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#1 nVidiaGaMer
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This is a serious question.  Does Gears of War 2 max out the 360s full power?  I'm unsure for now ... what do you guys think?
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#2 Chutebox
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I wouldn't be surprised, it's a pretty slick looking game.
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#3 nervmeister
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This is a serious question.  Does Gears of War 2 max out the 360s full power?  I'm unsure for now ... what do you guys think?nVidiaGaMer
Alan Wake's jacket says "no"! :P
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yeah. its over 9000!
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#5 Krigon
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That was said when Gears 1 came out. It's not about maxing the powers of the system, it's about more efficient coding. We will probably see a better looking game (alan wake) then Gears 2 next year.
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#6 Krigon
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]This is a serious question.  Does Gears of War 2 max out the 360s full power?  I'm unsure for now ... what do you guys think?nervmeister
Alan Wake's jacket says "no"! :P

Even though i just stated that the alan wake will look better on my previous post. The recent alan wake video was the PC version.
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#7 nVidiaGaMer
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One more thing since Gears of War is going to be a trilogy will Gears 3 be on the 360 or the new XBOX?  I would also like to see fully destructable cover this time around  so it'll further add to the challenge of the game.
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#8 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]This is a serious question.  Does Gears of War 2 max out the 360s full power?  I'm unsure for now ... what do you guys think?Krigon
Alan Wake's jacket says "no"! :P

Even though i just stated that the alan wake will look better on my previous post. The recent alan wake video was the PC version.

Never mind. :P
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#9 The_Game21x
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No one here would be able to tell you that unless they worked for Epic.

The thing is, people (mostly fanboys) said Gears of War maxed out the Xbox 360 and, as you can clearly see, Gears of War 2 looks better. So no. I don't think Gears 2 maxed out the 360.

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#10 nVidiaGaMer
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]This is a serious question.  Does Gears of War 2 max out the 360s full power?  I'm unsure for now ... what do you guys think?Krigon
Alan Wake's jacket says "no"! :P

Even though i just stated that the alan wake will look better on my previous post. The recent alan wake video was the PC version.

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

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[QUOTE="Krigon"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Alan Wake's jacket says "no"! :PnVidiaGaMer

Even though i just stated that the alan wake will look better on my previous post. The recent alan wake video was the PC version.

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

It will look much, much better. The demo they ran was on what kind of processor again?
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#12 nVidiaGaMer
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="Krigon"] Even though i just stated that the alan wake will look better on my previous post. The recent alan wake video was the PC version.pyromaniac223

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

It will look much, much better. The demo they ran was on what kind of processor again?

Wrong if the developers aren't lazy it should look the same.  

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#13 Krigon
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[QUOTE="Krigon"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Alan Wake's jacket says "no"! :PnVidiaGaMer

Even though i just stated that the alan wake will look better on my previous post. The recent alan wake video was the PC version.

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

You can't state that because you don't know.

Let's go by other games out there. Fallout 3 looks alot better on the PC version, gears 1 looks alot better on the PC. Mirror's edge has PhysX on the pc making which is one of the reason why it looks significantly better.

 

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#14 Jean_rainier
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gears2 on pc will look better than 360 coz thats how it is with gears 1. depending on ur rig obviously but 360 is a safer bet, and earlier...

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#15 nVidiaGaMer
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="Krigon"] Even though i just stated that the alan wake will look better on my previous post. The recent alan wake video was the PC version.Krigon

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

You can't state that because you don't know.

Let's go by other games out there. Fallout 3 looks alot better on the PC version, gears 1 looks alot better on the PC. Mirror's edge has PhysX on the pc making which is one of the reason why it looks significantly better.

 

Look at Bioshock looked the same on 360 as it did on my PC maxed out.  Now the Alan Wake demo from 2006/2007 ran on Quad Core QX6800 and a Geforce 7900.  7900 is like the PS3 gpu the 360 one is better plus the 360 cpu is no slouch.

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#16 Vaasman
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There's still plenty of optimization that can be done to get minor improvement's in performance and graphics, but I think Gears 2 is pretty close. I think the last few games the 360 squeezes out will look at least as good as KZ2 if not better.
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#17 Couth_
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Gears 2 is a great looking game, but judging by all the pop ins, it would be hard to make a game LOOK better without a hit on performance. Depends on your definition of 'maxing out power'
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#18 nVidiaGaMer
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Gears 2 is a great looking game, but judging by all the pop ins, it would be hard to make a game LOOK better without a hit on performance. Depends on your definition of 'maxing out power'Couth_

I just beat the game and I didn't notice any pop in and there was only minor lag at one point when on the brumak.

