages and disadvantages but this is what my initial impression of playing the Wii has left me with. You get a fun system that would be cool to play with a lot of people who aren't serious gamers. My uncle is the one who owns the system and he is 50+ years old. Exactly the type of person Nintendo is hoping for. And I guarantee you a year from now, he will not be playing his Wii anymore. He's always been into the latest and most hyped tech and this is the latest one. Kinda like the Wii commercials, where you have those two guys come into a business or house and it shows everyone having a good ol' time. It's like a trivia game or board game that you whip out when lots of people are together and need something to do to kill time. A passing interest...a fad...a NOVELTY. Nintendo knows this and, quite frankly, the only ones who don't get it are crazed Nintendo fans. Nintendo doesn't want you sitting on the couch wasting the day away playing their machine. They are content to sell them like hot-cakes for real cheap, let them collect dust in the closet or corner, and when you want a party game or short diversion from reality, to think of them. Everyone has there preference and I like cutting-edge graphics, mature themes, and immersive gameplay. Not cartoonish looking, keyboard sounding, my-wrist-is-throbbing, gameplay.

Anyone else feel the same way? Any Nintendo fans that can acknowledge these obvious facts but are happy anyways? I'd rather fanboys admit the system is a novelty but don't really care, rather than trying to pass this system off as a true gaming system and deny the obvious.

d12malu

b1. you cant make that statement till we see all wii grapchis power that just a plain wrong statment.

b2. really i dont think this is true. maybe you just got a bad tv or the speaker on wiiremote is not done well.

b3. somehow i doubt you work out if you cant even play an hr. ITS A FLIK OF A WRIST you dont need to move around and you do realx :roll:

b4. It takes time to get use to the controller give developers a chance.

b5. its already ben reported 1000000000000000000 times that there switching to wii over and over... :roll:

b6. your a troll thats all you are :|

im done

AHAHA couldn't play it for more than an hour? Want another cookie boy?Metroid_Time

Yeah, what was he running full speed on a treadmill when he was playing?

--Third-party games are weak and nothing on the horizon that jumps out at me. Anything multi-platform either skips the Wii or is a watered down port.

--Majority of games are for a younger audience and I'm not that young anymore.

d12malu

So wait, you played the Wii for a little while and you came to this conclusion? Did you play all the (or most) of the games in its library when you tried it. Everything else in your post was fine but this.

You work out religiously, yet you found the Wii makes you tired. :?

Im a fat slob, and i can handle the Wii just fine.

hyruledweller

I mostly do anaerobic exercises (that's weight-lifting for you fat slobs out there ;) ). And I was getting into it like the commercials. Besides, I get alot of aerobic exercise already playing basketball and other outdoor activities. Im not looking for a gaming machine that makes me sweat. And after playing and figuring out all I have to do is flick the wrist, well, what is really the immersion in that?

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]

You work out religiously, yet you found the Wii makes you tired. :?

Im a fat slob, and i can handle the Wii just fine.

d12malu

I mostly do anaerobic exercises (that's weight-lifting for you fat slobs out there ;) ). And I was getting into it like the commercials. Besides, I get alot of aerobic exercise already playing basketball and other outdoor activities. Im not looking for a gaming machine that makes me sweat. And after playing and figuring out all I have to do is flick the wrist, well, what is really the immersion in that?

I go all out on the motions in warioware and I never really got tired from it.

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]SSB won't even use the Wii controller. It might as well be considered a GameCube game.ScrunchMuppet

Not entirely sure if this is true, but I think SSBB can use the Wii controller or/and the GameCube controller. Aside from that and a graphical uplifht, the game doesen't seem to have changed much. Some people like it like that, others don't so I guess you could argue either way.

false wii can you wii remote wii andnunchuck, cube controller, and classic controller all of the,

http://wii.ign.com/articles/795/795127p1.html