Graphics king 2010: Halo: Reach (56K? Seriously?)

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#1 mr_poodles123
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Here is a Beta screenshot, showing how much the game has improved.


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i can not understand why people find this game graphically impressive at all.

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#3 mystervj
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No it's not gfx king, is more or less around the level of a better looking multiplat, it's pretty colorful for a FPS though.
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#4 gamebreakerz__
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It looks worse than average.
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#5 Ross_the_Boss6
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It's sooooo pretty. I don't think it's technically the best though. It's not even better than Crysis.

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#6 arto1223
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i can not understand why people find this game graphically impressive at all.

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I agree... the textures are just really bad, the physics don't add much, the size isn't all that impressive, and the player count is very low. Halo games may have somewhat decent gameplay but their graphics have never been a standout quality.

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#7 lespaul1919
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i can not understand why people find this game graphically impressive at all.

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yeah, looks like an N64 game.

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#8 jasonharris48
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It looks worse than average.gamebreakerz__
No it doesn't. As for topic it looks nice but not graphic king material IMO. If you want a game that loks worse than average check out Perfect Dark Zero, Vampire Reign Bullet Witch.

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#9 bigboss5ak
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Halo isnt about graphics but still reach is one of the best looking games cant wait
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#11 SilentlyMad
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Halo is known to have large areas with large amounts of people unlike many of the hallway shooters now so it will be interesting to see Reach considering Bungie has said they have doubled the amount of enemy AI and vehicles on screen at once. I think graphically what Reach is doing will be better then many of the so called graphic kings. It is MUCH harder to pull off what bungie is doing with 40 enemy AI and in a large area then 3-4 enemy AI in a small area.

I am glad Bungie did not feel pressure to buckle and make a hallway shooter to compete for the graphics king title and instead make the type of game that made them legands.

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#13 JangoWuzHere
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Looks nice...not amazing

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#14 karasill
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Considering the beta honestly looked no better then Halo 3 and was also a jagfest I'm calling bullshots. Unless the campaign is sigificantly better looking then the Reach beta I've played then Halo Reach is no graphics king.

With that said I do believe Reach is a good looking game and I think the scale that bungie is going after is impressive... I think the texture work, geometry, and effects are good, they just need to add AA to make the game look great. However if the beta is any indication of Reach's graphics then it will remain a jagfest like the others before it and should not even be considered to be in the top 10 best looking console games.

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#15 karasill
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[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

i can not understand why people find this game graphically impressive at all.

I agree... the textures are just really bad, the physics don't add much, the size isn't all that impressive, and the player count is very low. Halo games may have somewhat decent gameplay but their graphics have never been a standout quality.

I'm pretty sure Halo CE and Halo 2 were considered one of the Xbox's best looking games. For their time they were very impressive. You may want to retract that last statement.
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[QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

i can not understand why people find this game graphically impressive at all.

karasill

I agree... the textures are just really bad, the physics don't add much, the size isn't all that impressive, and the player count is very low. Halo games may have somewhat decent gameplay but their graphics have never been a standout quality.

I'm pretty sure Halo CE and Halo 2 were considered one of the Xbox's best looking games. For their time they were very impressive. You may want to retract that last statement.

Just shows how much XBOX sucked then

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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Halo is known to have large areas with large amounts of people unlike many of the hallway shooters now so it will be interesting to see Reach considering Bungie has said they have doubled the amount of enemy AI and vehicles on screen at once. I think graphically what Reach is doing will be better then many of the so called graphic kings. It is MUCH harder to pull off what bungie is doing with 40 enemy AI and in a large area then 3-4 enemy AI in a small area.

I am glad Bungie did not feel pressure to buckle and make a hallway shooter to compete for the graphics king title and instead make the type of game that made them legands.

Well said, i also find it ironic that even the best looking shooters dont have an impact community wise and sales wise as halo. I guess the consumers has spoken that better gameplay is more important than graphics
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[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

I agree... the textures are just really bad, the physics don't add much, the size isn't all that impressive, and the player count is very low. Halo games may have somewhat decent gameplay but their graphics have never been a standout quality.

