Forbes: PS4 Is Truly Next-Gen And Your PC Isn't

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#1 GIXX3R
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(Condensed Version):

You Can't Build A PS4: Why Sony's Next Console Is Truly Next-Gen And Your PC Isn't

The PS4 uses hardware that you simply cantget for your custom gaming PC.

RAM-BO

In the PC set-up, we have 8 gigs of common DDR3 RAM, but Sony has somehow crammed the same amount of GDDR5 RAM into its PS4.

GDDR5 is primarily used in graphics chips. Its not something you see used as system RAM at all.

For instance, the nVidia Titan GPU, which costs $1000 by itself, has just 6GB of GDDR5 RAM, and thats still all reserved for the GPU. Youll be hard-pressed to findany PC with GDDR5 plugged directly into the motherboard rather than sitting on the graphics card. This just isnt how PCs work at the moment, though that will likely change.

GDDR5, while suffering from slightly higher latency, offers a substantial bandwidth boost over DDR3, and given the make-up of the integrated CPU/GPU chip in the PS4 this will translate to a substantial performance boost.

One Chip to rule them all

Next up we have the CPU/GPU configuration.

Again, what Sony has done with the PS4 is something that PC builders simply cannot do yet. PCs come with two separate chips connected over a PCI-E chipset.

The PS4, on the other hand, houses an integrated CPU/GPU custom AMD chipthe Jaguar CPU is not available for purchase yet and the GPU side of the equation is said to be similar to AMD cards running in the $200 price-range. The secret weapon here isnt either the 8-core CPU or the GPU, but rather how the two are paired.

Both the processor and the graphics card are built into the same chip and both tap into that 8GB of DDR5 memory at onceits a unified memory setup as opposed to the system your PC uses, with the CPU utilizing your DDR3 system memory and your GPU harnessing the more robust GDDR5.

What does this mean? Basically it means that the two chips will be able to communicate with one another much faster and more efficiently than in a traditional PC set-up. Combine this with the high-bandwidth GDDR5 memory and the fact that much of the traditional CPU tasks will be offloaded to the GPU, and you have a machine that you simply cannot compare to a modern PC.

The fact is, no matter how you slice or dice it, you cant build a PC with the same specs or performance as the PS4. You could almost certainly build something faster and more powerful, but it will cost you more than the PS4 is likely going to cost.

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People sure are hyping the fvck out of the GDDR5 RAM. I have a feeling I am going to become very sick of hearing about it. Seems like this gen's Cell
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#3 Slow_Show
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Cliff notes version: dude from Forbes doesn't understand what GDDR5 is. 

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#4 Mozuckint
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Cliff notes version: dude from Forbes doesn't understand what GDDR5 is. 

Slow_Show
Pretty much.
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#5 GeForce-
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The hardware may have a cool design, yet it can't run Killzone: Shadow Fall at 60fps.

Result = PC wins.

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#6 percech
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I remember when people said the same bs about the Cell and ultimately, everyone was glad they couldn't get it on their PC.
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#7 tagyhag
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People sure are hyping the fvck out of the GDDR5 RAM. I have a feeling I am going to become very sick of hearing about it. Seems like this gen's CellBPoole96
Yep. More than half the people hyping it don't even KNOW what GDDR5 is. They just know that 5 is a bigger number than 3. If you tried doing something like that to the PC crowd they'd laugh at your face.
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#8 megaspiderweb09
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What in the name of the lord is this nerdy geeky crap i just read?

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#9 GameHog9
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[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

Cliff notes version: dude from Forbes doesn't understand what GDDR5 is. 

Mozuckint

Pretty much.

 

Ditto. This is the cell all over again :lol:

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#10 casharmy
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The hardware may have a cool design, yet it can't run Killzone: Shadow Fall at 60fps.

Result = PC wins.

GeForce-

(bold) this, is something we can't say atm.  all we konw is it "isn't" running...doesn't mean it can't.

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#11 MonsieurX
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*facepalm*
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#12 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Everything about the PS4 can be summed up by just saying "8GB DDR5" it would seem. And a bunch of people talking about it but really don't have a clue. This article is no different, he's either stupid and doesn't know what 8GB DDR5 is or he's trolling for hits, or both. 

