Lightning may appear in future Final Fantasy titles

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#1 Edited by Sweenix (5113 posts) -

LOL! http://www.siliconera.com/2014/02/14/lightnings-story-truly-may-guest-future-final-fantasy/

For Lightning, her story ends here in Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, as this game is meant as a finale to this series. But we know that Lightning is an extremely popular character, even when compared to other Final Fantasy characters.

So there is a possibility that Lightning would appear in other future Final Fantasy titles, not as a protagonist, but as a guest character.

#2 Edited by WallofTruth (696 posts) -

What. The. Freck.

No one likes her!

#3 Posted by silversix_ (12562 posts) -

Why are they ruining games by spamming this character? Some nerds want porn with her so make dat crap instead of making the next FF yet another clothing simulator./

#4 Posted by blamix99 (1332 posts) -

no way.. i don't care if she shows up in kingdom hearts 3 but i don't want to see her face in another Final Fantasy.

#5 Edited by Shewgenja (6929 posts) -

I'll abandon the series. Fuck it. It's not like it's Squaresoft anymore, anyways. Fucking hate that cunt! Fucking hate what they did with the games this past gen. REALLY hate Square-Enix these days. They're a bunch of trolls.

#6 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (11099 posts) -

No, fuck no! no no no no no no.

Let her die, burn that bitch, stop doing these stupid series crossovers, she's not a damn cactuar, she has zero fucking redeeming qualities and the personality of a plank of wood.

This you square! Running and going nowhere! you damned idiots. They keep this up and FF will never recover.

#7 Posted by Ballroompirate (20641 posts) -

Lol only weeaboo's love Lightning, she's not even a top 20 FF character. I mean hell she is just Cloud with boobs and pink hair. I'm honestly glad that Cloud was quiet during FF7, cause he would've been as annoying as Lightning.

If she shows up in anymore FF games I won't even bother buying the game used, hell you couldn't even pay me to play another game with that boring arz character.

#8 Posted by Gaming-Planet (13464 posts) -

Lightning, pls

#9 Posted by Xaero_Gravity (8536 posts) -

"Lightning is an extremely popular character"

What?

#10 Posted by Basinboy (10675 posts) -

Ok. I don't hate Lightning but her potential to be one of FF's best characters was utterly squandered in her mainline series.

Her showing up as a guest character in games like Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts is fine with me. But S-E should be putting a bullet into the face of FFXIII's elements under consideration for future FF titles.

#11 Edited by Gaming-Planet (13464 posts) -

@Xaero_Gravity said:

"Lightning is an extremely popular character"

What?

She's popular by weebs for her armpits.

#12 Edited by Zassimick (6000 posts) -

I want to see their research that supports the notion that Lightning is an extremely popular character. I guess when you shove her in our faces and don't listen to fans that you could believe it.

I enjoyed Final Fantasy XIII but boy would I be lying if I said Lightning was a highlight of the game.

#13 Edited by ShepardCommandr (1543 posts) -

#14 Posted by Chutebox (35692 posts) -

The fuck.... And since when is this dull bitch popular?

#15 Posted by da_illest101 (7332 posts) -

ah for f*ck sake, enough with lightning already. Do like most people did after FF XIII square, move on

#16 Edited by DJ-Lafleur (33894 posts) -

Do they mean popular in Japan?

TBH I cannot say this bothers me much as I never really hated her (never really cared much for her either). There are certainly worse FFXIII characters or FF characters in general that could be recycled. That and I am guessing they just mean she'll just make cameo appearances meant to reference the XIII series, not actually be relevant to plots in future FF games. I'll say that if she does actually play an important role in future FF stories then that would be pretty dumb.

#17 Posted by Mr-Kutaragi (1591 posts) -

maybe in kingdom heart only please. They do not need to mix FF game.

#18 Posted by chessmaster1989 (28631 posts) -

With rare exceptions of recurring characters (Cid, Biggs, Wedge, etc), characters should not appear in FF games other than their own. Lightning does not belong in other games nor would she add much to them.

#19 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (23669 posts) -

what is up with Square's obsession with Lightning?

