Kena: BoS is only releasing at launch as a digital title. Does that bother anyone?

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#1  Edited By deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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What is Sony thinking here? Is this a first step in going all-digital, and if so, why did they bother releasing a PS5 with a disc drive?

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/kena-bridge-of-spirits-release-date-gameplay-trailer#:~:text=On%20PS4%20and%20PS5%2C%20you,a%20physical%20edition%20available%20yet.

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#2 Zero_epyon
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@shadyacshuns said:

What is Sony thinking here? Is this a first step in going all-digital, and if so, why did they bother releasing a PS5 with a disc drive?

They certainly make more off the digital purchases so this doesn't surprise me. I can wait for a physical release so whatevs.

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#3 Zero_epyon
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@shadyacshuns: Also you'll need a source for this before the thread gets locked.

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Lems and sheep are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anything negative to say about Sony lol. This game wouldn't even be able to run on a Switch and it's not coming to Xbox.

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#6  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Jokes on you as I was going to buy it on PC anyway and I went full digital gaming a very long time ago, so physical isn't my concern.

As Zero stated, where's your proof in all of this? (You got 1 hour to provide a link otherwise, this thread will get locked)

Edit: Thank you. As you were everyone.

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#7  Edited By deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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@girlusocrazy said:

I don't really care about games doing this as long as there is a physical edition at some point, even if by limitedrun or others. If it's a game I want, I can wait, and more often I end up doing so anyway for a better price.

I was wanting to get a disc version so I could share it with a friend who's also interested, but I guess I'll go digital with this title. The dev claims they will put out a physical version later on, but that remains to be seen.

$40 is a good price for this game, if it isn't like 4 hours long.

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@shadyacshuns said:
@girlusocrazy said:

I don't really care about games doing this as long as there is a physical edition at some point, even if by limitedrun or others. If it's a game I want, I can wait, and more often I end up doing so anyway for a better price.

I was wanting to get a disc version so I could share it with a friend who's also interested, but I guess I'll go digital with this title. The dev claims they will put out a physical version later on, but that remains to be seen.

$40 is a good price for this game, if it isn't like 4 hours long.

Didn't Nintendo charge $60 for a 3 hour Kirby game?

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@shadyacshuns said:
@girlusocrazy said:

I don't really care about games doing this as long as there is a physical edition at some point, even if by limitedrun or others. If it's a game I want, I can wait, and more often I end up doing so anyway for a better price.

I was wanting to get a disc version so I could share it with a friend who's also interested, but I guess I'll go digital with this title. The dev claims they will put out a physical version later on, but that remains to be seen.

$40 is a good price for this game, if it isn't like 4 hours long.

Didn't Nintendo charge $60 for a 3 hour Kirby game?

No idea.

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#11  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@shadyacshuns: The developers said they'll look at doing a physical version at a later date. For now, if you wanna play it on PS4 or PS5, buy it digital.

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@shadyacshuns: the game won't be 4 hour long.

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@davillain- said:

@shadyacshuns: The developers said they'll look at doing a physical version at a later date. For now, if you wanna play it on PS4 or PS5, buy it digital.

Yeah... I don't trust pr speak from anyone. I hope this doesn't become a thing with Sony: dropping physical games for PS5.

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#14 R4gn4r0k
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This seems to be the way forward now for indie and even AA budget games.

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@shadyacshuns said:
@davillain- said:

@shadyacshuns: The developers said they'll look at doing a physical version at a later date. For now, if you wanna play it on PS4 or PS5, buy it digital.

Yeah... I don't trust pr speak from anyone. I hope this doesn't become a thing with Sony: dropping physical games for PS5.

Kena is developed and published by Ember Lab. How is Sony responsible for the lack of a physical version?

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#16 ConanTheStoner
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Nah. Pretty sure the last time I bought a physical game was when I pre-ordered BotW along with the Switch. Tbh, not even sure why I did that either.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

This seems to be the way forward now for indie and even AA budget games.

If that's the case, then it won't be long before AAA titles also go that way. I guess the dystopian future is finally upon us!

@wonderwinner said:

@shadyacshuns: the game won't be 4 hour long.

I hope you're right bruh. Even 8 hours would probably be ok if it's high quality and fun.

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@shadyacshuns said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

This seems to be the way forward now for indie and even AA budget games.

If that's the case, then it won't be long before AAA titles also go that way. I guess the dystopian future is finally upon us!

