Nvidia Shield 2 specs revealed!

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#1 Posted by loco145 (10838 posts) -

CPU: 2.5 GHz 4 Cores.

GPU: Nvidia Tegra K with 192 CUDA cores (Kepler)

RAM: 4GB

Screen: 1440x810

Source.

More powerful than the XBOne?

#2 Posted by lbjkurono23 (12544 posts) -

Highly interested.

#3 Edited by Basinboy (11389 posts) -

Hopefully the controller shell also receives a needed upgrade.

But interested, nonetheless.

#4 Posted by scatteh316 (5021 posts) -

192 cores it what the GTX 260 released with, but I'm willing to bet that the clock speed will be lower on the shield.

#5 Posted by silversix_ (15925 posts) -

Who buys this shit?

#6 Posted by melonfarmerz (1282 posts) -

@silversix_: Surprisingly, quite a few people.

It's cheap and the ability to stream PC games is amazing

#7 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

man if only it was 1920x810. then it could get the order 1886; with 5px tall black bars top 'n' bottom.

#8 Posted by silversix_ (15925 posts) -

@melonfarmerz said:

@silversix_: Surprisingly, quite a few people.

It's cheap and the ability to stream PC games is amazing

why is it amazing? if you have a pc strong enough to play everything, wtf is the point of streaming when you could be rolling at 1800p+?

#9 Posted by ninjapirate2000 (3253 posts) -

Just to play android games? No thanks.

#10 Posted by melonfarmerz (1282 posts) -

@silversix_: when you want to lie down on your bed and play i guess. Don't quote me on this but i'm pretty sure the shield can output to your tv to so you can play in your living room without moving your PC

#11 Posted by JangoWuzHere (17350 posts) -

The android gaming line up just isn't good enough to lay down money for a gaming console. If it were an ios console that was compatible with the majority of games, that would be cool.

#12 Posted by santoron (8007 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

@melonfarmerz said:

@silversix_: Surprisingly, quite a few people.

It's cheap and the ability to stream PC games is amazing

why is it amazing? if you have a pc strong enough to play everything, wtf is the point of streaming when you could be rolling at 1800p+?

People like to play in different places, and resolution isn't always their primary concern. I don't use an nvidia card atm, but this little machine makes me want to make a switch every time it comes up.

#13 Edited by R4gn4r0k (17478 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

Who buys this shit?

My thoughts exactly. Was the shield that succesful it warranted a new one ?

#14 Posted by silversix_ (15925 posts) -

@santoron said:

@silversix_ said:

@melonfarmerz said:

@silversix_: Surprisingly, quite a few people.

It's cheap and the ability to stream PC games is amazing

why is it amazing? if you have a pc strong enough to play everything, wtf is the point of streaming when you could be rolling at 1800p+?

, but this little machine makes me want to make a switch every time it comes up.

REALLY? lol i guess people do buy random overpriced crap

#15 Edited by lawlessx (47151 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

@santoron said:

@silversix_ said:

@melonfarmerz said:

@silversix_: Surprisingly, quite a few people.

It's cheap and the ability to stream PC games is amazing

why is it amazing? if you have a pc strong enough to play everything, wtf is the point of streaming when you could be rolling at 1800p+?

, but this little machine makes me want to make a switch every time it comes up.

REALLY? lol i guess people do buy random overpriced crap

if they find the features are worth the price why do you care?

#16 Posted by silversix_ (15925 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

@silversix_ said:

@santoron said:

@silversix_ said:

@melonfarmerz said:

@silversix_: Surprisingly, quite a few people.

It's cheap and the ability to stream PC games is amazing

why is it amazing? if you have a pc strong enough to play everything, wtf is the point of streaming when you could be rolling at 1800p+?

, but this little machine makes me want to make a switch every time it comes up.

REALLY? lol i guess people do buy random overpriced crap

if they find the features are worth the price why do you care?

trying to understand, not care.

#17 Edited by Spartan070 (16377 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

@melonfarmerz said:

@silversix_: Surprisingly, quite a few people.

It's cheap and the ability to stream PC games is amazing

why is it amazing? if you have a pc strong enough to play everything, wtf is the point of streaming when you could be rolling at 1800p+?

Portability? Some of us are on the go alot.

