MICROSOFT *already* positioning itself to snatch up Take-Two?! OH SNAP!

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#1 Dreams-Visions
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This just in...

Yesterday Take-Two revealed it was postponing the previously scheduled annual shareholders meeting to explore its options, one being a possible sale of the entire company. Today word has reached us through the grapevine by means of an inside source at Rockstar Vancouver, that "the buzz" in the hallways is that Microsoft might have put in a bid or expressed interest in purchasing the ailing publisher/developer. While this is a mere rumor, albeit from a reliable source, it is to be taken with a grain of salt. Just imagine the ramifications....

http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=41553&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

With Take-Two representing games like GTA, Elder Scrolls, 2k Sports games, BioShock and many more, would a move like this not only make the Devil May Cry issue seem insignificant, but almost totally tip the console war in Microsoft's favor?

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#2 magus-21
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Possible GTA exclusive on the 360? ZOMG!
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I think it would put Microsoft in a great situation... but I really cant believe this rumor stuff anymore haha believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear. and family guy ftw
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#4 tegovoltio
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So how is it that Take two shareholders/CEO is selling the whole company?
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#5 -Antisocial-
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I thought MS already said they wouldn't bid to take over Take-Two.
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if it happens and GTA becomes exclusive to 360 then yeah microsoft can tip the scale in there favor in a big way.
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No offense but who the hell is Worth playing and why are they even close to being a respectable source? :P
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Microsoft would buy your mother.
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#9 pins_basic
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If it was to happen, it would just about be GAME OVER.
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I thought MS already said they wouldn't bid to take over Take-Two.-Antisocial-
things change. Ask Capcom.
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No offense but who the hell is Worth playing and why are they even close to being a respectable source? :PMancow_wrestler
they're not the biggest site, but they're not Kotaku either.
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I thought MS already said they wouldn't bid to take over Take-Two.-Antisocial-
When did they say it ?
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Im a big X360 supporter, but if M$ buys Take-Two...The other systems are gonna be hurting & thats bad for gaming on a whole. There's so many sub-divisions of Take-Two, that make all these different types of games in different genres. I dont know man...2K is huge alone, with all their sports titles. I guess we'll soon find out *shrug*
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[QUOTE="-Antisocial-"]I thought MS already said they wouldn't bid to take over Take-Two.Dreams-Visions
things change. Ask Capcom.

 

True but I seriously doubt this would happen. Sony would blow the world up before they let that happen I think. Doesn't mean they will buy it but if MS is going after they will have to order hit man or something cause this is just way too huge of a deal if MS bought. Sony would like drop the price to $400 the next day just to have some damage control lol

Just too big IMO, wont happen 

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If MS gets GTA exclusive I'll be first to say that they'll easily win the console war.

I'd also get a 360 rather than PS3 later this year for GTAIV (I'm going to end up owning all 3). 

I don't think anyone will buy T2 though. We'll see what happens. 

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[QUOTE="-Antisocial-"]I thought MS already said they wouldn't bid to take over Take-Two.Felous1
When did they say it ?

 

One company that says it's not in the running is Microsoft (Charts). Because today's independent publishers are platform agnostic - that is to say, they build games for all major systems - taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360. "We could never launch an acquisition bid at a third party publisher," said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios.CNN

 

Quoted from here: http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/09/commentary/column_gaming/index.htm

Who knows? Maybe they've changed their minds already.

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Im a big X360 supporter, but if M$ buys Take-Two...The other systems are gonna be hurting & thats bad for gaming on a whole. There's so many sub-divisions of Take-Two, that make all these different types of games in different genres. I dont know man...2K is huge alone, with all their sports titles. I guess we'll soon find out *shrug*E M I N 3 M

 

If MS buys T2 it would be like when the WWE bought WCW and ruined wrestling from there on because they had a monopoly. Not the same thing exactly I know but getting T2 and GTA alone as an exclusive is massive 

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="-Antisocial-"]I thought MS already said they wouldn't bid to take over Take-Two.kcpp2b

things change. Ask Capcom.

 

True but I seriously doubt this would happen. Sony would blow the world up before they let that happen I think. Doesn't mean they will buy it but if MS is going after they will have to order hit man or something cause this is just way too huge of a deal if MS bought. Sony would like drop the price to $400 the next day just to have some damage control lol

Just too big IMO, wont happen 

fair. but "too big" is no longer a proper phrase to use in business. AT&T + Cingular. Sprint + Nextel. Dalhmer Benz + Chrysler. Big things happen all the time now.
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[QUOTE="E M I N 3 M"]Im a big X360 supporter, but if M$ buys Take-Two...The other systems are gonna be hurting & thats bad for gaming on a whole. There's so many sub-divisions of Take-Two, that make all these different types of games in different genres. I dont know man...2K is huge alone, with all their sports titles. I guess we'll soon find out *shrug*kcpp2b

 

If MS buys T2 it would be like when the WWE bought WCW and ruined wrestling from there on because they had a monopoly. Not the same thing exactly I know but getting T2 and GTA alone as an exclusive is massive 

meh. WCW was never on the WWF's level anyway. :P Macho Man Randy Savage > WCW :D
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This does not make any sense to me...at all.

If Microsoft does indeed go through with this, then they'll have to explain this to me:

 

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/09/commentary/column_gaming/?postversion=2007030911

One company that says it's not in the running is Microsoft (Charts). Because today's independent publishers are platform agnostic - that is to say, they build games for all major systems - taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360.

"We could never launch an acquisition bid at a third party publisher," said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios.

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This does not make any sense to me...at all.

If Microsoft does indeed go through with this, then they'll have to explain this to me:

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/09/commentary/column_gaming/?postversion=2007030911

One company that says it's not in the running is Microsoft (Charts). Because today's independent publishers are platform agnostic - that is to say, they build games for all major systems - taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360.

"We could never launch an acquisition bid at a third party publisher," said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios.

ToScA-

Bill told Shane to STFU and go pick up T2 for him.
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#22 Dreams-Visions
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This does not make any sense to me...at all.

If Microsoft does indeed go through with this, then they'll have to explain this to me:

 

http://money.cnn.com/2007/03/09/commentary/column_gaming/?postversion=2007030911

One company that says it's not in the running is Microsoft (Charts). Because today's independent publishers are platform agnostic - that is to say, they build games for all major systems - taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360.

"We could never launch an acquisition bid at a third party publisher," said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios.

ToScA-

great find. maybe it's a BS story? hmm....
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This would be a tremendous pick up for MS.  I don't know if I'd say it guarantees a victory in N.A., and Europe, but it sure has hell would put them in great position to be the market leader in both regions.  And the threads on here would be hilarious.
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taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360ToScA-
There's still PC.
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#25 Optusnet
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If it was to happen, it would just about be GAME OVER.pins_basic

GAME OVER to Sony? Maybe, but still up in the air. GAME OVER to console wars? **** no!

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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360Felous1
There's still PC.

 

I understand that but doing this would boost 360 sales a lot, like more then Halo 3. I mean they could also give Sony a timed exclusive deal where they get GTA or whatever games half a year later or a year later.

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#27 Optusnet
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360Felous1
There's still PC.

360? PC? They're both the same :P. Both noisy, both big in their own right, both deliver great online, both have almost the same library of titles, both share the same multiplats, both has a brand impossible to die off and both by MS.

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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]taking over one would result in a massive revenue loss for Microsoft, as all development would be redirected toward the Xbox 360Optusnet

There's still PC.

360? PC? They're both the same :P. Both noisy, both big in their own right, both deliver great online, both have almost the same library of titles, both share the same multiplats, both has a brand impossible to die off and both by MS.

fair.
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"Ubisoft, for instance, has made it known it would like to start a sports brand to compete with Electronic Arts" (---- Hmm I wonder which one would make the better sports games?
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I still doubt it will happen, but this would be one of the greatest ownages of all time if GTA was not on PS3. The cows are getting owned bad enough as it is!
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I'd Much rather Ubisoft buy em. Keep good third party games coming. Also it would be nice to see 2KSports with Ubisoft going head to head with EA Sports.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] fair. but "too big" is no longer a proper phrase to use in business. AT&T + Cingular. Sprint + Nextel. Dalhmer Benz + Chrysler. Big things happen all the time now.

Verizon as a company should probably be brought up on Anti-Trust violations, as should Microsoft, IBM (console CPUs), Walmart and several other high-profile companies probably including Sony. The problem is that legislation lacks enforcement at this point.
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MS hits weak point for MASSIVE damage!!!1!
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For everyone saying but MS said they would not do it. Why would a company let everyone know their plans when it comes down to a huge money buyout? I do not think they will though. Would it be worth it in long run that is a huge money gamble but then again not like MS does not have the money to do it
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BTW, regarding the OP I doubt the validity of this article or that any company would buy the entirety of Take-Two. IF Take-Two goes on sale its going to be divvied up among different companies. Among those you can be sure EA, Ubisoft, THQ, and Activision would all be involved in some way. Sony and Microsoft probably would too but I doubt either would outright buy the entire company, especially when Take-Two would most certainly get a better deal by selling the company in parts.
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I'd Much rather Ubisoft buy em. Keep good third party games coming. Also it would be nice to see 2KSports with Ubisoft going head to head with EA Sports.waynehead895
Cept EA owns 20% of Ubisoft, if Ubi gets 2K Sports EA might just go ahead and take another 31% chunk and get rid of 2K sports. Though Ubi picking up T2 would raise there price, I'm sure EA would still be able to pick them up.
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hmmm....does gta have something to do with take-two??? Because if it does and microsoft buys the company then ps3 fans better get ready to jump ship
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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] fair. but "too big" is no longer a proper phrase to use in business. AT&T + Cingular. Sprint + Nextel. Dalhmer Benz + Chrysler. Big things happen all the time now.

Verizon as a company should probably be brought up on Anti-Trust violations, as should Microsoft, IBM (console CPUs), Walmart and several other high-profile companies probably including Sony. The problem is that legislation lacks enforcement at this point.

the feds approved all of those mergers. anti-trust issues are moot in these cases.
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hmmm....does gta have something to do with take-two??? Because if it does and microsoft buys the company then ps3 fans better get ready to jump shipgokurocks2442
the owner of Take-Two has the rights to the GTA franchise, essentially.
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The way I see it is that Take2 as a whole is just to expensive for any company to buy outright. I'm guessing we'll see a lot of piecemeal deals going on as the developers are bought. Here are my guesses on who is bidding on what... MS - 2k, Bethesda, Rockstar Sony - 2k, Rockstar, Joytech Nintendo - Rockstar EA - 2k Sports Ubisoft - 2k, 2k Sports That's just my personal guess on the situation though. I could be completely wrong.
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]The way I see it is that Take2 as a whole is just to expensive for any company to buy outright. I'm guessing we'll see a lot of piecemeal deals going on as the developers are bought. Here are my guesses on who is bidding on what... MS - 2k, Bethesda, Rockstar Sony - 2k, Rockstar, Joytech Nintendo - Rockstar EA - 2k Sports Ubisoft - 2k, 2k Sports That's just my personal guess on the situation though. I could be completely wrong.

In such a situation, it wouldn't e a shock to see MS simply take majority control by purchasing the requisite number of shares.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] In such a situation, it wouldn't e a shock to see MS simply take majority control by purchasing the requisite number of shares.

Thing is...if theres a hint of such an attempt all other companies involved (at least Sony and Ubisoft) would probably mass-buy shares to prevent such an occurance.
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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] In such a situation, it wouldn't e a shock to see MS simply take majority control by purchasing the requisite number of shares.

Thing is...if theres a hint of such an attempt all other companies involved (at least Sony and Ubisoft) would probably mass-buy shares to prevent such an occurance.

Idunno...I guess we all might find out soon, huh?
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just like rare, it dsnt change anything. wii its going to be the market leader.
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I sure wouldn't mind that...
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just like rare, it dsnt change anything. wii its going to be the market leader. machitocaliente
i doubt that this would be a small thing. can you imagine MS with exclusive rights to the top-selling franchises last gen (GTA + Halo)? talk about system-sellers. :shock:
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[QUOTE="machitocaliente"]just like rare, it dsnt change anything. wii its going to be the market leader. Dreams-Visions
i doubt that this would be a small thing. can you imagine MS with exclusive rights to the top-selling franchises last gen (GTA + Halo)? talk about system-sellers. :shock:

I still can't imagine how many consoles they would sell if Microsoft makes this move. If they pushed 1.1M last Dec with Gears, imagine what GTA4 and H3 would do this X-mas. They would have NA locked with Gears 2 and GTA (City) for the future.
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="E M I N 3 M"]Im a big X360 supporter, but if M$ buys Take-Two...The other systems are gonna be hurting & thats bad for gaming on a whole. There's so many sub-divisions of Take-Two, that make all these different types of games in different genres. I dont know man...2K is huge alone, with all their sports titles. I guess we'll soon find out *shrug*Dreams-Visions

 

If MS buys T2 it would be like when the WWE bought WCW and ruined wrestling from there on because they had a monopoly. Not the same thing exactly I know but getting T2 and GTA alone as an exclusive is massive 

meh. WCW was never on the WWF's level anyway. :P Macho Man Randy Savage > WCW :D

WCW won the ratings war for almost a year and a half dude. WCW was wrestling long before WWWF dropped a letter off the front of it's name.
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Put it this way:  If Microsoft buys Take-Two, I'll quit playing video games.  Period.
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#50 Runningflame570
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Put it this way: If Microsoft buys Take-Two, I'll quit playing video games. Period.SergeantSnitch
Retro-gaming FTW!