Mario is the most overrated franchise!!!

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#1 alskdjfhg1
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I love nintendo, but they are leaching mario like crazy, the franchise has been going down hill since SMW.
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#2 BattleTurtles
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Not really.
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#3 Silverbond
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That's exactly why SMG won GOTY 2007.

Here's some scores.

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#4 BioShockOwnz
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Hell no! SMG is a masterpiece. Such a polished and near perfect 3D platformer. Genius level design.

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#5 Pices
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And isn't First Person Shootersuch an overrated genre?

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#6 Lionheart08
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I know right, The Paper Mario series, Mario & Luigi Trilogy,Super Mario 64, NSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy were such horrible abominations. :roll:

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#7 Jamisonia
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I don't think you're right about this. Mario is the flagship franchise, and Nintendo has been doing an amazing job keeping it new and fresh.

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#8 topgunmv
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Your argument is almost as compelling as your name, alskdjfhg1.

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#9 Jamisonia
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I know right, The Paper Mario series, Mario & Luigi Trilogy,Super Mario 64, NSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy were such horrible abominations. :roll:

Lionheart08

If by horrible abomnations you mean awesome awarding winning games, then I agree.

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I know right, The Paper Mario series, Mario & Luigi Trilogy,Super Mario 64, NSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy were such horrible abominations. :roll:

Lionheart08
I don't like how you skipped Super Mario Sunshine :(
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#11 ratchet_usa
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LOL at sheep pretending the mario franchise is still revelant.
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#12 Silverbond
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LOL at sheep pretending the mario franchise is still revelant.ratchet_usa

Except the Mario franchise is relevant.

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#14 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]LOL at sheep pretending the mario franchise is still revelant.alskdjfhg1

Except the Mario franchise is relevant.

For quick cash.

Nah. It offers some quality gaming.

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#15 alskdjfhg1
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[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Except the Mario franchise is relevant.

Silverbond

For quick cash.

Nah. It offers some quality gaming.

For the nes/snes era yes i agree, but now they are going crazy, kind of reminds me of SEGA with sonic. Although i personally think nintendo leaches mario more than sega does with sonic.
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#16 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] For quick cash. alskdjfhg1

Nah. It offers some quality gaming.

For the nes/snes era yes i agree, but now they are going crazy, kind of how reminds me of SEGA with sonic. Although i personally think nintendo leaches mario more than sega does.

You're talking about the spin-offs. I'm talking about the main series.

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#18 Silverbond
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Mario needs to die, just ilke every other 10 year old Nintendo Franchise. They need some new Ip's and fast.

Stringerboy

Why does need to die if it's still good?

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#19 topgunmv
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Mario needs to die, just ilke every other 10 year old Nintendo Franchise. They need some new Ip's and fast.

Stringerboy

....Mario is almost 30.

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#20 alskdjfhg1
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Mario needs to die, just ilke every other 10 year old Nintendo Franchise. They need some new Ip's and fast.

Stringerboy
I do not think mario needs to die, but they should let him rest for a while.
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#21 PRT-CCM
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I know right, The Paper Mario series, Mario & Luigi Trilogy,Super Mario 64, NSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy were such horrible abominations. :roll:

Lionheart08

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

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Mario needs to die, just ilke every other 10 year old Nintendo Franchise. They need some new Ip's and fast.

Stringerboy

I agree that they should get some new IPs, but why would you want them to kill their old franchises off? I actually think it is amazing that they have been able to keep Mario, Zelda, and Metroid fresh and relevant even after all of these years. That's not something most companies can claim.

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#23 bowser3
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]LOL at sheep pretending the mario franchise is still revelant.alskdjfhg1

Except the Mario franchise is relevant.

For quick cash.

And quality games that almost 90% of the time get AAA scores.

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#24 mitu123
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No, there are others, like Gran Turismo.

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[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Mario needs to die, just ilke every other 10 year old Nintendo Franchise. They need some new Ip's and fast.

shoryuken_

I agree that they should get some new IPs, but why would you want them to kill their old franchises off? I actually think it is amazing that they have been able to keep Mario, Zelda, and Metroid fresh and relevant even after all of these years. That's not something most companies can claim.

