Fire Emblem: Fates Will Allow Gay Marriage and Relationships

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Nintendo's new Fire Emblem will introduce same-sex marriage to the strategy role-playing game series, Nintendo confirmed to Polygon today.

"We can confirm that Fire Emblem Fates for Nintendo 3DS, which launches in Japan on June 25, 2015, and is coming to the U.S. and Europe in 2016, includes the possibility for a same-sex marriage to take place between the main character created by the gamer and another character in the game," Nintendo said in a statement.

"We believe that our gameplay experiences should reflect the diversity of the communities in which we operate and, at the same time, we will always design the game specifications of each title by considering a variety of factors, such as the game's scenario and the nature of the game play," Nintendo said. "In the end of course, the game should be fun to play. We feel that Fire Emblem Fates is indeed enjoyable to play and we hope fans like the game."

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Good job, Nintendo. An all around good step I don't think anybody will be able to criticize.

EDIT: It will be a little complicated. Of course. It wouldn't be Nintendo if it wasn't.

"Fire Emblem Fates comes in two different versions, called the Conquest and Birthright editions," Nintendo said. "In the Conquest edition of the game, there is a male character that the game's player may have his/her male main character marry after they bond in battle. Similarly, the Birthright edition features a female character that a female main character may marry after bonding in battle. Both of the aforementioned characters can be encountered in the third edition of the game."

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@charizard1605 said:

An all around good step I don't think anybody will be able to criticize.

Oh don't worry the Internet will find a way.

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@charizard1605 said:

SOURCE

I don't think anybody will be able to criticize.

You must be new to the video game community. :P

But seriously, props to Nintendo.

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Probably after the whole BS going around Tamodochi (sp?) Life.

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@nintendoboy16 said:

Probably after the whole BS going around Tamodochi (sp?) Life.

Yes, they did say then they would allow for homosexuality in future games.

So, looks like they followed through on that.

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@charizard1605 said:

I don't think anybody will be able to criticize.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Good one

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Good, count me in.

**** homophobes, y'all can suck it.

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#8  Edited By deactivated-5cf3bfcedc29b
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The only thing I have against homosexuality in video games. Is when it is the only way to get 100% of the games achievements/trophies. FU Bioware, what percentage of people would be willing to start another charcter just for that? Anyways, good job Nintendo.

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Good but what about those who reproduce asexually?..... 7.5.

What will polygon think of next.

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Good to hear, slightly off topic Is Fates still be split into two versions for the western release?

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#11  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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Flaming emblem.

Chill out, I support this. I'm sure they'll handle gay relationships in a better way than Bioware.

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I will pass then. They can keep their propaganda away from me.

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Good I guess...I couldn't care less, but good for the people that want it.

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Cool, lesbians, fighting, what more could one want?

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@k--m--k said:

I will pass then. They can keep their propaganda away from me.

Oh look, someone's overreacting about gay people again! You must believe in some other fallacies too huh? Like if they don't get away from you soon then you'll become gay yourself.

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#16  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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Will they be able to adopt kids? I wonder how many children we will get this time.

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#17 k--m--k
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@CountBleck12: you the one who is overreacting to what I said.

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@CountBleck12: you the one who is overreacting to what I said.

Wrong, I'm just laughing at you.

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@Bardock47 said:

Good to hear, slightly off topic Is Fates still be split into two versions for the western release?

... it's in the OP

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Cool, will it actually be a fire emblem that Illmatic and Techno can actually justify when they gas it up? That's the bigger question.

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#21  Edited By freedomfreak
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What's with these different versions?

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What's with these different versions?

Two sides of the same story- each version tells a story of the different side in the war between two factions. After Chapter 3, the campaigns apparently diverge and provide a completely separate story. Mechanically, Conquest is harder and for vets, and Birthright is more accommodating of newcomers, or people who only played with permadeath off.

Of course, it also helps Nintendo earn roughly twice the money...

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@freedomfreak said:

What's with these different versions?

Intelligent Systems is oblivious to decades of actual rpgs doing the branching storyline thing, and felt the only way they could do it with Fire Emblem was to Pokemon/ZeldaOracleGames it.

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@charizard1605 said:

Two sides of the same story- each version tells a story of the different side in the war between two factions. After Chapter 3, the campaigns apparently diverge and provide a completely separate story. Mechanically, Conquest is harder and for vets, and Birthright is more accommodating of newcomers, or people who only played with permadeath off.

