I am not surprised by this if true. I would be a lot more concerned if Madden and FIFA didn't make it to the Switch.
Still I believe this system will get Japanese support. The real question was whether the Switch can get back Western support.
@nintendoboy16: The differences are pretty big here: ME: A is absolutely pandering that shit while Overwatch handled it perfectly.
Maybe in your opinion, but elsewhere (like the comments in Censored Gaming's video on it), Blizzard is getting quite a lot of shit for Tracer's sexuality all the same, which I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were alt-right.
Why should we care about what a bunch of morons like that think about anything?
Because now, the results of an election and more so after an inauguration, they're going to have more power.
@nintendoboy16: The differences are pretty big here: ME: A is absolutely pandering that shit while Overwatch handled it perfectly.
Maybe in your opinion, but elsewhere (like the comments in Censored Gaming's video on it), Blizzard is getting quite a lot of shit for Tracer's sexuality all the same, which I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were alt-right.
Why should we care about what a bunch of morons like that think about anything?
Because now, the results of an election and more so after an inauguration, they're going to have more power.
Sorry, I don't follow...
@nintendoboy16: Yeah I agree that ME3's failure is EA's own fault, a trilogy collection would have been the obvious choice. I really hope that Switch doesn't get too many delayed ports and if it does, they really should have exclusive content (ie. Samus being in Overwatch). If we can get more stuff like this, I can see their games selling like hotcakes.
I also agree that Nintendo is at fault for third party relations, especially recently since their systems can't handle modern games. They were at their peak with them when they had a system similar in power. I think they're taking a step in the right direction so far with stuff like Unreal Engine 4 being on the Switch but we'll have to find out for sure come next week.
@nintendoboy16: Yeah I agree that ME3's failure is EA's own fault, a trilogy collection would have been the obvious choice. I really hope that Switch doesn't get too many delayed ports and if it does, they really should have exclusive content (ie. Samus being in Overwatch). If we can get more stuff like this, I can see their games selling like hotcakes.
I also agree that Nintendo is at fault for third party relations, especially recently since their systems can't handle modern games. They were at their peak with them when they had a system similar in power. I think they're taking a step in the right direction so far with stuff like Unreal Engine 4 being on the Switch but we'll have to find out for sure come next week.
I honestly doubt Switch will get Overwatch. Blizzard hasn't cared about Nintendo development in a while.
@nintendoboy16: I'm doubting it as well to be on the safe side, but that was just an example of the kind of content that should be in third party games should they be delayed ports.
To be fair, there's hardly any demanding for Mass Effect games to be on Nintendo consoles, why Andromeda be any different? Mass Effect: Andromeda has been in production for awhile now before Nintendo started developing Switch for the most parts. Regardless of what people may think of Nintendo Switch, I'm still buying it day one for exclusive games, I like what I seen so far and I was gonna buy Andromeda on PC anyways, buying it for Switch was the last thing on my mind.
Why would Bethesda put Skyrim on Switch?
Why would Ubisoft put Assassin's Creed on Wii U?
Why bother putting Call of Duty 4 on Wii when it was previously stated it could not?
Mass Effect Andromeda would actually be perfect to put on a New System since it's not supposed to have ANY ties to the Original Cast or Universe of the original Trilogy. If anything it's a better fit then putting Mass Effect 3 on Wii U since you're not in the middle of a Giant Story Arc, you're starting a New Adventure.
Also it's not the player base of Nintendo Consoles is demanding more "Mass Effect". It's that the Player base is demanding "More 3rd Party."
Brings up a good point for me personally. I played 1/2 on Steam. I own 3 on WiiU but haven't even opened it yet. 3 isn't on Steam. I've been holding out hoping it would be on Steam. How much will I be missing out on if I just play it on WiiU? Did you guys who played it on PC run into similar issues?
On topic...I will be getting a Switch Day 1, but probably wouldn't play MEA on it anyway.
To me I play Mass Effect trilogy on Xbox 360 since I did play the first game on Xbox 360 anyways and later on PC since I have EA Origin and I for one never had problems with Origin cause I like the freebie games in the vault so I'd had no issues. I have Steam first and foremost, follow by EA Origin and UPlay. Like I said, playing Mass Effect games on a Nintendo console never came to my mind when ME3 got ported for Wii U.
It's to be expected the switch is weak with no storage. It also has no install base and the network is basically a huge unknown. Then you have patches and DLC so naturally 3rd party support is going to suck.
Then you have the marketing or lack of and a launch that misses the holidays smdh.
The same people hardcore sheep will line up for the switch. Sheep won't care as long as mario/zelda/pokemon are there.
Personally I don't wan't nintendo to die but their products suck. They need to go 3rd party and give up on making horrible hardware.
