GoldenEye is Overrated.

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#1 GodLovesDead
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I come to dethrone Goldneye from it's "First Amazing Console FPS" or whatever you wish to pin on it. Rare was extremely sloppy when they made this game. This game has way too many flaws to be amazing. It's just easy to ignore when you're playing an innovative FPS that hasn't been done before. Let's see what we have here. First Case...

-------------------------------------The Main Menu

Where to begin? This main menu is extremely creepy. I shouldn't have to explain what's wrong with it.

-------------------------------------Pointless Button Interaction

I've always asked myself "What's the ****ing point of this?".

Why does a truck come through? What does any of this have to do with the plot or movie? How does this help level design? It lacks purpos.

-------------------------------------No Bungie Cord

When I was a child, playing this game, I literally thought he just killed himself.

-------------------------------------Trees.

Dear God! These trees just border the level.

-------------------------------------Lack of Voice Acting.

Since it's so much fun watching a short dialogue take up 3 minutes.

-------------------------------------Filler Missions

I know, this is stretching it a bit. But the highlighted missions are seriously underdeveloped. They lack purpose, direction, and just don't add to the game.


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I'm not claiming Goldeneye is a bad game. It's just Rare didn't spend enough time or effort into it. Perfect Dark on the other hand is perfect. It featured full-fledged voice acting, a great soundtrack, extreme amounts of unique guns, several game modes, and a multiplayer mode that still offers more customizability than any game out there. People are always talking about Goldeneye being one of the greats - but really it was all Perfect Dark. Perfect Dark improved on Goldeneye in virtually every area.

And I only made this thread because Goldeneye is rarely bashed.

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#2 nyoroism
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Maybe when you were a kid, you couldn't understand that it was the first console FPS done right.

It's nothing nowadays, but back in the day...

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#3 web966
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Goldeneye is an amazing game that i spent my whole childhood playing. Its a classic.
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#4 Samurai_Xavier
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Lol I think this post is funny.
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#5 PhoebusFlows
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By picking it apart (although you may also just be joking with us) you only made me remember how much I loved this game. It's in my Top Ten of all time games.
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#6 mattyomo99
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it was the first FPS on a console done right with awesome multiplayer

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#7 Sup11722
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If You Were Around To Play or u were around but didnt play itI understand what u meen

if you were there to play it we all no we witnessed a new reign of power in the FPS genre

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#8 GodLovesDead
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By picking it apart (although you may also just be joking with us) you only made me remember how much I loved this game. It's in my Top Ten of all time games. PhoebusFlows

I am just joking. I still play the game all the time. But it's just insane how much better Perfect Dark is. Also, Goldeneye just has a lot of things that are easy to pick apart.

EDIT: And I infact played this game within it's few days of release. I did beat it on 00 Agent on every single level. I know how great it was for it's time.

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#9 thirstychainsaw
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Perfect Dark was better but Golden Eye was still great.
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#10 -Karmum-
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GoldenEye was released 7-9 years ago. :|
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#11 umcommon
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For its time it was a very good game. For being one of the first counsole FPS games it wasn't bad by any meens.
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#12 Derek240
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^ post above says it all.

Maybe the OP is just being sarcastic? That is the only logical explanation for such a statement (goldeneye overrated).

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time machine!!!!!!!!
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#14 Unstoppable_1
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Of course Perfect Dark is better, the N64 was already out for several years before Perfect Dark. Goldeneye was close to a launch title for the system. Secondly developing for the N64 was like pulling teeth. Thirdly they had to do it with all the handicaps the system created. Like low video memory. Goldeneye is a stellar game and sold millions of copies.
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#15 sammyjenkis898
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It was the first FPS using one analog stick that was actually fun..very fun at that.
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#16 -MuadDib-
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I totally agree. This game is just absolutely horrid. It's almost as if they made the game in 1997 or something!

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#17 Unforgiven2870
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I would have to say Syphon filter was better.Man i can actually picture that game turning into a movie though.
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#18 dream431ca
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If GoldenEye is overrated, then Gears of war, Half-life 2, Crysis, CoD4 and many other shooters are extremely overrated. GoldenEye started the FPS for the console. That was the best game for a long time on N64 until Perfect dark came out. If I had that game, I'd still play it.
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#19 Lazy_Boy88
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It's overrated but back in the day it was hands down the best console fps ever. Hell you could argue best period since prettymuch no PC FPS until Half-life had crap for a story. It's so ancient and outclassed now days I don't see how you could ever call it the best console FPS ever. That's reserved for a little title called Halo:CE so far.
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#20 foxhound_fox
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For its time Goldeneye was an outstanding game. As was Perfect Dark. There are only a couple FPS games that are timeless and GE and PD are not among them. They show their age quite significantly today, but that doesn't make them "overrated."
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#21 ZhenDash
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I'm pretty sure that it's quite crappy when Goldeneye is compared to today's shooters but it sits right at the top of one of the best shooters war back then.
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#22 Re5ident_Evil
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Goldeneye still pwns to this day.
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#23 Wemhim256
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Yeah, that's cool, don't even acknowledge it was made in 1996!!!! Things were different, what did you expect, Euphoria physics?
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#24 Svarthek
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This thread makes me feel the same way as when people review old games.  Kid Icarus got like a 5 on Gamespot, seriously, wtf?  
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#25 furtherfan
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it only sucks in retrospect.... can't you understand that. back then it was great... and allready flawed. kinda like red steel: lots of fun to play, but lots of stuff wrong with it..

