I'm a lemming...and I think the PS3 is a better value than the xbox360 Elite.

I own a xbox360 and only a xbox360. I'm a huge fan of MS and have been nothing but critical of Sony and the PS3 in the past. However, after much consideration, I've come to the conclusion that the PS3 is a better value than the xbox360 Elite. With a built in high def BlueRay player,  built in WiFi, memory card slot readers, multiple usb ports and built in blue tooth, standard HDMI, the PS3 is packed with features. With my xbox360, I have the WiFi adapter, the HD-DVD drive and the charge kit.

So, as you can see I like to watch high def movies with my xbox360 on my panasonic high def TV. Some of you may not be interested in watching High def movies but I am. Furthermore, as of right now it looks like BlueRay is going to win the format war. So in my oppinion, for me and my interests, the PS3 is a better value.

Does that mean I'm going to go out and purchase the PS3 right now? Wrong! I'm going to give it a year or so more to see how things play out. I never thought I would ever say this but I'm very tempted to switch over to the PS3. The only real thing keeping me with MS and the xbox360 is that 1) I already own a xbox360 and dont want to spend more money on the PS3 right now, 2) xboxlive is amazing, 3) Halo 3.

If Sony can some how get there online service to be on par or evern somewhat close to that of xboxlive and there is a price drop in the somewhat near future, I may be VERY VERY tempted to switch over. I would have never dreamed about doing this until the Elite was anounced.

It's just that the more I think about it and the more I think about what I want in a console and what I will be using the console for, the PS3 is starting to look more of a better value and more future proof than what the xbox360 currently offers. It also maked me kinda nervous that MS is always looking to change and revise the xbox360. I dont want to keep buying the system and then finding out later there is going to be a better version that is going to be released. I dont think that will happen to the PS3 on such a scale. I will give it another year to see how things play out. For now I will continue to use my xbox360.

I too am a 360 only guy, the Elite kind of really shows how the pS3 is a good deal.

I will stick with 360, but I due to the ELITE, I don't hate the PS3 as much as I used too. M$ screwed up, it isn't ELITE Enough.

The Elite is what made me want a 360 over a PS3. It's everything I could want in a game system. The PS3 isn't a value for me - it lacks games in a way that is simply unbeliveable. I've already waited a year and a half to get a system, I'm not going to spend another year being miserable while I wait for a game that appeals to me to come out on the PS3.

And seriously - you're not lemmings, enough. ddldave, c'mon man, MGS4 icon and sig *shakes head*  

The Elite is what made me want a 360 over a PS3. It's everything I could want in a game system. The PS3 isn't a value for me - it lacks games in a way that is simply unbeliveable. I've already waited a year and a half to get a system, I'm not going to spend another year being miserable while I wait for a game that appeals to me to come out on the PS3.

 

And seriously - you're not lemmings, enough. ddldave, c'mon man, MGS4 icon and sig *shakes head*

subrosian

That isn't true. Youve been pro360 for a LONG time now. As far as teh PS3 not working for you, I have a 360 Ican relate, but don't try to pretend that until the eLITE you were mr. Pro Sony here, because you haven't been and definatly are not.

You ve led the Anti PS3 charge for awhile, the Elite has nothing to do with you liking it over the PS3, you liked the Pro over the PS3 ater all. 

[QUOTE="Giancar"]The Sony online service will be amazing....I can't wait to the PSHome beta.... I also agree, where's the HD DVD built in???? or WI FI?subrosian

Okay forget that, for $20 you can get a NExt Generation Format Player...that's awesome. For another $50, you hcan have upgrade that $500 PS3's HDD to 200gigs if you wanted(Not neededuntil Sony has a better service. For gaming 20gigs is just fine, i have a 360 after all for over a year now. 20gigs fine for gamers.)

In the end, the Elite shows consumers that the PS3 is a value, and I don't hate the PS3 as much as I used to do to M$ forgetting to put in HDDVD or Bluray Playback.