P-vs-P

I'm pretty sure Halo CE and Halo 2 were considered one of the Xbox's best looking games. For their time they were very impressive. You may want to retract that last statement.

Just shows how much XBOX sucked then

yeah, it sucked so bad it had the best looking console games all gen. gg.

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#19 washd123
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its not bad just nothing impressive. if this was say 2005 or 06 you may have a case

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#20 linkin_guy109
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you know i just realized something, halo and starcraft 2 share the same art style :O

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#21 linkin_guy109
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[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

i can not understand why people find this game graphically impressive at all.

I agree... the textures are just really bad, the physics don't add much, the size isn't all that impressive, and the player count is very low. Halo games may have somewhat decent gameplay but their graphics have never been a standout quality.

I'm pretty sure Halo CE and Halo 2 were considered one of the Xbox's best looking games. For their time they were very impressive. You may want to retract that last statement.

best looking games for the original xbox im pretty sure were hitman blood money, conker, and riddick, there are probably others but those are the ones that come to mind off of the top of my head
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#22 karasill
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[QUOTE="P-vs-P"]

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

I agree... the textures are just really bad, the physics don't add much, the size isn't all that impressive, and the player count is very low. Halo games may have somewhat decent gameplay but their graphics have never been a standout quality.

I'm pretty sure Halo CE and Halo 2 were considered one of the Xbox's best looking games. For their time they were very impressive. You may want to retract that last statement.

Just shows how much XBOX sucked then

Yeah :roll: The only problem with your statement is that the Xbox usually had the best looking games and beat out the PS2 and Gamecube 95% of the time when it came to grahpics.
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#23 ZarbonX
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dude that doesn't look better then MW2 graphically

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#25 NVIDIATI
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Not impressed at all.

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#26 karasill
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[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="arto1223"]

I agree... the textures are just really bad, the physics don't add much, the size isn't all that impressive, and the player count is very low. Halo games may have somewhat decent gameplay but their graphics have never been a standout quality.

linkin_guy109

I'm pretty sure Halo CE and Halo 2 were considered one of the Xbox's best looking games. For their time they were very impressive. You may want to retract that last statement.

best looking games for the original xbox im pretty sure were hitman blood money, conker, and riddick, there are probably others but those are the ones that come to mind off of the top of my head

I said one of the best, not the best. Riddick was impressive but it was also a hallway shooter. Halo was just a small step down with a much bigger open environment.

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#27 Solid_Link22
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looks pretty good but not graphics king though.

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#28 mr_poodles123
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dude that doesn't look better then MW2 graphically

ZarbonX

Really?

It's good, but unfortunately MW2 sucks.

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#29 linkin_guy109
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[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

dude that doesn't look better then MW2 graphically

mr_poodles123

Really?

It's good, but unfortunately MW2 sucks.

now you see thats just not a fair comparison, your posting a really bad picture of modern warfare 2, mw2 may not look as good as reach but it doesnt look THAT bad

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#30 mayceV
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Considering the beta honestly looked no better then Halo 3 and was also a jagfest I'm calling bullshots. Unless the campaign is sigificantly better looking then the Reach beta I've played then Halo Reach is no graphics king. With that said I do believe Reach is a good looking game and I think the scale that bungie is going after is impressive... I think the texture work, geometry, and effects are good, they just need to add AA to make the game look great. However if the beta is any indication of Reach's graphics then it will remain a jagfest like the others before it and should not even be considered to be in the top 10 best looking console games.karasill
they have MSAAx2. improvment from the beta are SSAO, better color contrast and better/ smoother AA (no more ghosting), The entire game recieved another layer of polish. and campaign always looks noticeably better than MP in halo. its funny people are bashing the textures. In halo 3 some textures are crystal clear even under the view of x4 sniper scope, if Reach has twice the texture resolution and higher native reasolution how could it look bad? then bungie has stated that Reach has 4 million more polygons on screen than Halo 3. Reach has a 3d sky box meaning those clouds and mountain in the back ground are 3D unlike UC2's 2D clouds, other than that, reach has 10 times more dynamic lights than Halo 3 does (40), each plasma bolt is its own light source and an enrgy sowrd casts light on everything around it, The character models have 30K polygons in them, meaning more than Kz2 and nearly every other game on the 360 and Ps3. Reach has a smooth LOD system that streams more detail on things closer to you while the farther things get an imposter to allow more detail on closer objects. I don't think it looks better than GOW3 though, and it defiently won't look better than GT5 but it is graphics king of the 360- Easy. It is very technically profecient however, 40 AI and 20 vehicles all doing thier thing, thousands of colliding particle effectsgorgeuous tesselated water effects and shadows. game looks very pretty, and is the best looking 360 game to date.
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#31 NotTarts
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[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

