German youth law is restricting Eshop content on the WiiU. Goodbye EU.

An update has been released for the Eshop restriction that is affecting all of Europe. Some German youth law me and a bunch of other users mentioned in the last couple of days is affecting NOE's ability to provide M rated content on the eshop during the day.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/german-law-blocking-wii-u-content-in-europe-6401323

So NOE is pretty much screwed if they can't move out of Germany.

From what I have been reading recently it's impossible to get rid of this regulation in the parts of the EU that don't need it.

As bad as South Korea. We have PSN store down for everyone, PSN doesn't allow anyone under 18 years old to play games online, and Live is shut down for evreyone after midnight till 6AM They are also trying to expand this law to mobile devices as well (phones).funsohng

:lol:

Thank god I live in canada. I thought you lived in canada part time?

Germany has always had these weird laws.
They also can't show blood in videogames if I recall.

I didn't know South Korea had it this rough though, silly rules.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]As bad as South Korea. We have PSN store down for everyone, PSN doesn't allow anyone under 18 years old to play games online, and Live is shut down for evreyone after midnight till 6AM They are also trying to expand this law to mobile devices as well (phones).super600

:lol:

Thank god I live in canada. I thought you lived in canada part time?

Germany has always had these weird laws.
They also can't show blood in videogames if I recall.

I didn't know South Korea had it this rough though, silly rules.

Sagem28

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Germany has always had these weird laws.
They also can't show blood in videogames if I recall.

I didn't know South Korea had it this rough though, silly rules.

funsohng

:?

Damn...

You probably can't wait till your back in Canada.

Germany has always had these weird laws.
They also can't show blood in videogames if I recall.

I didn't know South Korea had it this rough though, silly rules.

Sagem28

Yeah Germany is very strict when it comes to video games, removing swastikas, gibbing, blood. Games release later because of the need for censorship at times. RTCW didn't have any swastikas in it. L4D2 had zero gore.

And in Australia it's pretty much the same situation.Dunno if South Korea actively censors video games, but yeah what funsohng says is pretty lame.

And for what really ? I'm sure people are as fvcked up or normal (depending on the person) in those countries as in countries where there is no censorship on games.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Germany has always had these weird laws.
They also can't show blood in videogames if I recall.

I didn't know South Korea had it this rough though, silly rules.

Sagem28

:?

Damn...

You probably can't wait till your back in Canada.

Yeah Germany is very strict when it comes to video games, removing swastikas, gibbing, blood. Games release later because of the need for censorship at times. RTCW didn't have any swastikas in it. L4D2 had zero gore.

And in Australia it's pretty much the same situation.Dunno if South Korea actively censors video games, but yeah what funsohng says is pretty lame.

And for what really ? I'm sure people are as fvcked up or normal (depending on the person) in those countries as in countries where there is no censorship on games.

R4gn4r0k

They also didn't get Nazi Zombies, though thats understandable :P.

Btw, love your sig R4gn4r0k. Is that Men of war ?

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Germany has always had these weird laws.
They also can't show blood in videogames if I recall.

I didn't know South Korea had it this rough though, silly rules.

R4gn4r0k

Yeah Germany is very strict when it comes to video games, removing swastikas, gibbing, blood. Games release later because of the need for censorship at times. RTCW didn't have any swastikas in it. L4D2 had zero gore.

And in Australia it's pretty much the same situation.Dunno if South Korea actively censors video games, but yeah what funsohng says is pretty lame.

And for what really ? I'm sure people are as fvcked up or normal (depending on the person) in those countries as in countries where there is no censorship on games.

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Yeah Germany is very strict when it comes to video games, removing swastikas, gibbing, blood. Games release later because of the need for censorship at times. RTCW didn't have any swastikas in it. L4D2 had zero gore.

And in Australia it's pretty much the same situation.Dunno if South Korea actively censors video games, but yeah what funsohng says is pretty lame.

And for what really ? I'm sure people are as fvcked up or normal (depending on the person) in those countries as in countries where there is no censorship on games.

Sagem28

They also didn't get Nazi Zombies, though thats understandable :P.

Btw, love your sig R4gn4r0k. Is that Men of war ?

They also didn't het Nazi Zombies, though thats understandable :P.

Btw, love your sig R4gn4r0k. Is that Men of war ?

Sagem28

I don't get the reasoning. Are they afraid people will turn into nazis when they see a swastika ? Because there is already a neo-nazi problem and games are censored so that can't be the cause...

I get the situation in Australia and South Korea even less, because they don't have the same WW2 history as Germany.

Thanks, it's from the upcoming Company of Heroes 2. Really hyped for this game now that I'm playing the first one again :)

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Yeah Germany is very strict when it comes to video games, removing swastikas, gibbing, blood. Games release later because of the need for censorship at times. RTCW didn't have any swastikas in it. L4D2 had zero gore.

And in Australia it's pretty much the same situation.Dunno if South Korea actively censors video games, but yeah what funsohng says is pretty lame.

And for what really ? I'm sure people are as fvcked up or normal (depending on the person) in those countries as in countries where there is no censorship on games.

funsohng

They also didn't get Nazi Zombies, though thats understandable :P.

Btw, love your sig R4gn4r0k. Is that Men of war ?

Looks like you're right.

Need to look into this game, been too long since I played a good RTS.

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

They also didn't het Nazi Zombies, though thats understandable :P.

Btw, love your sig R4gn4r0k. Is that Men of war ?

R4gn4r0k

I don't get the reasoning. Are they afraid people will turn into nazis when they see a swastika ? Because there is already a neo-nazi problem and games are censored so that can't be the cause...

I get the situation in Australia and South Korea even less, because they don't have the same WW2 history as Germany.

Thanks, it's from the upcoming Company of Heroes 2. Really hyped for this game now that I'm playing the first one again :)

Yeah, you know how sensitive Nazi stuff is in Germany...

I know some Germans on PSN, they just import these games from the Netherlands, so they bypass the censorship. Really not that hard.

Their censors are alright, but they did rate Mario games 18+ because the bonus rooms looks like slot machines. They do sh*ts like that. But nowadays, that ratings board is slowly losing influence, and some fascist women from Ministry of Women (yes, we have this ridiculous ministry for some reason. And no, they don't do anything about women's rights for some reason) is trying to pretty much make gaming the new drug and do a crackdown on the industry. What's more problematic is that, 80% of games that are released here are not translated.funsohng

I always thought South Korea was like the land of milk and honey compared to North Korea when it comes to freedom. And a dictator is candidate for president ? that won't improve the situation.

Fascist feminists limiting gaming ? Wonderful. Is there no outcry on this from the gaming community ?

I thought it was Company of Heores 2 screenshotsfunsohng

Yeah it's this screenshot. And I painted some hats on them:P

Yeah, you know how sensitive Nazi stuff is in Germany...

I know some Germans on PSN, they just import these games from the Netherlands, so they bypass the censorship. Really not that hard.

Sagem28

So in the end all the german laws hurt are the game retailers.

In Australia and South Korea its the case of letting stuck up people who don't really have it in for gaming decide what people get to play and in what state. That's really an abuse of power if I ever seen it. When there is stuff like PEGI, which is independant and perfectly suitable to give people a guideline if they should play it or not. And not if they can play it or not.

I'm glad to be Belgian in this situation:)

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Yeah, you know how sensitive Nazi stuff is in Germany...

I know some Germans on PSN, they just import these games from the Netherlands, so they bypass the censorship. Really not that hard.

R4gn4r0k

So in the end all the german laws hurt are the game retailers.

In Australia and South Korea its the case of letting stuck up people who don't really have it in for gaming decide what people get to play and in what state. That's really an abuse of power if I ever seen it. When there is stuff like PEGI, which is independant and perfectly suitable to give people a guideline if they should play it or not. And not if they can play it or not.

I'm glad to be Belgian in this situation:)

Letting people who know absolutely nothing about the industry decide it's fate is truly the best way to go !
It's like SOPA all over again. :roll:

Yeah, Belgium really isn't that bad. Those kinda shenanigans are practically non-existent here

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Their censors are alright, but they did rate Mario games 18+ because the bonus rooms looks like slot machines. They do sh*ts like that. But nowadays, that ratings board is slowly losing influence, and some fascist women from Ministry of Women (yes, we have this ridiculous ministry for some reason. And no, they don't do anything about women's rights for some reason) is trying to pretty much make gaming the new drug and do a crackdown on the industry. What's more problematic is that, 80% of games that are released here are not translated.R4gn4r0k

I always thought South Korea was like the land of milk and honey compared to North Korea when it comes to freedom. And a dictator is candidate for president ? that won't improve the situation.

Fascist feminists limiting gaming ? Wonderful. Is there no outcry on this from the gaming community ?

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

They also didn't het Nazi Zombies, though thats understandable :P.

Btw, love your sig R4gn4r0k. Is that Men of war ?

R4gn4r0k

I don't get the reasoning. Are they afraid people will turn into nazis when they see a swastika ? Because there is already a neo-nazi problem and games are censored so that can't be the cause...

I get the situation in Australia and South Korea even less, because they don't have the same WW2 history as Germany.

Thanks, it's from the upcoming Company of Heroes 2. Really hyped for this game now that I'm playing the first one again :)

It's because of violent crimes caused by playing video games according to this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/dec/12/news.germany

and this scholarly article.

http://bciptf.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/17-AN-ANALYSIS-OF-THE-VIDEO-GAME-REGULATION-HARMONIZATION-EFFORT-IN-THE-EUROPEAN-UNION-AND-ITS-TRANS-ATLANTIC-CHILLING-EFFECT-ON-CONSTITUTIONALLY-PROTECTED-EXPRESSION.pdf

ok now its decided , i wont even consider getting a nintendo console anymore, i dont like being told what to buy and when to do so

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

They also didn't het Nazi Zombies, though thats understandable :P.

Btw, love your sig R4gn4r0k. Is that Men of war ?

R4gn4r0k

I don't get the reasoning. Are they afraid people will turn into nazis when they see a swastika ? Because there is already a neo-nazi problem and games are censored so that can't be the cause...

I get the situation in Australia and South Korea even less, because they don't have the same WW2 history as Germany.

Thanks, it's from the upcoming Company of Heroes 2. Really hyped for this game now that I'm playing the first one again :)

ok now its decided , i wont even consider getting a nintendo console anymore, i dont like being told what to buy and when to do so

AmnesiaHaze

It's mostly those who committed those dumb crimes for creating the dumb youth laws.:P

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

ok now its decided , i wont even consider getting a nintendo console anymore, i dont like being told what to buy and when to do so

super600

It's mostly those who committed those dumb crimes for creating the dumb youth laws.:P

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

ok now its decided , i wont even consider getting a nintendo console anymore, i dont like being told what to buy and when to do so

AmnesiaHaze

It's mostly those who committed those dumb crimes for creating the dumb youth laws.:P

In this case it's almost impossible for the youth to view content for violent video games unless they can waste their time downloading and looking at these games after 10 or 11pm until 3 or 4am.

It still is the land of milk and honey compared to North Korea. But let's face it, any country is land of milk and honey compared to North Korea. The gaming communties wishes to talk, but they always get ignored. Gaming is not a preferred hobby, let's just say. Also the industry themselves are so focused on ripping money from their customers, that they aren't doing much about it until recently, but things have gone too far and things are going downhill. And she's not a dictator, she's the daughter of the worst dictator in South Korea, but she doesn't think her father's work was terrible, and even goes as far as to say it was necessary (which is absolutely disgusting). But she was the acting First Lady in the regime, so she was one of the high ranking person in that regime.funsohng

Yeah that is always the case, gamers don't get a say in the matter. Gaming is not a preferred hobby, but when more and more people get into gaming they won't be able to get around the subject anymore.

It's because of violent crimes caused by playing video games according to this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/dec/12/news.germany

and this scholarly article.

http://bciptf.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/17-AN-ANALYSIS-OF-THE-VIDEO-GAME-REGULATION-HARMONIZATION-EFFORT-IN-THE-EUROPEAN-UNION-AND-ITS-TRANS-ATLANTIC-CHILLING-EFFECT-ON-CONSTITUTIONALLY-PROTECTED-EXPRESSION.pdf

super600

People who don't play games: "I knew it was the games !"

People who play games: "That has nothing to do with the games"

And it'll always be like that. Only difference is that more and more people are starting to game, the people who don't play games will become the minority.

:lol:

I didn't notice the little Santa hats until now. Very nice.straightedge_X

:)

I'm not that good at making sigs though, I tried to make it so that the hats from people who are closer to you are bigger. But I noticed how the guy to the right, who is closest, got cut off, haha

Thank god Portugal doesn't seem to have none of that :P We are pretty liberal on what gets to be on tv/cinemas,and what people get to buy (be it movies, games or even books). At least our government still hasn't managed to f*ck that up lol

Desmonic

nope , these rules apply to adults as well , thats why games that are 18+ which are clearly not to be sold to kiddies are still being censored , cut or completely banned in Germany , sadly nintendo chosen to use German videogames logic of treating adults as people that cant decide what good for them for the whole Europe , that's the point where they lost my sale, i wasnt already convinced to get it based on the hardware and software plus being totally disapointed by the first wii , but this stupid decision of restricting content was just the final nail in the nintendo coffin for me

nope , these rules apply to adults as well , thats why games that are 18+ which are clearly not to be sold to kiddies are still being censored , cut or completely banned in Germany , sadly nintendo chosen to use German videogames logic of treating adults as people that cant decide what good for them for the whole Europe , that's the point where they lost my sale, i wasnt already convinced to get it based on the hardware and software plus being totally disapointed by the first wii , but this stupid decision of restricting content was just the final nail in the nintendo coffin for me

AmnesiaHaze

That sucks to hear.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

nope , these rules apply to adults as well , thats why games that are 18+ which are clearly not to be sold to kiddies are still being censored , cut or completely banned in Germany , sadly nintendo chosen to use German videogames logic of treating adults as people that cant decide what good for them for the whole Europe , that's the point where they lost my sale, i wasnt already convinced to get it based on the hardware and software plus being totally disapointed by the first wii , but this stupid decision of restricting content was just the final nail in the nintendo coffin for me

Peanut04_basic

[QUOTE="Peanut04_basic"][QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

nope , these rules apply to adults as well , thats why games that are 18+ which are clearly not to be sold to kiddies are still being censored , cut or completely banned in Germany , sadly nintendo chosen to use German videogames logic of treating adults as people that cant decide what good for them for the whole Europe , that's the point where they lost my sale, i wasnt already convinced to get it based on the hardware and software plus being totally disapointed by the first wii , but this stupid decision of restricting content was just the final nail in the nintendo coffin for me

AmnesiaHaze

As bad as South Korea. We have PSN store down for everyone, PSN doesn't allow anyone under 18 years old to play games online, and Live is shut down for evreyone after midnight till 6AM They are also trying to expand this law to mobile devices as well (phones).funsohng

Move to a free country then.

at least it doesn't seem to be restricting players buying Physical copies of M rated Titles.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]As bad as South Korea. We have PSN store down for everyone, PSN doesn't allow anyone under 18 years old to play games online, and Live is shut down for evreyone after midnight till 6AM They are also trying to expand this law to mobile devices as well (phones).percuvius2

Move to a free country then.

Brilliant solution.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]As bad as South Korea. We have PSN store down for everyone, PSN doesn't allow anyone under 18 years old to play games online, and Live is shut down for evreyone after midnight till 6AM They are also trying to expand this law to mobile devices as well (phones).percuvius2

Move to a free country then.

That's the solution ? just go to a different country if there is something wrong in yours :?

[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]As bad as South Korea. We have PSN store down for everyone, PSN doesn't allow anyone under 18 years old to play games online, and Live is shut down for evreyone after midnight till 6AM They are also trying to expand this law to mobile devices as well (phones).R4gn4r0k

Move to a free country then.

That's the solution ? just go to a different country if there is something wrong in yours :?

Its an extreme response but it is a viable solution.

clyde46

Abandoning everything and everyone just because of a minor issue you have with politics is not viable to me :P

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Its an extreme response but it is a viable solution.

R4gn4r0k

Abandoning everything and everyone just because of an issue you have with politics is not viable to me:P

Leaving a country because of a law limiting over 18+ game sales, yes thats silly but there are plenty of reasons to leave one's home country.

Leaving a country because of a law limiting over 18+ game sales, yes thats silly but there are plenty of reasons to leave one's home country.

clyde46

Yeah just to clarify I edited my post. I meant it as in minor issue, game related. Of course there are real political issues for which you would leave, or rather are forced to leave your country.

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Leaving a country because of a law limiting over 18+ game sales, yes thats silly but there are plenty of reasons to leave one's home country.

R4gn4r0k

Yeah just to clarify I edited my post. I meant it as in minor issue, game related. Of course there are real political issues for which you would leave, or rather are forced to leave your country.

I would leap at the chance to leave the UK. Too much political BS and ass kissing.

I would leap at the chance to leave the UK. Too much political BS and ass kissing.

clyde46

You really can't compare the UK political situation to countries like Egypt or Syria or Congo.

If the situation in the UK were that bad, you would have left already.

[QUOTE="clyde46"]

I would leap at the chance to leave the UK. Too much political BS and ass kissing.

R4gn4r0k

You really can't compare the UK political situation to countries like Egypt or Syria or Congo.

If the situation in the UK were that bad, you would have left already.

An update has been released for the Eshop restriction that is affecting all of Europe. Some German youth law me and a bunch of other users mentioned in the last couple of days is affecting NOE's ability to provide M rated content on the eshop during the day.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/german-law-blocking-wii-u-content-in-europe-6401323

So NOE is pretty much screwed if they can't move out of Germany.

From what I have been reading recently it's impossible to get rid of this regulation in the parts of the EU that don't need it.

super600