I just got an Xbox One X, making me a manticore for the first time in almost a decade

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#1 Juub1990
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Honestly got it because I've had an urge to play Ninja Gaiden Black/II for months and the Master Collection is dogshit, especially on PC.

With that out of the way, what are some games you would recommend that I cannot find on PC?

So far I intend on getting:

Ninja Gaiden II

Ninja Gaiden Black

Halo 5

Conker's Live and Reloaded (think it's backwards compatible?)

Rare Replay

Gears of War 2-3

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#2 ZeroTheHero
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My condolences.

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#3 Pedro
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Is there a reason you didn't just get the Series S?

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Wish Conker had 16:4 support.

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#5 Juub1990
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@Pedro said:

Is there a reason you didn't just get the Series S?

Yeah. I got this one for $165 USD/$200 CAD. Series S are selling for twice the price here. Plus I might get a Series X much later.

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#6  Edited By sakaiXx
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@Pedro said:

Is there a reason you didn't just get the Series S?

Actually yeah, curious as to why not just go for last gen Series S.

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#8 deactivated-60cb3701bc83b
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I wouldn't say the Master Collection is dogshit, the games are still really good but they're just less good.

The Xbox One X is a great system and I hope you enjoy it. :)

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#9 sakaiXx
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@Juub1990: ah ok. That is quite cheap. Good value too since the console itself is pretty capable.

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@Juub1990: ah ok. That is quite cheap. Good value too since the console itself is pretty capable.

I swear, you seem like the chillest PS user on the forum. :P

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@Juub1990 said:

Honestly got it because I've had an urge to play Ninja Gaiden Black/II for months and the Master Collection is dogshit, especially on PC.

With that out of the way, what are some games you would recommend that I cannot find on PC?

So far I intend on getting:

Ninja Gaiden II

Ninja Gaiden Black

Halo 5

Conker's Live and Reloaded (think it's backwards compatible?)

Rare Replay

Gears of War 2-3

I can personally confirm that Conker: Live and Reloaded is fully backwards compatible. :)

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What a terrible purchase, OP. You should've bought at least a Series X or invested in an upgrade for a PC. Terrible, terrible purchase.

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#13 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy said:

@Pedro: Maybe wanted those BC enhancements that don't work on the Series S

Aren't those a few and far between?

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#14 NathanDrakeSwag
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An Xbox isn't required to be a manticore as it has no exclusives. All you need is a PC, PS5 and Switch.

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#15 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

An Xbox isn't required to be a manticore as it has no exclusives. All you need is a PC, PS5 and Switch.

I guess you are saying that because you aren't a manticore. 😂

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@Pedro said:
@girlusocrazy said:

@Pedro: Maybe wanted those BC enhancements that don't work on the Series S

Aren't those a few and far between?

Maybe he wanted to physically own the games, have more memory and actually get full 4K out of the games. :)

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When a PC gamer buys a Series X I always jump to the conclusion that they're having an existential crisis.

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#19 Archangel3371
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Nice and very good deal there. Some excellent games in that list too. Hope you enjoy. 👍

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@iamdavey said:
@sakaixx said:

@Juub1990: ah ok. That is quite cheap. Good value too since the console itself is pretty capable.

I swear, you seem like the chillest PS user on the forum. :P

For some unknown reason sheeps absolutely hates me 🙈🙉🙊

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#21 Chutebox
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Ya, I got a refurbished one while ago for the 4k player...that I literally have never used (screw 4k disc prices).

Got another three months of GP for a buck though. So there's that!

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#22 Pedro
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@iamdavey said:

Maybe he wanted to physically own the games, have more memory and actually get full 4K out of the games. :)

Physical games don't give you more hard drive space. People need to stop spreading this demonstrably false narrative.

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@Pedro said:
@iamdavey said:

Maybe he wanted to physically own the games, have more memory and actually get full 4K out of the games. :)

Physical games don't give you more hard drive space. People need to stop spreading this demonstrably false narrative.

Probably for those cheap old xbox and 360 physical games.

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@Pedro said:
@iamdavey said:

Maybe he wanted to physically own the games, have more memory and actually get full 4K out of the games. :)

Physical games don't give you more hard drive space. People need to stop spreading this demonstrably false narrative.

The 1X has twice the storage of the Series S.

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#25 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

The 1X has twice the storage of the Series S.

What does that got to do with my response?

@sakaixx said:

Probably for those cheap old xbox and 360 physical games.

They still need to be installed.

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#26 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Pedro said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

The 1X has twice the storage of the Series S.

What does that got to do with my response?