I hope you're right bruh. Even 8 hours would probably be ok if it's high quality and fun.

Look at video rental places, wasn't long until that disappeared

I'm not sure who is still buying DVDs and 4K blurays, but I do know streaming is taking a big chunk out of that.

In fact the only problem with streaming is you have no clue where to stream what movie.

Gaming doesn't have that problem. You want a game? Changes are big it's on PS4, or you can find it on Steam, etc.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Nah. Pretty sure the last time I bought a physical game was when I pre-ordered BotW along with the Switch. Tbh, not even sure why I did that either.

I still buy physical games for Switch but at this point, I might end up just buying BoTW2 through digital moving forward.

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tbh, I don't trust Nintendo or Sony to keep my digital purchases and ID safe, because they really don't seem to have the infrastructure to maintain those things. Microsoft, on the other hand, has all that. So for me: Xbox=all digital, and Sony/Nintendo=mostly physical whenever possible.

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#21  Edited By hardwenzen
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What the f'ck????????????????????????????????????????????

Not only is it a big deal for me, but this guarantees me not getting the game. I don't buy anything digitally (on consoles) and was gonna sell the game when i am done with it. This is a deal breaker right there. FU Sony.

edit: just remembered that i wanted to get it on pc, so i was okay with it being digital only. THEN i remembered that i am gpu`less and that's the main reason i was looking at the PS5 version😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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#22 Starshine_M2A2
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It looks bad so no not really. Will get the superior PC version when it’s on sale.

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If it ever comes out on physical I might pick it up, I don't do digital unless it's small indie games or an INCREDIBLE deal.

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#24 lamprey263
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Smaller publisher, maybe they don't have money to advance royalties for wide distribution. Also, isn't game only $40? Fair trade, that's $30 off the jacked up $70 PS5 exclusive games are going for, so those who whine they like selling their games shouldn't bitch as most times I ever went to Game Stop and saw someone doing trades it is someone taking a stack of games to just put a dent into some shit game they still need to shell out money for in the end.

Anyhow, curious if Sony isn't publishing it, will it even be exclusive? Heard a rumor the PS5 exclusive Oddworld will come to Xbox Series S|X in coming weeks, so what, three month exclusivity if that's the case. Would this be in same boat? Are they just being smart releasing this as hazy Sony exclusive to get the hype and praise just to go multiplatform immediately after? And hey, if they don't have money to print and advance royalties, wouldn't surprise me if they port whore it later.

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#25 Telekill
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Oddworld Soulstorm did the same thing.

I'll wait for the physical version.

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Not in the least and I'm buying day one to support the devs.

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#27 Pedro
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@shadyacshuns said:

What is Sony thinking here? Is this a first step in going all-digital, and if so, why did they bother releasing a PS5 with a disc drive?

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/kena-bridge-of-spirits-release-date-gameplay-trailer#:~:text=On%20PS4%20and%20PS5%2C%20you,a%20physical%20edition%20available%20yet.

Sony is is not the publisher nor the developer of this game. 😐

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@shadyacshuns said:

What is Sony thinking here? Is this a first step in going all-digital, and if so, why did they bother releasing a PS5 with a disc drive?

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/kena-bridge-of-spirits-release-date-gameplay-trailer#:~:text=On%20PS4%20and%20PS5%2C%20you,a%20physical%20edition%20available%20yet.

Heres an idea ps5 with a disc drive can still download and play digital games. Who cares.

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Yeah it bothers me I prefer all games physical. The only time I buy digital is if its the only choice. I know some times games that are digital only will get a physical release later but they dont always so waiting for something that may not happen is not really a smart option either. I have not preorder because I was hoping limited run games or iam8bit or something would do a physical version. If it gets to like a day before and still know news on that I will go ahead of do the digital.

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@shadyacshuns said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

This seems to be the way forward now for indie and even AA budget games.

If that's the case, then it won't be long before AAA titles also go that way. I guess the dystopian future is finally upon us!

I hope you're right bruh. Even 8 hours would probably be ok if it's high quality and fun.

Look at video rental places, wasn't long until that disappeared

I'm not sure who is still buying DVDs and 4K blurays, but I do know streaming is taking a big chunk out of that.

In fact the only problem with streaming is you have no clue where to stream what movie.

