N64 has better Nintendo games than Wii? BULL

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#1 205212669269561485377169522720
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I've been seeing a lot of dumbasses around here throwing out how the N64 had better "Nintendo games" than the following consoles, mostly targeted towards the Wii. The sad part is that these quotes were coming from supposedly "sheep" people. So I want to ask, what makes the Nintendo games on the N64 better than the Wii titles Nintendo gave us? No I'm not talking about RARE, (since RARE was the reason the N64 was soooooo good, next to the 3 main Nintendo classics), and RARE is dead nowadays anyways, so NO OTHER CONSOLE, will ever get those amazing Rare games again.:(

But yeah, so what makes the N64 better? Let's see...

- Super Mario 64
- Mario Kart 64
- Star Fox 64
- F Zero X
- Paper Mario
- Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
- Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask
- Super Smash Bros- Kirby 64
- Usual Mario extra's (Party, Sports, whatever)

Hell, I'll throw in the RARE MADE Donkey Kong 64, since it's a Nintendo IP.:P

Now people are always complaining about the Wii not getting ANY love from Nintendo, core wise. Which is true, the Wii is/was prone to casual content and we got just as many long hauls of nothing from Nintendo on the Wii as well, (mid-2008 to 2009 anyone? Or heck, even this year:P). But saying that the Wii doesn't have better NINTENDO made games than the N64 or that it didn't get as many, is just simply wrong.

People say "NO STAR FOX! NO F ZERO! FAIIIIIIL!"

.... Did the N64 ever get a Metroid? Wii got 2 of them. Did the N64 get a 2D Mario? Wii got one, after nearly TWO DECADES. Did the Wii get a Donkey Kong Country? How about a decent Kirby game, or two? Lets not forget the amazing JRPG's that Nintendo released on the N64... oh nvm...:| OH and lets not forget Punch Out!! or Wario Land ehh??:lol:

The Wii got TWO MAIN Mario games, BOTH of which has a 97 METASCORE. One of the got a 10 here at GS and the other got a GOTY. The only downside here are a messed up Mario Kart, no Star Fox or F zero & no "from the ground up" Mario Tennis.

But then again, didn't Nintendo consider Star Fox and F Zero to be dead franchises to them? They did say if the 64 enhanced port didn't get enough sales on the 3DS, no more Star Fox.:o

- Super Mario Galaxy
- Super Mario Galaxy 2
- Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess
- Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword
- Super Paper Mario
- Donkey Kong Country Returns
- Metroid Prime 3 + Trilogy ( :o )
- Metroid Other M
- Kirby's Epic Yarn
- Kirby's Return to Dream Land
- Punch Out!!
- Super Smash Bros Brawl
- Mario Kart Wii
- Xenoblade
- WarioLand Shake It!
- New Mario Bros Wii
- Wii sh!t
- Usual Mario Extra's (Party, Strikers)

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Hell I'm not even counting sh!t like Excitebike or Truck or Wave Race, but if y'all wanna, go right ahead, like it makes a HUGE difference.:lol:

These people sicken me with their nostalgia. The Wii got a lot of support from Nintendo as it was one of the ONLY reasons to own a Wii, besides the gimmicks.:| I love Ocarina of Time and hell I love Star Fox 64, but Nintendo made better versions of practically all the N64 games THEY gave us, (not RARE) and they gave us more than what the N64 got, IP's it NEVER got.

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Not bashing the N64, but damn people, open your eyes and look at the games.:|

/TL;DR version: Wii has more and better Nintendo made games than the N64. :|

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#2 peterw007
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I agree.

The Wii has some absolutely fantastic 1st-party and 2nd-party games.

I've had more fun with the Wii than the Gamecube, the N64, or even the SNES that I had before it.