@sakaixx said:

Probably for those cheap old xbox and 360 physical games.

They still need to be installed.

You should re-read his post and you'll realize that you misread what he was saying. There's no need for you to get triggered over your own error lol.

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#27  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@iamdavey said:

I wouldn't say the Master Collection is dogshit, the games are still really good but they're just less good.

The Xbox One X is a great system and I hope you enjoy it. :)

It's pretty bad. I've been playing NGB and NG2 since release, got the Master collection the other day and it's astounding how much of a step back it is.

On the one hand, normal seems easier. On the otherhand, any difficulty I've faced is because the timing is off. It's not as balanced. It's like if SF3 Third Strike went back to the original SF3 state. Combat is somehow not as seemless against multiple enemies and they add stupid stuff, like those soldiers on motorcycles.

The ingame pause menu seems cluttered.

Graphically it's only a bit better than NGB running fully upscaled on the XSS.

To me this is more of a backward remake than a remaster.

I never felt like NGB was unfair, because it was so balanced it was about skill. In contrast because even the basic combat it in seems off, it's more of a problem for me. I don't know if it's frame issue. I'm not sure I like the back flip evasion, it slightly wastes time. In NGB, depending on your skill, you can use any weapon against any enemy. I don't feel like that's the case here.

So far I've found the twin swords over powered, you can become overwhelmed using the nunchuck and potency armlet against multiple enemies.

I like Rachels fighting style, she does look weird when running though, like a barbie doll hopping forwards.

I'd give NGB a 9/10. But honestly, I'd only give NGS a 6.5 or 7/10.

It just feels like the game is a badly edited mish mash of of parts instead of a seemless experience.

As for the Master Collection, it's just ports, it's over priced. No current gen enhancements on any level, even to the way loading might behave.

I'd highly recommend anyone with an Xbox, stick with NGB and NG2. Only get this if you're curious about the other version. Even then, don't get your hopes up.

Also noticed that it doesn't support quick resume. :-S

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#28 HalcyonScarlet
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

An Xbox isn't required to be a manticore as it has no exclusives. All you need is a PC, PS5 and Switch.

Except NGB, NG2, Conker and Rare replay, from that list alone.

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#29 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

You should re-read his post and you'll realize that you misread what he was saying. There's no need for you to get triggered over your own error lol.

It looks like you are the one that needs to re-read. 🤔

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@Juub1990 said:

Honestly got it because I've had an urge to play Ninja Gaiden Black/II for months and the Master Collection is dogshit, especially on PC.

With that out of the way, what are some games you would recommend that I cannot find on PC?

So far I intend on getting:

Ninja Gaiden II

Ninja Gaiden Black

Halo 5

Conker's Live and Reloaded (think it's backwards compatible?)

Rare Replay

Gears of War 2-3

I recommend signing up for Game Pass Ultimate if you haven't done so already. I believe Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden 2 are already on there as well as Rare Replay and all the Gears games. Halo 5 is there too. They were in the past, don't remember if they're still there. Conker I don't think is there but I do believe it is BC. In any event I highly recommend you sign up for GPU.

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@wandering_halls said:

When a PC gamer buys a Series X I always jump to the conclusion that they're having an existential crisis.

But you are a trolling fanboy with the IQ of fungus so you don't count.

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@iamdavey said:
@sakaixx said:

@Juub1990: ah ok. That is quite cheap. Good value too since the console itself is pretty capable.

I swear, you seem like the chillest PS user on the forum. :P

Give us a little credit, we're not all obnoxious asshats. There's two or three of them that are giving the rest of us a bad look.

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#33  Edited By deactivated-62852ef1135c6
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@Xplode_games said:
@wandering_halls said:

When a PC gamer buys a Series X I always jump to the conclusion that they're having an existential crisis.

But you are a trolling fanboy with the IQ of fungus so you don't count.

....do I know you?

And: I'm not sure fungus knows what an existential crisis is. Could be wrong.

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#34 freedomfreak
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The 4K enhancements are good shit. It's my overpriced, fully functional Xbox emulation machine. I just wish Microsoft would put their foot down as far as support goes.

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Being a manticore just means you are biting off more than you can chew. You'd have to quit life to enjoy half of what's available.

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#36 Juub1990
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@Xplode_games: I do have Game Pass Ultimate. Ninja Gaiden games aren’t there but Halo 5 is. Just downloaded. I already owned Ninja Gaiden black so that’s taken care of. Ninja Gaiden II though is $20.

