Is it just me...or did that R2 boss fight look bad (and not in a good way)

I mean it looked scripted as hell....Nathan could have taken his time since the monster just stood there and waited for nathan to get across the platform safely before destroying it.

It was so scripted...they should have just had the RE4 style button mashes.

Also is it just me again, or did the graphics on that level look sub-par...even worse then R1. Like the walls had no textures...they were just painted a tan'ish color...and I watched this on G4 on my HDTV and not a crappy stream on GS or G4.com

Thoughts?

It pains me to do this... but yeah I agree TC.... the first time I saw it, I didn't notice.... I was in awe of the size of the thing.... the 2nd time i watched it... I noticed it wasn't as impressive as I had previously thought.

Edit* yeah the graphics were just okay too, nothing too special.

I mean it looked scripted as hell....Nathan could have taken his time since the monster just stood there and waited for nathan to get across the platform safely before destroying it.

It was so scripted...they should have just had the RE4 style button mashes.

Also is it just me again, or did the graphics on that level look sub-par...even worse then R1. Like the walls had no textures...they were just painted a tan'ish color...and I watched this on G4 on my HDTV and not a crappy stream on GS or G4.com

Thoughts?

Adonymous

I absolutely agree, I thought it looked pretty standard. Nothing to write home to mom about.

No one cares what they look like, Gamers arent going to say: "Oh man these graphics suck, that boss has the worst textures, Oh dude! those building doesnt have enough detail!" While playing the game, that would just make them sound stupid.CWEBB04z

well then might as well shut down SW...cause that's ALL gamers do.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]No one cares what they look like, Gamers arent going to say: "Oh man these graphics suck, that boss has the worst textures, Oh dude! those building doesnt have enough detail!" While playing the game, that would just make them sound stupid.Adonymous

well then might as well shut down SW...cause that's ALL gamers do.

im a gamer, and I dont do that. SW is full of kids, not Gamers..

i agree, it looks so scripted and controlled, you felt like you were in a set peice rather than feeling the despiration of fighting a MASSIVE creature. i also took issue with the graphics, the sucked. i could go into more depth but at the mo i CBA.

oh and the boss had a massive ****-me point on its mouth, ****-me points are so cheap.

It was definitely scripted.

Why are you complaining about the scripted plot. The monster threw nathan hale about a 100 feet into another building and didn't die. The monster slamed him on top of a tower, but didn't die. Heck why on earth would the monster place him back on the building after being shot in the mouth. he would have been dropped to hit the ground. R2 look like it is going to be bad man. I didn't think teh first one was good, but this one looks even worse.too_much_eslim

Because if he died in a boss fight he couldn't win. The game would end.

Yeah, it was really scripted. So? Looked like fun.

It looked scripted, but I don't mind. How else are you gonna kill a 500 ft. behemoth?

I'm mainly getting it for the 8 player online co-op.

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why are you complaining about the scripted plot. The monster threw nathan hale about a 100 feet into another building and didn't die. The monster slamed him on top of a tower, but didn't die. Heck why on earth would the monster place him back on the building after being shot in the mouth. he would have been dropped to hit the ground. R2 look like it is going to be bad man. I didn't think teh first one was good, but this one looks even worse.inertk

Because if he died in a boss fight he couldn't win. The game would end.

Yeah, it was really scripted. So? Looked like fun.

If they made a lot of blunders like that this game is going to be A at best.

It looked scripted, but I don't mind. How else are you gonna kill a 500 ft. behemoth?

I'm mainly getting it for the 8 player online co-op.

ChrnoTrigger

They're INSOMNIAC, they create the most innovative weapons in any game (R&C), they can figure it out.

Know how you can further prove this?

You seen the latest Gears of War 2 gameplay vid with the massive burning buildings and levels? take a look at the all the building/wall textures and detail, there is NONE, all that's sacrafised for the massive levels and in this case, massive boss battle.

you'd be an idiot to think this wasn't going to be the case. BUT, this will ONLY be settles and proven WHEN the game hits retail and we see the FINAL VERSION.

improvements COULD be made, so wait and see.

BTW, anyone got a link to a higer rez version of that boss battle?

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

It looked scripted, but I don't mind. How else are you gonna kill a 500 ft. behemoth?

I'm mainly getting it for the 8 player online co-op.

Adonymous

They're INSOMNIAC, they create the most innovative weapons in any game (R&C), they can figure it out.

Well as far as I know, he didn't kill the huge monster before demo ended. So obviously Insomniac is hiding something from us :P

Uuh its a boss fight its supposed to be scripted.skrat_01

scrippted to the point that the monster just stands there...not even taunting you?

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

It looked scripted, but I don't mind. How else are you gonna kill a 500 ft. behemoth?

I'm mainly getting it for the 8 player online co-op.

Adonymous

They're INSOMNIAC, they create the most innovative weapons in any game (R&C), they can figure it out.

