If not for the slight tech flaws.ME would be a 10.Should be 9.5. NOT 8.5 PERIOD

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#1 Fuzzy_Munch
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If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

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Why do you care about a review score? If you play it and like it then enjoy it.
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If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

Fuzzy_Munch

But the game does have some slight technical flaws...so it flops. I'm a lemming and I ****ing loving this game but I'm not a douche who's going to say it is not a flop.

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#4 Fuzzy_Munch
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Why do you care about a review score? If you play it and like it then enjoy it.comstrikeiscool

Well true i don't really and the game is AMAZING.

But it just puts a bad taste in peoples mouths when the truth is not be told.

the whole no aim sight thing on the rover when driving is just a COMPLETE line of BS makes you really wonder did this guy really even play this game?

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Well I guess it depends on the person. Technical flaws like texture pop in, pop-up, and unstable frame-rates kill a game for me. I like my games really polished.
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#6 Fuzzy_Munch
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[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

Frostbite24

But the game does have some slight technical flaws...so it flops. I'm a lemming and I ****ing loving this game but I'm not a douche who's going to say it is not a flop.

And as i said you should take .5 for this not 1.5. Becuase truly the game is better then any other RPG to date especialy the combat system. Like i said it really is 10 and should be marked to 9.5 .5 off for tech flaws.

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#7 Kook18
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you're the type that wants reviewers to hand out 9+ to any game you enjoy. Mass Effect was great without a doubt. But it did not come without it's flaws. I'd rather game reviewers be tough on games. I may write a great paper for my english class, but if it has too many typos and grammatical errors, it will not get an A. this is the 7th gen of gaming, devs need to be held more accountable of getting their **** in order. 60 bucks a pop isn't cheap, especially for some of the games i haven't touched since i ran trough them maybe once or twice.
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#8 shsonline
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He's right. The review was horrid. You would believe based on the review that the game was broken due to the occasional technical hiccups, but in fact you got so engrossed in the story and eager to continue playing that they never EVER got in the way of enjoying the game. It was this score for me that made me decide not to take GS scoring seriously.

This was one of the best games of the year and a GOTY candidate. I hated having the game end and I am SO looking forward to the next one. Especially if your choices carry over.

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wow, lemmings are going crazy over their glitchy failure

hell, EDGE gave it a 7 which is the score it really deserves

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#10 Fuzzy_Munch
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wow, lemmings are going crazy over their glitchy failure

hell, EDGE gave it a 7 which is the score it really deserves

the_h_bomb

A 7:roll: You are kidding right. Noone in there right mind can say this game is a 7. And ones that do are not in there right mind.

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#11 the_h_bomb
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A 7:roll: You are kidding right. Noone in there right mind can say this game is a 7. And ones that do are not in there right mind.

Fuzzy_Munch

lol

EDGE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You

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It flopped get over it, they aren't going to change the score and the score doesn't effect your enjoyment of the game
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#13 akif22
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but it DOES have tech flaws

you can't expect all reviewers to ignore them .. they do affect the enjoyment of games, affecting more people more than others

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#14 Kook18
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wow, lemmings are going crazy over their glitchy failure

hell, EDGE gave it a 7 which is the score it really deserves

the_h_bomb
Not even close. stop trolling. the game deserves a high 8. It does almost everything extremely well for a futuristic RPG sans a few gameplay hiccups that are almost synonymous with the bioware brand of games. there are a few unpolished parts in ME, but a 7.0 game it does not make. it isn't a perfect game either, fixes need to be made in the combat spectrum for the sequel.
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Tech flaws are what murdered Lair so be happy.
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I trult think GS is no longer credible. They are almost as bad as 1up at this point.

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#17 DaveyDeathblade
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Technical flaws are a big deal to alot of people.

I think if if you are going to release a game you should get all of the major visual glitches out of it and get it locked at 30FPS before pushing it out the door.

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#18 meetroid8
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The real reason GS gave it such a low score was because they were dissapointed that it was just another shooter with RPG elements and a conversation system. Its an amazing AAA game but it wasn't really an RPG at all.
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#19 Fuzzy_Munch
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Technical flaws are a big deal to alot of people.

I think if if you are going to release a game you should get all of the major visual glitches out of it and get it locked at 30FPS before pushing it out the door.

DaveyDeathblade

And Oblivion backs this up right? ME is better in everything then Oblivion. Yet 9.6 8.5

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Well I guess it depends on the person. Technical flaws like texture pop in, pop-up, and unstable frame-rates kill a game for me. I like my games really polished.Zerostatic0

What would you consider the most polished game you have played in the 3D era JOOC?

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Same can be said of many PC titles that get scored low because of technical flaws like The Witcher, Stalker........
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#22 Kook18
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Technical flaws are a big deal to alot of people.

I think if if you are going to release a game you should get all of the major visual glitches out of it and get it locked at 30FPS before pushing it out the door.

DaveyDeathblade

exactly. giving a technically flawed game a 10/10 is just telling the dev its fine to not check for this stuff; it doesn't matter.

this is hard for me to say since i've done about 3 playthroughs of ME and loved every moment of it. but i don't agree that it deserves a perfect or near perfect score when it has so many problems. look at it from a logical standpoint and not from a biased lovefest or hatefest stance. it has problems, more than most bigname games released lately. this stuff should've been cleaned out before release.

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#23 twags82
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Same can be said of many PC titles that get scored low because of technical flaws like The Witcher, Stalker........froidnite

YES! Thank you, I was just about to say that. The Witcher is an phenomenal game (loving it) and X3: Reunion is one of my fav games ever. The Witcher is fine now that it's patched (except for long save times and no option to turn off autosave) and X3 was unplayable when released...

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#24 Anti-Gamer
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Damn, people are still crying over gs review. If it makes u feel better, OXM gave it a 10/10.
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Not even close. stop trolling. the game deserves a high 8. It does almost everything extremely well for a futuristic RPG sans a few gameplay hiccups that are almost synonymous with the bioware brand of games. there are a few unpolished parts in ME, but a 7.0 game it does not make. it isn't a perfect game either, fixes need to be made in the combat spectrum for the sequel.
Kook18

On the edge review scale it does. It is a middling RPG (FAR from bioware at their best) with numerous technical problems, moronic AI, a completely F'ed up clas system and numerous other problems. Basically an ok RPG

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I think it didnt deserve an 8.5. The game is so good that you can look past its minor flaws and enjoy the game for what it is... a masterpiece. The game deserves at least a 9.5 but thats still doesnt do the game justise. Dont bash this game until youve played it. or else you have now idea of what your talking about.
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#27 twags82
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I think it didnt deserve an 8.5. The game is so good that you can look past its minor flaws and enjoy the game for what it is... a masterpiece. The game deserves at least a 9.5 but thats still doesnt do the game justise. Dont bash this game until youve played it. or else you have now idea of what your talking about.Cooldude224

I don't know about you, but I'd be pretty upset if a reviewer just looked past the technical flaws of a game (unless they were absolutely tiny) and didn't bring it into the score. I know that can be the make-or-break of a PC title of being AAA or not (aka The Witcher).

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#28 Cooldude224
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Tech flaws are what murdered Lair so be happy. caseypayne69

if reallycrappy controls are a "technical flaw"

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#29 Kook18
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Remember a time when 9.0+ reviews weren't handed out like candy? Now it seems everyone BAAWWWWS all over the floor whenever any above average game doesn't get 9-10. (not saying ME is just above average, but quite a few other game reviews i don't think deserve their score) :?
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[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]I think it didnt deserve an 8.5. The game is so good that you can look past its minor flaws and enjoy the game for what it is... a masterpiece. The game deserves at least a 9.5 but thats still doesnt do the game justise. Dont bash this game until youve played it. or else you have now idea of what your talking about.twags82

I don't know about you, but I'd be pretty upset if a reviewer just looked past the technical flaws of a game (unless they were absolutely tiny) and didn't bring it into the score. I know that can be the make-or-break of a PC title of being AAA or not (aka The Witcher).