That picture says it all. Who cares about Switch when you can play freaking GameBoy games on your Gamecube
im shocked. i mean absolutely blindisded by this. the fact that EA had to put out a statement to clear up some confusion on this matter is...well i never saw it coming.
of course this wasnt going to come to the switch. why on earth would they put it on the switch? games like mass effect dont sell on nintendo platforms.
anyone expecting AAA 3rd party multiplat support is just either trying to set up troll bait or has lost their senses. its not going to happen. the switch, like all nintendo platforms since they made hardware, is made by nintendo for the requirements of nintendo and only nintendo. its a clever device that solves a few problems for them. it does nothing, not one single thing, to encourage 3rd party maultiplat development.
nintendo will have to bankroll exclusive 3rd party content. thats the only way its going to work.
Mass Effect 3 sold awful on the Wii U.. not shocking they dont wanna put it on there.
Due to EA themselves not even trying.
Mass Effect 3 sold awful on the Wii U.. not shocking they dont wanna put it on there.
Due to EA themselves not even trying.
EA putting the last game in a trilogy wasnt helping, but the wii u was the major reason for the failure. The switch has the potential to be amazing, but at the same time it could be another wii u cause it doesnt connect with consumers, I can see it going both ways. I dont blame them for not putting ME4 on the switch, when they are probably going to put some casual games on to test the waters before a more core gamer type game
Mass Effect 3 sold awful on the Wii U.. not shocking they dont wanna put it on there.
Due to EA themselves not even trying.
EA putting the last game in a trilogy wasnt helping, but the wii u was the major reason for the failure. The switch has the potential to be amazing, but at the same time it could be another wii u cause it doesnt connect with consumers, I can see it going both ways. I dont blame them for not putting ME4 on the switch, when they are probably going to put some casual games on to test the waters before a more core gamer type game
Not exactly. If they did put Trilogy on Wii U, then I would believe it. But it's ME3 we're talking about here, a game surrounded by controversy among it's own fans that the press gave quite a lot of coverage of.
Once again, third parties need to stop being exempt from criticism to why third party relations with Nintendo suck when there's been several occasions where there just as much at fault like when Nintendo does, but gets overlook because, again, Nintendo are seen as fascists of the industry.
Mass Effect 3 sold awful on the Wii U.. not shocking they dont wanna put it on there.
Due to EA themselves not even trying.
EA putting the last game in a trilogy wasnt helping, but the wii u was the major reason for the failure. The switch has the potential to be amazing, but at the same time it could be another wii u cause it doesnt connect with consumers, I can see it going both ways. I dont blame them for not putting ME4 on the switch, when they are probably going to put some casual games on to test the waters before a more core gamer type game
Not exactly. If they did put Trilogy on Wii U, then I would believe it. But it's ME3 we're talking about here, a game surrounded by controversy among it's own fans that the press gave quite a lot of coverage of.
Once again, third parties need to stop being exempt from criticism to why third party relations with Nintendo suck when there's been several occasions where there just as much at fault like when Nintendo does, but gets overlook because, again, Nintendo are seen as fascists of the industry.
I dont know about fascists of the industry, but the main reason the wii u failed was the wii u itself in this instance. ME3 is steeped in controversy at the time, but I think most people enjoyed the game, its just the ending everyone hated. It just wasnt a good fit for the wii u since you either cant play the first two or you will stick with the console you were playing on to transfer progress. They messed up, but it wasnt that big of error in the grand scheme of things. Nintendo was the real cause of the wii u's failure, the marketing wasnt on point for the system and didnt appeal to either casual or core gamers.
Here's another thing too, why is no one talking about storage capacity on cartridges? Games are starting to bridge the 80+ GB threshold, do you think any form of high speed cartridge is going to have those capacities or be cheap? **** no, that's just another thing that is going to eat third party profits and constrain them to figuring out how to compress their games to fit.
Yet another non-incentivized hassle.
If the rumors are true that the Switch is only as powerful as the Shield Tablet, then 32 gig carts will probably be enough.
I don't see myself ever buying a multiplatform game on the Switch regardless, so this doesn't effect me in the slightest. The thing will more than likely be a Zelda/Mario Kart/Smash Bros box for me, much like all of Nintendo's platforms since the N64.
The Switch will be a success if it manages to be a great handheld system. If it is looked at more as a console than as a handheld, it will be a huge flop. The price point is very important here.
@aigis: If EA wanted to be smart about why they don't support Nintendo systems, they should hit gamers where it hurts most and say "Cause ya'll didn't buy 'Most Wanted U'."
@Ghost_Dub We've had like 4 (or hell let's go 20) years of 3rd Party Developers tell us "We don't have plans putting 'X' Game on Nintendo Console." only to have that attitude of "wait and see" only to find "No Plans" equals "No Game"...like ever.