#18 Posted by clyde46 (47476 posts) -

Shield 2? They haven't even released the first one over here yet.

#19 Posted by remiks00 (2465 posts) -

@silversix_ Personally brother, I've been debating on whether to buy a Nvidia Shield or a 3DSXL for work. I work long 12 hours shifts overnight each day; and there's quite a bit of downtime some nights. I already own a vita, but there's really not much to play on it that interests me other than Persona 4 & Toukiden...

So it would be cool to play my PC games from home while I'm at work during downtime to stay awake. But I'm skeptical on the game streaming ability Since my streaming experience with the Vita/PS4 was piss poor.

#21 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (5138 posts) -

I wonder how the GPU side of that Tegra 4 compares to an AMD APU. It sounds strong.

#22 Edited by WallofTruth (2010 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

man if only it was 1920x810. then it could get the order 1886; with 5px tall black bars top 'n' bottom.

TCHBO

#23 Posted by musicalmac (23575 posts) -

android = nope

#24 Posted by faizan_faizan (7868 posts) -

LOL. Seriously? After the first Shield do they really expect people to buy this?

#25 Posted by delta3074 (18825 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

Who buys this shit?

ME, i already have a nexus 7 which has a tegra 3 GPU and i am very interested in what the K1 can do, have you seen Hawken on the shield? looks amazing

#26 Posted by Heil68 (46851 posts) -

@musicalmac said:

android = nope

#27 Posted by delta3074 (18825 posts) -
@HalcyonScarlet said:

I wonder how the GPU side of that Tegra 4 compares to an AMD APU. It sounds strong.

its not the tegra 4, its the tegra K1, Tegra 4 only has 72 cores, Tegra 3 has 24 cores.

#28 Edited by _Matt_ (9363 posts) -

@Heil68 said:

@musicalmac said:

android = nope

#29 Posted by clyde46 (47476 posts) -

@remiks00 said:

@silversix_ Personally brother, I've been debating on whether to buy a Nvidia Shield or a 3DSXL for work. I work long 12 hours shifts overnight each day; and there's quite a bit of downtime some nights. I already own a vita, but there's really not much to play on it that interests me other than Persona 4 & Toukiden...

So it would be cool to play my PC games from home while I'm at work during downtime to stay awake. But I'm skeptical on the game streaming ability Since my streaming experience with the Vita/PS4 was piss poor.

You need a 5GHz router for internal streaming and a decent upload speed for internet streaming. The latest update for the Gforce experience allows it.

#30 Edited by kuu2 (7918 posts) -

Can't wait till all these Android systems go the way of the Dodo.

#31 Posted by edwardecl (2239 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

Can't wait till all these Android systems go the way of the Dodo.

I guess you don't like Android then? Considering their market share I don't think they are going anywhere anytime soon. I have no problem with Android handheld gaming machines even if I would not personally touch one with a ten foot barge pole. Also it has rather a stupid name 'Shield'... who came up with that, maybe it's just me.

#32 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (5138 posts) -

@delta3074 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

I wonder how the GPU side of that Tegra 4 compares to an AMD APU. It sounds strong.

its not the tegra 4, its the tegra K1, Tegra 4 only has 72 cores, Tegra 3 has 24 cores.

Oh okay, that then.

#33 Posted by lbjkurono23 (12544 posts) -

NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, N64, DS, PSP, PS1, DC, neo, genesis............... if dolphin can run on this thing.

Greatest handheld confirmed.

Have my doubts with nvdia when it comes to tegra.

#34 Posted by NVIDIATI (7848 posts) -

@lbjkurono23 said:

NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, N64, DS, PSP, PS1, DC, neo, genesis............... if dolphin can run on this thing.

Greatest handheld confirmed.

Have my doubts with nvdia when it comes to tegra.

It will be using Android as the OS.

#35 Edited by lbjkurono23 (12544 posts) -

@NVIDIATI said:

@lbjkurono23 said:

NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, N64, DS, PSP, PS1, DC, neo, genesis............... if dolphin can run on this thing.

Greatest handheld confirmed.

Have my doubts with nvdia when it comes to tegra.

It will be using Android as the OS.

What are you trying to say?

I know Dolphin is on android, but it doesn't run t well, more than likely due to slow development, and hardware.

