Nintendo Leading Microsoft and Sony Into A TRAP?

Step 1: Create Titles That Introduces Players To Gaming!

Step 2: Bridge the Hell Out of the Casuals!

Step 3: Introduce the Newly Dedicated Fans To Nintendo's History!

Step 4: Now That They Are Fans, Give 'um Core Material!

New Super Mario Bros. Wii - The PERFECT BRIDGE TITLE...

... To This More Hearty Offering! Super Mario Galaxy 2!

The Sequel We Never Thought We Would Get! Sin & Punishment!!

Who Has Seen Nintendo Do Something This Hardcore?!?

This Leaves An Entire Generation Purely Nintendo Fodder! Are Sony and Microsoft Too Late!?

...this thread is part joke, part serious... yup. :D

Sony will pump out hardcore and casual titles. :D

About your post on Sin & Punishment 2 I thought it was going to be announced last E3 but it wasn't announced until October 2nd.

Also your thread is funny and great as usual.

Casuals will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Seriously though, Nintendo's R&D numbers have jumped CRAZY... hopefully signs of something really awesome next gen.

About your post on Sin & Punishment 2 I thought it was going to be announced last E3 but it wasn't announced until October 2nd.

Also your thread is funny and great as usual.

Nintendo_Ownes7

You mean ... leading casuals into hardcore gaming with tacked on motion controls to entice them? Yes, they're probably doing that.

Nintendo is a genius! :o

Did you see what Nintendo is doing to Sony in Japan? :lol: Black Wii packaged with Monster Hunter 3..... the same month as Wii Sports Resort........... NSMB for Xmas. Red DS packaged with DQIX in august. Ruthless I tell you.... ruthless. :lol:desmondsultanas

Casuals will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Seriously though, Nintendo's R&D numbers have jumped CRAZY... hopefully signs of something really awesome next gen.

TaMuK711

[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

Casuals will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Seriously though, Nintendo's R&D numbers have jumped CRAZY... hopefully signs of something really awesome next gen.

Tylendal

Casuals will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Seriously though, Nintendo's R&D numbers have jumped CRAZY... hopefully signs of something really awesome next gen.

TaMuK711

[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

Casuals will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Seriously though, Nintendo's R&D numbers have jumped CRAZY... hopefully signs of something really awesome next gen.

Tylendal

lol funny post. i dont think their doing it on purpose but it would be funny if it was their planmurat8

Actually, they are. And they have been incredibly open about it. I guess the best way to hide a strategy is to talk about it all the time. Google "Birdmen and the casual fallacy" and read it, especially the quotes from Nintendo that the author uses.

Did you see what Nintendo is doing to Sony in Japan? :lol: Black Wii packaged with Monster Hunter 3..... the same month as Wii Sports Resort........... NSMB for Xmas. Red DS packaged with DQIX in august. Ruthless I tell you.... ruthless. :lol:desmondsultanas

Did you see what Nintendo is doing to Sony in Japan? :lol: Black Wii packaged with Monster Hunter 3..... the same month as Wii Sports Resort........... NSMB for Xmas. Red DS packaged with DQIX in august. Ruthless I tell you.... ruthless. :lol:desmondsultanas

Black Wii = PS2

Black controller = PS2 controller

nintendo has sony by the balls, aiming for PS2 owners addicted to MH2, GENIUS!

Sony will pump out hardcore and casual titles. :D

jakehouston88

[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

Sony will pump out hardcore and casual titles. :D

kansasdude2009

[QUOTE="murat8"]lol funny post. i dont think their doing it on purpose but it would be funny if it was their planLordQuorthon

Actually, they are. And they have been incredibly open about it. I guess the best way to hide a strategy is to talk about it all the time. Google "Birdmen and the casual fallacy" and read it, especially the quotes from Nintendo that the author uses.

That article, and the many others on the website is why I became frustrated with system wars, and never lost faith in Nintendo. Very few people on the forums really saw what was coming.Tylendal

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

Actually, they are. And they have been incredibly open about it. I guess the best way to hide a strategy is to talk about it all the time. Google "Birdmen and the casual fallacy" and read it, especially the quotes from Nintendo that the author uses.

desmondsultanas

Ya, jsut read the article, very interesting.