Stay optimistic, but let's be real here.
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where will you be playing it? ps4/pro ..toy? hahaha ill be on PC for a better experience.
see what i did there?
anyway.... wii didnt have 90% of the 3rd party games 360 and ps3 had and still won the gen. i'm going to wait and see how it is revealed and sells before passing judgement.
Here's another thing too, why is no one talking about storage capacity on cartridges? Games are starting to bridge the 80+ GB threshold, do you think any form of high speed cartridge is going to have those capacities or be cheap? **** no, that's just another thing that is going to eat third party profits and constrain them to figuring out how to compress their games to fit.
Yet another non-incentivized hassle.
If the rumors are true that the Switch is only as powerful as the Shield Tablet, then 32 gig carts will probably be enough.
And if games are in excess of 32 GB's? If a game is 80 GB's?
This is also a good place to post this video about the upcoming game. People should really know what they are supporting when they buy things.
Guy is nothing but troll trash as are his opinions.
Who ever bought a Nintendo console for multi-platform games?
No one since the Gamecube. You're correct. If you buy a Nintendo console for 3rd party games, you are doing it wrong.
If you buy any console for 3rd Party games you're doing it wrong, since PC has the best Mutliplatform games.
No surprises here. The real reason why the Switch will not see much third party support is because:
1) Switch uses ARM-based Tegra processors. PC, XBO and PS4 all use x86 processors. This make it easy to port games between PC, XBO and PS4, but hard for Switch.
2) Lower graphics capabilities.
Put yourself in the shows of a developer. Why would you spend that much money changing everything just for one system?
Mass Effect 3 sold awful on the Wii U.. not shocking they dont wanna put it on there.
Due to EA themselves not even trying.
EA putting the last game in a trilogy wasnt helping, but the wii u was the major reason for the failure. The switch has the potential to be amazing, but at the same time it could be another wii u cause it doesnt connect with consumers, I can see it going both ways. I dont blame them for not putting ME4 on the switch, when they are probably going to put some casual games on to test the waters before a more core gamer type game
Not exactly. If they did put Trilogy on Wii U, then I would believe it. But it's ME3 we're talking about here, a game surrounded by controversy among it's own fans that the press gave quite a lot of coverage of.
Once again, third parties need to stop being exempt from criticism to why third party relations with Nintendo suck when there's been several occasions where there just as much at fault like when Nintendo does, but gets overlook because, again, Nintendo are seen as fascists of the industry.
I dont know about fascists of the industry, but the main reason the wii u failed was the wii u itself in this instance. ME3 is steeped in controversy at the time, but I think most people enjoyed the game, its just the ending everyone hated. It just wasnt a good fit for the wii u since you either cant play the first two or you will stick with the console you were playing on to transfer progress. They messed up, but it wasnt that big of error in the grand scheme of things. Nintendo was the real cause of the wii u's failure, the marketing wasnt on point for the system and didnt appeal to either casual or core gamers.
Yeah, so it was EA's fault, putting ME3 on the Wii U when they could have put the Trilogy on it- especially since they went ahead and released the Trilogy on every other system for the same price at that time anyway.
Here's another thing too, why is no one talking about storage capacity on cartridges? Games are starting to bridge the 80+ GB threshold, do you think any form of high speed cartridge is going to have those capacities or be cheap? **** no, that's just another thing that is going to eat third party profits and constrain them to figuring out how to compress their games to fit.
Yet another non-incentivized hassle.
If the rumors are true that the Switch is only as powerful as the Shield Tablet, then 32 gig carts will probably be enough.
And if games are in excess of 32 GB's? If a game is 80 GB's?
If it's 80GB you're out of luck, but with Switch's graphics capabilities most games wont be. For instance, the PS3 version of GTA 5 is 36gb, and that was one of the biggest games on the system. Switch graphics will only be marginally better than PS3's.
Most 3rd party games are not going to end up on Switch, but the ones that do will have to scale back their graphics so much that 32gb will probably be enough. Compressing audio files will help a lot too. I doubt Switch does 5.1 surround sound.
No surprises here. The real reason why the Switch will not see much third party support is because:
1) Switch uses ARM-based Tegra processors. PC, XBO and PS4 all use x86 processors. This make it easy to port games between PC, XBO and PS4, but hard for Switch.
2) Lower graphics capabilities.
Put yourself in the shows of a developer. Why would you spend that much money changing everything just for one system?
Also as I previously stated they lose a decent amount more money having to cater to cartridges rather than optical media.
All in all, it's not an incentivized or desirable platform to develop for.