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#37  Edited By WitIsWisdom  Online
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Awesome man. I've been looking for a Series X since it was announced and still can't find one. I really like the One X and people often understate it's performance. It's nice not getting hung up in menus and needing to wait 20-30 seconds to navigate. The PS5 has fixed those problems but I will always remember thinking that the One X blew SONY away in reaction times and smoothness last gen and especially closer to the end of the gen.

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#38  Edited By deactivated-60cb3701bc83b
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@Pedro said:
@iamdavey said:

Maybe he wanted to physically own the games, have more memory and actually get full 4K out of the games. :)

Physical games don't give you more hard drive space. People need to stop spreading this demonstrably false narrative.

Think you've misunderstood me, the Series S only has 512GB whereas the Xbox One X has 1TB worth of memory. I'm sorry that I didn't make that clear. :(

The Series S also doesn't have a disc drive so it makes getting physical games pointless.

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#39  Edited By WitIsWisdom  Online
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@shadyacshuns said:

Being a manticore just means you are biting off more than you can chew. You'd have to quit life to enjoy half of what's available.

Or be retired, or work from home, or have a job that is seasonal, or work longer hours 4 days and have 3 off, or spend family time playing games, or not dedicating all your time to one game, or not watching much tv.

A lot of these things my own family checks off and there are many more I could list. Not everyone has a similar schedule. We still have time to follow several hobbies, sports, attend craft fairs, six flags, water parks, roller skating, fishing, festivals, walk trails, go to farms, zoo's, museums, hotel stays, etc. Our newest thing is mining geodes which can be tough work but equally rewarding. The thing that sucks though is that as I get older sleep seems to be a necessity I can't keep putting off.. lol.

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@Juub1990 said:

@Xplode_games: I do have Game Pass Ultimate. Ninja Gaiden games aren’t there but Halo 5 is. Just downloaded. I already owned Ninja Gaiden black so that’s taken care of. Ninja Gaiden II though is $20.

I just checked and you're right, the Ninja Gaiden games are no longer there. However, Rare Replay is there. All the games are separated though. You will find the Banjo games and the Perfect Dark games all included. All the Gears Games are there as well. As you mentioned Halo 5 is there. Congratulations on your purchase, that was a great buy!

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#41  Edited By Xplode_games
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@wandering_halls said:
@Xplode_games said:
@wandering_halls said:

When a PC gamer buys a Series X I always jump to the conclusion that they're having an existential crisis.

But you are a trolling fanboy with the IQ of fungus so you don't count.

....do I know you?

And: I'm not sure fungus knows what an existential crisis is. Could be wrong.

Look, you have to be trolling and I guess I'm reacting to that. Why so much loyalty to a company that's acting against the consumer? I take the side of the consumer against any company and right now Xbox is leagues ahead of Sony and Nintendo.

It's true that I give Nintendo a pass because although they are worse than Sony in a lot of ways, they have a lot better first party and their hardware is the most reliable out of anything else. I call them the Apple of gaming. Minus the performance and yes Apple is anti consumer as well with a lot of their policies.

If you doubt that Nintendo's first party blows Sony's doors off then look at how old first party Nintendo games hold their value. Compare that to Sony first party games.

Anyway, stop trolling please.

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#42  Edited By deactivated-62852ef1135c6
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@Xplode_games said:
@wandering_halls said:
@Xplode_games said:
@wandering_halls said:

When a PC gamer buys a Series X I always jump to the conclusion that they're having an existential crisis.

But you are a trolling fanboy with the IQ of fungus so you don't count.

....do I know you?

And: I'm not sure fungus knows what an existential crisis is. Could be wrong.

Look, you have to be trolling and I guess I'm reacting to that.

Lol, do ya think? And, no, I'm not trolling.

Dude, I'm a PC gamer. I think it's pointless to get a Series X if you have a PC, as everything is on PC. I think the Series X is a great console in and of itself, and well worth the investment if you don't like gaming on a PC. As for PS5, incidentally, I find it personally pointless, too, at least until some exclusives other than Demon's show up that I actually want, which remains to be seen.

Stop prejudging me.

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#43 Juub1990
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@Xplode_games said:

I just checked and you're right, the Ninja Gaiden games are no longer there. However, Rare Replay is there. All the games are separated though. You will find the Banjo games and the Perfect Dark games all included. All the Gears Games are there as well. As you mentioned Halo 5 is there. Congratulations on your purchase, that was a great buy!

Got that one too, and thanks. I like it a lot so far.

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@Juub1990 said:
@Xplode_games said:

I just checked and you're right, the Ninja Gaiden games are no longer there. However, Rare Replay is there. All the games are separated though. You will find the Banjo games and the Perfect Dark games all included. All the Gears Games are there as well. As you mentioned Halo 5 is there. Congratulations on your purchase, that was a great buy!