Either way when did we start listening to anything Forbes say about gaming? :?

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#13 loosingENDS
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What is new ?

That is why consoles can last 7+ years with 300$ hardware and a 2000$ PC is obsolete after a few months usually

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#14 BPoole96
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What is new ?

That is why consoles can last 7+ years with 300$ hardware and a 2000$ PC is obsolete after a few months usually

loosingENDS
My $5,000 PC was obsolete right when I walked out of Best Buy with it. I threw it in the trash right when I got home.
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#15 Under_Armour
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PS4 will create a monopoly. Nobody will want to game anywhere else.
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#16 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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What is new ?

That is why consoles can last 7+ years with 300$ hardware and a 2000$ PC is obsolete after a few months usually

loosingENDS

Being forced to use the same hardware for 7+ years cos no one will release a new one. that's why.

As if consolites wouldn't splash out on an upgarde for a console if they were available 

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#17 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

What is new ?

That is why consoles can last 7+ years with 300$ hardware and a 2000$ PC is obsolete after a few months usually

seanmcloughlin

Being forced to use the same hardware for 7+ years cos no one will release a new one. that's why.

As if consolites wouldn't splash out on an upgarde for a console if they were available 

They are, it is called PS4 and i will glasly pay for another 8 years of top graphics for that one

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#18 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

What is new ?

That is why consoles can last 7+ years with 300$ hardware and a 2000$ PC is obsolete after a few months usually

loosingENDS

Being forced to use the same hardware for 7+ years cos no one will release a new one. that's why.

As if consolites wouldn't splash out on an upgarde for a console if they were available 

They are, it is called PS4 and i will glasly pay for another 8 years of top graphics for that one

A whole new piece of kit isn't an upgrade, it's a replacement. 

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#19 Evo_nine
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Cliff notes version: dude from Forbes doesn't understand what GDDR5 is. 

Slow_Show
hermit damage control
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heh, onlive, kinect and wiiu all ridiculed in sw until you learn that is what the ps4 is then it's the greatest shyt that ever happened to gaming.

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#21 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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You can buy APUs on PC, AMD has been making them for a while now.
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#22 faizan_faizan
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Enough with this fvcking 8GB GDDR5 RAM.
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#23 Eddie-Vedder
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Love the damage control. If the PS4 costs 500$ and it costs 1000$ to make a PC as powerful as the ps4 it's obvious the PS4 deserves all the praise it can get. 

 

PC's will always have more potential given you have the cash to waste, the point is how good is a console for the money it costs. 

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#24 Xaero_Gravity
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TLHBO!
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People sure are hyping the fvck out of the GDDR5 RAM. I have a feeling I am going to become very sick of hearing about it. Seems like this gen's CellBPoole96

Its just there to serve its function.

To rustle those Hermits jimmies.

Which is funny as hell to see.

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#26 RedCore119
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PC will NEVER be next gen they get viruses,spam,malware,spyware,hacks,etc.
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#27 RedCore119
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Enough with this fvcking 8GB GDDR5 RAM.faizan_faizan
Are you mad that the PS4 is better than PC?
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inb4raginghermitsPete-B

Too late bro.

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#30 milannoir
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Always cute to watch consolites get all excited about technology they don't understand, at the beginning of a gen. They're like teenagers just about to lose their virginity, talking to their elders about how great it is to have sex.

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Another ignorant peasant that doesn't know what he is talking about :cool:
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Enough with this fvcking 8GB GDDR5 RAM.RedCore119
Are you mad that the PS4 is better than PC?

Do you have any idea what you just said?
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#33 lostrib
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Not being able to get the same specs/components, does not mean we can't have the same or better performance

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#34 Riverwolf007
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welcome to the next 5 years of sw where we will discuss.

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ram.

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ram.

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more ram.

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and general ramm.

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#35 faizan_faizan
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Not being able to get the same specs/components, does not mean we can't have the same or better performance

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Article was misleading, Forbes sucks like always just to attract users.
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#36 FireEmblem_Man
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[QUOTE="Slow_Show"]

Cliff notes version: dude from Forbes doesn't understand what GDDR5 is. 

Evo_nine

hermit damage control

Okay, so what is GDDR5? I know what it is, do you?

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#37 Xaero_Gravity
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welcome to the next 5 years of sw where we will discuss.

th?id=H.4559259024949536&pid=15.1

ram.

th?id=H.4507006464032880&pid=15.1

ram.

th?id=H.4889615025767073&pid=15.1

more ram.

th?id=H.4541645362758598&pid=15.1

and general ramm.

Riverwolf007
:lol:
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#38 NEWMAHAY
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What is new ?

That is why consoles can last 7+ years with 300$ hardware and a 2000$ PC is obsolete after a few months usually

loosingENDS
there is the loosingends we know and love
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#39 raskullibur
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Always cute to watch consolites get all excited about technology they don't understand, at the beginning of a gen. They're like teenagers just about to lose their virginity, talking to their elders about how great it is to have sex.

milannoir
whats wrong with being excited with new technologies?
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#40 lunar1122
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buy 25 pc games, and buy 25 console games..       See whos laughing at the end of the day.

 

Buying a console is like taking out a loan to buy that brand new car, you might be driving it immediately!, but your gonna be paying more than what it should cost in the long run.

 

Pc games are cheaper, pc games go on sale faster.    PC doesnt compete with consoles, pc is master race and in a league of its own. 

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#41 Krelian-co
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i loled, what kind of ignorant wrote that article?

Also you can't have the component of ps3 either (dem cells) yet does it matter? pc always will blow console specs out of th water.

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PS4 will create a monopoly. Nobody will want to game anywhere else.Under_Armour
 lol  unless your ps4 is different then the one being shown off  --- it most certainly will not have

  1. mariokart 8
  2. project cars
  3. zombi  u
  4. super mario 3d(working title) 
  5. nsmbu/w nsml-later this year
  6. yoshiland
  7. nintendoland
  8. wii party u
  9. zelda hd
  10. zelda windwaker hd
  11. project 101
  12. bayonetta 2
  13. the best version of nfs most wanted on consoles
  14. sing party
  15. xenoblade 2
  16. fire eblem x
  17. pokemon 
  18.  currently resident evil revelations  -unless ps4 has that announced ill put a * next to this one theres a reason to go to the wiiu at least, not saying ps4 wont be good , but it wont have a monopoly, that is impossible,    so with all this said  ,   im sure people know if they want nintendo ips and hopfully  a 2nd set of third party titles- like wii had,     they would get wiiu along side ps4 ,  im not to certain about xbox 3   

and lol @ forbes --next gen consoles will be obsolete when pc upgrades point is , stop hyping graphics to be the end all of games every real gamer knows the gameplay is the most important role in any game   a bad game will always be bad no matter what you do to the graphics 

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#43 IgGy621985
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Those articles are so predictable and shallow that any kind of relevance regarding the PC gaming doomsday is just ridiculous.

I remember reading the exact same articles when PS3/360 got launched. I mean, for f*** sake people, give us at least some originality.

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#44 vaderhater
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 Really ignorant fanboys can work anywhere.

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#45 Ly_the_Fairy
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Back in 2006 I couldn't build a custom PC with "teh cell" in it either.

That didn't really mean anything though.

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#46 glez13
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Everything about the PS4 can be summed up by just saying "8GB DDR5" it would seem. And a bunch of people talking about it but really don't have a clue. This article is no different, he's either stupid and doesn't know what 8GB DDR5 is or he's trolling for hits, or both. 

Either way when did we start listening to anything Forbes say about gaming? :?

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You're missing your G's bro.

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HAHAHAHAHA best laugh I've had all week.

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#48 the_bi99man
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I thought people had to have some degree of understanding of what they're writing about, to be writing for a big-name magazine. Apparently not.

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#49 Chris_Williams
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People sure are hyping the fvck out of the GDDR5 RAM. I have a feeling I am going to become very sick of hearing about it. Seems like this gen's CellBPoole96
If you can't handle the Quad, get out of the kitchen
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#50 Fizzman
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Someone use the Jennifer Lawrence "Yeah OK" gif.

My computer annhilates the PS4. I havent gamed at 1080p since ummmm a long time ago.