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[QUOTE="Krigon"][QUOTE="nervmeister"]Alan Wake's jacket says "no"! :PnVidiaGaMer

Even though i just stated that the alan wake will look better on my previous post. The recent alan wake video was the PC version.

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

The PC version will look much better man:roll:
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#20 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]Gears 2 is a great looking game, but judging by all the pop ins, it would be hard to make a game LOOK better without a hit on performance. Depends on your definition of 'maxing out power'nVidiaGaMer

I just beat the game and I didn't notice any pop in and there was only minor lag at one point when on the brumak.

Are you serious? :? I noticed pop in off of the bat. In the training mission the truck in there looked like play dough for a couple of seconds
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#21 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

 

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

nVidiaGaMer

It will look much, much better. The demo they ran was on what kind of processor again?

Wrong if the developers aren't lazy it should look the same.  

You don't know much about Harddware do you? the 360 can only run gears at 30 FPS with lots of dips when it gets intence. The PC version runs at 60 FPS, runs at a higher res., AA and AF, And overrall textures and effects look much better. and so depending on how alan wake looks so far I am saying the PC version will be ALOT better then the 360

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#22 Janton3
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

 

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

nVidiaGaMer

It will look much, much better. The demo they ran was on what kind of processor again?

Wrong if the developers aren't lazy it should look the same.  

don't you mean if he developers are lazy, they will look the same?

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#23 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]Gears 2 is a great looking game, but judging by all the pop ins, it would be hard to make a game LOOK better without a hit on performance. Depends on your definition of 'maxing out power'Couth_

I just beat the game and I didn't notice any pop in and there was only minor lag at one point when on the brumak.

Are you serious? :? I noticed pop in off of the bat. In the training mission the truck in there looked like play dough for a couple of seconds

There's no way in hell he's serious. Even with the harddrive install I can notice texture popin.
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#24 Janton3
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

 

I just beat the game and I didn't notice any pop in and there was only minor lag at one point when on the brumak.

Vaasman
Are you serious? :? I noticed pop in off of the bat. In the training mission the truck in there looked like play dough for a couple of seconds

There's no way in hell he's serious. Even with the harddrive install I can notice texture popin.

he might be serious, maybe the "fade-in" threw him off.
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#25 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"][QUOTE="Couth_"] Are you serious? :? I noticed pop in off of the bat. In the training mission the truck in there looked like play dough for a couple of secondsJanton3
There's no way in hell he's serious. Even with the harddrive install I can notice texture popin.

he might be serious, maybe the "fade-in" threw him off.

Yeah at first I though it looked cool and thought, maybe that's just a cool effect they did on purpose. Then I came to my senses
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#26 Blue-Sky
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Yes TC, Gears two is maxking outs 3-sixty's POWAH!!
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#27 killab2oo5
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You don't know much about Harddware do you? the 360 can only run gears at 30 FPS with lots of dips when it gets intence. The PC version runs at 60 FPS, runs at a higher res., AA and AF, And overrall textures and effects look much better. and so depending on how alan wake looks so far I am saying the PC version will be ALOT better then the 360JangoWuzHere
Not saying your wrong (I know the PC version of Gears looks better),but the 360 version did not have "lots of dips"...no matter how intense it got. Gears 1 only dipped on the last level if you got on the turret. Gears 2 doesn't dip at all...for me anyways.
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Is it really even possible to max out power on a console.

 

Even when they claim it does, games can still get better. :?

 

Plus maxing it out would be bad, right?  Like causing failures in hardware and such.  

 

So in my mind.... maxing a conole's power = bad/fail.

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#29 killab2oo5
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Is it really even possible to max out power on a console.

 

Even when they claim it does, games can still get better. :?

 

Plus maxing it out would be bad, right?  Like causing failures in hardware and such.  

 

So in my mind.... maxing a conole's power = bad/fail.

verbtex
I'm sure the manufacturer had heat in mind (Excluding the 360) so maxing it out wouldn't hurt it at all. If the hardware is somehow overclocked and you begin to push the hardware then that can be damaging,but I doubt it on stock clocks and cooling.
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#30 lowe0
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For the time being, it's possible. Gears 1 really pushed the 360 right to the edge. That said, now that Epic is finished with Gears 2, expect the improvements to trickle into other UE3.5 titles.
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] You don't know much about Harddware do you? the 360 can only run gears at 30 FPS with lots of dips when it gets intence. The PC version runs at 60 FPS, runs at a higher res., AA and AF, And overrall textures and effects look much better. and so depending on how alan wake looks so far I am saying the PC version will be ALOT better then the 360killab2oo5
Not saying your wrong (I know the PC version of Gears looks better),but the 360 version did not have "lots of dips"...no matter how intense it got. Gears 1 only dipped on the last level if you got on the turret. Gears 2 doesn't dip at all...for me anyways.