Valve wins that award.

Grav Gun, Portal Gun.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

It looked scripted, but I don't mind. How else are you gonna kill a 500 ft. behemoth?

I'm mainly getting it for the 8 player online co-op.

redstormrisen

They're INSOMNIAC, they create the most innovative weapons in any game (R&C), they can figure it out.

Valve wins that award.

Grav Gun, Portal Gun.

Portal gun wasn't really a Valve creation...it was a mod by some college students that Valve then recruited.

[QUOTE="redstormrisen"][QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

It looked scripted, but I don't mind. How else are you gonna kill a 500 ft. behemoth?

I'm mainly getting it for the 8 player online co-op.

Adonymous

They're INSOMNIAC, they create the most innovative weapons in any game (R&C), they can figure it out.

Valve wins that award.

Grav Gun, Portal Gun.

Portal gun wasn't really a Valve creation...it was a mod by some college students that Valve then recruited.

Still, they were then recruited into Valve, making it the companies innovation.

:P

[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why are you complaining about the scripted plot. The monster threw nathan hale about a 100 feet into another building and didn't die. The monster slamed him on top of a tower, but didn't die. Heck why on earth would the monster place him back on the building after being shot in the mouth. he would have been dropped to hit the ground. R2 look like it is going to be bad man. I didn't think teh first one was good, but this one looks even worse.too_much_eslim

Because if he died in a boss fight he couldn't win. The game would end.

Yeah, it was really scripted. So? Looked like fun.

If they made a lot of blunders like that this game is going to be A at best.

Well, he's not a regular human. So I guess that part is excused.

Anyways, to me that scene was about the large scale, how the creature was watching you make your way up the buliding and so forth.

But, since you clearly know better. Why don't you make some suggestions as to hwo to improve that scene?

Funny thing is, that clearly isn't even how you kill the thing. Just how it's avoided.

[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why are you complaining about the scripted plot. The monster threw nathan hale about a 100 feet into another building and didn't die. The monster slamed him on top of a tower, but didn't die. Heck why on earth would the monster place him back on the building after being shot in the mouth. he would have been dropped to hit the ground. R2 look like it is going to be bad man. I didn't think teh first one was good, but this one looks even worse.too_much_eslim

Because if he died in a boss fight he couldn't win. The game would end.

Yeah, it was really scripted. So? Looked like fun.

If they made a lot of blunders like that this game is going to be A at best.

But he isnt a regular human, he has like chaimairan altered genes or something, which is a amjor plot point in the game. Other than that yeah the boss battle looked scripted but i kinda feel like that was all just a lead up to an actual fight than the actual meat of the battle

No one cares what they look like, Gamers arent going to say: "Oh man these graphics suck, that boss has the worst textures, Oh dude! those building doesnt have enough detail!" While playing the game, that would just make them sound stupid.CWEBB04z

Looks like you don't know the cows very well. I don't think cows even play games anymore. They just sit at their TVs and analize every pixel, over, and over with a glazed over look in their eyes.. How do you think they were able to find the smallest differences between the 360, and PS3 versions of Burnout Paradise?

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]Why are you complaining about the scripted plot. The monster threw nathan hale about a 100 feet into another building and didn't die. The monster slamed him on top of a tower, but didn't die. Heck why on earth would the monster place him back on the building after being shot in the mouth. he would have been dropped to hit the ground. R2 look like it is going to be bad man. I didn't think teh first one was good, but this one looks even worse.inertk

Because if he died in a boss fight he couldn't win. The game would end.

Yeah, it was really scripted. So? Looked like fun.

If they made a lot of blunders like that this game is going to be A at best.

Well, he's not a regular human. So I guess that part is excused.

Anyways, to me that scene was about the large scale, how the creature was watching you make your way up the buliding and so forth.

But, since you clearly know better. Why don't you make some suggestions as to hwo to improve that scene?

Funny thing is, that clearly isn't even how you kill the thing. Just how it's avoided.

well for one they could have had the monster start hitting the bridge, doing damage (not necessarliy destorying it) but something that would frighten you and make you want to cross it ASAP...in the vid demo...it looked as if the monster was just standing there waiting for the player to cross a certain point then react.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]No one cares what they look like, Gamers arent going to say: "Oh man these graphics suck, that boss has the worst textures, Oh dude! those building doesnt have enough detail!" While playing the game, that would just make them sound stupid.MortalDecay

Looks like you don't know the cows very well. I don't think cows even play games anymore. They just sit at their TVs and analize every pixel, over, and over with a glazed over look in their eyes.. How do you think they were able to find the smallest differences between the 360, and PS3 versions of Burnout Paradise?

