Which games give you the most substance and sense of accomplishment. And Im not talking about "difficult" games where they trick you into thinking so by having you die 500 times. For me looking back games like metal gear solid 1, command and conquer, quake 1 and 2, fallout 3 and NV, all make you feel like "wow I just went on an incredible journey". By the time you're done you feel as though you actually won something.
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