Which they were. texture pop-in during diologue sceanes dont affect the game.

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Remember a time when 9.0+ reviews weren't handed out like candy? Now it seems everyone BAAWWWWS all over the floor whenever any above average game doesn't get 9-10. (not saying ME is just above average, but quite a few other game reviews i don't think deserve their score) :?Kook18
most of thosegames are deserving of those scores. but your right some dont.
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

wow, lemmings are going crazy over their glitchy failure

hell, EDGE gave it a 7 which is the score it really deserves

Fuzzy_Munch

A 7:roll: You are kidding right. Noone in there right mind can say this game is a 7. And ones that do are not in there right mind.

cashwh0re.com gave it a 7.5

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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

wow, lemmings are going crazy over their glitchy failure

hell, EDGE gave it a 7 which is the score it really deserves

Fuzzy_Munch

A 7:roll: You are kidding right. Noone in there right mind can say this game is a 7. And ones that do are not in there right mind.

Someone with an opinion can.:shock:
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not slight ALOT of technical flaws and you can beat that game in 10-15 hours and in about 20-25 with the side-quests that not acceptable for a RPG
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If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

Fuzzy_Munch

Yeah, Tell that to RATCHET AND CLANK Future, ZELDA:TP, METAL GEAR SOLID 3, and a host of other games that deserve better. Get in line.

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[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

Frostbite24

But the game does have some slight technical flaws...so it flops. I'm a lemming and I ****ing loving this game but I'm not a douche who's going to say it is not a flop.

Even at 8.5, I'll take that flop anyday. Heavenly Sword and Uncharted were both flops too, but I'm still going to get both of those games as well. These so called flops are going to give me hours and hours of enjoyment.

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#37 TREAL_Since
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Yup and the A.I. in general is not very good. Thank you so much MS for not allowing full utilization of the HDD :evil:! I almost always get taken out of the combat experience due to this crap.

It's still a great game, but a 10???

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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

XanderZane

But the game does have some slight technical flaws...so it flops. I'm a lemming and I ****ing loving this game but I'm not a douche who's going to say it is not a flop.

Even at 8.5, I'll take that flop anyday. Heavenly Sword and Uncharted were both flops too, but I'm still going to get both of those games as well. These so called flops are going to give me hours and hours of enjoyment.

Uncharted was hyped AA bud. Heavenly sword was a flop. Replace Uncharted with Lair which was a nasty flop.

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[QUOTE="twags82"]

[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]I think it didnt deserve an 8.5. The game is so good that you can look past its minor flaws and enjoy the game for what it is... a masterpiece. The game deserves at least a 9.5 but thats still doesnt do the game justise. Dont bash this game until youve played it. or else you have now idea of what your talking about.Cooldude224

I don't know about you, but I'd be pretty upset if a reviewer just looked past the technical flaws of a game (unless they were absolutely tiny) and didn't bring it into the score. I know that can be the make-or-break of a PC title of being AAA or not (aka The Witcher).

Which they were. texture pop-in during diologue sceanes dont affect the game.

obviously they wasn't. If every reviewer states that this game does have technical issues then it's big enough for most of the reviewers (if not all of them) to spot them. Now it might not be as big as some of us cows who haven't even played the game makes it out to be, but it's not as much of a small issue that you're making it out to be
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If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

Fuzzy_Munch

Your argument is exploration? Thats just bull. Every planet, except the 5 or 6 main story ones, are just flat open spaces (flat as in nothing but rocks). There are like 3 different strucktures on all those planets (mining collonies and 2 different reasearch facilities).

The only great thing about it is the story and the universe they created arround it. The technical flaws and mediocre combat do not allow this game AAA status. There's much room for improvement. i like it but it could have been so much better.