Umm...exact same argument works for lemmings as well.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]No one cares what they look like, Gamers arent going to say: "Oh man these graphics suck, that boss has the worst textures, Oh dude! those building doesnt have enough detail!" While playing the game, that would just make them sound stupid.CWEBB04z

well then might as well shut down SW...cause that's ALL gamers do.

im a gamer, and I dont do that. SW is full of kids, not Gamers..

.......Why are you here?

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]No one cares what they look like, Gamers arent going to say: "Oh man these graphics suck, that boss has the worst textures, Oh dude! those building doesnt have enough detail!" While playing the game, that would just make them sound stupid.Adonymous

Looks like you don't know the cows very well. I don't think cows even play games anymore. They just sit at their TVs and analize every pixel, over, and over with a glazed over look in their eyes.. How do you think they were able to find the smallest differences between the 360, and PS3 versions of Burnout Paradise?

Umm...exact same argument works for lemmings as well.

Lems aren't the rabid graphics whores that the cows have turned into since they got the PS3. Yeah, we can be graphics whores, but I have not seen many lems take it to the level that cows have. And it's all ironic since cows used to be all for gameplay over graphics.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]No one cares what they look like, Gamers arent going to say: "Oh man these graphics suck, that boss has the worst textures, Oh dude! those building doesnt have enough detail!" While playing the game, that would just make them sound stupid.MortalDecay

Looks like you don't know the cows very well. I don't think cows even play games anymore. They just sit at their TVs and analize every pixel, over, and over with a glazed over look in their eyes.. How do you think they were able to find the smallest differences between the 360, and PS3 versions of Burnout Paradise?

Umm...exact same argument works for lemmings as well.

Lems aren't the rabid graphics whores that the cows have turned into since they got the PS3. Yeah, we can be graphics whores, but I have not seen many lems take it to the level that cows have. And it's all ironic since cows used to be all for gameplay over graphics.

Yes they are. Both groups are equally bad. You just don't see it because you're a 360 owner and have a bias toward the 360, much like -Renagade will have a bias toward the PS3.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]No one cares what they look like, Gamers arent going to say: "Oh man these graphics suck, that boss has the worst textures, Oh dude! those building doesnt have enough detail!" While playing the game, that would just make them sound stupid.MortalDecay

Looks like you don't know the cows very well. I don't think cows even play games anymore. They just sit at their TVs and analize every pixel, over, and over with a glazed over look in their eyes.. How do you think they were able to find the smallest differences between the 360, and PS3 versions of Burnout Paradise?

Umm...exact same argument works for lemmings as well.

Lems aren't the rabid graphics whores that the cows have turned into since they got the PS3. Yeah, we can be graphics whores, but I have not seen many lems take it to the level that cows have. And it's all ironic since cows used to be all for gameplay over graphics.

Lemmings tout the graphical superiority of multiplatform games FAR more than cows do.

well for one they could have had the monster start hitting the bridge, doing damage (not necessarliy destorying it) but something that would frighten you and make you want to cross it ASAP...in the vid demo...it looked as if the monster was just standing there waiting for the player to cross a certain point then react.

Adonymous

As far as I know, Hale can't sprint. As I said before, the way the creature watches you as you pass through the area proves to be quite frightening and ominous itself.

It's clear you can't kill it there, just progress to the next area.

However, what you're saying does make sense. I actually agree that it could've been slightly more aggressive.

1.) Looks highly scripted.
2.) This is just the beginning of ONE boss fight out of several that is said be in the game.
3.) Environment textures while figthing the boss look meh (otherwise they look great).
4.) :lol: @ Resistance 2 will be worse than the first one.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Uuh its a boss fight its supposed to be scripted.Adonymous

scrippted to the point that the monster just stands there...not even taunting you?

They could have scripted it to crush the player on the spot.

But that would have been great fun right?

[QUOTE="redstormrisen"][QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

It looked scripted, but I don't mind. How else are you gonna kill a 500 ft. behemoth?

I'm mainly getting it for the 8 player online co-op.

Adonymous

They're INSOMNIAC, they create the most innovative weapons in any game (R&C), they can figure it out.

Valve wins that award.

Grav Gun, Portal Gun.

Portal gun wasn't really a Valve creation...it was a mod by some college students that Valve then recruited.

In nardbacular drop you place portals - which are doors, and walk through them, the 'portal gun' does things quite differently, and the puzzles emphesise that.

But no doubt about it its the students who came up with the idea first.

This is why halo 3 is much better

not scripted massive battles with massive bosses (scarabs)

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Uuh its a boss fight its supposed to be scripted.skrat_01

scrippted to the point that the monster just stands there...not even taunting you?

They could have scripted it to crush the player on the spot.

But that would have been great fun right?

it would really help the experience if the monster tried? like tried hitting the bridge taking the top section off, screaming at you, etc.

This is why halo 3 is much better

not scripted massive battles with massive bosses (scarabs)

Norule04

um, the thing in R2 makes the scarab look like a piss ant.