If PC piracy is defeated: Why DOESNT EVERY SINGLE publisher flock to DENUVO?

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#1 True_Gamer_
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FIFA 15 crack still not stable or deosnt work on most pcs at all!

FIFA 16 still no crack 2 months later

Lords of Fallen approaching 1 year not cracked!

What will happen to consoles after PC piracy is finally put to rest?

There wont be a point for console DRMbox existence!!

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#2  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Ar matey, yee wont be getting away for long.

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#3  Edited By lundy86_4
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What is it with you and updating if a game can be pirated or not? Who gives a shit?

I have little to no understanding with regards to the costs of Denuvo DRM to a publsiher, so I can't even give an (un)informed opinion.

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#4 UltimateImp
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A simple search tells me that Lords of The Fallen has been tamed down, and cracked.

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#5  Edited By Snugenz
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@True_Gamer_ said:

FIFA 15 crack still not stable or deosnt work on most pcs at all!

A: Nobody on PC cares

FIFA 16 still no crack 2 months later

B: Nobody on PC cares

Lords of Fallen approaching 1 year not cracked!

C: Nobody cares

What will happen to consoles after PC piracy is finally put to rest?

There wont be a point for console DRMbox existence!!

Games that people do care about on PC still get cracked wide open with or without Denuvo from what i've noticed.

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#6 thehig1
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Fifa 15 works fine cracked if you stay offline, i bought it on origin because i wanted online access for sqaud updates and much needed patches.

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#7 True_Gamer_
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I guess u have zero clue as of how cracking groups work like!!!

Why do they crack PES2016 in hours? And 2 months no crack for FIFA 16?

@Snugenz said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

FIFA 15 crack still not stable or deosnt work on most pcs at all!

A: Nobody on PC cares

FIFA 16 still no crack 2 months later

B: Nobody on PC cares

Lords of Fallen approaching 1 year not cracked!

C: Nobody cares

What will happen to consoles after PC piracy is finally put to rest?

There wont be a point for console DRMbox existence!!

Games that people do care about on PC still get cracked wide open with or without Denuvo from what i've noticed.

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#8 lostrib
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Weren't you bragging about how you and your friends were basically pirating TW3?

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#9 True_Gamer_
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@lostrib said:

Weren't you bragging about how you and your friends were basically pirating TW3?

Same way as Gamestop?

BTW do you buy a game or the license to play it?

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#10 lostrib
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@True_Gamer_ said:
@lostrib said:

Weren't you bragging about how you and your friends were basically pirating TW3?

Same way as Gamestop?

How is it the same as gamestop?

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#11 True_Gamer_
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@lostrib said:
@True_Gamer_ said:
@lostrib said:

Weren't you bragging about how you and your friends were basically pirating TW3?

Same way as Gamestop?

How is it the same as gamestop?

If one purchases the license to play game the Gamestop is also pirating by reselling licenses

If one purchases and OWNS the game and code one can do whatever one wishes!

Simple as that!

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#12  Edited By lamprey263
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then they'll just wait for the $.01 Humble Bundle

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#13  Edited By lundy86_4
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@True_Gamer_: What? You cannot just rip and distribute copies of a game if you purchase a sole copy.

Is that what you are saying?

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#14  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@True_Gamer_ said:
@lostrib said:
@True_Gamer_ said:
@lostrib said:

Weren't you bragging about how you and your friends were basically pirating TW3?

Same way as Gamestop?

How is it the same as gamestop?

If one purchases the license to play game the Gamestop is also pirating by reselling licenses

If one purchases and OWNS the game and code one can do whatever one wishes!

Simple as that!

That doesnt mean you can partake in the illegal distribution of others content. Pirates who have no respect for others rights need to learn how the real world works.

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#15  Edited By True_Gamer_
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@mesome713: AKA what Gamestop is doin!!

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#16 True_Gamer_
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@lundy86_4 said:

@True_Gamer_: What? You cannot just rip and distribute copies of a game if you purchase a sole copy.

Is that what you are saying?

Nope You cannot resell a LICENSE to use!!! So you CANNOT resell ANY game!

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#17 lundy86_4
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@True_Gamer_: As in a disc-based game, and the license for use? The used market is 100% legal.

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#18  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@True_Gamer_ said:

@mesome713: AKA what Gamestop is doin!!

Gamestop has permission to resale used games, they are not partaking in illegal activity. You also have the right to resale used games.

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#19 lundy86_4
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TC has directed this topic into a condemnation of the used market, and still comes out as being wrong. Wow.

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#20 YearoftheSnake5
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PC piracy isn't defeated and I seriously doubt it will ever be. Where there is a will, there is a way.

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#21 R4gn4r0k
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What a weird thread.

@lamprey263 said:

then they'll just wait for the $.01 Humble Bundle

What is it now ? 10 million or more from Humble Bundle to charity ? Damn, cheap PC gamers... :P

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#22 SuperFlyZero
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SW allows topics about pirating?