The Elite is what made me want a 360 over a PS3. It's everything I could want in a game system. The PS3 isn't a value for me - it lacks games in a way that is simply unbeliveable. I've already waited a year and a half to get a system, I'm not going to spend another year being miserable while I wait for a game that appeals to me to come out on the PS3.

 

And seriously - you're not lemmings, enough. ddldave, c'mon man, MGS4 icon and sig *shakes head*  

subrosian

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Giancar"]The Sony online service will be amazing....I can't wait to the PSHome beta.... I also agree, where's the HD DVD built in???? or WI FI?XTy

Okay forget that, for $20 you can get a NExt Generation Format Player...that's awesome. For another $50, you hcan have upgrade that $500 PS3's HDD to 200gigs if you wanted(Not neededuntil Sony has a better service. For gaming 20gigs is just fine, i have a 360 after all for over a year now. 20gigs fine for gamers.)

In the end, the Elite shows consumers that the PS3 is a value, and I don't hate the PS3 as much as I used to do to M$ forgetting to put in HDDVD or Bluray Playback.

anyone who is not an blind fanboy realizes ps3 is a better value then the xbox 360.InfamousC

I own a xbox360 and only a xbox360. I'm a huge fan of MS and have been nothing but critical of Sony and the PS3 in the past. However, after much consideration, I've come to the conclusion that the PS3 is a better value than the xbox360 Elite. With a built in high def BlueRay player,  built in WiFi, memory card slot readers, multiple usb ports and built in blue tooth, standard HDMI, the PS3 is packed with features. With my xbox360, I have the WiFi adapter, the HD-DVD drive and the charge kit.

So, as you can see I like to watch high def movies with my xbox360 on my panasonic high def TV. Some of you may not be interested in watching High def movies but I am. Furthermore, as of right now it looks like BlueRay is going to win the format war. So in my oppinion, for me and my interests, the PS3 is a better value.

Does that mean I'm going to go out and purchase the PS3 right now? Wrong! I'm going to give it a year or so more to see how things play out. I never thought I would ever say this but I'm very tempted to switch over to the PS3. The only real thing keeping me with MS and the xbox360 is that 1) I already own a xbox360 and dont want to spend more money on the PS3 right now, 2) xboxlive is amazing, 3) Halo 3.

If Sony can some how get there online service to be on par or evern somewhat close to that of xboxlive and there is a price drop in the somewhat near future, I may be VERY VERY tempted to switch over. I would have never dreamed about doing this until the Elite was anounced.

It's just that the more I think about it and the more I think about what I want in a console and what I will be using the console for, the PS3 is starting to look more of a better value and more future proof than what the xbox360 currently offers. It also maked me kinda nervous that MS is always looking to change and revise the xbox360. I dont want to keep buying the system and then finding out later there is going to be a better version that is going to be released. I dont think that will happen to the PS3 on such a scale. I will give it another year to see how things play out. For now I will continue to use my xbox360.

neversummer75

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Giancar"]The Sony online service will be amazing....I can't wait to the PSHome beta.... I also agree, where's the HD DVD built in???? or WI FI?XTy

Okay forget that, for $20 you can get a NExt Generation Format Player...that's awesome. For another $50, you hcan have upgrade that $500 PS3's HDD to 200gigs if you wanted(Not neededuntil Sony has a better service. For gaming 20gigs is just fine, i have a 360 after all for over a year now. 20gigs fine for gamers.)

In the end, the Elite shows consumers that the PS3 is a value, and I don't hate the PS3 as much as I used to do to M$ forgetting to put in HDDVD or Bluray Playback.

[QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Giancar"]The Sony online service will be amazing....I can't wait to the PSHome beta.... I also agree, where's the HD DVD built in???? or WI FI?subrosian

Okay forget that, for $20 you can get a NExt Generation Format Player...that's awesome. For another $50, you hcan have upgrade that $500 PS3's HDD to 200gigs if you wanted(Not neededuntil Sony has a better service. For gaming 20gigs is just fine, i have a 360 after all for over a year now. 20gigs fine for gamers.)

In the end, the Elite shows consumers that the PS3 is a value, and I don't hate the PS3 as much as I used to do to M$ forgetting to put in HDDVD or Bluray Playback.

[QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Giancar"]The Sony online service will be amazing....I can't wait to the PSHome beta.... I also agree, where's the HD DVD built in???? or WI FI?subrosian

Okay forget that, for $20 you can get a NExt Generation Format Player...that's awesome. For another $50, you hcan have upgrade that $500 PS3's HDD to 200gigs if you wanted(Not neededuntil Sony has a better service. For gaming 20gigs is just fine, i have a 360 after all for over a year now. 20gigs fine for gamers.)

In the end, the Elite shows consumers that the PS3 is a value, and I don't hate the PS3 as much as I used to do to M$ forgetting to put in HDDVD or Bluray Playback.

You make some very good points. As of now, thats one of the only things keeping me from switching over to the PS3. This gen I will only be owing one system because of money constraints. For me, I want a system that plays great games and it also a multimedia powerhouse. I love watching high Def movies on my xbox360 HD-DVD drive. It just looks amazing. However, its looking like Blue Ray is going to win out. Furthermore, the PS3 with built in Blue Ray is only 20 bucks more than the xbox360 Elite. It also comes with standard HDMI, blue tooth and other pretty cool featurs. Like I said, I will give it another year to see how things play out.

But if Sony can deliver on some really cool games and on online service thats close to xboxlive, I think I will be switching to the PS3. After some serious thought, I've just come to the conlusion that the PS3 was better thought out and planned for the future needs of gamers as well as multimedia buffs such as myself. Who knows how many more times MS will revampe the xbox360 and release a "new and better" version. Makes me nervous. I'm just starting to lose some confidence in MS and the xbox360. I sure will miss Halo!!!

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]anyone who is not an blind fanboy realizes ps3 is a better value then the xbox 360.neversummer75

I'm not a lemming, but I still agree :PCyberfairy

Same here

[QUOTE="neversummer75"]

I own a xbox360 and only a xbox360. I'm a huge fan of MS and have been nothing but critical of Sony and the PS3 in the past. However, after much consideration, I've come to the conclusion that the PS3 is a better value than the xbox360 Elite. With a built in high def BlueRay player,  built in WiFi, memory card slot readers, multiple usb ports and built in blue tooth, standard HDMI, the PS3 is packed with features. With my xbox360, I have the WiFi adapter, the HD-DVD drive and the charge kit.

So, as you can see I like to watch high def movies with my xbox360 on my panasonic high def TV. Some of you may not be interested in watching High def movies but I am. Furthermore, as of right now it looks like BlueRay is going to win the format war. So in my oppinion, for me and my interests, the PS3 is a better value.

Does that mean I'm going to go out and purchase the PS3 right now? Wrong! I'm going to give it a year or so more to see how things play out. I never thought I would ever say this but I'm very tempted to switch over to the PS3. The only real thing keeping me with MS and the xbox360 is that 1) I already own a xbox360 and dont want to spend more money on the PS3 right now, 2) xboxlive is amazing, 3) Halo 3.

If Sony can some how get there online service to be on par or evern somewhat close to that of xboxlive and there is a price drop in the somewhat near future, I may be VERY VERY tempted to switch over. I would have never dreamed about doing this until the Elite was anounced.

It's just that the more I think about it and the more I think about what I want in a console and what I will be using the console for, the PS3 is starting to look more of a better value and more future proof than what the xbox360 currently offers. It also maked me kinda nervous that MS is always looking to change and revise the xbox360. I dont want to keep buying the system and then finding out later there is going to be a better version that is going to be released. I dont think that will happen to the PS3 on such a scale. I will give it another year to see how things play out. For now I will continue to use my xbox360.

CwlHeddwyn

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="neversummer75"]

I own a xbox360 and only a xbox360. I'm a huge fan of MS and have been nothing but critical of Sony and the PS3 in the past. However, after much consideration, I've come to the conclusion that the PS3 is a better value than the xbox360 Elite. With a built in high def BlueRay player,  built in WiFi, memory card slot readers, multiple usb ports and built in blue tooth, standard HDMI, the PS3 is packed with features. With my xbox360, I have the WiFi adapter, the HD-DVD drive and the charge kit.

So, as you can see I like to watch high def movies with my xbox360 on my panasonic high def TV. Some of you may not be interested in watching High def movies but I am. Furthermore, as of right now it looks like BlueRay is going to win the format war. So in my oppinion, for me and my interests, the PS3 is a better value.

Does that mean I'm going to go out and purchase the PS3 right now? Wrong! I'm going to give it a year or so more to see how things play out. I never thought I would ever say this but I'm very tempted to switch over to the PS3. The only real thing keeping me with MS and the xbox360 is that 1) I already own a xbox360 and dont want to spend more money on the PS3 right now, 2) xboxlive is amazing, 3) Halo 3.

If Sony can some how get there online service to be on par or evern somewhat close to that of xboxlive and there is a price drop in the somewhat near future, I may be VERY VERY tempted to switch over. I would have never dreamed about doing this until the Elite was anounced.

It's just that the more I think about it and the more I think about what I want in a console and what I will be using the console for, the PS3 is starting to look more of a better value and more future proof than what the xbox360 currently offers. It also maked me kinda nervous that MS is always looking to change and revise the xbox360. I dont want to keep buying the system and then finding out later there is going to be a better version that is going to be released. I dont think that will happen to the PS3 on such a scale. I will give it another year to see how things play out. For now I will continue to use my xbox360.

neversummer75

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Giancar"]The Sony online service will be amazing....I can't wait to the PSHome beta.... I also agree, where's the HD DVD built in???? or WI FI?neversummer75

Okay forget that, for $20 you can get a NExt Generation Format Player...that's awesome. For another $50, you hcan have upgrade that $500 PS3's HDD to 200gigs if you wanted(Not neededuntil Sony has a better service. For gaming 20gigs is just fine, i have a 360 after all for over a year now. 20gigs fine for gamers.)

In the end, the Elite shows consumers that the PS3 is a value, and I don't hate the PS3 as much as I used to do to M$ forgetting to put in HDDVD or Bluray Playback.

You make some very good points. As of now, thats one of the only things keeping me from switching over to the PS3. This gen I will only be owing one system because of money constraints. For me, I want a system that plays great games and it also a multimedia powerhouse. I love watching high Def movies on my xbox360 HD-DVD drive. It just looks amazing. However, its looking like Blue Ray is going to win out. Furthermore, the PS3 with built in Blue Ray is only 20 bucks more than the xbox360 Elite. It also comes with standard HDMI, blue tooth and other pretty cool featurs. Like I said, I will give it another year to see how things play out.

But if Sony can deliver on some really cool games and on online service thats close to xboxlive, I think I will be switching to the PS3. After some serious thought, I've just come to the conlusion that the PS3 was better thought out and planned for the future needs of gamers as well as multimedia buffs such as myself. Who knows how many more times MS will revampe the xbox360 and release a "new and better" version. Makes me nervous. I'm just starting to lose some confidence in MS and the xbox360. I sure will miss Halo!!!

didgital movie downloads arent a great option for a lot of people or most people. how are you gonna let people borrow a movie ? well you cant, what if the drive craps out ? you gonna have to download those movies all over again, most people just want physical mediums they can show off to people, stack next to their TV, and let people borrow and its more comfortable to just have the movie in ur hands. they are playing this digital download thing to serious and thats dangerous. and many companies still arent comfortable with the idea due to piracy issuesMe_Ur_Daddy_

didgital movie downloads arent a great option for a lot of people or most people. how are you gonna let people borrow a movie ? well you cant, what if the drive craps out ? you gonna have to download those movies all over again, most people just want physical mediums they can show off to people, stack next to their TV, and let people borrow and its more comfortable to just have the movie in ur hands. they are playing this digital download thing to serious and thats dangerous. and many companies still arent comfortable with the idea due to piracy issuesMe_Ur_Daddy_

Exactly. I am not wasting my day/days  d/l 1080P TV shows, WTF is that.

