Next Battlefield 3 Patch will Include Color Grading OFF Option!

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#1 Jebus213
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http://www.mordorhq.com/showthread.php?3318-BF3-Colour-Tweaker-what-the/page6&p=82357#post82357

There will be a console command for disabling the color grading entirely in the game included with the next PC game client update. We believe that turning it off gives no major competitive advantage/disadvantage. IRNV scope and a few others which turn the image into greyscale or greenscale don't work properly without color grading and will look real ugly. There will be no in-game UI for turning it on/off. We are unlikely to handle support questions and bug reports regarding stuff that happens when color grading is disabled. As for server settings: we are not currently planning to implement any new ones.

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#2 SaltyMeatballs
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1 year late.
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#3 TheGrudge13
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only on PC:(

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#4 Jebus213
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only on PC:(

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Don't you have the PC version?
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#5 TheGrudge13
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[QUOTE="TheGrudge13"]

only on PC:(

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Don't you have the PC version?

sadly no

after this i probably will

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#6 pelvist
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Personally I think those color grading off mods make the game look a lot worse.

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#7 homeboylizard
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Personally I think those color grading off mods make the game look a lot worse.

pelvist
Well, realmware was really good...sadly I stopped using it because there is a serious chance of PB banning you. I spent about 1 hour tweaking the settings on the B2K maps until I got that BF 2 look...it isn't hard at all.
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Bout damn time. Although some of the maps look worse with color grading off BUT this will allow modders and the FXAA injector to correct colours in their vanilla form rather than tweaking colours through a filter

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#9 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="pelvist"]

Personally I think those color grading off mods make the game look a lot worse.

homeboylizard
Well, realmware was really good...sadly I stopped using it because there is a serious chance of PB banning you. I spent about 1 hour tweaking the settings on the B2K maps until I got that BF 2 look...it isn't hard at all.

PB won't ban you... If it's running MD5tool check it will only kick you.
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#10 Jebus213
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Bout damn time. Although some of the maps look worse with color grading off BUT this will allow modders and the FXAA injector to correct colours in their vanilla form rather than tweaking colours through a filter

seanmcloughlin
People still use the FXAA injector?: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=368880 I use it to sharpen dat picture.
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#11 skrat_01
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I now have a reason to go back to BF3.
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#12 2scoopsofempty
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wow. now I can start playing bf3 again.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Bout damn time. Although some of the maps look worse with color grading off BUT this will allow modders and the FXAA injector to correct colours in their vanilla form rather than tweaking colours through a filter

Jebus213

People still use the FXAA injector?: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=368880 I use it to sharpen dat picture.

I still use it because of the sharpen (obviously) but I feel most maps still look better with the filter because when I removed them they looked silly and less realistic somehow. I can't explain it. So the FXAA injector is a great way to keep it and tweak the colours too without the game seeing you changed stuff and kicking you from rounds

Oh and my one is danoc's FXAA v1.25 performance

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#14 RR360DD
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Was the colour grading really that much of an issue?
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#15 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Was the colour grading really that much of an issue?RR360DD

If the game released with the filters and that was the first time we saw it, it would have been fine. But because the first time we saw the game in alpha it didn't have them it caused annoyance for fans. The game looked great in alpha and very realistic and then they added these silly filters than ruined the image a bit.

Then you had the images released showing the visual process before the filters were added and they looked great and for some reason the dilters were added and people didn't like it. Then mods that either colour corrected the image or removed the filter completely and colour corrected the image and fans loved it. So they pestered DICE about it showing them all the colour possibilities and how much better the game looked without it.

Other games have colour filters but you likely only play the game with those filters on and can't remove them or correct them so no one cares.

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#16 Bangerman15
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[QUOTE="TheGrudge13"]

only on PC:(

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Don't you have the PC version?

lol i know i looked at his sig and was like how can u not have a pc version with that good of a rig? XD but this is good news cuz we all know that generic ass color in every map blows
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#17 HaloinventedFPS
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This should have been in at launch on PC & Consoles.

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#18 PC_Otter
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It shouldn't have been so heavy in the first place, hence it wouldn't have been an issue.