Gaming doesn't have that problem. You want a game? Changes are big it's on PS4, or you can find it on Steam, etc.

I still buy 4k blurays more so if its not a disney movie has disney+ I use all the time so much of my child hood on there and also some good newer shows will never have time to watch everything I would like to watch. But I dont really stream the other things all the time.

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#31  Edited By BassMan
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This is Ember Lab's first major game and they don't have a publisher. It is much easier for them to release the game digitally as they don't have to partner with a publisher and worry about physical distribution. This is common on PC for smaller developers and it will be the norm in the coming years as we move away from physical discs. Don't try to make this a Sony thing when it isn't.

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#32 hardwenzen
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If this game scores well, if i was Sony, i'd snatch the shit outta this dev.

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@hardwenzen: it’s a 40$ game dude, you really shouldn’t be interested as it’s going to be terrible because it so cheap!!

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#34 hardwenzen
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@djoffer123 said:

@hardwenzen: it’s a 40$ game dude, you really shouldn’t be interested as it’s going to be terrible because it so cheap!!

Not only is it not $70, which is a massive issue, but its not even an Sony exclusive, which i simply refuse to play.

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@zeldabotw2 said:

I still buy 4k blurays more so if its not a disney movie has disney+ I use all the time so much of my child hood on there and also some good newer shows will never have time to watch everything I would like to watch. But I dont really stream the other things all the time.

I'm mostly interested in the older hand drawn disney movies. Are those available in 4K on Disney +?

I'm talking The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, Pocahontas, etc..

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@hardwenzen: understandably! Leave those dirty cheap games for the hermits!

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#37 rmpumper
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I bet it only bothers the people who buy the game, finish it in a few days and sell at 2/3 the price, while pretending that it does not hurt the devs.

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@shadyacshuns: this has nothing to do with Sony.

That said I am getting it for Xbox anyway. It’s only a timed console exclusive.

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What's a physical game? Lol. But in seriousness, I've been basically all digital except on Switch for ages

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#41 hardwenzen
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@rmpumper said:

I bet it only bothers the people who buy the game, finish it in a few days and sell at 2/3 the price, while pretending that it does not hurt the devs.

My wallet is more important than a multi million dev.

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@BassMan said:

This is Ember Lab's first major game and they don't have a publisher. It is much easier for them to release the game digitally as they don't have to partner with a publisher and worry about physical distribution. This is common on PC for smaller developers and it will be the norm in the coming years as we move away from physical discs. Don't try to make this a Sony thing when it isn't.

At this point, I don't see physical games lasting longer whenever next-gen starts and to be frank, I stop caring for physical games since the start of PS4/Xbox One era.

Developers: My way or the highway.

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@xantufrog said:

What's a physical game? Lol. But in seriousness, I've been basically all digital except on Switch for ages

The last time I bought a physical game was the Xbox 360.

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Why are people bitching about Sony for a Non-Sony game?

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@lebanese_boy said:

Why are people bitching about Sony for a Non-Sony game?

No idea.

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@lebanese_boy said:

Why are people bitching about Sony for a Non-Sony game?

I already asked the TC that and never got a response.

@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@shadyacshuns said:
@davillain- said:

@shadyacshuns: The developers said they'll look at doing a physical version at a later date. For now, if you wanna play it on PS4 or PS5, buy it digital.

Yeah... I don't trust pr speak from anyone. I hope this doesn't become a thing with Sony: dropping physical games for PS5.

Kena is developed and published by Ember Lab. How is Sony responsible for the lack of a physical version?

I wonder why he's avoiding this crucial detail.

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#48  Edited By Dragerdeifrit
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@shadyacshuns: Keep in mind that Kena is basically an indie title, and indies don't get physical releases often, unless they become super succesful like Hollow Knight. And then, disc version always release later.

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#49 clone01
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@shadyacshuns said:

What is Sony thinking here? Is this a first step in going all-digital, and if so, why did they bother releasing a PS5 with a disc drive?

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/kena-bridge-of-spirits-release-date-gameplay-trailer#:~:text=On%20PS4%20and%20PS5%2C%20you,a%20physical%20edition%20available%20yet.

I got a digital PS5. Mainly because it was the only one I could snag. It hasn't bothered me at all.

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@Dragerdeifrit: That's basically what I thought here, isn't this technically an indie game and don't indie games typically do digital-only releases to save on publishing/distribution costs? What are people so shocked about?