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Super Mario Galaxy 2 alone crushes everything the N64 had in terms of design and polish.
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#4 almasdeathchild
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Meh I enjoyed the n64 and my gamecube so much mor than I did the wii by far
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Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

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The Nintendo 64 had some of the best games ever made IMO...the WII has some of the best games ever made...honestly is a win-win for me :D

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#7 SilverChimera
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Mario 64 isn't even that good. Galaxy craps on it. Haven't played all of Twilight Princess yet but so far Im liking it as much as Ocarina. And Brawl definitely >>>> Smash 64. And Xeboblade looks pretty good too.
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Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

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:lol: Sure why not :lol:

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Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

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I LOVED Nintendo offering this gen. Its a shame many 3rd parties just brushed the Wii aside. But the games Nintendo made up alone was reason enough to own one. Some of the best games they have ever made.

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#11 205212669269561485377169522720
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Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

GD1551

Perfect Dark was by Nintendo? Even you can do better than that.:lol:

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#12 TrapJak
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Nah.... :|.

N64 stilll has better games.

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#13 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

Stevo_the_gamer

RE4 says hi. :]

RE4 isn't nintendo game.

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

sanim02

Perfect Dark was by Nintendo? Even you can do better than that.:lol:

They published it, which is good enough.

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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

GD1551

Perfect Dark was by Nintendo? Even you can do better than that.:lol:

They published it, which is good enough.

Was made by RARE. I'm talking about games made by Nintendo during the N64 era compared to what they gave us on the Wii. What they gave us this gen, just blows the stuff they gave us on the N64 away with a vaccum.

Nintendo was dependent on RARE during that gen, and it shows because the Wii has far more and better games, without the nostalgia glasses on of course.;)

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

madsnakehhh

:lol: Sure why not :lol:

Sure is, too bad nintendo didn't take the opportunity to get rare, them being cheapskates and all. It's not like rare didn't deliver 6 of the best selling games on the console. Oh well.

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#18 GD1551
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Was made by RARE. I'm talking about games made by Nintendo during the N64 era compared to what they gave us on the Wii. What they gave us this gen, just blows the stuff they gave us on the N64 away with a vaccum.

Nintendo was dependent on RARE during that gen, and it shows because the Wii has far more and better games, without the nostalgia glasses on of course.;)

sanim02

Nintendo is all about nostalgia, that's why people hype zelda 27 and mario 210 to the moon.

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#19 205212669269561485377169522720
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Nah.... :|.

N64 stilll has better games.

TrapJak

Your wrong brah.TheGuardian03

I like these responses and all, but it would be nice to get some objectivity in here.::D

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I LOVED Nintendo offering this gen. Its a shame many 3rd parties just brushed the Wii aside. But the games Nintendo made up alone was reason enough to own one. Some of the best games they have ever made.

DragonQuestHero

Totally agree with this. Wii's first party game lineup is completely amazing.

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#21 GD1551
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BTW your wii list is padded because

- Usual Mario Extra's (Party, Strikers)

^ also on the 64. Plus you left out stuff like pokemon stadium/snap.

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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Was made by RARE. I'm talking about games made by Nintendo during the N64 era compared to what they gave us on the Wii. What they gave us this gen, just blows the stuff they gave us on the N64 away with a vaccum.

Nintendo was dependent on RARE during that gen, and it shows because the Wii has far more and better games, without the nostalgia glasses on of course.;)

GD1551

Nintendo is all about nostalgia, that's why people hype zelda 27 and mario 210 to the moon.

Or maybe it's cause they are potential good games? You know, or maybe that IS a farfetch'd idea..:|

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Might as well take off Twilight Princess, since that's basically a gamecube game with waggle dumped on it for the wii version.

Also Paper Mario and Majora's Mask alone beat out anything on the Wii.

And just saying, when you factor in Rareware for the N64 it absolutely obliterates the Wii.

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Oh wow this is the first time I'm called a dumbass just because I like certain games more than others.

Oh wait!

It is not the first time. I forgot this is the internet. Sorry nothing to see here, move along.

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Was made by RARE. I'm talking about games made by Nintendo during the N64 era compared to what they gave us on the Wii. What they gave us this gen, just blows the stuff they gave us on the N64 away with a vaccum.