Of course, it also helps Nintendo earn roughly twice the money...

Wait... They charge money for both those versions? What's wrong with having branching paths in one game? Other games have done it before.

@jg4xchamp said:

Intelligent Systems is oblivious to decades of actual rpgs doing the branching storyline thing, and felt the only way they could do it with Fire Emblem was to Pokemon/ZeldaOracleGames it.

Exactly. This is some shit.

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@freedomfreak: Codename STEAM was a bomba, so they needed to recoup costs somehow.

Man, I don't know. I'm very pissed about it too.

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@freedomfreak said:
@charizard1605 said:

Two sides of the same story- each version tells a story of the different side in the war between two factions. After Chapter 3, the campaigns apparently diverge and provide a completely separate story. Mechanically, Conquest is harder and for vets, and Birthright is more accommodating of newcomers, or people who only played with permadeath off.

Of course, it also helps Nintendo earn roughly twice the money...

Wait... They charge money for both those versions? What's wrong with having branching paths in one game? Other games have done it before.

But then that way they wouldn't make so much money if they didn't.

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I'm not familiar with the franchise, but looking at the characters...

SJWs will still find a way to lash out at the game regardless. Main character is a male! Main character is white! Rabble, rabble, rabble.

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@charizard1605 said:

Codename STEAM was a bomba, so they needed to recoup costs somehow.

Man, I don't know. I'm very pissed about it too.

I totally forgot about that game.

@CountBleck12 said:

But then that way they wouldn't make so much money if they didn't.

I hope more games do this then. Better for developers. Just split them at some point, and justify your pricing like that.

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I'm not familiar with the franchise, but looking at the characters...

SJWs will still find a way to lash out at the game regardless. Main character is a male! Main character is white! Rabble, rabble, rabble.

Main character is entirely customizable. You can make the main character a black gay female if you want to.

@freedomfreak said:

I totally forgot about that game.

See? Intelligent Systems validated.

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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I'm not familiar with the franchise, but looking at the characters...

SJWs will still find a way to lash out at the game regardless. Main character is a male! Main character is white! Rabble, rabble, rabble.

Then I'll laugh and maybe mock them if prompted, I'll be ready.

Seriously these people suck, they would just flag anything no matter how valid it may be.

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Wait, so Nintendo's pulling a pokemon with fire emblem now? The different versions I mean.

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@charizard1605 said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I'm not familiar with the franchise, but looking at the characters...

SJWs will still find a way to lash out at the game regardless. Main character is a male! Main character is white! Rabble, rabble, rabble.

Main character is entirely customizable. You can make the main character a black gay female if you want to.

See? Intelligent Systems validated.

Oh, gotcha. I'm sure they'll find a way regardless. I'll wait for the good folks at neogaf to bring up any lack of diversity.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@freedomfreak said:

What's with these different versions?

Intelligent Systems is oblivious to decades of actual rpgs doing the branching storyline thing, and felt the only way they could do it with Fire Emblem was to Pokemon/ZeldaOracleGames it.

Yea I remember reading about this and it really makes no freaking sense.

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Why the bloody hell are there 3 (THREE!!) versions of this game? Why? What could possibly justify that decision besides "we know our fans will buy them all anyway"?

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lmfao

i liked the system where u could have combined stats kids though.

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Great to see. Props Nintendo, it's a step in the right direction.

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#37  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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Cool.

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

SJWs will still find a way to lash out at the game regardless. Main character is a male! Main character is white! Rabble, rabble, rabble.

Yep. They can pick anything and take it way out of context.

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@Aljosa23 said:
@charizard1605 said:

SOURCE

I don't think anybody will be able to criticize.

You must be new to the video game community. :P

Seriously. The gaming community is not exactly the most tolerant.

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@freedomfreak said:

What's with these different versions?

It's an ingenious way to make fans buy the game twice.

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That's good I guess. Only to shut up the people who think all games that doesn't have this are against homosexuality.

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#41 Bardock47
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@charizard1605: Whoops, must've skipped over the last bit though I think you added that last bit after I posted, regardless what's that about a third edition? Are they gonna pokemon it up, put out two games, wait a year, then release the super duper edition?

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Why does this have to be in a video game, why don't they just leave things like this out, what do I care if a character is gay or bi or straight, this does nothing to enhance the gameplay whatsoever, only thing this dose is allow people to Criticize and show hate. This is like saying nathen drake or master chief will be gay in the next game, what do I care, how does that enhance gameplay. I really don't like when a characters sexual preference is determined for us.

