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#1 shsonline
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I only had five choices in the poll but add your own in the post if you want.


PS. Wii supporters don't even really hype anything besides the games that already have a dedicated fanbase, I noticed.
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#2 BioShockOwnz
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I am putting my money on Lair.
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#3 Uptown
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based on that list...Lair looks the least convincing to me
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#4 Puckhog04
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Lair definitely. I just don't see the draw to that game.
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#5 SpruceCaboose
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Lair. Flying dragons don't seem to be mass-market appealing to me. Look at Eragon.
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#6 ColoradoKindBud
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I'm thinking Lair.  Only because there just haven't ever been any good dragon simulator games.  Panzer Dragoon Saga was the best IMO, but that was more of an action-RPG as opposed to an open world flight game like Lair.
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#7 cakeorrdeath
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In score or sales?
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#9 shsonline
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In score or sales?
cakeorrdeath


Scores.
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#10 cakeorrdeath
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Can't believe no one has said "No More Heroes."

It is a completely unknown quantity.
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#11 mmirza23
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Can't believe no one has said "No More Heroes."

It is a completely unknown quantity.
cakeorrdeath

Yeah I second that, I don't see that game doing well.

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#12 shsonline
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LOL @ the pranksters who voted for Mass Effect.
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#13 DireToad
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I voted for No More Heroes.

But IMO, it's a tie betweem that and Lair.
I didn't vote for Lair because at least it has graphics behind it.
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#14 Suyomizzle_
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Can't believe no one has said "No More Heroes."

It is a completely unknown quantity.
cakeorrdeath
No it's not. Made by the Killer7 team? And have you seen the trailers? It looks AWESOME.
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#15 avenger_dot
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Lair is 100% certain
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#17 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Can't believe no one has said "No More Heroes."

It is a completely unknown quantity.
Suyomizzle_
No it's not. Made by the Killer7 team? And have you seen the trailers? It looks AWESOME.



There is no gameplay in those trailers.
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#18 ironguitar
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Can't believe no one has said "No More Heroes."

It is a completely unknown quantity.
cakeorrdeath
I think people have high hopes for it. Killer 7 just had so much atmosphere, it's hard to describe. Either way, Suda is driving the hype more then anything. The same way bioware is driving the hype of mass effect, although to a greater extent.
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#19 alia999
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sony are putting 30 mil behind lair you know, but whatever, its gonna flop
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#20 reyad-u
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Can't believe no one has said "No More Heroes."

It is a completely unknown quantity.
Suyomizzle_
No it's not. Made by the Killer7 team? And have you seen the trailers? It looks AWESOME.

its not gameplay. but the game does have potential, lets see if reaches it.
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#21 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Can't believe no one has said "No More Heroes."

It is a completely unknown quantity.
Jandurin
Lair... just looks cheesy.



I agree Lair looks a bit limited too.

I'm kinda thinking so I fight some dragon burn some soldiers but what's gonna happen next?
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#22 LosDaddie
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Lair definitely
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#23 BioShockOwnz
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sony are putting 30 mil behind lair you know, but whatever, its gonna flopalia999
Money doesn't mean success. Remember how good Shenmue II sold in the states....and it costed a ton to develop at the time.
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#24 KzerXtreme
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Lair is the popular choice in this thread, I can't help but feel the same way. It's getting the hype since it's exclusive and is looked at as one of the games to jump start the PS3 in 07. There will be many great games on the PS3, Lair will probably not be one of them.  
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#25 Shirley_Temple
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No more heroes looks like a corny rip off of GTA with Killer 7 weirdness.  There's like 5 people in the world who want that combo.  And they're already in Prison.
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#27 blackace
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I'd have to agree with most people on here and go with Lair. I'd say "No More Heroes" would be a close 2nd. Even though Lair looks pretty good, I think the controls and gameplay are going to suffer especially using the Sixaxis feature to steer your dragon around. Another game that may flop is Too Human. I'm surprised that wasn't on the list.
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#29 TrueReligion_
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No More Heroes.
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#30 shsonline
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I'd have to agree with most people on here and go with Lair. I'd say "No More Heroes" would be a close 2nd. Even though Lair looks pretty good, I think the controls and gameplay are going to suffer especially using the Sixaxis feature to steer your dragon around. Another game that may flop is Too Human. I'm surprised that wasn't on the list. blackace


I only included the ones that are being hyped the most. No one is hyping Too Human, I mean no one.
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#31 -Spock-
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It's really hard to choose, they all have a lot of potential. I'm hoping Lair will be good in the end and am anticipating it since t's being made by Factor 5, the guys who did the 9.4 scoring Rogue Squadron II for GameCube. If they tidy up the few rough graphical edges and perfect the tilt controls, it could be a damn good game. They still have a few months of dev time left - look what that did to Gears of War and Motor Storm in the end.
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#32 DaysAirlines
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I don't know I haven't played any of those games yet.
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#33 dsmccracken
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I'm a little bit surprised that Blue Dragon wasn't an option on this list.
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#34 Shadow_of_Ico
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Whats with all this hate for Lair?  Flying Dragons game? That sounds like a fun time if you ask me.

Heavenly Sword is the most likely to flop since it looks like a God of War clone.

Lair is made by factor 5 and the last game they made got a 9.4.    The most likely to flop after that would be No More Heroes. Killer 7 was freaky and unique but the gameplay was horrid. It was on rails and had a terrible shooting interface. 

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I said Heavenly Sword because to me it looks like a rip off of God of War, the female main Character has the same exact weopon as Kratos so it doesn't look like anything new to me, it will probably get AA but it is hyped AAA by alot of Cows.
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#36 Sgt_Hale
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Lair. Flying dragons don't seem to be mass-market appealing to me. Look at Eragon.SpruceCaboose
Look at Drakengard. Coming from Factor 5, chances are that the game is not going to suck... and as long as it doesn't it's likely to sell pretty well. As far as floppage... I don't think there are many ppl hyping this game to be AAA as it is. But I do expect it to be AA.
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#37 Sgt_Hale
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I'm a little bit surprised that Blue Dragon wasn't an option on this list.dsmccracken
Agreed. That and that Sonata game look like good candidates for floppage to me.... better candidates than Mass Effect to be sure.
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#38 SpideR_CentS
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Motorstorm.
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#39 Shadow_of_Ico
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Lair. Flying dragons don't seem to be mass-market appealing to me. Look at Eragon.Sgt_Hale
Look at Drakengard. Coming from Factor 5, chances are that the game is not going to suck... and as long as it doesn't it's likely to sell pretty well. As far as floppage... I don't think there are many ppl hyping this game to be AAA as it is. But I do expect it to be AA.

I really don't get why everyones not looking forward to Lair.  I guess we'll have to wait for the scores to prove everyone wrong before they will admit that it looks pretty darn cool.

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#40 shsonline
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I'm a little bit surprised that Blue Dragon wasn't an option on this list.dsmccracken


A game that already has A and AA scores being a choice to flop on this list? I don't think so.
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#41 NeoStar9
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I have to go with Lair.
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#42 Sgt_Hale
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Lair. Flying dragons don't seem to be mass-market appealing to me. Look at Eragon.Shadow_of_Ico

Look at Drakengard. Coming from Factor 5, chances are that the game is not going to suck... and as long as it doesn't it's likely to sell pretty well. As far as floppage... I don't think there are many ppl hyping this game to be AAA as it is. But I do expect it to be AA.

I really don't get why everyones not looking forward to Lair.  I guess we'll have to wait for the scores to prove everyone wrong before they will admit that it looks pretty darn cool.

I think that most PS3 owners (and those that enjoyed those types of games on the PS2) are looking forward to it... but a lot of the ppl on this board prefer shooters ;-)
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#43 kage_53
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Too Human. It was downgraded at E306. Then last summer or fall there were reports that Silicon Knights was struggling using the UE3.
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#44 Film-Guy
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lair looks decent. mass efect flopping? i dont see that happening. Bioware know what they are doing, they have always made great games ( nobody bring up the jade empire score please, that game was severly onderrated, imo it deserved at least an 8.9) isnt heavenly sword made by the guys who made kung fu chaos? we all know how that turned out..... I know nothing about no more heroes however.
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#45 shsonline
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Too Human. It was downgraded at E306. Then last summer or fall there were reports that Silicon Knights was struggling using the UE3. kage_53


The games on the list are the ones being most hyped on this board. Too Human is not being hyped.
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#46 foxhound_fox
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Lair, easily. All the game has going for it is graphics... and even then...
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#47 laus_basic
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No More Heroes is my most anticipated game but I can see why some might doubt it:

Top notch story, artisitc style and characters is pretty much a given knowing what SUDA has done in the past, but gameplay is another story, however I'm hopeful the wiimote might finally make SUDA shine in that department. If the gameplay can be just as good as story, art and characters, then it's gonna be one fantastic game.

Back on topic, I'd say Lair

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#48 lzorro
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All of them have an equal chance of flopping
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#49 ganondorf_002
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:roll: my vote for Lair, Teh Fl0p 2:o:o7????
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#50 -Spock-
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Too Human. It was downgraded at E306. Then last summer or fall there were reports that Silicon Knights was struggling using the UE3. kage_53
Those 'reports' were dismissed as rumors by Silicon Knights themselves.