#36 Posted by charizard1605 (61042 posts) -

Seriously interested, the first one was great.

#37 Posted by lostrib (42227 posts) -

I'm surprised they're making another one, didn't think it did that well

#38 Posted by NVIDIATI (7848 posts) -

@lbjkurono23 said:

@NVIDIATI said:

@lbjkurono23 said:

NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, N64, DS, PSP, PS1, DC, neo, genesis............... if dolphin can run on this thing.

Greatest handheld confirmed.

Have my doubts with nvdia when it comes to tegra.

It will be using Android as the OS.

What are you trying to say?

I know Dolphin is on android, but it doesn't run t well, more than likely due to slow development, and hardware.

Well that's what I was getting at, Android doesn't always handle emulation that well. At least not yet anyways.

#39 Posted by musicalmac (23575 posts) -

@lostrib said:

I'm surprised they're making another one, didn't think it did that well

That's a good point.

#40 Edited by remiks00 (2465 posts) -

@clyde46 said:

@remiks00 said:

@silversix_ Personally brother, I've been debating on whether to buy a Nvidia Shield or a 3DSXL for work. I work long 12 hours shifts overnight each day; and there's quite a bit of downtime some nights. I already own a vita, but there's really not much to play on it that interests me other than Persona 4 & Toukiden...

So it would be cool to play my PC games from home while I'm at work during downtime to stay awake. But I'm skeptical on the game streaming ability Since my streaming experience with the Vita/PS4 was piss poor.

You need a 5GHz router for internal streaming and a decent upload speed for internet streaming. The latest update for the Gforce experience allows it.

This is my average speed, and I'm also hardwired using this router. I've even used "Splashtop" to remote onto my desktop from work and it's still a bit laggy vs my co-worker's experience. He experiences absolutely no lag at all. He speed is slower, and uses Comcast as well.. So i have no idea whats going on.

#41 Edited by loco145 (10838 posts) -

Lol @people who have never even held a Shield criticizing the device. The first version is already the best handheld console ever made. The second version should be godly!

#42 Posted by clyde46 (47476 posts) -

@remiks00 said:

@clyde46 said:

@remiks00 said:

@silversix_ Personally brother, I've been debating on whether to buy a Nvidia Shield or a 3DSXL for work. I work long 12 hours shifts overnight each day; and there's quite a bit of downtime some nights. I already own a vita, but there's really not much to play on it that interests me other than Persona 4 & Toukiden...

So it would be cool to play my PC games from home while I'm at work during downtime to stay awake. But I'm skeptical on the game streaming ability Since my streaming experience with the Vita/PS4 was piss poor.

You need a 5GHz router for internal streaming and a decent upload speed for internet streaming. The latest update for the Gforce experience allows it.

This is my average speed, and I'm also hardwired using this router. I've even used "Splashtop" to remote onto my desktop from work and it's still a bit laggy vs my co-worker's experience. He experiences absolutely no lag at all. He speed is slower, and uses Comcast as well.. So i have no idea whats going on.

That should be ok. Try using Teamviewer to see if its a network issue.

#43 Posted by lbjkurono23 (12544 posts) -

@NVIDIATI said:

@lbjkurono23 said:

@NVIDIATI said:

@lbjkurono23 said:

NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, N64, DS, PSP, PS1, DC, neo, genesis............... if dolphin can run on this thing.

Greatest handheld confirmed.

Have my doubts with nvdia when it comes to tegra.

It will be using Android as the OS.

What are you trying to say?

I know Dolphin is on android, but it doesn't run t well, more than likely due to slow development, and hardware.

Well that's what I was getting at, Android doesn't always handle emulation that well. At least not yet anyways.

Most of those work very well, but yeah. I hope it gets there eventually.

What do you think of the tegra K, and the upcoming snapdragon? I haven't been following the news lately.

#44 Posted by NVIDIATI (7848 posts) -

@lbjkurono23 said:

@NVIDIATI said:

@lbjkurono23 said:

@NVIDIATI said:

@lbjkurono23 said:

NES, SNES, GBC, GBA, N64, DS, PSP, PS1, DC, neo, genesis............... if dolphin can run on this thing.

Greatest handheld confirmed.

Have my doubts with nvdia when it comes to tegra.

It will be using Android as the OS.

What are you trying to say?