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#41 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="Kook18"]Not even close. stop trolling. the game deserves a high 8. It does almost everything extremely well for a futuristic RPG sans a few gameplay hiccups that are almost synonymous with the bioware brand of games. there are a few unpolished parts in ME, but a 7.0 game it does not make. it isn't a perfect game either, fixes need to be made in the combat spectrum for the sequel.
the_h_bomb

On the edge review scale it does. It is a middling RPG (FAR from bioware at their best) with numerous technical problems, moronic AI, a completely F'ed up clas system and numerous other problems. Basically an ok RPG

Interestingly enough, i dont think the EDGE review even mentions the tech problems at all. it's an awesomely written review too.

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#42 the_h_bomb
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Interestingly enough, i dont think the EDGE review even mentions the tech problems at all. it's an awesomely written review too.

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Edge's reviews are always well written.

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If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

Fuzzy_Munch

After 50+ hours on the game, i can confirm 1000% this is a 10/10 game, the frame rate drops are MINOR, and generally runs great, and has not one problem in battles too

The best game i have ever playd personally, and still play

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#44 cleotis_max
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See.. what you just made that is an opinion. Now with that said.. a review score is a reviewers _____. Fill in the blank.

Well incase you didn't get it the answer is Opinion, clever? I know. So what does it matter if it got a 8.5, 9.5 or 11.13 who cares? It's not up to anyones decision aside from your own, quit trying say "ME deserves a 9.5!".. Cos not everyone agrees to that and you know why? Because were entitled to our own OPINIONS.


Yay! O is the letter of the day.

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#45 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]

Interestingly enough, i dont think the EDGE review even mentions the tech problems at all. it's an awesomely written review too.

the_h_bomb

Edge's reviews are always well written.

they're always the best written.

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#46 ReverieDLM
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Mass Effect isn't a 9.5 game. Not even close. In fact, Mass Effect isn't an 8.5 game either. It's probably more like an 8. Great writing, great voice acting, good graphics. Now the bad... broken inventory system, extremely average combat system, fundamentally broken planet exploration (driving the Mako is absolute crap... it's nearly outclassed by Big Rigs), unstable framerate, serious graphical artifacting issues (improper shadows, texture pop-in, etc)... It's worth it to play this for the story. But pretty much all of the *gameplay* elements in Mass Effect are garbage. It's an utter failure as a *game*.
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The real reason GS gave it such a low score was because they were dissapointed that it was just another shooter with RPG elements and a conversation system. Its an amazing AAA game but it wasn't really an RPG at all.meetroid8

Wrong. Completely wrong. There is no way you could have played the game saying something like that.

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#48 Derek240
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The real reason GS gave it such a low score was because they were dissapointed that it was just another shooter with RPG elements and a conversation system. Its an amazing AAA game but it wasn't really an RPG at all.meetroid8

This man speaks the truth.

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#49 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]I think it didnt deserve an 8.5. The game is so good that you can look past its minor flaws and enjoy the game for what it is... a masterpiece. The game deserves at least a 9.5 but thats still doesnt do the game justise. Dont bash this game until youve played it. or else you have now idea of what your talking about.twags82

I don't know about you, but I'd be pretty upset if a reviewer just looked past the technical flaws of a game (unless they were absolutely tiny) and didn't bring it into the score. I know that can be the make-or-break of a PC title of being AAA or not (aka The Witcher).

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Mass Effect isn't a 9.5 game. Not even close. In fact, Mass Effect isn't an 8.5 game either. It's probably more like an 8. Great writing, great voice acting, good graphics. Now the bad... broken inventory system, extremely average combat system, fundamentally broken planet exploration (driving the Mako is absolute crap... it's nearly outclassed by Big Rigs), unstable framerate, serious graphical artifacting issues (improper shadows, texture pop-in, etc)... It's worth it to play this for the story. But pretty much all of the *gameplay* elements in Mass Effect are garbage. It's an utter failure as a *game*.ReverieDLM

I agree with that. I love the story, character models, and dialogue, but I've been trying to force myslef to like the combat and get used to the not so good A.I. It's kind of depressing. I had higher hopes for the gameplay.

I probably won't play through it twice and will try to do at least 90% of the sidequests my first time through.