Is it possible for GT6 to match Forza 3?

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#1 jimmypsn
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I know that PD has had some problems lately but do you think they could turn things around for GT 6 to be at least as good as Forza 3?

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#2 edo-tensei
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Better question, can GeOW3 outscore Uc3? Oh snap!

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#3 soulitane
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Sure it's possible but how the hell do we know since it isn't even announced yet :?
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#5 POPEYE1716
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GT5 already did, imo

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#6 MonsieurX
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It might face off Forza 5 on next gen
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#7 GTSaiyanjin2
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Anything is possible, so yeah sure why not.

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#8 BPoole96
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I'll bookmark this thread and see in ~5 years

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#9 rybe1025
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By the time GT6 comes out Forza 15 will be about to be released.
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#10 foxhound_fox
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Until Kazunori pulls his head out of his ass and realizes he has very strong competition in Turn 10, no, I don't believe GT6 will be any better. The game is still stuck in the Playstation era, racing games have moved on.
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#11 Ragnarok1051
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By the time GT6 comes out Forza 15 will be about to be released.rybe1025
That's pretty sad on both parts actually.
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#12 DJ_Lae
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Until Kazunori pulls his head out of his ass and realizes he has very strong competition in Turn 10, no, I don't believe GT6 will be any better. The game is still stuck in the Playstation era, racing games have moved on.foxhound_fox
This. Kaz has a completely detached view of what a racing sim should be on consoles. He's taken little to no cues from competitors in terms of adding features to his games (seriously, paint chips, wtf) and seems to spend very little time actually managing his development team.
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#13 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]By the time GT6 comes out Forza 15 will be about to be released.Ragnarok1051
That's pretty sad on both parts actually.

Not if the Forza team can release higher quality games and a quicker rate.
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#14 Chubith
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Is it possible for FM4 to match GT5's driving? That is the real question here.

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#15 rumbalumba
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Until Kazunori pulls his head out of his ass and realizes he has very strong competition in Turn 10, no, I don't believe GT6 will be any better. The game is still stuck in the Playstation era, racing games have moved on.DJ_Lae
This. Kaz has a completely detached view of what a racing sim should be on consoles. He's taken little to no cues from competitors in terms of adding features to his games (seriously, paint chips, wtf) and seems to spend very little time actually managing his development team.

LOLWUT. besides custom decals, what feature does Forza 3 have over gt5? NOTHING. that paint job does not even add anything to the gameplay. GT5 had a track creator, weather, 16 cars on track, day/night cycle, 3d, head detection, working gauges,rally, f1, nascar, etc.

everything is being copied by T10 for Forza 4.

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#16 nameless12345
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Until Kazunori pulls his head out of his ass and realizes he has very strong competition in Turn 10, no, I don't believe GT6 will be any better. The game is still stuck in the Playstation era, racing games have moved on.foxhound_fox

Why should he fix a successful recipe? The matter of fact is that despite criticism from reviewers and racing game fans-alike GT5 is the best sold racer this gen.

Even if "the ultimate driving simulator" phrase holds little weight anymore it's still a racer packed with features and an authentic racing feel.

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#17 TheEpicGoat
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Nah, the GT dev is just not good like the Forza dev.

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#18 Da_lil_PimP
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]By the time GT6 comes out Forza 15 will be about to be released.Fightingfan
That's pretty sad on both parts actually.

Not if the Forza team can release higher quality games and a quicker rate.

15 Forza games is worse than Halo.
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#19 POPEYE1716
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UI thought GT5 was far superior, I just enjoyed that game a lot more then forza 3

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#20 Phoenix534
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No. GT5 is embarrisingly far behind Forza 3. They'd have to throw away everything and start from scratch if they want to beat Forza.

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#21 lucky_star
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Atleast GT 5 wasnt an arcade racer.

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#22 Phoenix534
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Atleast GT 5 wasnt and arcade racer.

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Both GT and Forza are far from simulation.

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#23 Pug-Nasty
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GT5 was packed full of content, so it's not surprising such a small team had trouble polishing it all. I expect GT: 6 will come sooner and be much better, hell GT: 5 is already much better than it was when it came out from patches.

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#24 joel_c17
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No its completely impossible. The law of physics will simply not allow it. No game can ever be made better then Forza 3. Even if it hasnt been announced yet. They could make GT 293488273 and it would still not meet the overall quality and realism of forza 3 / sarcasm
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#25 lamprey263
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GT6?! Probably has a better chance competing with Forza 4, if it ever comes out, has it even been announced? The way things went with GT5 I expect a GT6 Prologue overhyped demo to come out at near full price after a year of the PS4 being released and the actual game being released a few years later, maybe then GT6 will be competing with Forza 6.
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#26 Phoenix534
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GT6?! Probably has a better chance competing with Forza 4, if it ever comes out, has it even been announced?lamprey263

Yeah. They said they started working on it immeadiately after 5 went gold.

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#27 Kashiwaba
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Is it just me or people seems to be exaggerating some games fualts (GT5, FFXIII) while overrating other games (ME2, (Whatever Rockstar makes)) a lot recently.

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#28 joel_c17
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Is it just me or people seems to be exaggerating some games fualts (GT5, FFXIII) while overrating other games (ME2, (Whatever Rockstar makes)) a lot recently.