#20 Edited by finalfantasy94 (25828 posts) -

well wasint she in FF14 already? Anywho if its just a nod to the character like someone dressed as her or maybe getting her in your party by some secert means (they did it with cloud)I dont really see why everyone is freaking out.I actually like her she ones of my favorite female FF characters but as I said before it should only fit the 2 way I mentioned.

#21 Edited by finalfantasy94 (25828 posts) -

@Ballroompirate said:

Lol only weeaboo's love Lightning, she's not even a top 20 FF character. I mean hell she is just Cloud with boobs and pink hair. I'm honestly glad that Cloud was quiet during FF7, cause he would've been as annoying as Lightning.

If she shows up in anymore FF games I won't even bother buying the game used, hell you couldn't even pay me to play another game with that boring arz character.

ummm cloud talk just about as much as lighting. Difference was one had voice work while the other didint.If your going to hate at least be accurate.

#22 Posted by stereointegrity (10535 posts) -

seriously when they did it with cloud is was cool cause he was loved...

NO ONE GIVES A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT LIGHTNING OUTSIDE OF JAPAN

#23 Edited by Ballroompirate (20641 posts) -

@Ballroompirate said:

Lol only weeaboo's love Lightning, she's not even a top 20 FF character. I mean hell she is just Cloud with boobs and pink hair. I'm honestly glad that Cloud was quiet during FF7, cause he would've been as annoying as Lightning.

If she shows up in anymore FF games I won't even bother buying the game used, hell you couldn't even pay me to play another game with that boring arz character.

ummm cloud talk just about as much as lighting. Difference was one had voice work while the other didint.If your going to hate at least be accurate.

Lol no, cloud barely said anything in FF7.

#24 Posted by finalfantasy94 (25828 posts) -

@finalfantasy94 said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Lol only weeaboo's love Lightning, she's not even a top 20 FF character. I mean hell she is just Cloud with boobs and pink hair. I'm honestly glad that Cloud was quiet during FF7, cause he would've been as annoying as Lightning.

If she shows up in anymore FF games I won't even bother buying the game used, hell you couldn't even pay me to play another game with that boring arz character.

ummm cloud talk just about as much as lighting. Difference was one had voice work while the other didint.If your going to hate at least be accurate.

Lol no, cloud barely said anything in FF7.

Na im pretty he did a good amount of talking. Just less noticable with no voice overs.

#25 Posted by whiskeystrike (12068 posts) -

IIRC she is super popular in Japan, consistently topping polls on favorite characters. For Square she really is their female Cloud.

She will most definitely appear in Kingdom Hearts 3 though I doubt elsewhere. Perhaps a future Tactics game?

#26 Edited by StrongBlackVine (7829 posts) -

I would love to see Lightning appear in Kingdom Hearts 3. I think she is great character wasted in some some dull games. I actually liked the character even though I didn't like FFXIII.

#27 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (11099 posts) -

Fine, she isn't as bad as Vanille.

But seriously, who is as bad as Vanille, it takes talent to become that damn annoying.

#28 Posted by Ballroompirate (20641 posts) -

@Ballroompirate said:

@finalfantasy94 said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Lol only weeaboo's love Lightning, she's not even a top 20 FF character. I mean hell she is just Cloud with boobs and pink hair. I'm honestly glad that Cloud was quiet during FF7, cause he would've been as annoying as Lightning.

If she shows up in anymore FF games I won't even bother buying the game used, hell you couldn't even pay me to play another game with that boring arz character.

ummm cloud talk just about as much as lighting. Difference was one had voice work while the other didint.If your going to hate at least be accurate.

Lol no, cloud barely said anything in FF7.

Na im pretty he did a good amount of talking. Just less noticable with no voice overs.

He had almost no dialogue in FF7 except the simple yes or no choices and the typical nod/body motions that came with the genre at the time. Cloud had no personality tell Crisis Core and Advent Children.

I played the crap out of FF7 on multiple playthroughs, I know Cloud was pretty much a mute during FF7. Comparing him to Lightnings dialogue, it's not even close on how much she actually takes part in a conversation compared to FF7 Cloud.