I know Dolphin is on android, but it doesn't run t well, more than likely due to slow development, and hardware.

Well that's what I was getting at, Android doesn't always handle emulation that well. At least not yet anyways.

Most of those work very well, but yeah. I hope it gets there eventually.

What do you think of the tegra K, and the upcoming snapdragon? I haven't been following the news lately.

The 4x Cortex A15's at 2.5 GHz I would imagine are quite power hungry, even with the single low power core. This was one of the problems with Tegra 4. On the GPU side of things, the Kepler cores look to be a huge improvement, not to mention the vast API support Tegra K1 can offer. Getting back to the CPU, the second version of Tegra K1 will be using 2x Denver cores (Denver is NVIDIA's in-house 64-bit ARMv8 core). Unfortunately we know very little about Denver at this time, but I could imagine this has the potential to reduce power consumption while offering greater performance.

When it comes to Qualcomm, the Snapdragon 805 will pack an Adreno 420 GPU (40% improved performance over the Adreno 330) and should be on the market sometime this summer. However, the CPU will still be Qualcomm's Krait architecture, this time the Krait 450.This SoC will likely remain in Qualcomm's top spot until the end of the year,

Their next flagship SoC will only come early 2015, the Snapdragon 810. It will be using 4x Cortex A57 and 4x Cortex A53 cores in a big.LITTLE configuration, it will feature LPDDR4 RAM and an Adreno 430 GPU. But that's a long way off.

There is still a lot we don't know, so it's hard to pass judgement on these SoCs just yet.

The other SoC (non-phone) I'm going to be keeping my eye on is Intel's 14nm Cherry Trail which is set for launch in Q4 of this year, apparently it will have a massive boost in GPU performance over Bay Trail. More information is expected at Computex.

#45 Edited by lbjkurono23 (12544 posts) -

Amazing at how fast the mobile tech is moving. Which ended up being the top performer between the S800 vs Tegra 4?
Last time I was keeping up the exynos was the top dog, and tegra 2 was under performing. What happened to the exynos line?

If my device can run most of those emu's pretty well than I suppose these upcoming devices should fare much better right?

#46 Posted by NVIDIATI (7848 posts) -

@lbjkurono23 said:

Amazing at how fast the mobile tech is moving. Which ended up being the top performer between the S800 vs Tegra 4?

Last time I was keeping up the exynos was the top dog, and tegra 2 was under performing. What happened to the exynos line?

If my device can run most of those emu's pretty well than I suppose these upcoming devices should fare much better right?

Snapdragon 800 ended ahead of Tegra 4 (which had little to no design wins). The Exynos SoCs have been a bit of a mess, they've all tried ARM's big.LITTLE design, but had some problems with the implementation. The GPU looked good on paper (ARM's Mali-T6xx series), but real world performance ends up being less than the Adreno 330. Overall, Qualcomm has managed to win just about every major design win since their Snapdragon 600/800 SoCs launched. Their vast LTE and LTE-Advanced support has also been a huge factor in their success.

I think the software optimization (at least for something like dolphin) still needs a little more work, but throwing some brute force with increased API support into the mix might help fix that problem quickly (assuming the developers are quick to adapt).

#47 Posted by Cyberdot (3917 posts) -

192 CUDA cores...

lol

#48 Posted by AM-Gamer (5164 posts) -

@loco145: It's just a portable android console that streams pc games , it sucks.

#49 Posted by xhawk27 (7527 posts) -

@loco145 said:

CPU: 2.5 GHz 4 Cores.

GPU: Nvidia Tegra K with 192 CUDA cores (Kepler)

RAM: 4GB

Screen: 1440x810

Source.

More powerful than the XBOne?

No but it's more poweful than the Vita(lol)

#50 Posted by NVIDIATI (7848 posts) -

@xhawk27 said:

@loco145 said:

CPU: 2.5 GHz 4 Cores.

GPU: Nvidia Tegra K with 192 CUDA cores (Kepler)

RAM: 4GB

Screen: 1440x810

Source.

More powerful than the XBOne?

No but it's more poweful than the Vita(lol)

The first one was also more powerful than the Vita. The Vita only uses 4x Cortex A9 cores with a PowerVR SGX543MP4+, which put it between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 in performance (closer to the iPad 3).