GTA 4 caused mass dissapointment apparently...

I think most people would agree it deserves the title of 'Worst Good Game Ever'ONLYDOD

Nope. That belongs to every GRAW and Rainbow Six game.

hat do you guys think? I went down to sell GTA to put towards MGS in Gamestation and the guy said a lot of people had done this and told him it was a major dissapointment. I found GTA to be a bit soulless even on xbox live. Metal Gear is one of the best games ever IMO if your wondering. What are your opinions?bellsmye1

Nobody would be complaining about GTA IV (or at least a lot less people would be) if it weren't for review scores in general. Since the game got 10's across the board, people now think the game is overrated and not worth $60. If the game got 7's and 8's, people would think it's underrated and fully worth the $60 as well.

Fact of the matter is, it's the exact same game by the end of the day and it's through the corruption of review scores on people's minds that make the decision for them if it's a good game or not.

people are becoming incredibly hard to please, wait a month or two and see hoe mgs4 turns from awsome to overrated crap.

people can think for a sec and realize that time doesnt changes the fact that an awsome game = awsome game

Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way. If someone doesn't like it, it's not the games fault. Peoples tastes change over time...BioShockOwnz

yes! it's driving me insane how people can have such high expectations

Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way.BioShockOwnz

Yes. But at the same time, it was also a major step backwards in how it left behind a great deal of the sandbox elements SA had.

And the story ended on a low note as well.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way. If someone doesn't like it, it's not the games fault. Peoples tastes change over time...lawlessx

yes! it's driving me insane how people can have such high expectations

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way. If someone doesn't like it, it's not the games fault. Peoples tastes change over time...lawlessx

yes! it's driving me insane how people can have such high expectations

Yup, my expectations were met and even exceeded in some areas. Then again, I research what I buy. I knew what I was buying into.

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]I think most people would agree it deserves the title of 'Worst Good Game Ever'BioShockOwnz

Nope. That belongs to every GRAW and Rainbow Six game.

Hmm, I stand corrected.

Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way. If someone doesn't like it, it's not the games fault. Peoples tastes change over time...BioShockOwnz

I disagree, the wii is selling like hotcakes to casuals and gamers alike. God knows why, it's a gamecube with motion sensitivity for about $200 more. If anything, gamers are getting lenient, buying **** games like Lost Odyssey and all the endless mini-game collections.

I think it's just because it's being compared to past GTA games like San Andreas. If GTA IV came out by itself, as the first GTA game, people wouldn't have been disappointed. It doesn't improve on the franchise as much as people had hoped.JAB991

GTA IV was my first GTA game and after playing it I will never play another. I didn't like the game at all.

[QUOTE="JAB991"]I think it's just because it's being compared to past GTA games like San Andreas. If GTA IV came out by itself, as the first GTA game, people wouldn't have been disappointed. It doesn't improve on the franchise as much as people had hoped.-Renegade

GTA IV was my first GTA game and after playing it I will never play another. I didn't like the game at all.

You also didn't like Half-Life, yet you liked HAZE, right?

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]I think most people would agree it deserves the title of 'Worst Good Game Ever'BioShockOwnz

Nope. That belongs to every GRAW and Rainbow Six game.

Totally agreed.

RSV (although I enjoyed/tolerated it's half-azz quality) and RSV2 (worst game I ever played, worst story, and crap maps and multiplayer) are definitely some of the biggest let downs of this gen for me.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JAB991"]I think it's just because it's being compared to past GTA games like San Andreas. If GTA IV came out by itself, as the first GTA game, people wouldn't have been disappointed. It doesn't improve on the franchise as much as people had hoped.BioShockOwnz

GTA IV was my first GTA game and after playing it I will never play another. I didn't like the game at all.

You also didn't like Half-Life, yet you liked HAZE, right?

That would be true about Half Life but I didn't buy Haze. I thought the demo was ok though.

Nah. It's just the internet full of wannabe hardcore gamers.

Look towards your "cool" friends who would also own a copy of Halo 3 and CoD 4. They're saying it's one of the best games ever.