#29 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (11099 posts) -

@finalfantasy94 said:

@Ballroompirate said:

@finalfantasy94 said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Lol only weeaboo's love Lightning, she's not even a top 20 FF character. I mean hell she is just Cloud with boobs and pink hair. I'm honestly glad that Cloud was quiet during FF7, cause he would've been as annoying as Lightning.

If she shows up in anymore FF games I won't even bother buying the game used, hell you couldn't even pay me to play another game with that boring arz character.

ummm cloud talk just about as much as lighting. Difference was one had voice work while the other didint.If your going to hate at least be accurate.

Lol no, cloud barely said anything in FF7.

Na im pretty he did a good amount of talking. Just less noticable with no voice overs.

He had almost no dialogue in FF7 except the simple yes or no choices and the typical nod/body motions that came with the genre at the time. Cloud had no personality tell Crisis Core and Advent Children.

I played the crap out of FF7 on multiple playthroughs, I know Cloud was pretty much a mute during FF7. Comparing him to Lightnings dialogue, it's not even close on how much she actually takes part in a conversation compared to FF7 Cloud.

The most important part was clouds withdrawal actually made sense within the story, he wasn't a very sociable guy but he had reasons.

#30 Posted by Alcapello (294 posts) -

Japan must be the matrix I heard about.

#31 Edited by Ballroompirate (20641 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4: True, but in Crisis Core he was pretty much an outgoing guy compared to FF7 Cloud.

#32 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (11099 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4: True, but in Crisis Core he was pretty much an outgoing guy compared to FF7 Cloud.

Really? I've never played Crisis Core, that's pretty interesting.

#33 Posted by Desmonic (10426 posts) -

Eh. All in all she is the only decent thing to come out of FFXIII so I'd okay with it. She showed some actual character growth in the first game (something which is not that common with SE games), it's just the way she (and everyone else) was handled in that series was awful. Just awful. The writing was atrocious from start to finish.

If she is to appear in anything other than KH, Dissidia and the like she needs to be handled better, otherwise it's a pointless effort.

As a character I do see some potential in her (she is the female version of the "cool", strong fighter/killer with unresolved issues). She deserved a better story and cast. Then again I did only play the first game, so I don't know what kind of twisted turns they gave her in the following games....

People tend to hate her more due to her being the "face" of crappy series of games than anything else.

#34 Posted by Capitan_Kid (6452 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4: Why are you being such an idiot? She's one of Squares most popular characters and its just a cameo. You know, the stuff various other FF characters have done? Like Cloud being in Final Fantasy tactics or Gilgamesh who's in damn near every game?

#35 Edited by Consternated (465 posts) -

The franchise has been dead for over a decade, sadly. They can stick her where they want.

#36 Posted by 35cent (832 posts) -

Ugh, Lightning was less interesting than a brick. I hated her in FFXIII so I would like it if she never appeared in a Final Fantasy game again.

#37 Edited by Crossel777 (5593 posts) -

Don't really have a problem with Lightning's character herself, it's just the shit story and universe that surround her that makes her not very memorable. I mean, Lightning might actually be a good character if she wasn't in FFXIII.

#38 Edited by seanmcloughlin (37529 posts) -

For fuck sake just let her die already. Shes such a bad character

#39 Edited by drinkerofjuice (3150 posts) -

What makes her such a special character, exactly? This is an honest question. Any Final Fantasy title made within the past 10 years or so I'm out of the loop on.

#40 Edited by Jag85 (3983 posts) -

@whiskeystrike said:

IIRC she is super popular in Japan, consistently topping polls on favorite characters. For Square she really is their female Cloud.

She will most definitely appear in Kingdom Hearts 3 though I doubt elsewhere. Perhaps a future Tactics game?

Some people don't seem to realize just how popular Lightning is among fangirls (though not the XIII games themselves, but just the character).

#41 Edited by Crossel777 (5593 posts) -

she is super popular in Japan,

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/11/lightning-returns-sells-277k-in-japan-marking-another-decline-for-the-series/

or is she?