One thing though, there is a WiiSports 2 coming out... But I'm guessing that is for introducing many players to the M+... And the New Super Mario Bros. does also seem like a bridge... Maybe to Super Mario Galaxy 2? Metroid seems too far of a jump to think Nintendo is trying to bridge... But I have NO doubt that the Metroid Prime Trilogy pack is linked to the release of Other M next year. I wouldn't be AT all surprised if it is armed at female gamers, an heroine that ISN'T slutty, that is what I always liked about Metroid (and that's probably why she is speaking as well, btw, she speaks through dialog in Super Metroid, so don't give us this, 'oh nintendo is stabbing metroid in the back because she speaks' bs)... She isn't wearing a bikini while saving the universe, and hopefully it works for them... Nintendo will rule the world within a decade IMO.

Sony and MS have zero franchises that appeal to a wide range of demographics. Zero. Sony is making strides with titles like LBP, but the manor in which it sold was very front loaded like most hardcore titles and failed to catch on. They simply don't have the compelling franchises that appeal to gamers, non-gamers and casuals and that puts them at an incredible disadvantage. When Nintendo launches next gen with few of their huge casual, core, and bridge franchises the party will be over for the competition before it even started... much like this generation.desmondsultanas

If I had bought stock in Nintendo 5 years ago, I'd be defecating myself with glee right along with you. Unfortunately, while excellent marketing may be value adding for investors, crappy games are not value adding for consumers. Unless the marketing convinces them that they're great games. It worked for you, apparently.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]

That article, and the many others on the website is why I became frustrated with system wars, and never lost faith in Nintendo. Very few people on the forums really saw what was coming.LordQuorthon

I dunno. This seems all out of order.

Why would they deliver most of the core titles early? They'd miss out on most of the gamers they were hoping to bridge. Every game you listed in step 4 came out before every game you listed in step 3, with the exception of Excite Truck, a game with, at best, loose ties to Nintendo's past.

Still, this was a much stronger E3 than last year's pathetic performance. Galaxy 2 and Other M are at least something for the hardcore to chew on, while New SMB, Wii Fit +, and Wii Sports Resort are all great for their more casual audience. There might wind up being some crossover down the line.

Still, when you compare the sales of, say, Super Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess to those of Wii Fit and Mario Kart, I don't know if there's a ton of transfer going on. Perhaps it's presumptuous of me to compare those games with some of the hottest titles of last year, but I think, for the forseeable future, those titles will be dwarfed in sales by their more accessible counterparts.

That isn't bad for Nintendo, but it doesn't earn customers in the manner you are implying. It's just a different way.

I dunno. This seems all out of order.

Why would they deliver most of the core titles early? They'd miss out on most of the gamers they were hoping to bridge. Every game you listed in step 4 came out before every game you listed in step 3, with the exception of Excite Truck, a game with, at best, loose ties to Nintendo's past.

Still, this was a much stronger E3 than last year's pathetic performance. Galaxy 2 and Other M are at least something for the hardcore to chew on, while New SMB, Wii Fit +, and Wii Sports Resort are all great for their more casual audience. There might wind up being some crossover down the line.

Still, when you compare the sales of, say, Super Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess to those of Wii Fit and Mario Kart, I don't know if there's a ton of transfer going on. Perhaps it's presumptuous of me to compare those games with some of the hottest titles of last year, but I think, for the forseeable future, those titles will be dwarfed in sales by their more accessible counterparts.

That isn't bad for Nintendo, but it doesn't earn customers in the manner you are implying. It's just a different way.

sonicmj1

[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"][QUOTE="kansasdude2009"] That article, and the many others on the website is why I became frustrated with system wars, and never lost faith in Nintendo. Very few people on the forums really saw what was coming.Iamsmee

Ya, jsut read the article, very interesting.

One thing though, there is a WiiSports 2 coming out... But I'm guessing that is for introducing many players to the M+... And the New Super Mario Bros. does also seem like a bridge... Maybe to Super Mario Galaxy 2? Metroid seems too far of a jump to think Nintendo is trying to bridge... But I have NO doubt that the Metroid Prime Trilogy pack is linked to the release of Other M next year. I wouldn't be AT all surprised if it is armed at female gamers, an heroine that ISN'T slutty, that is what I always liked about Metroid (and that's probably why she is speaking as well, btw, she speaks through dialog in Super Metroid, so don't give us this, 'oh nintendo is stabbing metroid in the back because she speaks' bs)... She isn't wearing a bikini while saving the universe, and hopefully it works for them... Nintendo will rule the world within a decade IMO.

Sony and MS have zero franchises that appeal to a wide range of demographics. Zero. Sony is making strides with titles like LBP, but the manor in which it sold was very front loaded like most hardcore titles and failed to catch on. They simply don't have the compelling franchises that appeal to gamers, non-gamers and casuals and that puts them at an incredible disadvantage. When Nintendo launches next gen with few of their huge casual, core, and bridge franchises the party will be over for the competition before it even started... much like this generation.desmondsultanas

I dunno. This seems all out of order.

Why would they deliver most of the core titles early? They'd miss out on most of the gamers they were hoping to bridge. Every game you listed in step 4 came out before every game you listed in step 3, with the exception of Excite Truck, a game with, at best, loose ties to Nintendo's past.

Still, this was a much stronger E3 than last year's pathetic performance. Galaxy 2 and Other M are at least something for the hardcore to chew on, while New SMB, Wii Fit +, and Wii Sports Resort are all great for their more casual audience. There might wind up being some crossover down the line.

Still, when you compare the sales of, say, Super Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess to those of Wii Fit and Mario Kart, I don't know if there's a ton of transfer going on. Perhaps it's presumptuous of me to compare those games with some of the hottest titles of last year, but I think, for the forseeable future, those titles will be dwarfed in sales by their more accessible counterparts.

That isn't bad for Nintendo, but it doesn't earn customers in the manner you are implying. It's just a different way.

sonicmj1

Well Sony followed Nintendo and just made it better, while M$ made something that does not seem to have much use in gaming now but technically very cool as an interface.wooooode

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

I dunno. This seems all out of order.

Why would they deliver most of the core titles early? They'd miss out on most of the gamers they were hoping to bridge. Every game you listed in step 4 came out before every game you listed in step 3, with the exception of Excite Truck, a game with, at best, loose ties to Nintendo's past.

Still, this was a much stronger E3 than last year's pathetic performance. Galaxy 2 and Other M are at least something for the hardcore to chew on, while New SMB, Wii Fit +, and Wii Sports Resort are all great for their more casual audience. There might wind up being some crossover down the line.

Still, when you compare the sales of, say, Super Mario Galaxy and Twilight Princess to those of Wii Fit and Mario Kart, I don't know if there's a ton of transfer going on. Perhaps it's presumptuous of me to compare those games with some of the hottest titles of last year, but I think, for the forseeable future, those titles will be dwarfed in sales by their more accessible counterparts.

That isn't bad for Nintendo, but it doesn't earn customers in the manner you are implying. It's just a different way.

desmondsultanas

[QUOTE="murat8"]lol funny post. i dont think their doing it on purpose but it would be funny if it was their planLordQuorthon

Actually, they are. And they have been incredibly open about it. I guess the best way to hide a strategy is to talk about it all the time. Google "Birdmen and the casual fallacy" and read it, especially the quotes from Nintendo that the author uses.

Very good topic I think Nintendo have everything the casual and the hardcore audience and with New Super Mario Bros Wii and Super Mario Galaxy 2 announced they will sell alot.

This Leaves An Entire Generation Purely Nintendo Fodder! Are Sony and Microsoft Too Late!?

...this thread is part joke, part serious... yup. :D

kansasdude2009

"Your Biological and Technological Distinctiveness Has Been Added to Our Own".. Resistance is futile.

[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

[QUOTE="murat8"]lol funny post. i dont think their doing it on purpose but it would be funny if it was their planKungfuKitten

Actually, they are. And they have been incredibly open about it. I guess the best way to hide a strategy is to talk about it all the time. Google "Birdmen and the casual fallacy" and read it, especially the quotes from Nintendo that the author uses.

Honestly, if Sony and Microsoft were to launch their new peripherals without casual, bridge, and hardcore titles that gain a lot of success... I don't see how this could do anything to the market. :(

Not sure I really care anymore. If Sony and Microsoft take that route then hardcore pc gaming will takeover again. SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Not sure I really care anymore. If Sony and Microsoft take that route then hardcore pc gaming will takeover again. kansasdude2009

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Not sure I really care anymore. If Sony and Microsoft take that route then hardcore pc gaming will takeover again. kansasdude2009

Sony will pump out hardcore and casual titles. :D

jakehouston88

And still be in last place.

I kind of agree with the TC, and therefore i really don't like where gaming is going. I'm not going to quit anytime soon... but i just don't like it.

Honestly, if Sony and Microsoft were to launch their new peripherals without casual, bridge, and hardcore titles that gain a lot of success... I don't see how this could do anything to the market. :(

kansasdude2009

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

Honestly, if Sony and Microsoft were to launch their new peripherals without casual, bridge, and hardcore titles that gain a lot of success... I don't see how this could do anything to the market. :(

Tylendal

Has history taught you nothing? Casuals don't need to be tricked into hardcore titles.