Fresh?!?! That is a joke, right?
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

I know right, The Paper Mario series, Mario & Luigi Trilogy,Super Mario 64, NSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy were such horrible abominations. :roll:

PRT-CCM

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.
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[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Except the Mario franchise is relevant.

bowser3

For quick cash.

And quality games that almost 90% of the time get AAA scores.

Review sites do not want to anger the fanboys, now do they? Be serious here...
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#28 ratchet_usa
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] For quick cash. alskdjfhg1

Nah. It offers some quality gaming.

For the nes/snes era yes i agree, but now they are going crazy, kind of reminds me of SEGA with sonic. Although i personally think nintendo leaches mario more than sega does with sonic.

Well Sega did manage something that nintendo has always fail to deliver and it is to create a good 3D Patformer, Sonic for dreamcast was a masterpiece the best Sonic game ever made, the same can't be said about nintendo since tne mario series turned 3D the games have been complete trash.
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[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

I know right, The Paper Mario series, Mario & Luigi Trilogy,Super Mario 64, NSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy were such horrible abominations. :roll:

BattleTurtles

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.

Mario Party and all its sequels.
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[QUOTE="bowser3"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] For quick cash. alskdjfhg1

And quality games that almost 90% of the time get AAA scores.

Review sites do not want to anger the fanboys, now do they? Be serious here...

Sonic the Hedgehog 2006. If you're going to use a joke as an arguement, use a good one, please.
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Fresh?!?! That is a joke, right? alskdjfhg1

No, I'm being very serious. If you actually played the newer games, you would see that they all play very differently or introduce new aspects that change everything (such as gravity and circular worlds in SMG and multiplayer in NSMBWii)

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#32 BattleTurtles
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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"]

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

DarkLink77

Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.

Mario Party and all its sequels.

Not only is Mario Party not bad, it isn't made by Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

DarkLink77

Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.

Mario Party and all its sequels.

The key word was made by Nintendo. Last time I checked, Hudson is not Nintendo.

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#34 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

DarkLink77

Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.

Mario Party and all its sequels.

Cool. But how about the main series?

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#35 DarkLink77
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\ [QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="BattleTurtles"] Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.BattleTurtles

Mario Party and all its sequels.

Not only is Mario Party not bad, it isn't made by Nintendo.

It is pretty awful, but you're right. My bad.
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#36 alskdjfhg1
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[QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

I know right, The Paper Mario series, Mario & Luigi Trilogy,Super Mario 64, NSMB, and Super Mario Galaxy were such horrible abominations. :roll:

BattleTurtles

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.

Super Mario 64,Super Mario Sunshine,New Super mario Bros,SMG and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games are very mediocre at best.
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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

alskdjfhg1

Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.

Super Mario 64,Super Mario Sunshine,New Super mario Bros,SMG and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games are very mediocre at best.

I was about to begin naming them, but the ownage was already delivered, it seems.

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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="PRT-CCM"]

Congratulations, you mentioned 5 Mario games, out of over-200!

:lol:

alskdjfhg1

Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.

Super Mario 64,Super Mario Sunshine,New Super mario Bros,SMG and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games are very mediocre at best.

The only one you could consider mediocre is the last one.

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Mario needs to die, just ilke every other 10 year old Nintendo Franchise. They need some new Ip's and fast.

Stringerboy

agreed mario this , mario that, mario everywhere... and the sheep all are fine with it... it seems just like halo for the lems if it has mario in it they will buy it.... i lost interest after the snes which was the last nintendo console i really loved. Great 3rd party support .... than that went to the PlayStation after that and they brought adult focused cinematic games and loads and loads of RPGS... and thats where i went! been there and pc ever since... tried the wii and owned it for a year it got played for the first month and then never again...sold it for ps3 games.... true story...lol.

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#40 BattleTurtles
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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"]

\ [QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Mario Party and all its sequels.DarkLink77

Not only is Mario Party not bad, it isn't made by Nintendo.

It is pretty awful, but you're right. My bad.

The first 3 were pretty good, I haven't played the others.
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#41 randomwiiplayer
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since tne mario series turned 3D the games have been complete trash. ratchet_usa

The spin offs, yes, but the main series games are excellent. One was revolutionary, one was just plain awesome, and the other won 2007 GOTY. They are all great.