dude that doesn't look better then MW2 graphically

mr_poodles123

Really?

It's good, but unfortunately MW2 sucks.

Yes, really.

Try posting a proper picture next time.

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#32 mr_poodles123
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[QUOTE="karasill"]Considering the beta honestly looked no better then Halo 3 and was also a jagfest I'm calling bullshots. Unless the campaign is sigificantly better looking then the Reach beta I've played then Halo Reach is no graphics king. With that said I do believe Reach is a good looking game and I think the scale that bungie is going after is impressive... I think the texture work, geometry, and effects are good, they just need to add AA to make the game look great. However if the beta is any indication of Reach's graphics then it will remain a jagfest like the others before it and should not even be considered to be in the top 10 best looking console games.mayceV
they have MSAAx2. improvment from the beta are SSAO, better color contrast and better/ smoother AA (no more ghosting), The entire game recieved another layer of polish. and campaign always looks noticeably better than MP in halo. its funny people are bashing the textures. In halo 3 some textures are crystal clear even under the view of x4 sniper scope, if Reach has twice the texture resolution and higher native reasolution how could it look bad? then bungie has stated that Reach has 4 million more polygons on screen than Halo 3. Reach has a 3d sky box meaning those clouds and mountain in the back ground are 3D unlike UC2's 2D clouds, other than that, reach has 10 times more dynamic lights than Halo 3 does (40), each plasma bolt is its own light source and an enrgy sowrd casts light on everything around it, The character models have 30K polygons in them, meaning more than Kz2 and nearly every other game on the 360 and Ps3. Reach has a smooth LOD system that streams more detail on things closer to you while the farther things get an imposter to allow more detail on closer objects. I don't think it looks better than GOW3 though, and it defiently won't look better than GT5 but it is graphics king of the 360- Easy. It is very technically profecient however, 40 AI and 20 vehicles all doing thier thing, thousands of colliding particle effectsgorgeuous tesselated water effects and shadows. game looks very pretty, and is the best looking 360 game to date.

Basically, reach looks awesome.
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#33 mayceV
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[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]

[QUOTE="mr_poodles123"]

[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

dude that doesn't look better then MW2 graphically

Really?

It's good, but unfortunately MW2 sucks.

now you see thats just not a fair comparison, your posting a really bad picture of modern warfare 2, mw2 may not look as good as reach but it doesnt look THAT bad

it does up close, probably the worst textures this gen.
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#34 ZarbonX
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wow dude u used a screenshot from a one mission vehicle that prolly wasn't worked on much of course that snowspeeder doesn't look good MW2 wasn't snowspeeder realism game

and Its my opinion that i thing graphically the scenery and the character an guns look more realistic and graphically enhanced then halo reach an thats my opinion do whatever uw atnt with it just dont post snowspeeder screenshots

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#35 mayceV
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[QUOTE="NotTarts"]

[QUOTE="mr_poodles123"]

[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

dude that doesn't look better then MW2 graphically

Really?

It's good, but unfortunately MW2 sucks.

Yes, really.

Try posting a proper picture next time.

yeah I played that level on the 360 and it doesn't look that good, that is obviously PC- even then it doesn't look as good as reach. walk up to any texture and you can count pixels.
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#37 NotTarts
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[QUOTE="NotTarts"]

[QUOTE="mr_poodles123"]

Really?

It's good, but unfortunately MW2 sucks.

mayceV

Yes, really.

Try posting a proper picture next time.

yeah I played that level on the 360 and it doesn't look that good, that is obviously PC- even then it doesn't look as good as reach. walk up to any texture and you can count pixels.

I know MW2 doesn't look as good as Reach (especially in motion), but the screenshot he posted was just ridiculous.

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#38 konzen29
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i just like the art style of halo

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#39 mr_poodles123
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[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="NotTarts"]

Yes, really.

Try posting a proper picture next time.

NotTarts

yeah I played that level on the 360 and it doesn't look that good, that is obviously PC- even then it doesn't look as good as reach. walk up to any texture and you can count pixels.

I know MW2 doesn't look as good as Reach (especially in motion), but the screenshot he posted was just ridiculous.

I posted a picture of when the game is trying it's hardest. Here is when reach is trying it's hardest.

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#40 themagicbum9720
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doesn't look good at all. not impressed.
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#41 mayceV
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[QUOTE="NotTarts"]

[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="NotTarts"]

Yes, really.

Try posting a proper picture next time.

yeah I played that level on the 360 and it doesn't look that good, that is obviously PC- even then it doesn't look as good as reach. walk up to any texture and you can count pixels.

I know MW2 doesn't look as good as Reach (especially in motion), but the screenshot he posted was just ridiculous.

yeah, it was pretty attrocious, just a tip though, try posting 720p shots because the pic you posted is considered a bullshot because downsizing a pic gives it FSAA because the pixels are shrunk, it also hides visual blemishes.
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#42 IAMSERIAL
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It's disappointing how Bungie lied again. The game is not done on a new engine and it just doesn't look like much of an improvement. I know Halo isn't about graphics, but that certainly wasn't the case LAST GEN. Halo 2 was one of the top looking games on consoles. Halo 3 and now Reach is looking mediocre. I'm sure the game will be great though.
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#43 wooooode
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Nothing in game does not really help your case. With FF13, GoW3, GT5, Alan Wake, and even Bioshock 2 should more than give it a run for its money.
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#44 teun3sixty
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Lol at people who even say a halo game has bad textures. Halo 2, halo 3, halo odst and reach's engine use multiple texture layer technology. if you zoom in with a sniper on a rock in halo reach, you still see amazing new detail you wouldnt see by just looking at it normally. Further more, halo reach is going to be the best looking fps game of consoles to date. Modern warfare 2 uses bitmap technology, bitmap images alover, it aims for an realistic look with this style. Halo reach has volemetric clouds, an insane draw distance, for example grass has a draw distance that destroys any game i've seen out there, no more 15meter radius pop up on that. Simulated particle systems, high textured models all around, a scale and things going on that is amazing. There is no game that does what halo reach does technology wise on consoles. graphics are not only a simple given screen. Any game can be made ugly via a screenshot that's a straight fact. Halo reach amazingly fluid animation, just look at the assassinations that go on, or the amazing explosions. On top of that, the artistic direction is top notch, and is arguably in the top. Maybe most of you appreciate graphics via a screenshot or a moment capture screen. I appreciate a game's graphics by its technological achievements and artstyle. Halo reach beats all fps console games in that department, in my opinion. Btw dont post screens of crysis and comparing it to reach. Or Call of pripyat, wich is probably the most realistic looking game on the planet with reloaded 0.6. Screen wars are always biased.
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#45 abuabed
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The artwork is beautiful but the graphics are lower than average imo.
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#46 chronocross668
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Looks like Halo Ce pc version. Only halo can get aways with xbox 1 level graphic, in 2010 and stil score 9.5 lol sad.

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#47 mayceV
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[QUOTE="wooooode"]Nothing in game does not really help your case. With FF13, GoW3, GT5, Alan Wake, and even Bioshock 2 should more than give it a run for its money.[/QOTE] GOW3 and GT5 is the only ones giving it a run for its money, other games are beat by Reach, (actually I think GT5 and GOW3 trumph HR) still though FF13 no, AW no, adn Bioshock 2 no. its by no means graphics king, but it is on 360. seriously though the game does so much and still has split screen and plenty of other things, it is very technically profecient, and beats eveything currently on 360. atleast until Crysis 2 comes around.
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#48 Einhanderkiller
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It looks solid, but no way is it anywhere close to being a "graphics king."
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#49 PAL360
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It looks fantastic but not console graphics king. That goes to RDR