Yeah, so it was EA's fault, putting ME3 on the Wii U when they could have put the Trilogy on it- especially since they went ahead and released the Trilogy on every other system for the same price at that time anyway.
It is partly, the wii u just being generally unappealing is the main reason. If they had put the trilogy out for the wii u, it still isnt a system seller. I dont think the other ports did very well either and they werent hindered by ME3's issues.
Yeah, so it was EA's fault, putting ME3 on the Wii U when they could have put the Trilogy on it- especially since they went ahead and released the Trilogy on every other system for the same price at that time anyway.
It is partly, the wii u just being generally unappealing is the main reason. If they had put the trilogy out for the wii u, it still isnt a system seller. I dont think the other ports did very well either and they werent hindered by ME3's issues.
They were two (or more) year old late ports at full price, I mean, they weren't gonna do well, man. if EA had put out their current games on the system and they hadn't done well, sure, they would have had a point, but as it stands, they practically sabotaged their own efforts.
Yeah, so it was EA's fault, putting ME3 on the Wii U when they could have put the Trilogy on it- especially since they went ahead and released the Trilogy on every other system for the same price at that time anyway.
It is partly, the wii u just being generally unappealing is the main reason. If they had put the trilogy out for the wii u, it still isnt a system seller. I dont think the other ports did very well either and they werent hindered by ME3's issues.
They were two (or more) year old late ports at full price, I mean, they weren't gonna do well, man. if EA had put out their current games on the system and they hadn't done well, sure, they would have had a point, but as it stands, they practically sabotaged their own efforts.
They didnt help themselves thats for sure, it was a bad decision by EA. It probably wouldnt have done well even if the wii u sold well, but the wii u marketing didnt help. If it was wii popular, i'm sure they would have a sports game port or something to give it another kick at the can.
Yeah, so it was EA's fault, putting ME3 on the Wii U when they could have put the Trilogy on it- especially since they went ahead and released the Trilogy on every other system for the same price at that time anyway.
It is partly, the wii u just being generally unappealing is the main reason. If they had put the trilogy out for the wii u, it still isnt a system seller. I dont think the other ports did very well either and they werent hindered by ME3's issues.
They were two (or more) year old late ports at full price, I mean, they weren't gonna do well, man. if EA had put out their current games on the system and they hadn't done well, sure, they would have had a point, but as it stands, they practically sabotaged their own efforts.
They didnt help themselves thats for sure, it was a bad decision by EA. It probably wouldnt have done well even if the wii u sold well, but the wii u marketing didnt help. If it was wii popular, i'm sure they would have a sports game port or something to give it another kick at the can.
That I agree with
people interested in the switch don't care about third party AAA games being on the switch--they care about plenty of first-party nintendo games. bioware's latest dating sim not making it to the switch is a non-story
That's disappointing if true, but they did mention they don't want to "close doors like that" so it probably depends on Switch sales.
Also, I can see their decision being based on their Mass Effect 3 Wii U port which was a failure from the get go. I hope EA isn't dumb enough to do the same thing again.
Knowing EA they will release it ME trilogy at full price on Switch..then wonder why no one is buying it. :P
Yeah, well, i can bring my Switch on the roof so i don't even care
lol
But yeah, people thinking Switch would catch the big multiplats were really just caught up in wishful thinking. Even if the system does sell big numbers and gains some ground with 3rd parties, it'll likely be with smaller exclusive titles. Not your GTAs, not your TES games, none of the huge AAA projects.
Which is fine with me. It's not a good thing for Nintendo, but whatevs.
Before we even knew what the Switch was, I already knew I'd be buying it as a Nintendo exclusives box. Something I'll play a couple of times a year when I'm not on the PC.
Yeah, well, i can bring my Switch on the roof so i don't even care
lol
But yeah, people thinking Switch would catch the big multiplats were really just caught up in wishful thinking. Even if the system does sell big numbers and gains some ground with 3rd parties, it'll likely be with smaller exclusive titles. Not your GTAs, not your TES games, none of the huge AAA projects.
Which is fine with me. It's not a good thing for Nintendo, but whatevs.
Before we even knew what the Switch was, I already knew I'd be buying it as a Nintendo exclusives box. Something I'll play a couple of times a year when I'm not on the PC.
Pretty much.
I dont expect much third party support on it. I just expect to buy it for the Nintendo products. But I will probably wait a few years until I buy it. I always buy a console once it has enough exclusives on it to justify the price.
Which is why I have yet to buy a PS4.
I don't think it would have sold well they already burned the nintendo crowd what was it ME3 $60 and no dlc instead of the $40 trilogy every other platform got. Ea needs to build their fandom on nintendo's system with quality and fairness not cutting corners. Look at Ubi they've done it to an extent. It was just a bad move newbies can't just start the ME story from 3
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