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They sealed their fate on that one.

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@CountBleck12: everyone has different opinions and beliefs , people don't have to agree with same sex marriages, or have to agree with two guys getting busy. In fact most of the world doesn't agree with same sex activities, so just because you see a lot of "oh good job for including this" doesn't mean it's what the majority of people think. Let him think how he wants no need to start pointing him out.

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@06 said:

@CountBleck12: everyone has different opinions and beliefs , people don't have to agree with same sex marriages, or have to agree with two guys getting busy. In fact most of the world doesn't agree with same sex activities, so just because you see a lot of "oh good job for including this" doesn't mean it's what the majority of people think. Let him think how he wants no need to start pointing him out.

You have the right to believe what you want and I have the right to call you out on your bullshit opinion.

Simple as that. You don't have to accept their lifestyles but at least have the courtesy to tolerate it.

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#46  Edited By Pariah-
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@CountBleck12 said:
@06 said:

@CountBleck12: everyone has different opinions and beliefs , people don't have to agree with same sex marriages, or have to agree with two guys getting busy. In fact most of the world doesn't agree with same sex activities, so just because you see a lot of "oh good job for including this" doesn't mean it's what the majority of people think. Let him think how he wants no need to start pointing him out.

You have the right to believe what you want and I have the right to call you out on your bullshit opinion.

Simple as that. You don't have to accept their lifestyles but at least have the courtesy to tolerate it.

Tolerance is all well and fine until you conflate it with acceptance--which is a common trend among people who want to carry water for the homosexual sub-cultures.

For instance, if I said that this game should be boycotted for turning gaming into a flagrant propaganda platform and that the producers should be punished by the market for insinuating certain views (upon the audience to which it caters) that reflect a fictional embracing of homosexuality--by the larger culture--as a value system, then I'd probably be referred to as an intolerant "homophobe" even though I haven't really [i]done[/i] anything against homosexuals or the producers beyond simply not buying their wares.

Thusfar, homosexuals--or at least the media outlets that represent them--have proven to be the most intolerant people I've ever encountered. More often than not, I'm called "intolerant" for merely criticizing homosexual behavior and same-sex marriage. Clearly, the only way I could possibly avoid the title is to agree with everything homosexual activists (demand) say.

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@k--m--k: Why? Afraid you'll play it, watch a character bond, then you will feel freaky enough to marry them, and it will "change" you? Keep that propaganda away! You might like it too much! You doth protest too much! LOL

@CountBleck12 said:
@k--m--k said:

@CountBleck12: you the one who is overreacting to what I said.

Wrong, I'm just laughing at you.

Me too.

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#48  Edited By JangoWuzHere
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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I'm not familiar with the franchise, but looking at the characters...

SJWs will still find a way to lash out at the game regardless. Main character is a male! Main character is white! Rabble, rabble, rabble.

Well, didn't take long for the term "SJWs" to enter this discussion

and from a moderator no less.

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I hope Persona 5 allows this.

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#50  Edited By Pariah-
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@JangoWuzHere said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I'm not familiar with the franchise, but looking at the characters...

SJWs will still find a way to lash out at the game regardless. Main character is a male! Main character is white! Rabble, rabble, rabble.

Well, didn't take long for the term "SJWs" to enter this discussion

and from a moderator no less.

It's a testament to the idiocy of the Social Justice Warrior mindset that the acronym/phrase is so eclectic and far-reaching.

@DocSanchez said:

@k--m--k: Why? Afraid you'll play it, watch a character bond, then you will feel freaky enough to marry them, and it will "change" you? Keep that propaganda away! You might like it too much! You doth protest too much! LOL

@CountBleck12 said:
@k--m--k said:

@CountBleck12: you the one who is overreacting to what I said.

Wrong, I'm just laughing at you.

Me too.

I realize it's a common approach to simply patronize and disparage the views of people you disagree with using the populist approach (see also: "born that way", "marriage is a right"), but despite the views of most proponents of identity politics, not everyone agrees that attraction is dictated by an abstract feeling or an unaccountable gene--or with the idea that taxpayer dollars should be invested into marriages that don't offer any growth investments. As such, I wouldn't allow my children to be exposed to this kind of propaganda, personally. I wouldn't want the ideals of identity politics to rub off on their impressionable minds--nor would I want to support the organization that's pushing those ideals.