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#26 Svarthek
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it only sucks in retrospect.... can't you understand that. back then it was great... and allready flawed. kinda like red steel: lots of fun to play, but lots of stuff wrong with it..

furtherfan

Comparing Goldeneye to Red Steel?  Mistake.
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#27 brainiac24
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best fps ever, IMO.
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#28 furtherfan
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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]

it only sucks in retrospect.... can't you understand that. back then it was great... and allready flawed. kinda like red steel: lots of fun to play, but lots of stuff wrong with it..

Svarthek


Comparing Goldeneye to Red Steel? Mistake.

they are VERY a like. more than people realise. both fun too.

BIG mistake??. what.. you're gonna kill me now..?.. relax

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#29 raskullibur
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The Original Medal of Honor for the PS1 is much more impressive than Goldeneye.
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#30 Baird-06
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So many awesome memories with this game. :)
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#31 m_machine024
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Man I loved that game. Great single player. Fun multiplayer. Good times.
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#32 i_like_pizza
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Goldeneye is a classic.

What you're really saying is that it's dated, which everyone can agree with. What you think you're saying is that it's overrated, which no one will agree with.

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#33 killzones
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Golden Eye is the most important console shooter ever.
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#34 nowayasway
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think what alot of people are forgetting is that most of the things you see in goldeneye are now standard in most FPS but before goldeneye they were almost unheard of or at least hadn't been done properly or perfected. Heres a few examples they may sound silly now but at the time they were revolutionary.

Body specific shots- before goldeneye if you shot anyone in any part of their body they reacted the same in goldeneye you shoot some on in the hand they hold their hand. this was not seen or done at all in may games at the the time.

Motion capture for character/ ememies- yes this also wasnt done at all in most games (hard to believe now) this is why the enemies animated so relisticly for the time any way.

The number of guns- most FPS had 10 guns to use if you were lucky goldeneye had over 25!

Gadgets/equipment-yip never really used in FPS at the time except for collecting keys if you were lucky same goes for objectives in a FPS most just included shoot everything and reach exit.

there are so many more to mention such as bond changing his cloths for different missions lol it was the little things like that that really made the game stand out from the crowd at the time. Like i said there are so many more see what others you can spot.

Without goldeneye most of the standard things we have in FPS just wouldnt be around today and to a lesser extent halo is the same how many games now only have you hold 2 weapons at a time or have a re-chargable shield or energy?

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#35 Mstrchiefpwns
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Goldeneye is a classic and was pretty much the only console fps worth playing for its time(that being before perfect dark, of course).

When you compare it to any other consolefps during its time(pre-perfect dark), nothing even comes close.

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#36 tomarlyn
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It was god to me when it was out but now I can't stand playing it. I'll definately be going back to Halo in 20 years I know that, just as I've gone back to Super Mario. Goldeneye aged badly.

In all honesty though I think Perfect Dark is more overated than Goldeneye.

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#37 ganon546
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Well what the hell do you think, this game came out 10 years ago!!! For its time it was the greatest FPS ever.
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#38 Samurai_Xavier
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GoldenEye was released 7-9 years ago. :|-Karmum-

More like 10.

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#39 Jakster4u
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This had the funnest multiplayer besides mario kart, I mean why would you complain about it 10 years later.
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#40 white_sox
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Z button firing = unbeatable. I still play the game, honest to God I played it this week.
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#41 Eponique
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ROFL, where you actually complaining about voice acting? The Trees on the border? No bungie cord? I hope you realize this was an early N64 game. (Sorry if you didn't realize that if you weren't playing :\).

This game revolutionized, so shush your pie ^.^

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#42 Panzer_Zwei
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It aged terribly.
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#43 munsoned
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sounds like some1 has played it for the first time on the vc.of course its gonna suck if u missed it back in the day.only a few classics of them days can still be playable today.
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#44 jrhawk42
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If you had never played a PC FPS before then golden eye probably seemed pretty good, but everybody I knew that had played Quake, Duke Nukem, or some other FPS on pc at that time agreed that GoldenEye was complete and utter crap.
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#45 Eponique
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sounds like some1 has played it for the first time on the vc.of course its gonna suck if u missed it back in the day.only a few classics of them days can still be playable today.munsoned

Any game is playable if you don't whine about reading a couple of letters and when you know the game was made a long time ago.

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#46 creativeminded
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This post is simply wrong. It was great back then so why compare it to todays FPS?
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#47 knufsed
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This topic and it's topic creator is so disrepectful to all of us veteran gamers.

He's a Super-duper Troll. He got this idea to post this from an earlier topic on hear about: the most respected games of SW. And of course Golden Eye came up repeatedly. So therefore, he couldn't stand that, so he decided to try to flame all of us.

LOOSER.

This game was so awesome 10 years ago, and he knows it.

So he was expecting theses types of responses from all of us.

"Trollerific!"

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#48 johnpoop1234
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best game ever, to bad they wont release it on the VC or the DS
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#49 edd678
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When you talk about the trees and graphics you talk as if goldeneye was only released this gen. It was made a LONG time ago you know :P
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#50 metroidprime_1
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LooooooooooooooooL Dang man funny :lol: Goldeneye is the best FPS ever set the ground for it all.