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#19 tagyhag
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Haha they sound so bitter about including it.
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#20 Sushiglutton
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I like how he sounds a bit grumpy and butthurt about it :lol:.
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#21 Ninja-Hippo
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People seriously still play Battlefield 3?
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Sounds real grumpy about it.

Well, to be fair, I would too if I tried to create an aesthetic that no one liked.

Anyways, glad they are acknowledging it. Still couldn't care less about the game though

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#23 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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People seriously still play Battlefield 3?Ninja-Hippo

I hate when people say this about a game. Of course they still play it

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I just want a battle recorder.

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#25 dream431ca
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People seriously still play Battlefield 3?Ninja-Hippo

130 hours and still going strong.

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#26 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]People seriously still play Battlefield 3?dream431ca

130 hours and still going strong.

255 hours :P

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#27 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]People seriously still play Battlefield 3?seanmcloughlin

130 hours and still going strong.

255 hours :P

That-A-boy! ;)

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Sounds real grumpy about it.

Well, to be fair, I would too if I tried to create an aesthetic that no one liked.

Anyways, glad they are acknowledging it. Still couldn't care less about the game though

OB-47

Well, they could have saved the time by opening their eyes. If they had looked, they'd have realized how crappy that filter is. There's nothing realistic about everything being blue.

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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Sounds real grumpy about it.

Well, to be fair, I would too if I tried to create an aesthetic that no one liked.

Anyways, glad they are acknowledging it. Still couldn't care less about the game though

the_bi99man

Well, they could have saved the time by opening their eyes. If they had looked, they'd have realized how crappy that filter is. There's nothing realistic about everything being blue.

What's worse is that in the Alpha test the game didn't have it. Playing the alpha looked fricken great and had the colours bang on. Then they made some very very stupid changes between alpha and beta. They even removed little nice touches like the scopes reflecting and stuff like that.

The alpha version of BF3 is still the best looking version I think

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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Sounds real grumpy about it.

Well, to be fair, I would too if I tried to create an aesthetic that no one liked.

Anyways, glad they are acknowledging it. Still couldn't care less about the game though

the_bi99man

Well, they could have saved the time by opening their eyes. If they had looked, they'd have realized how crappy that filter is. There's nothing realistic about everything being blue.

I don't think realism was what they were trying to do, but they were attempting to differentiate themselves from the crowded modern FPS. At times, I kinda like the blue/white hue. It had a nice clean look to it.

But on other maps it looked awful.

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#31 Timstuff
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Am I wrong for thinking the game looks better with color grading turned on?
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Meh, uninstalled BF3 and Origin quite sometime ago. The game is simply a better experience on PS3, and even then it's still pretty crappy.

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#33 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Am I wrong for thinking the game looks better with color grading turned on?Timstuff

Not at all. On some maps it works great. I think it looks especialy great in the interior based levels

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Amazingly you have made a thread that is more irrelevant than the 007 Legends game. Congrats.
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Sounds real grumpy about it.

Well, to be fair, I would too if I tried to create an aesthetic that no one liked.

Anyways, glad they are acknowledging it. Still couldn't care less about the game though

the_bi99man

Well, they could have saved the time by opening their eyes. If they had looked, they'd have realized how crappy that filter is. There's nothing realistic about everything being blue.

I honestly think that it's partially a cultural thing. I remember when I played Gothic 4 (I didn't know how mediocre it was gonna be) that it had a built in color grading system with a slider. Middle was mute, or no bias. Left was American, which was oversaturated and bright colors, and right was European, which was a darker-blueish look.

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Meh, uninstalled BF3 and Origin quite sometime ago. The game is simply a better experience on PS3, and even then it's still pretty crappy.

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That's because you sucked at the PC version. You even proved that. The experience isn't better on PS3, it's just that you're horrible at the PC version.
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#37 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Sounds real grumpy about it.

Well, to be fair, I would too if I tried to create an aesthetic that no one liked.

Anyways, glad they are acknowledging it. Still couldn't care less about the game though

ChubbyGuy40

Well, they could have saved the time by opening their eyes. If they had looked, they'd have realized how crappy that filter is. There's nothing realistic about everything being blue.