Kashiwaba
Include infamous 2 in that list of exaggeratting. Anything rockstar releases is considered gold wheras i thought games like gta4 and rdr were pretty average
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#31 joel_c17
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Thats true i loved ME2. One of my fav games this gen
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#32 Kashiwaba
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Thats true i loved ME2. One of my fav games this genjoel_c17

ME2 was good but it wasnt as godly as what the gaming media making it seem.

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#33 DarkLink77
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My, we're setting standards for Grand Turismo rather low now, aren't we? :lol:

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#34 razgriz_101
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Until Kazunori pulls his head out of his ass and realizes he has very strong competition in Turn 10, no, I don't believe GT6 will be any better. The game is still stuck in the Playstation era, racing games have moved on.foxhound_fox

The main problem with GT5 its too encyclopedia like for its own good and it really stifiles it in a lot of ways.

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#35 racing1750
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Is it possible for FM4 to match GT5's driving? That is the real question here.

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meh Forza is no worse in that area. If anyone wants a proper sim they won't be buying GT5.
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#36 racing1750
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Atleast GT 5 wasnt an arcade racer.

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arcade? lol, what are you talking about? Fanboys :roll:
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#37 soulitane
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Atleast GT 5 wasnt an arcade racer.

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arcade? lol, what are you talking about?

Yeah I've never understood why people say that GT5 is a sim yet forza is an arcade racer. There isn't much difference between them in that regard, with both of them not being the best sim but still not really being arcade.
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#38 waltefmoney
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Anything is possible.

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#39 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Atleast GT 5 wasnt an arcade racer.

arcade? lol, what are you talking about? Fanboys :roll:

Forza 3 was dumbed down, you think 4 will be any better with kinect and all that active steering crap? Good luck. Im done with the series.
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#40 AdmiralBison
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My, we're setting standards for Grand Turismo rather low now, aren't we? :lol:

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Sure why not :) Do you reckon that duke nuke.... Erm, I mean GT doesn't need more then 5 years to turn out average?
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#41 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="lucky_star"]

Atleast GT 5 wasnt an arcade racer.

arcade? lol, what are you talking about? Fanboys :roll:

Forza 3 was dumbed down, you think 4 will be any better with kinect and all that active steering crap? Good luck. Im done with the series.

It's been shown that Kinect will support head tilting, not a replacement of the control pad. Thats an old tactic. Nice try though.
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#42 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="racing1750"] arcade? lol, what are you talking about? Fanboys :roll:AdmiralBison
Forza 3 was dumbed down, you think 4 will be any better with kinect and all that active steering crap? Good luck. Im done with the series.

It's been shown that Kinect will support head tilting, not a replacement of the control pad. Thats an old tactic. Nice try though.

Kinect feature does not change the fact that F3 was already dumbed down compared to the superb Forza 2. Forza 3 IMO and plus the crappy unrealistic handling it was filled with bugs. That actually makes me wonder how in the hell it could score so good???? Oh well so did PD0...

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#43 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="lucky_star"] Forza 3 was dumbed down, you think 4 will be any better with kinect and all that active steering crap? Good luck. Im done with the series.lucky_star

It's been shown that Kinect will support head tilting, not a replacement of the control pad. Thats an old tactic. Nice try though.

Kinect feature does not change the fact that F3 was already dumbed down compared to the superb Forza 2. Forza 3 IMO and plus the crappy unrealistic handling it was filled with bugs. That actually makes me wonder how in the hell it could score so good???? Oh well so did PD0...

It wasn't dumbed down, it just offered more options to make it accessible to people who weren't used to arcade sims. If you turn off all the assists and gameplay help, it feels like GT does with no assists. The only difference is Forza 3 looks and runs better and has more features.

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#44 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

It's been shown that Kinect will support head tilting, not a replacement of the control pad. Thats an old tactic. Nice try though.AdmiralBison
Kinect feature does not change the fact that F3 was already dumbed down compared to the superb Forza 2. Forza 3 IMO and plus the crappy unrealistic handling it was filled with bugs. That actually makes me wonder how in the hell it could score so good???? Oh well so did PD0...

It wasn't dumbed down, it just offered more options to make it accessible to people who weren't used to arcade sims. If you turn off all the assists and gameplay help, it feels like GT does with no assists. The only difference is Forza 3 looks and runs better and has more features.

I disagree, it doesnt even feel as good as F2. IMO accessible does not translate into more realistic handling. /End of discussion.
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#45 omho88
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As far as I know, GT5 is actually a better RACING game from what I heard from critics, the visual problems is what made GT5 lag behind ..... so, can Forza4 keep up? :D .

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#46 ArcFatalix
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GT5 was a great racing game, some guy actually came 2nd in 24 hour lemans after graduating from the GT academy. But Forza 4 will be accessible to all, I hope it has less loading screens.

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#47 lowkey254
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GT6 isn't coming until the PS4 is out so it "should" be the best looking/feeling racer out there. Although everyone said that about Forza 2 and GT5. IMO, PD needs to just start from scratch instead of using GT4 as the basis for their games.

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[QUOTE="Chubith"]

Is it possible for FM4 to match GT5's driving? That is the real question here.

racing1750

meh Forza is no worse in that area. If anyone wants a proper sim they won't be buying GT5.

Or Forza :P

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#49 MightyMuna
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Forza can have all the paint jobs, customizations and whatnot but GT will still remain the better racing/driving game, the mechanics/physics destroys that of Forza. The 24hr le mans race in GT5 is just amazing.
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#50 bryn8150
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Better question, can GeOW3 outscore Uc3? Oh snap!

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you know better dude...