Nintendo was dependent on RARE during that gen, and it shows because the Wii has far more and better games, without the nostalgia glasses on of course.;)

sanim02

Nintendo is all about nostalgia, that's why people hype zelda 27 and mario 210 to the moon.

Or maybe it's cause they are potential good games? You know, or maybe that IS a farfetch'd idea..:|

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I still like ocarina of time, majora's mask, and the original super smash over anything on wii. Sue me. :)

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BTW your wii list is padded because

- Usual Mario Extra's (Party, Strikers)

^ also on the 64.

GD1551

I gave them out just so people don't start b!tchin' about it, but hey take them out if y'all really want to. I didn't bother with those Wavraces, Pilotwings and Excite whatever's afterall.:lol:

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.

GD1551

RE4 says hi. :]

RE4 isn't nintendo game.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

BTW your wii list is padded because

- Usual Mario Extra's (Party, Strikers)

^ also on the 64.

sanim02

I gave them out just so people don't start b!tchin' about it, but hey take them out if y'all really want to. I didn't bother with those Wavraces, Pilotwings and Excite whatever's afterall.:lol:

Wait, if you didn't put those in for the N64 why'd you list Punch out?

Plus man, you barely gave the N64 DK64 because it wasn't MADE by Nintendo, then you list a whole mess of games not made by Nintendo for the Wii.

Obvious bias is obvious, mayne. :P

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] RE4 says hi. :]Stevo_the_gamer

RE4 isn't nintendo game.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Then why mention it captain idiot?

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Well isn't that great? Cuz I do see a 10 somewhere in there too... Alas, maybe I need glasses or some sh!t.:lol:

sanim02

I see a 10 for the 64 as well.

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Then why mention it captain idiot?

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Because it's a better game than Perfect Dark; the context flew over your head like a 747.

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

BTW your wii list is padded because

- Usual Mario Extra's (Party, Strikers)

^ also on the 64.

sanim02

I gave them out just so people don't start b!tchin' about it, but hey take them out if y'all really want to. I didn't bother with those Wavraces, Pilotwings and Excite whatever's afterall.:lol:

Plus you left out stuff like pokemon stadium/snap.

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Might as well take off Twilight Princess, since that's basically a gamecube game with waggle dumped on it for the wii version.

Also Paper Mario and Majora's Mask alone beat out anything on the Wii.

And just saying, when you factor in Rareware for the N64 it absolutely obliterates the Wii.

theuncharted34

Really now? Two games? Alright then, because I can say the same as to how Galaxy 2 destroys anything on the N64 as well.:| Oh and Rareware? A second party studio that I made sure to disregard since they aren't Nintendo in the OP? Helps I guess since that's all what Nintendo really banked on during that console era anyways.:?

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Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.GD1551
With or without the Expansion Pak? Either way... it will still be a dated-looking, slow-as-molasses-framerate, single-analogue shooter that ended up better on XBLA. Only the thickest of rose-tinted glasses would make you think that of all N64 games is "better" than anything offered by Nintendo on the Wii.
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]Then why mention it captain idiot?

Stevo_the_gamer

Because it's a better game than Perfect Dark; the context flew over your head like a 747.

Apparently you didn't bother to read the OP at all, just don't bother defending your mistake.

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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Well isn't that great? Cuz I do see a 10 somewhere in there too... Alas, maybe I need glasses or some sh!t.:lol:

GD1551

I see a 10 for the 64 as well.

I also see a 9.5 and GOTY in the Wii selection too, but hey let's not count that as well.:)

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The impact made by those N64 games were higher, way higher than the impact of wii games Especially when you take into account competition.
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]Perfect dark is better than anything on wii.foxhound_fox
With or without the Expansion Pak? Either way... it will still be a dated-looking, slow-as-molasses-framerate, single-analogue shooter that ended up better on XBLA. Only the thickest of rose-tinted glasses would make you think that of all N64 games is "better" than anything offered by Nintendo on the Wii.

Saying anything plays or looks better than Galaxy 2 alone is just ridiculous, but then again, nostalgia is one strong drug among most "fanboys" I guess.:lol:

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]Then why mention it captain idiot?

GD1551

Because it's a better game than Perfect Dark; the context flew over your head like a 747.

Apparently you didn't bother to read the OP at all, just don't bother defending your mistake.

I did read the OP... I never made a mistake...
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The impact made by those N64 games were higher, way higher than the impact of wii games Especially when you take into account competition.Giancar

That's all nice Giancar, but would you rather play a seriously dated Mario 64, (which had a huge impact, no matter how much I dislike the game), or Galaxy 2, which was praised to the heavens, looks better, plays better, but doesn't have as big of an impact?:?

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Might as well take off Twilight Princess, since that's basically a gamecube game with waggle dumped on it for the wii version.

Also Paper Mario and Majora's Mask alone beat out anything on the Wii.

And just saying, when you factor in Rareware for the N64 it absolutely obliterates the Wii.

sanim02

Really now? Two games? Alright then, because I can say the same as to how Galaxy 2 destroys anything on the N64 as well.:| Oh and Rareware? A second party studio that I made sure to disregard since they aren't Nintendo in the OP? Helps I guess since that's all what Nintendo really banked on during that console era anyways.:?

Yeah, 2 absolute masterpieces.

Making a list of Nintendo only games only has the goal of making the N64's overall library look worse, anyways.

So yeah I brought up Rareware.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]The impact made by those N64 games were higher, way higher than the impact of wii games Especially when you take into account competition.sanim02

That's all nice Giancar, but would you rather play a seriously dated Mario 64, (which had a huge impact, no matter how much I dislike the game), or Galaxy 2, which was praised to the heavens, looks better, plays better, but doesn't have as big of an impact?:?

This is the logic I use when I see wii games vs HD console games.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]The impact made by those N64 games were higher, way higher than the impact of wii games Especially when you take into account competition.sanim02

That's all nice Giancar, but would you rather play a seriously dated Mario 64, (which had a huge impact, no matter how much I dislike the game), or Galaxy 2, which was praised to the heavens, looks better, plays better, but doesn't have as big of an impact?:?

in it´s time I enjoyed BK games way more than Galaxy games

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You forgot diddy kong racing that game owned

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]The impact made by those N64 games were higher, way higher than the impact of wii games Especially when you take into account competition.sanim02

That's all nice Giancar, but would you rather play a seriously dated Mario 64, (which had a huge impact, no matter how much I dislike the game), or Galaxy 2, which was praised to the heavens, looks better, plays better, but doesn't have as big of an impact?:?

We all play games that define generations sanim, that set standards, that made impacts to gaming. We. All. Play. Call of Duty and Wii Sports.
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#49 heeeeeeeeeweeee
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you forgot donkey kong country 64 which is better than wii's 2d piece of crap might aswell play one from 1994.

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#50 205212669269561485377169522720
Member since 2005 • 14458 Posts

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BTW your wii list is padded because

- Usual Mario Extra's (Party, Strikers)

^ also on the 64.

theuncharted34

I gave them out just so people don't start b!tchin' about it, but hey take them out if y'all really want to. I didn't bother with those Wavraces, Pilotwings and Excite whatever's afterall.:lol:

Wait, if you didn't put those in for the N64 why'd you list Punch out?

Plus man, you barely gave the N64 DK64 because it wasn't MADE by Nintendo, then you list a whole mess of games not made by Nintendo for the Wii.

Obvious bias is obvious, mayne. :P

Punch Out, aka an IP that was practically non-existant for the last what, nearly 2 decades? In that case, I should also remove F Zero since god knows what reason?

Also I said I wasn't going to name games by RARE since obvious RARE was the main GOD of the N64 and everyone clings to it when talking about how the "nintendo was teh best on teh 64!".:P Retro is owned by Nintendo anyways, but sure I still mentioned DK64, it's not like I completly flew over it, I just avoided to list it because it was by Rare.