Microsoft is going to be paying Sony royalties for the next Xbox.

I was thinking about the gamble Sony took by making Blu-ray standard on the PS3. It meant selling the system at a high price, but it gave Blu-ray the edge to become the standard HD disc. That means thatwhen the next generation comes Microsoft will be paying Sony Blu-ray royalties. It's kind of funny if you think about it.

No, M$ is using DVD again.-J/k.

M$ is paying for DVD royalties, which Sony is apart of. So this won't be any different, since Blu-Ray is not just Sony, but a Consortium.

Except Sony isn't the only company that is invested in Blu-Ray.II-FBIsniper-II

What makes you think they won't come up with a different format? Do you have a crystal ball?
I read a while ago about 500 gb DVDs. Who knows if MS will use them next gen but I find it very unlikely that MS will adopt BluRay as its game format. For those that want to read a little bit more about those 500 GB DVDs, click here.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Except Sony isn't the only company that is invested in Blu-Ray.freemultiplayer

And bluray uses MS codecs so therefore Sony is paying MS royalties on the PS3 already. You're point?AssassinFonce

Outside of consoles, these companies are not in direct competition. They have to pay royalties on everything, it's how business works. We'll see what Microsoft does when it comes to the 720.

I was thinking about the gamble Sony took by making Blu-ray standard on the PS3. It meant selling the system at a high price, but it gave Blu-ray the edge to become the standard HD disc. That means thatwhen the next generation comes Microsoft will be paying Sony Blu-ray royalties. It's kind of funny if you think about it.

freemultiplayer

Unless Microsoft comes out with their own superior format.MikeT072

lol @ people who dont know much, but still create threads about it. firstly, i think MS will retain the DVD next gen, but go the PC route and have a 500GB hard drive, and have them compressed like PC games. Not only will this save money, but they can really cut down on piracy if the install requires the disc like it currently does. They could also do checks online when you are connected to XBL. Secondly, Bluray uses MS's version of the VC-1 codec, so the BDA is already paying MS royalties for every disc made. And before someone tries to say that its alot of versions of the VC-1, while true, it says right on the official bluray website that it uses MICROSOFTS VERSION. :)

SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.

I'm sorry, Sony owns Blu-Ray?

I'm sorry, Sony owns Blu-Ray?

789shadow

unless they use this

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/01/ge-shows-off-1tb-holographic-discs-but-wolf-blitzer-remains-skep/

lol @ people who dont know much, but still create threads about it. firstly, i think MS will retain the DVD next gen, but go the PC route and have a 500GB hard drive, and have them compressed like PC games. Not only will this save money, but they can really cut down on piracy if the install requires the disc like it currently does. They could also do checks online when you are connected to XBL. Secondly, Bluray uses MS's version of the VC-1 codec, so the BDA is already paying MS royalties for every disc made. And before someone tries to say that its alot of versions of the VC-1, while true, it says right on the official bluray website that it uses MICROSOFTS VERSION. :)

SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.

navyguy21

[QUOTE="MikeT072"]Unless Microsoft comes out with their own superior format.mgs_freak91

First off learn some things, Microsoft didn't design ATI designed the GPU and IBM the Cpu Microsoft went to a 3rd party fabrication company to make the rest which was the problem they picked the wrong compay which is why we are where we are with reliability and 360....A disc format wouldn't be designed and created by microsoft.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

lol @ people who dont know much, but still create threads about it. firstly, i think MS will retain the DVD next gen, but go the PC route and have a 500GB hard drive, and have them compressed like PC games. Not only will this save money, but they can really cut down on piracy if the install requires the disc like it currently does. They could also do checks online when you are connected to XBL. Secondly, Bluray uses MS's version of the VC-1 codec, so the BDA is already paying MS royalties for every disc made. And before someone tries to say that its alot of versions of the VC-1, while true, it says right on the official bluray website that it uses MICROSOFTS VERSION. :)

SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.

micky4889

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

lol @ people who dont know much, but still create threads about it. firstly, i think MS will retain the DVD next gen, but go the PC route and have a 500GB hard drive, and have them compressed like PC games. Not only will this save money, but they can really cut down on piracy if the install requires the disc like it currently does. They could also do checks online when you are connected to XBL. Secondly, Bluray uses MS's version of the VC-1 codec, so the BDA is already paying MS royalties for every disc made. And before someone tries to say that its alot of versions of the VC-1, while true, it says right on the official bluray website that it uses MICROSOFTS VERSION. :)

SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.

micky4889

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

lol @ people who dont know much, but still create threads about it. firstly, i think MS will retain the DVD next gen, but go the PC route and have a 500GB hard drive, and have them compressed like PC games. Not only will this save money, but they can really cut down on piracy if the install requires the disc like it currently does. They could also do checks online when you are connected to XBL. Secondly, Bluray uses MS's version of the VC-1 codec, so the BDA is already paying MS royalties for every disc made. And before someone tries to say that its alot of versions of the VC-1, while true, it says right on the official bluray website that it uses MICROSOFTS VERSION. :)

SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.

WilliamRLBaker

Microsoft has 4 options next generation:

• DVD
• Blu-ray Disc
• Digital distribution only
• Holographic discs or some alternate new disc format

I have a feeling they'll do their own thing, just to try to one-up Sony next-gen instead of using an older format.

Xbox 720 games will be on VHS.Messiahbolical-

No, they will be on Beta-Max.

That way, the title is still right.

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

lol @ people who dont know much, but still create threads about it. firstly, i think MS will retain the DVD next gen, but go the PC route and have a 500GB hard drive, and have them compressed like PC games. Not only will this save money, but they can really cut down on piracy if the install requires the disc like it currently does. They could also do checks online when you are connected to XBL. Secondly, Bluray uses MS's version of the VC-1 codec, so the BDA is already paying MS royalties for every disc made. And before someone tries to say that its alot of versions of the VC-1, while true, it says right on the official bluray website that it uses MICROSOFTS VERSION. :)

SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.

navyguy21

Hahaha getting all defensive are we? I said "Just curious" as in i didn't know. Also that site you linked before you might want to go back and reread it because it lists all blu ray movies and the codecs they use

"MPEG 4 is no longer used at all, a" really ? whats this then? ReleasedSep 22, 2009 or this sep 29 2009or thisSep 29, 2009

Hell if you just go toNew releasesthe majority are in MPEG 4.

Edit: Also i knew the BDA were payingroyalties per player i wascurious about what you wrote "so the BDA is already paying MS royalties for every disc made." because it didn't make much sense that the BDA would be paying again when it's the movie studios that chose the codec.

the next xbox will be digital only quote me on itstereointegrity

lol so true, and its 1 terabyte HDD will be nice storage for the digital media...

Nope MS is distributing games via flash-drive and DD next gen ;)

They will obviously make their own format and call it green ray.

Edit: That's a serious answer by the way. Is Sony paying royalities for ripping off the Wiimote?

the next xbox will be digital only quote me on itstereointegrity

nah.... people aren't ready for that leap yet. I'd give it a couple generations or maybe 3

Unless Microsoft comes out with their own superior format.MikeT072

Like.....? That's what I thought.

Seriously, you think MS would spend Billions of dollars to develop a new format just for it's new console?

Why do people even think that there will be ANY disks next-gen?dgsag

I'm sorry, Sony owns Blu-Ray?

789shadow

yes they do the other companies involved are only investors, they have nothing to do with decision making

[QUOTE="MikeT072"]Unless Microsoft comes out with their own superior format.dream431ca

Like.....? That's what I thought.

Seriously, you think MS would spend Billions of dollars to develop a new format just for it's new console?

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="MikeT072"]Unless Microsoft comes out with their own superior format.navyguy21

Like.....? That's what I thought.

Seriously, you think MS would spend Billions of dollars to develop a new format just for it's new console?

Why would MS pickup HD-DVD? They tried that already and it failed. If MS would make a new format, it would have to be useful in everyday applications and not just one gaming console.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="MikeT072"]Unless Microsoft comes out with their own superior format.navyguy21

Like.....? That's what I thought.

Seriously, you think MS would spend Billions of dollars to develop a new format just for it's new console?

fixed your error.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Like.....? That's what I thought.

Seriously, you think MS would spend Billions of dollars to develop a new format just for it's new console?

dream431ca

Why would MS pickup HD-DVD? They tried that already and it failed. If MS would make a new format, it would have to be useful in everyday applications and not just one gaming console.

as long aswe arenot paying them , who really cares?

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Like.....? That's what I thought.

Seriously, you think MS would spend Billions of dollars to develop a new format just for it's new console?

Irick_cb

fixed your error.

http://www.physorg.com/news87584681.html

[QUOTE="dgsag"]Why do people even think that there will be ANY disks next-gen?dream431ca

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] It doesnt costs billions to improve on an existing one :P They could just use HDDVD right?? Its not like they will need bluray when HDDVD has about the same capacity :Pnavyguy21

Why would MS pickup HD-DVD? They tried that already and it failed. If MS would make a new format, it would have to be useful in everyday applications and not just one gaming console.

The harm is, MS won't make money off of it, so it's a useless investment and the original creator of HD-DVD (Toshiba) is already supporting Blu-ray. Plus if MS were to go it alone in supporting HD-DVD, NOBODY would support them because everyone now supports Blu-ray. Lets try to stay realistic here.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] It doesnt costs billions to improve on an existing one :P They could just use HDDVD right?? Its not like they will need bluray when HDDVD has about half the capacity :Pnavyguy21

fixed your error.

http://www.physorg.com/news87584681.html

Pioneer brings it on home.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

fixed your error.

Irick_cb

http://www.physorg.com/news87584681.html

Pioneer brings it on home.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Why would MS pickup HD-DVD? They tried that already and it failed. If MS would make a new format, it would have to be useful in everyday applications and not just one gaming console.

dream431ca

The harm is, MS won't make money off of it, so it's a useless investment and the original creator of HD-DVD (Toshiba) is already supporting Blu-ray. Plus if MS were to go it alone in supporting HD-DVD, NOBODY would support them because everyone now supports Blu-ray. Lets try to stay realistic here.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] Toshiba begs to differ :P

http://www.physorg.com/news87584681.html

navyguy21

Pioneer brings it on home.

:P

HD-DVD production disks at the moment are 15 gb per layer, blueray disks are 25.

In terms of data dencity it makes sense, the blueray laser is smaller then the HD-DVD, so it can read smaller pits.

However that drove up the cost of blueray lasers, but by the next console generation it should not be that persuasive of an issue to prevent it from being used _if_ it is determined the storage is needed. But if things take a turn for the casual side, it could easily be over-looked.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] lol, dude, sit back and try to listen. Microsoft had nothing to do with HDDVD, they merely SUPPORTED it, they had no horse in either race. They didnt use HDDVD in the console because they didnt know which would succeed. They make money off BOTH formats because the number one codec in the discs...................they own. So using HDDVD in the console hurts what if they only want storage?? And its compatible with DVD so whats the harm in it?navyguy21

The harm is, MS won't make money off of it, so it's a useless investment and the original creator of HD-DVD (Toshiba) is already supporting Blu-ray. Plus if MS were to go it alone in supporting HD-DVD, NOBODY would support them because everyone now supports Blu-ray. Lets try to stay realistic here.

UMDs were intended to become a new media standard.

They just ended up not having a market outside the PSP.

Sony lost money as a result.