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#23  Edited By lundy86_4
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@superflyzero: As a discussion, it's fine. You obviously aren't allowed to tell people how to pirate. Same with emulating games.

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#24 SuperFlyZero
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@lundy86_4: Got it. But how does this topic relate to this board, I wonder?

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#25 lundy86_4
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@superflyzero: We discuss all sorts, and it's not always directly system vs. system. TC is a bit annoying, with his constant condemnation of the used market as being just as hurtful as piracy. It's the usual drivel.

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#26  Edited By Snugenz
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@True_Gamer_ said:

I guess u have zero clue as of how cracking groups work like!!!

Why do they crack PES2016 in hours? And 2 months no crack for FIFA 16?

@Snugenz said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

FIFA 15 crack still not stable or deosnt work on most pcs at all!

A: Nobody on PC cares

FIFA 16 still no crack 2 months later

B: Nobody on PC cares

Lords of Fallen approaching 1 year not cracked!

C: Nobody cares

What will happen to consoles after PC piracy is finally put to rest?

There wont be a point for console DRMbox existence!!

Games that people do care about on PC still get cracked wide open with or without Denuvo from what i've noticed.

I'm gonna go ahead and believe that the amount of effort a cracking group puts into a game is based entirely on the demand of that game. Obviously games with Denovo protection will take much more effort so they would need much more demand for the cracking groups to bother with them.

Did PES2016 use Denovo protection?.

DA:I was a big game with Denovo, and correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't that cracked pretty quickly. Games like FIFA have no real audience on PC, they've always been console preferred games with a very tiny percentage of the fanbase on PC.

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#28  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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I cracked Fifa 15 without any problem. Deleted after 2h of play because I no longer have time for sport games. Was just checking it out.

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#29  Edited By naz99
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Its an OPEN platform piracy will never be defeated it comes hand in hand with non restricted platforms 100% of the time,its all about minimizing the effect of it and they have done a damn good job at that.

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#30 LegatoSkyheart
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OP is supporting Piracy and this thread is still open?

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@LegatoSkyheart said:

OP is supporting Piracy and this thread is still open?

Supporting how? Advocating how?

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#32  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@True_Gamer_ said:

FIFA 15 crack still not stable or deosnt work on most pcs at all!

FIFA 16 still no crack 2 months later

Lords of Fallen approaching 1 year not cracked!

What will happen to consoles after PC piracy is finally put to rest?

There wont be a point for console DRMbox existence!!

Lords of the fallen has been cracked for a while now.

Obviously I can't supply proof here, just google it.

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#33 True_Gamer_
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@Snugenz said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

I guess u have zero clue as of how cracking groups work like!!!

Why do they crack PES2016 in hours? And 2 months no crack for FIFA 16?

@Snugenz said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

FIFA 15 crack still not stable or deosnt work on most pcs at all!

A: Nobody on PC cares

FIFA 16 still no crack 2 months later

B: Nobody on PC cares

Lords of Fallen approaching 1 year not cracked!

C: Nobody cares

What will happen to consoles after PC piracy is finally put to rest?

There wont be a point for console DRMbox existence!!

Games that people do care about on PC still get cracked wide open with or without Denuvo from what i've noticed.

I'm gonna go ahead and believe that the amount of effort a cracking group puts into a game is based entirely on the demand of that game. Obviously games with Denovo protection will take much more effort so they would need much more demand for the cracking groups to bother with them.

Did PES2016 use Denovo protection?.

DA:I was a big game with Denovo, and correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't that cracked pretty quickly. Games like FIFA have no real audience on PC, they've always been console preferred games with a very tiny percentage of the fanbase on PC.

Nope

The bragging rights of a game NOT cracked are valued above all!!

And with FIFA being touted as a NOT cracked game for months I doubt that the groups are feeling nice about it...

Its just takes months to crack each new Denuvo DRM...

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@True_Gamer_ said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:

OP is supporting Piracy and this thread is still open?

Supporting how? Advocating how?

Condoning it by claiming used games are the same practice. Such a bullshit argument.

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@superflyzero said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

Supporting how? Advocating how?

Condoning it by claiming used games are the same practice. Such a bullshit argument.

Pretty much. True Gamer not so True. Go figure.

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#36 True_Gamer_
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@superflyzero said:
@True_Gamer_ said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:

OP is supporting Piracy and this thread is still open?

Supporting how? Advocating how?

Condoning it by claiming used games are the same practice. Such a bullshit argument.

If u sell used licenses

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@True_Gamer_ said:
@superflyzero said:

Condoning it by claiming used games are the same practice. Such a bullshit argument.

If u sell used licenses

Except Gamestop and all other Used Shops have the rights to sell such "licenses". You do know how the Used market works right?

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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@True_Gamer_ said:
@superflyzero said:

Condoning it by claiming used games are the same practice. Such a bullshit argument.