Truth is Sony is SONY PICTURES. The best HD movies/ TV  shows are gonna SONY HAD THINGS. even if they weren't it doesn't matter.

Becuase when I make the HD switch I am looking 1080P movies. 35+ Gb of 7.1 losses audio and 1080  horizontal lines refreashed progressively

[QUOTE="Me_Ur_Daddy_"]didgital movie downloads arent a great option for a lot of people or most people. how are you gonna let people borrow a movie ? well you cant, what if the drive craps out ? you gonna have to download those movies all over again, most people just want physical mediums they can show off to people, stack next to their TV, and let people borrow and its more comfortable to just have the movie in ur hands. they are playing this digital download thing to serious and thats dangerous. and many companies still arent comfortable with the idea due to piracy issuesneversummer75

It's people's lack of fore sight which leads to all this negative PS3 press.

Like PS3 with Linux OS, Blu-ray, Cell, 60Gb HDD so just too much and unneeded

Its just like a Cell phones with Camera, expandable storage, webbrowsers

thing is these things are defacto standard with time

with i think will win things for PS3, People in time should Buy HD TV and come then they'll realise what good a PS3 is to have

[QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="Me_Ur_Daddy_"]didgital movie downloads arent a great option for a lot of people or most people. how are you gonna let people borrow a movie ? well you cant, what if the drive craps out ? you gonna have to download those movies all over again, most people just want physical mediums they can show off to people, stack next to their TV, and let people borrow and its more comfortable to just have the movie in ur hands. they are playing this digital download thing to serious and thats dangerous. and many companies still arent comfortable with the idea due to piracy issuesBlinblingthing

It's people's lack of fore sight which leads to all this negative PS3 press.

Like PS3 with Linux OS, Blu-ray, Cell, 60Gb HDD so just too much and unneeded

Its just like a Cell phones with Camera, expandable storage, webbrowsers

thing is these things are defacto standard with time

with i think will win things for PS3, People in time should Buy HD TV and come then they'll realise what good a PS3 is to have

After i got a HD TV i saw why i would like a HD DVD or a Bluray build in on my console i could easy buy a movie and watch... but after i have a system i don't like the idea of buying a 200 add-on.. and after reading some articles about HD DVD add-on having some really poor quality, i can say "I need a HD movie player" and that's when Sony gets me!and don't like the idea of download movies

My HDTV can't even do 1080P so i prefer the 360 with the games.X360PS3AMD05

That's not a good reason, the PS3 does 1080i, 720p as well.

That's a lame reason.

I like the xbox, but that statement is asinine. 

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="neversummer75"][QUOTE="Me_Ur_Daddy_"]didgital movie downloads arent a great option for a lot of people or most people. how are you gonna let people borrow a movie ? well you cant, what if the drive craps out ? you gonna have to download those movies all over again, most people just want physical mediums they can show off to people, stack next to their TV, and let people borrow and its more comfortable to just have the movie in ur hands. they are playing this digital download thing to serious and thats dangerous. and many companies still arent comfortable with the idea due to piracy issuessubrosian

It's people's lack of fore sight which leads to all this negative PS3 press.

Like PS3 with Linux OS, Blu-ray, Cell, 60Gb HDD so just too much and unneeded

Its just like a Cell phones with Camera, expandable storage, webbrowsers

thing is these things are defacto standard with time

with i think will win things for PS3, People in time should Buy HD TV and come then they'll realise what good a PS3 is to have

My point is devices today do what multiple devices did yesterday.

How many people are into cellphones w/o cameras???? MP3 enabled, web capable. Just about 50 - 70% of people I work with have them. about 50% of motorolla profits were of RAZR phones. whats that tell you?

People have moved on bound this yester year thinking. Multi media capable devices are on the rise. shouldn't gaming consoles do the same?

I believe so

It also maked me kinda nervous that MS is always looking to change and revise the xbox360. I dont want to keep buying the system and then finding out later there is going to be a better version that is going to be released. I dont think that will happen to the PS3 on such a scale.neversummer75

NO NO and NO.

 If you're a lemming buy ELITE!!!

 yeah, I want all you fanboys money wasted! NOW!