When I use the hammer of god in the first gears it always dips a little.
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#33 KSU-Wildcat
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Threads like these are stupid. I remember seeing these threads when the original Gears came out. Neither console will be maxed out, unless it is in their last year. The Wii will never be maxed (nobody will try).
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#34 wooooode
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There will never be a game that truely maxes out a system so I dont get why this is a constant topic.
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#35 PC_X360
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Gears2 only used 65.420% of the xbox 360's power.
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#36 Bebi_vegeta
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Gears2 only used 65.420% of the xbox 360's power.PC_X360

Where do you get theses numbers?

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#37 RyanShazam
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If it did i wouldn't mind. The game simply looks amazing.
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#38 SpinoRaptor24
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We all know that once a console is maxed out it won't be able to make great games anymore.

:roll:

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#39 BudsMcGreen
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This is a serious question.  Does Gears of War 2 max out the 360s full power?  I'm unsure for now ... what do you guys think?nVidiaGaMer
I think a company like Id will probably be closer to maxing out the system with games like RAGE and Doom 4. Id always makes amazing engines for its time.
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well mgs4 maxed out the PS3 power - i mean it's kojima and he had to have the game rendered at sub-HD resolution to maintain a decent framerate. 

i think that considering kojima is most cows god, and they pretty much all love mgs4 - this fact would be irrefutable. especially considering how angry cows get about lazy devs like Valve working with the PS3. I mean, Kojima can't be lazy right? rright?

*puts on goggles to protect from cow brains exploding* 

gears 2 improved on gears 1, so i think if anything it's showing how the 360 has some more left in the tank..  

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We all know that once a console is maxed out it won't be able to make great games anymore.

:roll:

SpinoRaptor24

I think we were talking about graphic wise...

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#42 SpinoRaptor24
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

We all know that once a console is maxed out it won't be able to make great games anymore.

:roll:

Bebi_vegeta

I think we were talking about graphic wise...

You don't need gears graphics to make a great game.

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Not sure, why won't you ask Epic?
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

nVidiaGaMer

It will look much, much better. The demo they ran was on what kind of processor again?

Wrong if the developers aren't lazy it should look the same.  

it is not possible to run cod4 @1680 x 1050 on the 360 and look anywhere near as good as the pc version so how do you expect alan wake to be any different? x360 is less powerful than a 8600gt, the only way for alan wake to look close to the pc version would be to run it in 640 x 480 or less
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#45 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

We all know that once a console is maxed out it won't be able to make great games anymore.

:roll:

SpinoRaptor24

I think we were talking about graphic wise...

You don't need gears graphics to make a great game.

I think you`re in the wrong topic, this is clearly a graphic discussion and nothing to do with greatness of a game.

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#46 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Krigon"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Even then the PC version will not look much better. 

nVidiaGaMer

You can't state that because you don't know.

Let's go by other games out there. Fallout 3 looks alot better on the PC version, gears 1 looks alot better on the PC. Mirror's edge has PhysX on the pc making which is one of the reason why it looks significantly better.

 

Look at Bioshock looked the same on 360 as it did on my PC maxed out.  Now the Alan Wake demo from 2006/2007 ran on Quad Core QX6800 and a Geforce 7900.  7900 is like the PS3 gpu the 360 one is better plus the 360 cpu is no slouch.

wrong ps3 gpu = mostly 7600gt with a bit of 7800 in it, the fact is 7800/7900 series is now seen as the cards for medium settings, by the time alan wake comes out 8800 or better cards will be mainstream and they are over 4x the power of ps3. bioshock doesn't look much better because on the 360 it runs a puny resolutions and there are much better looking games now. a 8600gt can max out bioshock, what does that tell you? alan wake will be like crysis and use the highend hardware to the max which consoles can't match anymore.
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

 

I think we were talking about graphic wise...

Bebi_vegeta

You don't need gears graphics to make a great game.

I think you`re in the wrong topic, this is clearly a graphic discussion and nothing to do with greatness of a game.

TC didn't specify a graphics only discussion.

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#48 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

You don't need gears graphics to make a great game.

SpinoRaptor24

I think you`re in the wrong topic, this is clearly a graphic discussion and nothing to do with greatness of a game.

TC didn't specify a graphics only discussion.

Comon, read title...

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#49 SpinoRaptor24
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

 

I think you`re in the wrong topic, this is clearly a graphic discussion and nothing to do with greatness of a game.

Bebi_vegeta

TC didn't specify a graphics only discussion.

Comon, read title...

Power =/= Graphics only.

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#50 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

TC didn't specify a graphics only discussion.

SpinoRaptor24

Comon, read title...

Power =/= Graphics only.

Oh really? Then please tell me what it means?