If u sell used licenses

Except Gamestop and all other Used Shops have the rights to sell such "licenses". You do know how the Used market works right?

On physical goods not personal home use licenses....It is just being tolerated.

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#39 Snugenz
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@True_Gamer_ said:

Nope

The bragging rights of a game NOT cracked are valued above all!!

And with FIFA being touted as a NOT cracked game for months I doubt that the groups are feeling nice about it...

Its just takes months to crack each new Denuvo DRM...

Yeaaah, i'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that, i think i'm done with this silliness.

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@True_Gamer_ said:
@superflyzero said:
@True_Gamer_ said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:

OP is supporting Piracy and this thread is still open?

Supporting how? Advocating how?

Condoning it by claiming used games are the same practice. Such a bullshit argument.

If u sell used licenses

Semantics won't save your weak position. It's my theory that pc gamers' view of this is biased due to their library by and large consisting of digital titles.

If you can afford the price of the hardware, there's no excuse for not paying for your games in a legit fashion. Giving poor reasons to justify such questionable character is unbecoming of decent people.

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@Snugenz said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

Nope

The bragging rights of a game NOT cracked are valued above all!!

And with FIFA being touted as a NOT cracked game for months I doubt that the groups are feeling nice about it...

Its just takes months to crack each new Denuvo DRM...

Yeaaah, i'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that, i think i'm done with this silliness.

Reality of FIFA remaining uncracked for months second year in a row will not change

Check the track record of every single FIFA on PC prior to 15-16...So what they used to be popular and not anymore?

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@superflyzero said:
@True_Gamer_ said:
@superflyzero said:
@True_Gamer_ said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:

OP is supporting Piracy and this thread is still open?

Supporting how? Advocating how?

Condoning it by claiming used games are the same practice. Such a bullshit argument.

If u sell used licenses

Semantics won't save your weak position. It's my theory that pc gamers' view of this is biased due to their library by and large consisting of digital titles.

If you can afford the price of the hardware, there's no excuse for not paying for your games in a legit fashion. Giving poor reasons to justify such questionable character is unbecoming of decent people.

If you can afford consoles you can afford new games.

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#43  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@True_Gamer_ said:

On physical goods not personal home use licenses....It is just being tolerated.

I don't even know what you're gawking about. To my knowledge Gamestop does sell Keys to Downloaded content, but they can't accept any digital rights considering they're locked to your account and such. There's no physical way to accept something like that.

But in dealing with Physical discs they can sell and buy back with ease. Even if a game had a Digital Online Pass they can still sell that disc back to you, you would just need to buy the Online Pass to go Online.

I'm just going to call bullshit on whatever argument you're holding because whatever it is that you're accusing of Gamestop of doing that justifies your "actions" is just bullshit.

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#44 True_Gamer_
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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

On physical goods not personal home use licenses....It is just being tolerated.

I don't even know what you're gawking about. To my knowledge Gamestop does sell Keys to Downloaded content, but they can't accept any digital rights considering they're locked to your account and such. There's no physical way to accept something like that.

But in dealing with Physical discs they can sell and buy back with ease. Even if a game had a Digital Online Pass they can still sell that disc back to you, you would just need to buy the Online Pass to go Online.

I'm just going to call bullshit on whatever argument you're holding because whatever it is that you're accusing of Gamestop of doing that justifies your "actions" is just bullshit.

The license agreement on every game is clear

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#45  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@True_Gamer_ said:

The license agreement on every game is clear

Yeah, but you're bitching that Fifa and Pes whatever the **** aren't cracked. What the hell does Gamestop have to do with you complaining about Piracy actions?

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#46 foxhound_fox
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Piracy has been and always will be a supply issue.

Services like Steam and GOG have been beating the piracy problem for ages now.

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#47 SuperFlyZero
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@True_Gamer_ said:

If you can afford consoles you can afford new games.

Not the same and you know it, not by a long shot. One is legal, one is not. Stop hiding behind such nonsense and stop breaking the law. We pay for what we get, and that copy has been bought legit. When you pirate, you take what doesn't belong to you.

We have a right to buy and sell that which has already been paid for within the laws of our country, but you don't have the right to obtain it for free.

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#48 True_Gamer_
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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@True_Gamer_ said:

The license agreement on every game is clear

Yeah, but you're bitching that Fifa and Pes whatever the **** aren't cracked. What the hell does Gamestop have to do with you complaining about Piracy actions?

Where did I bitch about them not being cracked? I just stated an antipiracy victory

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#49  Edited By lundy86_4
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@True_Gamer_: Could you quote specifically where any EULA prohibits the selling on of a disc-based game? I'd like to see the specific wording.

Regardless, the First-Sale Doctrine overrules any EULA.

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#50 LegatoSkyheart
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@True_Gamer_ said:

Where did I bitch about them not being cracked? I just stated an antipiracy victory

Why did you point it out then? Such a worthless argument.