And while I agree that Mario is very overrated, I can't say it is the most overrated. Halo, COD, and other beat it out. They are all great, but not as great as what people say.

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#42 alskdjfhg1
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[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Mario needs to die, just ilke every other 10 year old Nintendo Franchise. They need some new Ip's and fast.

Midnightshade29
agreed mario this , mario that, mario everywhere... and the sheep all are fine with it... it seems just like halo for the lems if it has mario in it they will buy it.... i lost interest after the snes which was the last nintendo console i really loved. Great 3rd party support .... than that went to the PlayStation after that along with marketing and they brought adult focused cinematic games... and thats where i went! been there and pc ever since... tried the wii and owned it for a year it got played for the first month and then never again...sold it for ps3 games.... true story...lol.

Finally someone agrees with me that snes was nintendo's last great console(one of my all time favorites).
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#43 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"][QUOTE="BattleTurtles"] Ok, then. Name 5 bad Mario games made by Nintendo.PRT-CCM

Super Mario 64,Super Mario Sunshine,New Super mario Bros,SMG and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games are very mediocre at best.

I was about to begin naming them, but the ownage was already delivered, it seems.

Except only one of those is mediocre. :|

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Super Mario 64,Super Mario Sunshine,New Super mario Bros,SMG and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games are very mediocre at best.alskdjfhg1

I'm going to stop you right there.

Super Mario 64 made a successful transition from 2D to 3D (something that Sonic still hasn't been able to do) and defined how platformers would work in 3D. Super Mario Sunshine, introduced the water cannon thing and is currently AAA on Gamerankings. NSMB created an interesting fusion of 2D and 3D and was the first sidescrolling Mario game in years. SMG is the highest rated game this gen and won GOTY from a number of sites, including this one.

I also can't believe you mentioned Mario and Sonic, that's not even part of the main series.

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#45 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="BattleTurtles"] Not only is Mario Party not bad, it isn't made by Nintendo.

BattleTurtles

It is pretty awful, but you're right. My bad.

The first 3 were pretty good, I haven't played the others.

Well, I suppose the first three were pretty good, now that I think back on it. But it's gone downhill significantly since then.

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[QUOTE="bowser3"]

[QUOTE="alskdjfhg1"] For quick cash. alskdjfhg1

And quality games that almost 90% of the time get AAA scores.

Review sites do not want to anger the fanboys, now do they? Be serious here...

I was being serious, you dont just read the reviews, you go and play the actual games and guess what? They turn out to be great. Thats why mario games continue to sell like crazy. If the games were bad mario wouldve died a long time ago.

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[QUOTE="ratchet_usa"]since tne mario series turned 3D the games have been complete trash. randomwiiplayer

The spin offs, yes, but the main series games are excellent. One was revolutionary, one was just plain awesome, and the other won 2007 GOTY. They are all great.

And while I agree that Mario is very overrated, I can't say it is the most overrated. Halo, COD, and other beat it out. They are all great, but not as great as what people say.

I can't think of one bad Nintendo made spinoff.
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#48 Silverbond
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agreed mario this , mario that, mario everywhere... and the sheep all are fine with it... it seems just like halo for the lems if it has mario in it they will buy it.....Midnightshade29

Just like Cows for MGS amirite?

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#49 Arbiterisl33t69
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And isn't First Person Shootersuch an overrated genre?

Pices

I applaud you for the most original comeback ever.

I don't agree with TC, hell, the main Mario games have always been amazing (one of my fav games of all time is Paper Mario 2) but seriously, sheep like Pices can think of a better comeback than comparing Nintendo franchises to the FPS genre.

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#50 shoryuken_
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agreed mario this , mario that, mario everywhere... and the sheep all are fine with it... it seems just like halo for the lems if it has mario in it they will buy it.... i lost interest after the snes which was the last nintendo console i really loved. Great 3rd party support .... than that went to the PlayStation after that and they brought adult focused cinematic games and loads and loads of RPGS... and thats where i went! been there and pc ever since... tried the wii and owned it for a year it got played for the first month and then never again...sold it for ps3 games.... true story...lol.

Midnightshade29

You should write a book. :roll: