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#1 -Sir-Poof-
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http://vgcharts.org/

360 lead is almost down to only 3 million. How in the world did the 360 lose its 1 year lead?

Is the Wii selling that good or did the 360 sell that bad?

Lets see what happens to Wii60 when Wii takes the lead.

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#2 the-very-best
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10 mil in a year isn't bad, but I know both Sony and Nintendo will do better than that.

I personally expect the Wii to overtake the 360 this year. I think PS3 will overtake 360 by mid next year and overtake the Wii by late 2008 - mid 2009. 

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didnt 360 sell a crap load from 0ct 06- jan 07? and before that it wasnt anything special? the wii is selling way better then i ever thought and it has no games to play just like the ps3 funny stuff
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#4 WatsonC
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http://vgcharts.org/

360 lead is almost down to only 3 million. How in the world did the 360 lose its 1 year lead?

Is the Wii selling that good or did the 360 sell that bad?

Lets see what happens to Wii60 when Wii takes the lead.

-Sir-Poof-
its dead 9 million of 360 owner world wide got milked hard .. liek being squeez nipple hardly
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#5 pundog
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So far I don't see the 360 losing its lead (permanently anyway) to the Wii until the Wii can pump out some better games. I'd bet most of the remaining potential 360 buyers are waiting for a price drop, which should come within the year. I'd expect 360's to start selling well again this summer when games like Mass Effect and Forza 2 come out as well as when Halo 3 comes out. Especially if MS drops the 360's price by $100, then you'd have a Core that costs less than a Wii, a $299 Premium and a Elite (which may not recieve the same price drop) at around $400.
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#6 -Sir-Poof-
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10 mil in a year isn't bad, but I know both Sony and Nintendo will do better than that.

I personally expect the Wii to overtake the 360 this year. I think PS3 will overtake 360 by mid next year and overtake the Wii by late 2008 - mid 2009. 

the-very-best

10 Mill isnt bad at all but man Wii going against 2 other companies and selling as well as it is im just amazed.

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#7 the-very-best
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

10 mil in a year isn't bad, but I know both Sony and Nintendo will do better than that.

I personally expect the Wii to overtake the 360 this year. I think PS3 will overtake 360 by mid next year and overtake the Wii by late 2008 - mid 2009.

-Sir-Poof-

10 Mill isnt bad at all but man Wii going against 2 other companies and selling as well as it is im just amazed.

Great appeal to non gamers is the main reason. I'm glad it's selling well because I like Nintendo's innovative attitude to the market but I'm not happy with the current/upcoming games for the console so I hope Nintendo gets their act together. 

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#8 Puckhog04
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It's still in the lead. I'll wait for NPD numbers, neither of those 3 sites are credible IMO. The Wii is selling very well though at this time (in the future is unknown). PS3, heh, not so much. Who knows though.
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#9 Kill-U
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Could the answer be that the wii is halfed the price of the 360 and people could just buy it right off the bat

 

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#10 -Sir-Poof-
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It's still in the lead. I'll wait for NPD numbers, neither of those 3 sites are credible IMO. The Wii is selling very well though at this time (in the future is unknown). PS3, heh, not so much. Who knows though. Puckhog04

Yea its in the lead but IMO its looking really bleek for the 360 to actually win this gen.

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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]It's still in the lead. I'll wait for NPD numbers, neither of those 3 sites are credible IMO. The Wii is selling very well though at this time (in the future is unknown). PS3, heh, not so much. Who knows though. -Sir-Poof-

Yea its in the lead but IMO its looking really bleek for the 360 to actually win this gen.

It's already successful. As for winning? Heh, anything can happen. I don't presume to know the future.

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#12 -Sir-Poof-
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Could the answer be that the wii is halfed the price of the 360 and people could just buy it right off the bat

 

Kill-U

But the 360 has a system thats only 50 bucks more.

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It's still in the lead. I'll wait for NPD numbers, neither of those 3 sites are credible IMO. The Wii is selling very well though at this time (in the future is unknown). PS3, heh, not so much. Who knows though. Puckhog04

Yea but for long and what happen to the 360's lead of 9 mill in the first year is what the TC is trying to say and Iam also surprised at the wii's numbers but they are accurate.

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#15 pundog
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Once the hype of the Wii dies down its sales are going to slow too. Lets face it, there are millions of owners of the original Xbox that are probably waiting for either Mass Effect, Halo 3, a price drop or a combination of the three. It is looking more likely that the Wii will finish first but I think the 360 will be able to compete with it.
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]It's still in the lead. I'll wait for NPD numbers, neither of those 3 sites are credible IMO. The Wii is selling very well though at this time (in the future is unknown). PS3, heh, not so much. Who knows though. GoldenEye005

Yea but for long and what happen to the 360's lead of 9 mill in the first year is what the TC is trying to say and Iam also surprised at the wii's numbers but they are accurate.