Got that one too, and thanks. I like it a lot so far.

No problem, I'm glad you're enjoying it. I have the XSX but I still love my X1X. What a beast it was for it's time.

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#45 Pedro
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Think you've misunderstood me, the Series S only has 512GB whereas the Xbox One X has 1TB worth of memory. I'm sorry that I didn't make that clear. :(

The Series S also doesn't have a disc drive so it makes getting physical games pointless.

My error then. The Series S is more available. Series X is a bit more difficult acquire and the S is within price range of the One X.

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@wandering_halls said:
@Xplode_games said:
@wandering_halls said:
@Xplode_games said:
@wandering_halls said:

When a PC gamer buys a Series X I always jump to the conclusion that they're having an existential crisis.

But you are a trolling fanboy with the IQ of fungus so you don't count.

....do I know you?

And: I'm not sure fungus knows what an existential crisis is. Could be wrong.

Look, you have to be trolling and I guess I'm reacting to that.

Lol, do ya think? And, no, I'm not trolling.

Dude, I'm a PC gamer. I think it's pointless to get a Series X if you have a PC, as everything is on PC. I think the Series X is a great console in and of itself, and well worth the investment if you don't like gaming on a PC. As for PS5, incidentally, I find it personally pointless, too, at least until some exclusives other than Demon's show up that I actually want, which remains to be seen.

Stop prejudging me.

If you don't see a point in a Series X it's probably because you have a powerful PC. What about PC gamers who don't have a powerful PC? You know the vast majority of PC gamers play on a 1060 or even a 580.

If someone has a decent PC they can easy benefit from the XSX. I'm not saying they should trash their PC and go for the XSX but they compliment each other. Have you ever tried play anywhere games? You can play on the Xbox and then turn the console off and continue your same save on the PC. It's freaking crazy. All games should be that way. Maybe in the future.

I don't understand how people think it's so great to buy a Playstation and PC when Sony treats PC gamers like crap. They lock their games and with the backlog I have plus Game Pass I am ok with missing their short story driven first party trash that ends up for $20 in a year anyway.

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@Xplode_games said:
@wandering_halls said:
@Xplode_games said:
@wandering_halls said:
@Xplode_games said:

But you are a trolling fanboy with the IQ of fungus so you don't count.

....do I know you?

And: I'm not sure fungus knows what an existential crisis is. Could be wrong.

Look, you have to be trolling and I guess I'm reacting to that.

Lol, do ya think? And, no, I'm not trolling.

Dude, I'm a PC gamer. I think it's pointless to get a Series X if you have a PC, as everything is on PC. I think the Series X is a great console in and of itself, and well worth the investment if you don't like gaming on a PC. As for PS5, incidentally, I find it personally pointless, too, at least until some exclusives other than Demon's show up that I actually want, which remains to be seen.

Stop prejudging me.

If you don't see a point in a Series X it's probably because you have a powerful PC. What about PC gamers who don't have a powerful PC? You know the vast majority of PC gamers play on a 1060 or even a 580.

If someone has a decent PC they can easy benefit from the XSX. I'm not saying they should trash their PC and go for the XSX but they compliment each other. Have you ever tried play anywhere games? You can play on the Xbox and then turn the console off and continue your same save on the PC. It's freaking crazy. All games should be that way. Maybe in the future.

I don't understand how people think it's so great to buy a Playstation and PC when Sony treats PC gamers like crap. They lock their games and with the backlog I have plus Game Pass I am ok with missing their short story driven first party trash that ends up for $20 in a year anyway.

Yeah, dude, I have a powerful PC. I personally find the Series X pointless for me because of this. I can't speak for other people. I wouldn't even try.

As for PS5 I straight up said I don't want one, at least not until some banger exclusives show up...and even then I might just wait until they eventually come to PC (unless it's Silent Hill).

Beyond that, I'm not even sure why Sony came up in the first place.

Beyond that, lay off the reverse quaaludes, my dude.

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#48 sealionact
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@NathanDrakeSwag: “ An Xbox isn't required to be a manticore as it has no exclusives. All you need is a PC, PS5 and Switch.”

You need three systems to replace an X1X?

You heard it here first folks.

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#49 onesiphorus
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Are there any consenus of what a manticore is in System Wars?

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#50 Macutchi
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seeing as though youre picking up older games if you haven't played og xbox splinter cell double agent grab that. disc version is bc on my xbox one so should be for the one x