#42 Edited by Legend500 (114 posts) -

Super, super niche community that actually likes this character. I personally think that she is a horrible character in a terrible trilogy. Toriyama needs to lose his job for the sake of the series because he hasn't got a fucking clue what he is doing and looks to anime cliches and 5 year old style writing in games. I'd even rather Tidus or Vaan return in future games than this.

#43 Edited by Jag85 (3983 posts) -

@Crossel777 said:

@whiskeystrike said:

she is super popular in Japan,

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/11/lightning-returns-sells-277k-in-japan-marking-another-decline-for-the-series/

or is she?

Japan ranks their favorite female characters from the Final Fantasy series

Lightning beat out all the other FF female characters in fan polls. But the problem is that you can't sell an entire game by relying on a character's popularity alone. For an FF game, it's way more important to get the gameplay and story right, which Square Enix have consistently failed to do with the XIII games.

#44 Edited by Legend500 (114 posts) -

What makes her such a special character, exactly? This is an honest question. Any Final Fantasy title made within the past 10 years or so I'm out of the loop on.

Absolutely nothing. They really milked the fact that she is a female main character and idiots bought into it. Terrible character as with everyone in FFXIII.

#45 Edited by Jag85 (3983 posts) -

What makes her such a special character, exactly? This is an honest question. Any Final Fantasy title made within the past 10 years or so I'm out of the loop on.

She's pretty much the female equivalent to Cloud: a strong "badass" super-soldier. But other than that, she comes across as a bit of a shallow character. However, like I said above, some don't seem to realize just how many fangirls that Lightning has, because of the whole 'girl power' fantasy she provides (although sexualizing her somewhat in Lightning Returns didn't seem to go down too well).

#46 Posted by finalfantasy94 (25828 posts) -

IIRC she is super popular in Japan, consistently topping polls on favorite characters. For Square she really is their female Cloud.

She will most definitely appear in Kingdom Hearts 3 though I doubt elsewhere. Perhaps a future Tactics game?

well IIRC cloud did appear in tatics so it wouldint surprise me if they ever did another that she would drop by.

#47 Posted by finalfantasy94 (25828 posts) -

What makes her such a special character, exactly? This is an honest question. Any Final Fantasy title made within the past 10 years or so I'm out of the loop on.

Shes a strong female lead from the start. I guess thats what draws some like me to her.Shes not some wilting flower or starts as one and at the same time she doesint lack emotion.

#48 Posted by yokofox33 (28417 posts) -

Kill her with fire.

#49 Posted by finalfantasy94 (25828 posts) -

@Ballroompirate said:

@finalfantasy94 said:

@Ballroompirate said:

@finalfantasy94 said:

@Ballroompirate said:

Lol only weeaboo's love Lightning, she's not even a top 20 FF character. I mean hell she is just Cloud with boobs and pink hair. I'm honestly glad that Cloud was quiet during FF7, cause he would've been as annoying as Lightning.

If she shows up in anymore FF games I won't even bother buying the game used, hell you couldn't even pay me to play another game with that boring arz character.

ummm cloud talk just about as much as lighting. Difference was one had voice work while the other didint.If your going to hate at least be accurate.

Lol no, cloud barely said anything in FF7.

Na im pretty he did a good amount of talking. Just less noticable with no voice overs.

He had almost no dialogue in FF7 except the simple yes or no choices and the typical nod/body motions that came with the genre at the time. Cloud had no personality tell Crisis Core and Advent Children.

I played the crap out of FF7 on multiple playthroughs, I know Cloud was pretty much a mute during FF7. Comparing him to Lightnings dialogue, it's not even close on how much she actually takes part in a conversation compared to FF7 Cloud.

The most important part was clouds withdrawal actually made sense within the story, he wasn't a very sociable guy but he had reasons.

Besides him telling a lie and proboly feeling like a failure was there any other reasons? Just a random side not I really hate areith.Thats a character I would glady burn with fire.

#50 Posted by PrincessGomez92 (2596 posts) -

This is amazing news. We need more Lightning.