Again, i don't presume that any of those 3 sites are accurate since all have difference information claiming the same exact thing, "ours is accurate". When NPD announces the numbers then i'll comment. Only thing that i know for sure is the 360 is in the lead. Does it matter? No, not at all. Is the Wii selling well? Sure, atm it is. Are the 360 and PS3 selling well? Yep, the 360 has been selling steadily well everywhere except Japan since launch and the PS3 is picking up sales as well. That's about all that matters IMO.

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#17 Nike_Air
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Don't worry , Microsoft's plan is to get half of the current userbase to buy the elite this year. the sad part is that they probably will.

 

 

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wth?!?!? Microsoft announced 10 million on CES, 2 months later they should have produced at least 1 more million......those sites are bs, check the NDP numbers
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wth?!?!? Microsoft announced 10 million on CES, 2 months later they should have produced at least 1 more million......those sites are bs, check the NDP numberstacubano
Microsoft announced 10.4 million SHIPPED to retailers. VGCharts attempts to estimate the number sold based on past sales data and a formula based off of that sales data.

Could the answer be that the wii is halfed the price of the 360 and people could just buy it right off the bat

 

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Price definately matters, but it's not an impulse buy. When you have to wake up early on a Sunday morning and wait in line to get one, it's not impulse. So these are people that want a Wii to the point where they'll wait in line for it, for hours even.
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#20 tovarischs
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Japanese support certainly helps, almost 2 million difference there.

 

Otherwise, a lot of it is wider market appeal. 

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#21 afdevil24
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http://vgcharts.org/

360 lead is almost down to only 3 million. How in the world did the 360 lose its 1 year lead?

Is the Wii selling that good or did the 360 sell that bad?

Lets see what happens to Wii60 when Wii takes the lead.

-Sir-Poof-
those charts are far off. wii is at 5 mil and 360 is at 10.8mil
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#22 STABW0UND
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its japan everywhere else 360 is completely dominating the wii
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#23 -Reggaeton-
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http://vgcharts.org/

360 lead is almost down to only 3 million. How in the world did the 360 lose its 1 year lead?

Is the Wii selling that good or did the 360 sell that bad?

Lets see what happens to Wii60 when Wii takes the lead.

-Sir-Poof-

And the 360 numbers are shipped MS counts units that leaves the factory as sold.

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#24 STABW0UND
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heres the current correct one....

Xbox 360 10,855,281

Wii 5,243,470

PS3 2,291,570

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#25 Doomlike_Mitc
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You seem to forget the system just had to comepete with in total of 2 mill. new consoles, it has no killer IP's launched yet, and there is no price drop yet. Oh and Japan just not liking the 360.

When the price drops it will get better, have alot of commercials running for big games like halo or Mass Effect, and it should get better soon for MS.

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#26 -Reggaeton-
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heres the current correct one....

Xbox 360 10,855,281

Wii 5,243,470

PS3 2,291,570

STABW0UND

Your such an ignorant fanboy:? 

Honestly those numbers of the 360 are/is shipped units. Get real? 

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#27 kingsy_the_one
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its japan everywhere else 360 is completely dominating the wiiSTABW0UND
The Wii beats the 360 every month in NA..
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#28 l1mIt
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:lol: the xflop hasnt even sold 10mill yet, and its been 1year and 5 months :lol:
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#29 OhhSnap50893
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Surprised? I'm not. The Wii is selling out faster than anyone ever imagined. Hold on to you seatbelts because soon the WIi is going to take an enormous lead, once which the 'Zephyr' will be able to do nothing about.
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#30 jfkunrendered
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This chart is very inaccurate. And besides, I have a Wii60 so I win no matter what. And the Wii sales will slow down, its only a matter of time before people realize that all your gonna get is Mario Mario and more Mario.
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#31 blacktorn
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Halo 3 will help keep the 360's lead in this year 2007,however i expect the wii and maybe the ps3 to overtake (considering the Successful European launch).

However even if the 360 does end up 3rd it's still good for Microsoft,when considering the last gen where Microsoft lost $3 billion.

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#32 STABW0UND
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[QUOTE="STABW0UND"]

heres the current correct one....

Xbox 360 10,855,281

Wii 5,243,470

PS3 2,291,570

-Reggaeton-

Your such an ignorant fanboy:?

Honestly those numbers of the 360 are/is shipped units. Get real?

fanboy? i own all 3 LMAO! i got the numbers from http://nexgenwars.com
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#33 jfkunrendered
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Oh, and the 360 broke 10 million last year...this chart is wwwaaaaayyyyyyy off. Go to nextgen wars.com its more accurate than this one.
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#34 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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http://vgcharts.org/

360 lead is almost down to only 3 million. How in the world did the 360 lose its 1 year lead?

Is the Wii selling that good or did the 360 sell that bad?

-Sir-Poof-
probably a combination of the two
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#35 conceru3
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wth?!?!? Microsoft announced 10 million on CES, 2 months later they should have produced at least 1 more million......those sites are bs, check the NDP numberstacubano

Link ? I have been reading about those 10 million 360 sold for 4 months now, i suspect they will at least have sold some units in 4 months time

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The Wii is selling really well. Nintendo really knew what they were doing when they designed the console. The 360 still has a very healthy lead on the PS3 and that's important for development support as we have seen with VF5, DMC 4 and Ace Combat 6 now coming to 360. The Wii and 360 have some overlap in their markets but not as much as the PS3 and 360. So it's the one MS really needs to stay ahead of to continue to get the type of developer support they have been getting. Games sales are important too and the 360 performs well there.
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#37 skingus
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The 360 is a great system and I love it, but as an owner of the Wii as well I could easily see it beating the 360 in sales this gen. It is a great system for all users, me, mom, dad, and girlfriend. That is something you simply can't ignore. The controller adds alot to the experience( only blind fanboys will disagree), and it only costs $250 dollars. That is a recipe for a selling machine. Their is no denying it.
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#38 taker42
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This chart is very inaccurate. And besides, I have a Wii60 so I win no matter what. And the Wii sales will slow down, its only a matter of time before people realize that all your gonna get is Mario Mario and more Mario.jfkunrendered
Hardly. Worst case is it follows the path of GC and GC certainly wasn't just "Mario Mario and more Mario".
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The Wii is selling really well. Nintendo really knew what they were doing when they designed the console. The 360 still has a very healthy lead on the PS3 and that's important for development support as we have seen with VF5, DMC 4 and Ace Combat 6 now coming to 360. The Wii and 360 have some overlap in their markets but not as much as the PS3 and 360. So it's the one MS really needs to stay ahead of to continue to get the type of developer support they have been getting. Games sales are important too and the 360 performs well there.Paktahn

The only thing I disagree with is: As long as Microsoft wins over the PS3, they will have enough staying power and enough fanbase for developers to see their value in the gaming market. Both Ps3 and 360 offer a great product. The problem is that their product is to similar and someone has to come out on top.

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#40 deactivated-57d773aa56272
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Xbox 360 will lead in console sales in NA.
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#41 Mister_Bate
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The Japanese love the Xbox 360!!!
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#42 joeychew
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wii is catching up fast!!!
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#43 deactivated-57d773aa56272
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The Japanese love the Xbox 360!!!Mister_Bate

I wonder if you can download the Blue Dragon anime off of the 360.

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#44 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"][QUOTE="STABW0UND"]

heres the current correct one....

Xbox 360 10,855,281

Wii 5,243,470

PS3 2,291,570

STABW0UND

Your such an ignorant fanboy:?

Honestly those numbers of the 360 are/is shipped units. Get real?

fanboy? i own all 3 LMAO! i got the numbers from http://nexgenwars.com

nextgenwars sucks. they uped the 360 sales by 1 (to like 10 million) the day MS anounced 10.4 million. Do you think every one of those 10.4 had been sold when some of them probably werent in the actually stores yet (company warehouses and the like)
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#45 Big_T-Mac
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its ok, its only the wii thats coming close. thats a different market, according to both sides.
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One thing is for sure nintendo looks like they did the right thing going for $250 going by sales. What's scary is the wii imo has crappy games so what will happen when it gets good games. Ms is in a tight spot with the wii on one side and the ps3 selling almost 2 to 1 in the same time frame as the 360.

This holiday season could be critical for the 360's success at this rate. 

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One thing is for sure nintendo looks like they did the right thing going for $250 going by sales. What's scary is the wii imo has crappy games so what will happen when it gets good games. Ms is in a tight spot with the wii on one side and the ps3 selling almost 2 to 1 in the same time frame as the 360.

This holiday season could be critical for the 360's success at this rate.

ChiChiMonKilla

 

I see it looking bad for PS3...the 360 sold...4 million by march? and the PS3 just hit 2.5 thanks to the UK launch. Halo 3 should boost sales along with all the other AAA`s coming out on 360 this year and the next. 

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insted of adding high definition or up grading anything they made a new controller witch is cheap as hell to manufacture wii manufactures for about $100 - $120 and they sell it for $250 they make a ton and get the most sales because people see it as the cheapest nex gen console but its not really next gen... its a gamecube with flashing lites and a new controller.
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#49 jdknight21
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So we can't compare graphics, can't call it next gen (new gen), but can compare sales?
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[QUOTE="Paktahn"]The Wii is selling really well. Nintendo really knew what they were doing when they designed the console. The 360 still has a very healthy lead on the PS3 and that's important for development support as we have seen with VF5, DMC 4 and Ace Combat 6 now coming to 360. The Wii and 360 have some overlap in their markets but not as much as the PS3 and 360. So it's the one MS really needs to stay ahead of to continue to get the type of developer support they have been getting. Games sales are important too and the 360 performs well there.skingus

The only thing I disagree with is: As long as Microsoft wins over the PS3, they will have enough staying power and enough fanbase for developers to see their value in the gaming market. Both Ps3 and 360 offer a great product. The problem is that their product is to similar and someone has to come out on top.

Even if it only get the games that have been announced so far on the system it's going to be a great console in my books. I do think it has a real chance against the PS3 but even if it doesn't it's still going to have a very nice games library. At this point the PS3 is lagging behind in sales by a large number and at $600 it won't be easy for it to catch up. With sales going the way they are right now the 360 has actually been increasing it's lead on the PS3 every month since it launch.