Gears 3 will retro lancer Uncharted 3 in the ***

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#1 TREAL_Since
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Sales and scores. Just wait and see. ND are taking on too much for a 2 year cycle. Drake's Deception is not gonna live up to the expectations we all have. It's just too astronomical and unrealistic to follow up on Uncharted 2. Since Gears 2 was a disappointment, Epic can only go UP with Gears 3. Can U3 match all of those GOTY awards? Repeat, or top the 96 on Metacritic. Heck naw.

Drake won't be able to barely escape with his life in this set piece battle against the COGs. He will be torn asunder by the rawness of Gears 3, and by the lancer up his *** (that's a censor bypass for butt, in case you didn't know). Uncharted 3 will have better story-telling (because the story in Uncharted games aren't that amazing, it's the characters and how the story is told that are outstanding), and better single player graphics admittedly. Gears 3 simply provides more satisfaction. Better sound design (much better). Better weapon/killing feedback. No BB gun and air rifle action here, please. We shoot real guns in Gears, homie!

Gears 3 has more enemy types to prevent redundancy. Co-op Arena got boring quick in the U3 Beta (not just because of the low map count). You face the same enemy types over and over. Also, Why the hell would I want to unlock new taunts when I can unlock new ways to kill my opponent while they are helplessly crawling to safety on their knees, and gushing excessive puddles of blood? Executions rock the socks off of lame taunts. Plus, there's more replay value with 4 player campaign co-op, bots in multiplayer, Beast Mode, ad Horde 2.0. Not to mention it's been in development for 3 years. Oh, sure, there's the innovative cinematic level design in Uncharted 3 multiplayer, but what good is that new feature when it's not consistent throughout every map? Airstrip is nice, nothing like that on the market! Chateau, only a room cathes on fire, which is weak. Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 both had environmental kills/changes years ago. And Yemen? There's nothing cinematic about it.

The cover system is better in Gears 3 as well. If you take a look at the majority of battles in Uncharted 3, cover is mostly used only to regain health. You rarely shoot from cover. And if you do, you'd end up screwed by someone from a high vantage point, or a stealth kill. It's cumbersome and too slow to detach yourself from cover (especially when a grenade is thrown your way, they blow within 2 seconds!). Too slow to pop out and aim compared to Gears. It's simply more responsive and snappier in Gears 3. Cover in Gears 3 feels like a true component to the game and a necessary mechanic to win a match. Most of the firefights in Uncharted 3 are just chumps standing in front of each other while ADS. Don't believe me? Watch the top plays of the week. Oh, and the detestable melee system. It's almost like Halo (except Reach's melee system actually works). People ignore cover, run up to one another shooting from the hip, followed by a gun butt (which has a laughable, goofy animation to begin with). The lunging is sometimes as bad as COD.

Gears 3 keeps it pure. No killstreaks, no kickbacks, no boosters, no armor abilities, no melee lunging, no perks, and no weapon mods. Symmetrical maps designed for optimal use of cover. Just straight gun-on-gun with chess-like strategy. Oh, and Gears 3 will have dedicated servers, Uncharted 3 will not. Boom. That's funny, aren't PS3 exclusive touted for their dedicated servers?

Can Naughty Dog even polish the huge game they are attempting to create? *sniff* *sniff* I smell another Resistance 2. Impressive and huge feature set, but too much left unpolished due to time constraints. The outcome may be worse than Gran Turismo 5 VS Forza 3, and we know how that turned out :/.

Sure, this argument may be a little one-sided, but I don't care. This is System Wars. My opinion is above yours.

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#3 Chris_Williams
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so it begins....

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#5 finalstar2007
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lulz for comparing a joke like gears to uncharted 3.

Uncharted 3>>> Gears or maybe should call it last stand 3 for having people going last stand every minute :P

and as you said This is System Wars. My opinion is above yours. ;)

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#6 balfe1990
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Excellent post.

I wholeheartedly agree. Gears will trounce UC.

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#7 balfe1990
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Agree. Gears 3 > Uncharted 3 in graphics, and gameplay.

Its a game for real men who want pure action and fantastic graphics and gameplay. uncharted is for girly boys who want to cry watching a story.

slarkyslark

I feel a storm is heading in your direction.

Also, lol girly boys.:P

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#8 PatchMaster
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lulz for comparing a joke like gears to uncharted 3.

Uncharted 3>>> Gears or maybe should call it last stand 3 for having people going last stand every minute :P

and as you said This is System Wars. My opinion is above yours. ;)

finalstar2007

Uh no. Incapping an enemy is not last stand. Executions and revivals are a big part of what Gears is about.

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#9 JohnF111
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Gears 3 = Uncharted 3... I see only differences that make the games unique, no bad games in this thread!
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#10 15strong
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All aboard the Uncharted 3 hate train!

First stop, 360 fantasy land.

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indeed, gears 3 is just pure tactical multiplayer gaming keeping it simple. the gameplay is more rewarding and robust than uncharted 3 can ever hope to accomplish.

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#13 Dead-Memories
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lulz for comparing a joke like gears to uncharted 3.

Uncharted 3>>> Gears or maybe should call it last stand 3 for having people going last stand every minute :P

and as you said This is System Wars. My opinion is above yours. ;)

finalstar2007

gears 3 intimidates some people because of the scope of the tactical gameplay and skill-cap required. uncharted 3 is a good fit ffor you man, enjoy it when it releases.

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While i agree that uncharted 3 will flop here in SW i think it will be a great game just like uncharted 2.TheGuardian03

There's no doubting that. I genuinely can't see it matching Gears 3 though.

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#15 slarkyslark
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Dead-Memories

gears 3 intimidates some people because of the scope and skill-cap required. uncharted 3 is a good fit ffor you man, enjoy it when it releases.

+1. Gears is one of the few console games that takes skill. Go play your uncharted or cod

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All i can guarantee is that Gears 3 campaign will be amazing, from graphics to length and variety! The bad news are that i have been watching more leaked vids than i should.

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I really haven't been impressed with either of them.

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I really haven't been impressed with either of them.

Wasdie

Then I'll make a thread stating why Gears 3 will crush Battlefield 3.

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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]While i agree that uncharted 3 will flop here in SW i think it will be a great game just like uncharted 2.balfe1990

There's no doubting that. I genuinely can't see it matching Gears 3 though.

Am I the only one who saw this at E3?

And then compared it to this. And realized how much better U3 is.

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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]While i agree that uncharted 3 will flop here in SW i think it will be a great game just like uncharted 2.15strong

There's no doubting that. I genuinely can't see it matching Gears 3 though.

Am I the only one who saw this at E3?

And then compared it to this. And realized how much better U3 is.

I think no one denies that Uncharted 3 had a better E3 presentation than Gears 3.

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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

slarkyslark

gears 3 intimidates some people because of the scope and skill-cap required. uncharted 3 is a good fit ffor you man, enjoy it when it releases.

+1. Gears is one of the few console games that takes skill. Go play your uncharted or cod

I really dont understand your posts...first you say "rip battlefield, you cant beat the master cod" now you bash on cod? seriously? would you at least put some effort in your posts?
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The pic of Sully is funny, because I can actually imagine his voice. LOL. Seriously guys, both games will be awesome. Enjoy either, or better yet, both. It looks like Gears might be a lil better looking in the MP arena, but UC3 will probably have a better SP experience. Both games will be great.
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

There's no doubting that. I genuinely can't see it matching Gears 3 though.

PAL360

Am I the only one who saw this at E3?

And then compared it to this. And realized how much better U3 is.

I think no one denies that Uncharted 3 had a better E3 presentation than Gears 3.

Somehow Uncharetd has become an automatic flop around here. And I can't figure out why.

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[QUOTE="slarkyslark"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] gears 3 intimidates some people because of the scope and skill-cap required. uncharted 3 is a good fit ffor you man, enjoy it when it releases.

lightleggy

+1. Gears is one of the few console games that takes skill. Go play your uncharted or cod

I really dont understand your posts...first you say "rip battlefield, you cant beat the master cod" now you bash on cod? seriously? would you at least put some effort in your posts?

battfiefield is boring and lame, cod owns it. But for competitive gaming gears owns all. Get it?
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I guess you'Ve already played both games.
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#26 slarkyslark
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

Am I the only one who saw this at E3?

And then compared it to this. And realized how much better U3 is.

15strong

I think no one denies that Uncharted 3 had a better E3 presentation than Gears 3.

Somehow Uncharetd has become an automatic flop around here. And I can't figure out why.

Because everyone is finally noticing how overrated it is.
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I really haven't been impressed with either of them.

TREAL_Since

Then I'll make a thread stating why Gears 3 will crush Battlefield 3.

You're going to try to compare a single Xbox 360 exclusive TPS to a multiplat FPS while FPSs are a big fad right now...

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="slarkyslark"] +1. Gears is one of the few console games that takes skill. Go play your uncharted or cod

slarkyslark

I really dont understand your posts...first you say "rip battlefield, you cant beat the master cod" now you bash on cod? seriously? would you at least put some effort in your posts?[/QUOTE

battfiefield is boring and lame, cod owns it. But for competitive gaming gears owns all. Get it?

] battlefield boring and lame? cods own it? No I dont get it.

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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I really haven't been impressed with either of them.

Wasdie

Then I'll make a thread stating why Gears 3 will crush Battlefield 3.

You're going to try to compare a single Xbox 360 exclusive TPS to a multiplat FPS while FPSs are a big fad right now...

Well, in that case, I'll make a thread saying why MW3 will own BF3.

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Really, you think it will be worse than GT5 vs Forza 3, nah I don't think UC3 will flop? Gears 2 wasn't bad, they can't "only go up" but they do have a lot of things they can improve. Uncharted 3? Not so much. The way I see it: Uncharted 3 SP, Gears 3 MP. :P
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Uncharted is just a poor mans Gears, and always will be.

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+1 Uncharted is a straight rip-off. Uncharted is Gears for 13 year old boys.
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[QUOTE="15strong"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I think no one denies that Uncharted 3 had a better E3 presentation than Gears 3.

slarkyslark

Somehow Uncharetd has become an automatic flop around here. And I can't figure out why.

Because everyone is finally noticing how overrated it is.

no, because people doubt that they can reach the quality of the 2nd one without making it feel "used", since the second one done a lot of new things and they doubt uncharted 3 wont be able to surpass that. I really believe uncharted 3 will get an 8.5-9.0 here
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[QUOTE="slarkyslark"][QUOTE="15strong"]

Somehow Uncharetd has become an automatic flop around here. And I can't figure out why.

lightleggy

Because everyone is finally noticing how overrated it is.

no, because people doubt that they can reach the quality of the 2nd one without making it feel "used", since the second one done a lot of new things and they doubt uncharted 3 wont be able to surpass that. I really believe uncharted 3 will get an 8.5-9.0 here

What did Uncharted 2 do new? I haven't played it but reviews and general consensus is that Uncharted 2 didn't do anything new, but it was better than the sum of it's parts.

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uncharted 3 online will destroy gears 3 online, let alone the single player story mode.

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uncharted 3 online will destroy gears 3 online, let alone the single player story mode.

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hahahhaha no. It will be lucky to have 1/4 of the population of gears :D
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Have to agree but thats not to say uc3 will be bad because uc2 was a prettyy good game but for me personally gears 3 seems more my style.
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[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Uncharted is just a poor mans Gears, and always will be.

slarkyslark
+1 Uncharted is a straight rip-off. Uncharted is Gears for 13 year old boys.

What does age have to do with anything?
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"cover is mostly used only to regain health. You rarely shoot from cover. And if you do, you'd end up screwed by someone from a high vantage point, or a stealth kill. It's cumbersome and too slow to detach yourself from cover (especially when a grenade is thrown your way, they blow within 2 seconds!). Too slow to pop out and aim compared to Gears. It's simply more responsive and snappier in Gears 3. Cover in Gears 3 feels like a true component to the game and a necessary mechanic to win a match. Most of the firefights in Uncharted 3 are just chumps standing in front of each other while ADS. Don't believe me? Watch the top plays of the week. Oh, and the detestable melee system. It's almost like Halo (except Reach's melee system actually works). People ignore cover, run up to one another shooting from the hip, followed by a gun butt (which has a laughable, goofy animation to begin with). The lunging is sometimes as bad as COD."

So much truth in this portion of your post that noone itt has even attempted to argue otherwise,:lol:

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="slarkyslark"] Because everyone is finally noticing how overrated it is.SaltyMeatballs

no, because people doubt that they can reach the quality of the 2nd one without making it feel "used", since the second one done a lot of new things and they doubt uncharted 3 wont be able to surpass that. I really believe uncharted 3 will get an 8.5-9.0 here

What did Uncharted 2 do new? I haven't played it but reviews and general consensus is that Uncharted 2 didn't do anything new, but it was better than the sum of it's parts.

a huge graphical leap from UC1, improved cover and gunplay, platformer, added more puzzles, more weapons, the online, longer, more rewarding single player, improved melee combat, pretty much improved vastly over anything UC1 did and added new things, and not to mention all of the campaign's epic moments, people just dont think UC3 will be able to improve anything that, or not signifficantly enough for a "wow"
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Then I'll make a thread stating why Gears 3 will crush Battlefield 3.

TREAL_Since

You're going to try to compare a single Xbox 360 exclusive TPS to a multiplat FPS while FPSs are a big fad right now...

Well, in that case, I'll make a thread saying why MW3 will own BF3.

:lol: Treal you're outta control.

Did someone pull you off the tower one too many times in the UC3 beta? :P

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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

uncharted 3 online will destroy gears 3 online, let alone the single player story mode.

slarkyslark
hahahhaha no. It will be lucky to have 1/4 of the population of gears :D

ok how is the population of an online game definer of its quality? and why do people always say like "LOL THIS GAME SUCKS ONLY 200K PEOPLE PLAYING ONLINE WHILE THERE ARE 5 MILLIONS IN COD!!" even with 500 players you'd be able to find a game in less than 10 seconds.
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[QUOTE="slarkyslark"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

uncharted 3 online will destroy gears 3 online, let alone the single player story mode.

lightleggy
hahahhaha no. It will be lucky to have 1/4 of the population of gears :D

ok how is the population of an online game definer of its quality? and why do people always say like "LOL THIS GAME SUCKS ONLY 200K PEOPLE PLAYING ONLINE WHILE THERE ARE 5 MILLIONS IN COD!!" even with 500 players you'd be able to find a game in less than 10 seconds.

Metacritic and Gamespot will score it higher than UC. Deal with it.
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I hate having to defend Uncharted and bash Gears, cause I only wish for good games. I hope all you Gears fans enjoy your rubbish, I really do! ;)

I am guessing that since Uncharted 1 and 2 are better than Gears 1 and 2, the same will hold true for the upcoming 3's. Watching the vids of those annoying, muscleheads swearing and saying cheesy annoying things while they are in battle is just boring. Then you get to turn into a tank and zoom to the other side of the room to repeat the same annoying thing :P.

Had to let some hate out, since this is indeed SW ;).

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, because people doubt that they can reach the quality of the 2nd one without making it feel "used", since the second one done a lot of new things and they doubt uncharted 3 wont be able to surpass that. I really believe uncharted 3 will get an 8.5-9.0 herelightleggy

What did Uncharted 2 do new? I haven't played it but reviews and general consensus is that Uncharted 2 didn't do anything new, but it was better than the sum of it's parts.

a huge graphical leap from UC1, improved cover and gunplay, platformer, added more puzzles, more weapons, the online, longer, more rewarding single player, improved melee combat, pretty much improved vastly over anything UC1 did and added new things, and not to mention all of the campaign's epic moments, people just dont think UC3 will be able to improve anything that, or not signifficantly enough for a "wow"

I agree for the most part but the melee system is still broken and puzzles are so easy they basically solve themselves. Everything else is better.
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[QUOTE="slarkyslark"][QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="slarkyslark"] hahahhaha no. It will be lucky to have 1/4 of the population of gears :D

ok how is the population of an online game definer of its quality? and why do people always say like "LOL THIS GAME SUCKS ONLY 200K PEOPLE PLAYING ONLINE WHILE THERE ARE 5 MILLIONS IN COD!!" even with 500 players you'd be able to find a game in less than 10 seconds.

Metacritic and Gamespot will score it higher than UC. Deal with it.

Nice crystal ball,can I have it please?
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] no, because people doubt that they can reach the quality of the 2nd one without making it feel "used", since the second one done a lot of new things and they doubt uncharted 3 wont be able to surpass that. I really believe uncharted 3 will get an 8.5-9.0 herelightleggy

What did Uncharted 2 do new? I haven't played it but reviews and general consensus is that Uncharted 2 didn't do anything new, but it was better than the sum of it's parts.

a huge graphical leap from UC1, improved cover and gunplay, platformer, added more puzzles, more weapons, the online, longer, more rewarding single player, improved melee combat, pretty much improved vastly over anything UC1 did and added new things, and not to mention all of the campaign's epic moments, people just dont think UC3 will be able to improve anything that, or not signifficantly enough for a "wow"

Oh, you mean the improvements from UC1, never mind.