In the game I'm doing missions for that old mobster guy(pegorino I think?)n Alderney and I think I might sell this game

-story missions are repititive and consist of

A)shoot-out

B)chase

C)both above mixed

-crappy customization, yea I know people are gonna come up with the "OMG,how stupid would it be to give Niko a blonde afro".And I know its quite stupid but hey,if its stupid DONT ******* USE IT AND IGNORE IT

-pretty much sucked out the fun of GTA games, what happend to base jumping off a building,ejecting a parachute then landing on the ground to kill people with a Mini-gun,flame thrower,chainsaw etc.(and whats with the RPG's?each rocket costs a few thousand dollars and you can only hold 8,unless you get 100% which can screw off for all I care)

-extremely long exposition

-boring side missions

I did enjoy the great attention to detail and multi-player though.

people are becoming incredibly hard to please, wait a month or two and see hoe mgs4 turns from awsome to overrated crap.

people can think for a sec and realize that time doesnt changes the fact that an awsome game = awsome game

Kirlok

Thats not true, alot of people got tired of gta4 way before they even beat it. People are at least playing mgs4 all the way tru. Gta4=boring for me

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JAB991"]I think it's just because it's being compared to past GTA games like San Andreas. If GTA IV came out by itself, as the first GTA game, people wouldn't have been disappointed. It doesn't improve on the franchise as much as people had hoped.BioShockOwnz

GTA IV was my first GTA game and after playing it I will never play another. I didn't like the game at all.

You also didn't like Half-Life, yet you liked HAZE, right?

Not like you have very good taste in games either.....Dark sector

In the game I'm doing missions for that old mobster guy(pegorino I think?)n Alderney and I think I might sell this game

-story missions are repititive and consist of

A)shoot-out

B)chase

C)both above mixed

-crappy customization, yea I know people are gonna come up with the "OMG,how stupid would it be to give Niko a blonde afro".And I know its quite stupid but hey,if its stupid DONT ******* USE IT AND IGNORE IT

-pretty much sucked out the fun of GTA games, what happend to base jumping off a building,ejecting a parachute then landing on the ground to kill people with a Mini-gun,flame thrower,chainsaw etc.(and whats with the RPG's?each rocket costs a few thousand dollars and you can only hold 8,unless you get 100% which can screw off for all I care)

-extremely long exposition

-boring side missions

I did enjoy the great attention to detail and multi-player though.

dominer

This post completely summarizes why GTA 4 was a disappointment and NO ONE can deny it. Although GTA 4 was an amazing game, it took many steps back. For example, many sandbox elements were removed. Car controls were made more realistic. Cop chases because more predictable and not as fun.

Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way. If someone doesn't like it, it's not the games fault. Peoples tastes change over time...BioShockOwnz

Any game that gets a 10 is going to cause a lot of people to say it didnt deserve it and a lot of people to jump on that bandwagon to be cool.

I personally didnt think it deserved a 10, but I never really found anything special in the series anyways

This post completely summarizes why GTA 4 was a disappointment and NO ONE can deny it. Although GTA 4 was an amazing game, it took many steps back. For example, many sandbox elements were removed. Car controls were made more realistic. Cop chases because more predictable and not as fun.

LagSwitch

Not back, if anything, it took a step sideways.

Maybe, if you want to think in mature terms, it took a step fowards. It does not rely on gaming gratification by making people's heads explode. It does not indulge in its chainsaw massacre re-enactments. Rather, it indulges in its much more mature satire and mimickery of the postmodern world.

Which is why I always say:

You can enjoy throwing fecal matter into the crowds in Saint's Row 2, and get your chainsaw-freak on in its multiplayer. I'll be sitting back enjoying some Weazel TV and America's Next Top Hooker.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JAB991"]I think it's just because it's being compared to past GTA games like San Andreas. If GTA IV came out by itself, as the first GTA game, people wouldn't have been disappointed. It doesn't improve on the franchise as much as people had hoped.lolkie_81

GTA IV was my first GTA game and after playing it I will never play another. I didn't like the game at all.

You also didn't like Half-Life, yet you liked HAZE, right?

Not like you have very good taste in games either.....Dark sector

First, Dark Sector was rated higher, and it's listed as a "good" game.

Second, I don't diss great games in favor of poor games. I enjoy them.

Third, I'm guessing that's the only comeback you ever have for me...*rolls eyes*

Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way. If someone doesn't like it, it's not the games fault. Peoples tastes change over time...BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="LagSwitch"]

This post completely summarizes why GTA 4 was a disappointment and NO ONE can deny it. Although GTA 4 was an amazing game, it took many steps back. For example, many sandbox elements were removed. Car controls were made more realistic. Cop chases because more predictable and not as fun.

FrozenLiquid

Not back, if anything, it took a step sideways.

Maybe, if you want to think in mature terms, it took a step fowards. It does not rely on gaming gratification by making people's heads explode. It does not indulge in its chainsaw massacre re-enactments. Rather, it indulges in its much more mature satire and mimickery of the postmodern world.

Which is why I always say:

You can enjoy throwing fecal matter into the crowds in Saint's Row 2, and get your chainsaw-freak on in its multiplayer. I'll be sitting back enjoying some Weazel TV and America's Next Top Hooker.

yea GTA was funny,but jokes get old quick,then what are ya gonna do?Plus,I still think R* could've made the game fun even though they suffered from "it must be teh realisicz" syndrome.

yea GTA was funny,but jokes get old quick,then what are ya gonna do?Plus,I still think R* could've made the game fun even though they suffered from "it must be teh realisicz" syndrome.

dominer

The jokes will never get old as long as Rupert Murdoch owns News Corp.

Saying "huh?" yet?

Now you know why GTA IV is an adult-oriented game.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way. If someone doesn't like it, it's not the games fault. Peoples tastes change over time...Shafftehr

GTA IV is no more a sandbox game as it is an action/TPS with sandbox elements. That's the path R* took, and will probably continue with. There's Saint's Row 2 for all those teenagers that got left behind with GTA IV's turn to maturity.

Instead of base jumping and flying commercial jets with some random ignorant black youngster (it may be fun to fly airliners, but totally unrealistic unless your character is 40 years old and has spent his life flying), they decided all the small details will contribute to a more lively world you can believe as you play through their narrative.

Perhaps they didn't care for the end-game. Maybe they decided to actually make it interesting to walk the streets of Liberty City and see things you'd expect to see. I know I'm enjoying it.

Not really. Everything gets traded in, that means nothing. There were 3 used copies of MGS4 at Gamestop where I'm at already. GTA IV is at damn near 9 million in less than 2 months. Just because there are used copies on the shelf, and a few haters on the internet, that hardly qualifies as a MASS DISAPPOINTMENT. GTA IV is a 10, get over it. :| DisPimpin

Ur cool, I liek you. Have my babies?

[QUOTE="dominer"]

yea GTA was funny,but jokes get old quick,then what are ya gonna do?Plus,I still think R* could've made the game fun even though they suffered from "it must be teh realisicz" syndrome.

FrozenLiquid

The jokes will never get old as long as Rupert Murdoch owns News Corp.

Saying "huh?" yet?

Now you know why GTA IV is an adult-oriented game.

So what I dont get a few inside jokes,imo It doesnt make a game for me.Aside from a few inside references I dont find GTA4 to be a "mature" game,I can bring up alot reasons why.ah well it seems our opinions differ greatly.

GTA IV is no more a sandbox game as it is an action/TPS with sandbox elements. That's the path R* took, and will probably continue with. There's Saint's Row 2 for all those teenagers that got left behind with GTA IV's turn to maturity.

Instead of base jumping and flying commercial jets with some random ignorant black youngster (it may be fun to fly airliners, but totally unrealistic unless your character is 40 years old and has spent his life flying), they decided all the small details will contribute to a more lively world you can believe as you play through their narrative.

Perhaps they didn't care for the end-game. Maybe they decided to actually make it interesting to walk the streets of Liberty City and see things you'd expect to see. I know I'm enjoying it.

FrozenLiquid

Its al-right but not that goodepic_pets

So what I dont get a few inside jokes,imo It doesnt make a game for me.Aside from a few inside references I dont find GTA4 to be a "mature" game,I can bring up alot reasons why.ah well it seems our opinions differ greatly.

dominer

It's not an inside joke.

It's general knowledge.

Find out who Rupert Murdoch is, and then you'll figure out why he's important in GTA's social satire.

I love GTA4, I love MGS4. I will love GTA4 this Christmas, I will love MGS4 this Christmas.

90% of gamers can't say that.

In less than 30 days we will begin to see a steady stream of "Metal Gear Solid 4 is overrated, I'm selling it to put towards Resistance 2! GOTY!" threads.

Makes me sick.

[QUOTE="dominer"]

So what I dont get a few inside jokes,imo It doesnt make a game for me.Aside from a few inside references I dont find GTA4 to be a "mature" game,I can bring up alot reasons why.ah well it seems our opinions differ greatly.

FrozenLiquid

It's not an inside joke.

It's general knowledge.

Find out who Rupert Murdoch is, and then you'll figure out why he's important in GTA's social satire.

Rupert Murdoch is a true patriot, and a culture warrior. If you question him, you're prolly a terrorist pedophile liberal.

Gamers are getting jaded and nearly impossible to please? It's an amazing game in every single way. If someone doesn't like it, it's not the games fault. Peoples tastes change over time...BioShockOwnz

no..stop trying to make it sound like its the consumers fault that R* sold them(us) a good movie but horrible game.