I honestly think that it's partially a cultural thing. I remember when I played Gothic 4 (I didn't know how mediocre it was gonna be) that it had a built in color grading system with a slider. Middle was mute, or no bias. Left was American, which was oversaturated and bright colors, and right was European, which was a darker-blueish look.

The European one was the best, too bad the game wasn't all that great.
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Meh, uninstalled BF3 and Origin quite sometime ago. The game is simply a better experience on PS3, and even then it's still pretty crappy.

Pug-Nasty

Better experience lol. That's a straight up lie unless they did some massive patching, rebuilt the netcode kinda changes, since the last time I played.

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PC only? PC Only? PC ONLY!?

PC DOMINATION CONTINUES!@!!

Had to say it.

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Didnt people just get banned for modding these or no?

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Didnt people just get banned for modding these or no?

Bardock47

Don't know if anyone did but it was a threat to people who had modded the colours of the game. You could give yourself some crazy advantages over other players with those mods.

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Am I wrong for thinking the game looks better with color grading turned on?Timstuff
It depends.

Meh, uninstalled BF3 and Origin quite sometime ago. The game is simply a better experience on PS3, and even then it's still pretty crappy.

Pug-Nasty
It is not better on PS3.

Didnt people just get banned for modding these or no?

Bardock47
I modded it and never got caught.
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#43 Master_ShakeXXX
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Was the colour grading really that much of an issue?RR360DD

People are petty.

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#44 Jebus213
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Didnt people just get banned for modding these or no?

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NOBODY GOT BANNED FOR IT.
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#45 Jebus213
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Was the colour grading really that much of an issue?RR360DD
It's kinda hard to see ANYTHING in a video game when everything is tinted the same color...
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#46 R4gn4r0k
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Personally I think those color grading off mods make the game look a lot worse.

pelvist

I'm using the SweetFX mod, I'm not sure if that is a color grading mod or not, but it makes the colors and the overall game look far better.

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#47 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="pelvist"]

Personally I think those color grading off mods make the game look a lot worse.

R4gn4r0k

I'm using the SweetFX mod, I'm not sure if that is a color grading mod or not, but it makes the colors and the overall game look far better.

It's not a color grading mod. It doesn't remove it. Increasing the vibrancy actually increases the strength of the color grading. This is the tool: http://bf3.realmware.co.uk/colour-tweaker/ But it's only for the MP maps. You can change the light intensity and light color also. I was aiming for a Just Cause 2 look with this:
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#48 R4gn4r0k
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It's not a color grading mod. It doesn't remove it. Increasing the vibrancy actually increases the strength of the color grading. This is the tool: http://bf3.realmware.co.uk/colour-tweaker/ But it's only for the MP maps. You can change the light intensity and light color also. I was aiming for a Just Cause 2 look with this:Jebus213

The colors in my game may not look as vibrant but it's pretty close to that.

I like playing BF3 way more now with the SweetFX injector than I did before that.

I could show you a couple of screenshots but I haven't the faintest clue how to take pictures with origin or ingame in BF3 without using an outside program.

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#49 o0squishy0o
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I love how the forum is like "OH MAY GAWD U R TEH BEST", is that a sign of how desperately poor the community is for BF3 and how badly EA has treated them?

I mean the line of and I quote "We are unlikely to handle support questions and bug reports regarding stuff that happens when color grading is disabled" basically saying "We won't help if anything is broken when you disable colour grading, we have done the minimal effort to do this just to shut you up.".

Recently I have been playing UT3 quite a bit and to turn off what is effectively the colour grading/post procession there are 4 different settings for it. If they managed to do that, how can DICE not have a simple on or off button. Only reason why I think it is, is because they tweaked their texutres for the colour grade and thus without it, it looks arguably worse etc.

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#50 Jebus213
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Only reason why I think it is, is because they tweaked their texutres for the colour grade and thus without it, it looks arguably worse etc.o0squishy0o
Unreal Tournament is still relevant? I guess it just pains to people to even mess with the tweaker. Color grading wasn't the only issue. DICE even desaturated and darkened the game. With color grading:  Without color grading:  Tweaked to my personal preference(Added contrast, brightness):  Here's Karkand with the same settings(I think):  This was Karkand before.....: