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#1 fuzzysquash
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http://www.gamespot.com/news/6143247.html

"The Xbox 360's main appeal is high definition, but we couldn't successfully convey it [to the general public]," added Maruyama.

No, no, no, Mr. Maruyama.

The Japanese public knows what high-definition is. They just don't understand why high definition should be the key selling point for the 360, since the PS3 is also high-definition.

So...bad excuse, sorry.

Microsoft: "Buy me, buy me, buy me, pleeease. We'll make the premium bundle the equivalent of $50 cheaper in your country!"

Japanese consumer: "Umm...no thanks. Can you pass me another Big Mac, though?"

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#2 Bobakuzero
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720 any one?

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#3 p0g0theclown
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it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat
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#5 PeeEsPee
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Yeah, maybe some good games might be a better selling point then high defenition. 
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#6 fuzzysquash
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it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat p0g0theclown

slow start in Japan = defeat.

If the 360 sold much worse than the original Xbox did, and the Xbox ended up at 500,000 consoles sold in Japan at the end of this generation, how bad do you think Sony and Nintendo are going to crush Microsoft's precious Japanese market potential when those consoles launch?

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#7 HideoKojimaPS4
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720 any one?

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MicroFLop :lol:

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#8 Kruza
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[QUOTE="Iron-Dragon"] [QUOTE="p0g0theclown"]it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat

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#9 DarkPhoenix64
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ahahaha HD is overated. Sorry microsoft, maybe next time you'll think before releasing your next gen console half a year before your competitors with nothing but souped up shiny rofflebox graphics to impress.
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#10 Herrdoktor
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M$ is never going to take the Japanese market, I honestly don't even know why they bother.

The saddest part is that M$ spent countless amounts of money changing their image so it's appealing to the Japanese and they still failed.

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#11 Herrdoktor
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ahahaha HD is overated. Sorry microsoft, maybe next time you'll think before releasing your next gen console half a year before your competitors with nothing but souped up shiny rofflebox graphics to impress.DarkPhoenix64

:roll:

Whatever...when you finally buy an HDTV come back and say that.

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#12 Iron-Dragon
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[QUOTE="p0g0theclown"]it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat fuzzysquash

slow start in Japan = defeat.

If the 360 sold much worse than the original Xbox did, and the Xbox ended up at 500,000 consoles sold in Japan at the end of this generation, how bad do you think Sony and Nintendo are going to crush Microsoft's precious Japanese market potential when those consoles launch?


Whatever makes you happy.
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#13 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="p0g0theclown"]it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat Iron-Dragon

slow start in Japan = defeat.

If the 360 sold much worse than the original Xbox did, and the Xbox ended up at 500,000 consoles sold in Japan at the end of this generation, how bad do you think Sony and Nintendo are going to crush Microsoft's precious Japanese market potential when those consoles launch?


Whatever makes you happy.

Logical analysis by statistics makes me happy :D

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#14 dice85
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Microsoft corporate Vice President Scott Di Valerio gave a bit more data about the Xbox 360's performance with regards to Xbox Live. He said, "Since the launch of Xbox 360, Xbox Live members have downloaded over 4 million pieces of high-definition games, music and movie content from the Xbox Live Marketplace."

Let's break that down a little bit. Because this was a conference call to announce quarterly performance, we're assuming that these downloads were performed by the 1.5 million people who managed to score an Xbox 360 during the period. More accurately, the content was downloaded by the 50% of Xbox 360 owners who have connected to Xbox Live. This means that 750,000 people downloaded 4 million items, or a download rate of 5.33 Xbox Live Marketplace items per connected gamer.

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#15 Kruza
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[QUOTE="DarkPhoenix64"] ahahaha HD is overated. Sorry microsoft, maybe next time you'll think before releasing your next gen console half a year before your competitors with nothing but souped up shiny rofflebox graphics to impress.Herrdoktor

:roll:

Whatever...when you finally buy an HDTV come back and say that.

lol HD is over rated. Like he said^^ You wouldn't say that if you had one.
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#16 Bad--Robot
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it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat p0g0theclown
DS started slow , and PSP outsold it for about 3 months and now its selling double the PSP
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#17 skixwolf
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haha fuzzysquash cant read
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#18 Kruza
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haha fuzzysquash cant readskixwolf
Fanboys are blind.
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#19 Herrdoktor
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[QUOTE="p0g0theclown"]it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat Bad--Robot
DS started slow , and PSP outsold it for about 3 months and now its selling double the PSP

Both are Japanese companies.

That's a moot example.

The Japanese are very biased towards western electronics companies.

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#20 mtron32
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ahahaha HD is overated. Sorry microsoft, maybe next time you'll think before releasing your next gen console half a year before your competitors with nothing but souped up shiny rofflebox graphics to impress.DarkPhoenix64
lol, dude, I have a 60 inch HDTV and its beautiful. The picture is crisp and clear and the colors are bright and vibrant. Have fun with your regular fuzzy tube.
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#21 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="skixwolf"]haha fuzzysquash cant readKruza
Fanboys are blind.

:lol:

I'm pretty sure fuzzysquash can read okay.

Fuzzysquash is a double major in Political Science and Philosophy at the University of Washington.

He just likes to put a little "spin" on the title to keep things interesting.

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#22 skixwolf
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[QUOTE="Kruza"][QUOTE="skixwolf"]haha fuzzysquash cant readfuzzysquash

Fanboys are blind.

:lol:

I'm pretty sure fuzzysquash can read okay.

Fuzzysquash is a double major in Political Science and Philosophy at the University of Washington.

He just likes to put a little "spin" on the title to keep things interesting.



spin or lie?
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#23 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="Kruza"][QUOTE="skixwolf"]haha fuzzysquash cant readskixwolf

Fanboys are blind.

:lol:

I'm pretty sure fuzzysquash can read okay.

Fuzzysquash is a double major in Political Science and Philosophy at the University of Washington.

He just likes to put a little "spin" on the title to keep things interesting.



spin or lie?

Well, Microsoft can't be defeated when its next gen competition isn't out yet.

But if the original Xbox got trounced in Japan this gen, and the 360 is doing worse than its predecessor, can you imagine how bad it will be crushed when the competing platforms launch?

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#24 skektek
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[QUOTE="p0g0theclown"]it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat Bad--Robot
DS started slow , and PSP outsold it for about 3 months and now its selling double the PSP


The Xbox 360 only sold 3,600 units last week, down 40% from the previous week. It was outsold by the 5 year old Gamecube. And this is the same week that eNCHANT arM (much heralded by Lemmings) was released. That isn't a slow start that is a grinding halt.
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#25 omarguy01
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it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat p0g0theclown
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#26 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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M$ is never going to take the Japanese market, I honestly don't even know why they bother.

The saddest part is that M$ spent countless amounts of money changing their image so it's appealing to the Japanese and they still failed.

Herrdoktor

Indeed, seriously.

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#27 skixwolf
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[QUOTE="skixwolf"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="Kruza"][QUOTE="skixwolf"]haha fuzzysquash cant readfuzzysquash

Fanboys are blind.

:lol:

I'm pretty sure fuzzysquash can read okay.

Fuzzysquash is a double major in Political Science and Philosophy at the University of Washington.

He just likes to put a little "spin" on the title to keep things interesting.



spin or lie?

Well, Microsoft can't be defeated when its next gen competition isn't out yet.

But if the original Xbox got trounced in Japan this gen, and the 360 is doing worse than its predecessor, can you imagine how bad it will be crushed when the competing platforms launch?



So what you are saying is you lied?
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#28 Sagacious_Tien
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There is nothing to state that M$ have admitted defeat. I'm sorry, it required you to read the article....
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#29 Kruza
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[QUOTE="Kruza"][QUOTE="skixwolf"]haha fuzzysquash cant readfuzzysquash

Fanboys are blind.

:lol:

I'm pretty sure fuzzysquash can read okay.

Fuzzysquash is a double major in Political Science and Philosophy at the University of Washington.

He just likes to put a little "spin" on the title to keep things interesting.

1. I dont care about your education experience(shows how one is insecure about what they are discussing) 2. Admitting defeat is throwing in the towel, which isn't the case.
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#30 jeaglegs
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Yep.  Boring HD games are still just boring games.
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#31 Herrdoktor
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There is nothing to state that M$ have admitted defeat. I'm sorry, it required you to read the article.... Sagacious_Tien

M$ will never admit defeat even if they are selling 500 units a week.

Simple observation of the facts shows that M$ is hurting in the Japanese market.

The problem is that M$ can get very bullish about a market that do not dominate and they will continue to pour unnecessary amounts of money into Japan when they should just solidify their gains in the E.U and N.A.

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#32 Bobakuzero
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[QUOTE="Bobakuzero"]

720 any one?

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MicroFLop :lol:

:lol:... wait some one took me seriously? :|
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#33 trick_man01
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They didn't admit defeat, they just said they didn't hit the market as powerfully as they wanted to.
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#34 viciousnip
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Maruyama previously said that they were hoping to sell 1million units in Japan by summer because it would make developing for the xbox360 easier for the developers. 

Doesn't look good for xbox in japan... again. 

But what did you expect with only 6 launch games, 12 backwards compatibility games, no RPGs, and your best selling fighter delayed.

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#35 Silencer786
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[QUOTE="Iron-Dragon"] [QUOTE="p0g0theclown"]it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat

cows like twisting the words
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#36 streetridaz
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yeah lol. Thats no where near stating defeat. Japan market is much different. If you've noticed. They aren't into the fps and shooter games like we are so ms needs more strategy, platform, role playing  and racing games. Thats what the japan market likes and thats what there going to do.
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#37 xoverkillx
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[QUOTE="p0g0theclown"]it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat

\ \ Ya those fanboys trying to make people beleve LIES
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#38 DarkPhoenix64
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[QUOTE="DarkPhoenix64"] ahahaha HD is overated. Sorry microsoft, maybe next time you'll think before releasing your next gen console half a year before your competitors with nothing but souped up shiny rofflebox graphics to impress.Herrdoktor

:roll:

Whatever...when you finally buy an HDTV come back and say that.

My uncle bought one. He also bought a 360. And frankly i cant see what all the big hoo haa is about. 360 games are that impressive to look at. If i want to look at ultra sharp resolutions i'll get a pc game and upgrade my PC.

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#39 knifeyspooneyDS
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Microsoft can afford not to do well here and there, they are the riches company that m,akes consoles. they can afford all this kinda stuff and they won't be defeated because of there massive software OS windows so they will always be extremely rich
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#40 Herrdoktor
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[QUOTE="Herrdoktor"]

[QUOTE="DarkPhoenix64"] ahahaha HD is overated. Sorry microsoft, maybe next time you'll think before releasing your next gen console half a year before your competitors with nothing but souped up shiny rofflebox graphics to impress.DarkPhoenix64

:roll:

Whatever...when you finally buy an HDTV come back and say that.

My uncle bought one. He also bought a 360. And frankly i cant see what all the big hoo haa is about. 360 games are that impressive to look at. If i want to look at ultra sharp resolutions i'll get a pc game and upgrade my PC.

360 games aren't the best example of the HD format.

I was unimpressed by the PGR, etc too.

HD looks the best with tv shows like Discovery HD or watching football in HD.

There is no comparison between HD and regular broadcasts.

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#41 GunslingerMan
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Maruyama previously said that they were hoping to sell 1million units in Japan by summer because it would make developing for the xbox360 easier for the developers.

Doesn't look good for xbox in japan... again.

But what did you expect with only 6 launch games, 12 backwards compatibility games, no RPGs, and your best selling fighter delayed.

viciousnip
to bad enchantflop was released there already and it din't help the 360 a bit .
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#42 k04sm02
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ahahaha HD is overated. Sorry microsoft, maybe next time you'll think before releasing your next gen console half a year before your competitors with nothing but souped up shiny rofflebox graphics to impress.DarkPhoenix64
do you even own a 50 inch plasma? cause if you dont play in HD, dont make stupid ass judgements.
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#43 dbzfreak
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[QUOTE="Iron-Dragon"] [QUOTE="p0g0theclown"]it admits to a slow start in japan, not defeat Silencer786

cows like twisting the words

:| Just like lemmings, hermits, sheep...mainly all fanboys.

Any ways I don't ever see M$ taking over the Japanese market or even making a dent for that matter. As some one stated earlier, the Japanese are very biased against most US companies.

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#44 lazy8um87
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WTF
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#45 adriancostin83
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if 360 can take US it's all good

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#46 jg4xchamp
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Wow fuzzy that was about the most fanboysih statements i have ever heard from you before. what changed in the last year and a half.
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#47 TheDarkDisciple
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WTFlazy8um87

man wtf u doing? :D

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#48 MrDziekuje
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Here's a news flash. MS is never going to win Japan. NEVER.
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#49 Lyude77
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Wow fuzzy that was about the most fanboysih statements i have ever heard from you before. what changed in the last year and a half. jg4xchamp
This post was madearound January, if you didn't notice. I'd say it's true though...
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#50 rocafelon1001
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Funny, Sonyboys bash MS to settle for second place.