Fallout 3 @ GS: PC/360 9.0; PS3 - 8.5 (KEEP IT HERE OR FACE SUSPENSION)

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#1 subrosian
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GameSpot Fallout Launch Area | Fallout 3 Promo Site | Bethesda Homepage

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The Atmosphere of Fallout

Fallout 1 Intro Video | Fallout 2 Tanker Video | Fallout 3 Teaser

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Fallout 3 Collector's Edition & Strategy Guide

Pictures behind the cut.
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Official GS Scores

PC & 360 - 9.0

PS3 - 8.5

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#2 Giancar
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first!

Edit: is there a review embargo or what?

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god i can't wait for this game.
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#5 Spartan070
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I love Oblivion but I'm having trouble getting hyped for this. Even though I have it preordered.

I think the lack of "mythology" or mystique is troubling for me, or maybe I'm just not aware of the world in Fallout 3. After all I neverplayed the first two.

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#6 Giancar
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I love Oblivion but I'm having trouble getting hyped for this. Even though I have it preordered.

I think the lack of "mythology" or mystique is troubling for me, or maybe I'm just not aware of the world in Fallout 3. After all I neverplayed the first two.

Spartan070

The only thing that it is concerning me is the lack of "humor"

I don't remember where I read that, but that was one of the pillars of the FO franchise :?

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#7 BioShockOwnz
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I'm calling a 6.5/10. Flopout 3.
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#8 agentfred
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I love Oblivion but I'm having trouble getting hyped for this. Even though I have it preordered.

I think the lack of "mythology" or mystique is troubling for me, or maybe I'm just not aware of the world in Fallout 3. After all I neverplayed the first two.

Spartan070

Well, go ahead and read up. :)

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_world

Anyway, I'm not excited for FO3, because I've played enough Oblivion already.

(Please don't get too mad :P)

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Review goes up Tuesday morning. Kevin-V is doing it.
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#10 lantus
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first!

Edit: is there a review embargo or what?

Giancar

Embargo is up until 12:01 Tuesday. :(

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Review goes up Tuesday morning. Kevin-V is doing it.rockguy92

How do you know?

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#12 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]

first!

Edit: is there a review embargo or what?

lantus

Embargo is up until 12:01 Tuesday. :(

seriously? so one more day :(

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#13 jasonheyman
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I don't see the big deal with this game?! I mean what the big deal with a slow motion close up view of blowing someones head off??:shock:
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Ah, a fresh thread. A clean start. :D

I'm really uncertain about this game. There is stuff that looks good, but there's stuff that looks bad. Last time I saw the NPCs in this game, they looked dead (eh, maybe that's supposed to fit with the world, I dont' know:P )

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Review goes up Tuesday morning. Kevin-V is doing it.rockguy92

Oops, if that's the case, 9.0/10 confirmed!

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[QUOTE="rockguy92"]Review goes up Tuesday morning. Kevin-V is doing it.sammyjenkis898

How do you know?

Probably his blog?

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#17 Giancar
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I don't see the big deal with this game?! I mean what the big deal with a slow motion close up view of blowing someones head off??:shock:jasonheyman

well it is a VERY big deal for FO fans, like me

Hopefully it doesn't dissapoint, or I will bomb Bethesda HQ :evil:

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#18 Mordred19
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Woah, the release date snuck up on me. :shock: It comes out Tuesday? Jeez, I wish there was a rental place in this town.
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="rockguy92"]Review goes up Tuesday morning. Kevin-V is doing it.lantus

How do you know?

Probably his blog?

That's a good clue.

:P

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#20 PBSnipes
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Wait, so OXM (who just so happened to give Fallout 3 a perfect score) have the exclusive review rights right up to the launch date? I'm calling shenanigans.
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#21 rockguy92
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Here.

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[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]I don't see the big deal with this game?! I mean what the big deal with a slow motion close up view of blowing someones head off??:shock:Giancar

well it is a VERY big deal for FO fans, like me

Hopefully it doesn't dissapoint, or I will bomb Bethesda HQ :evil:

The only thing that sounded decent to me was the fact you build weapons from parts you find around the world. I don't know though it is just going to be a rental for me at first. If I like it after that I'll get it. But the over all appeal of the game isn't doing it for me. But I wasnt that big on Oblivion either....

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Prior to launch there are restrictions on what can be shown, and what information can be disclosed. In order to get their review copies, review sites sign a NDA, meaning that any review or information you get prior to launch from review sites is limited by Bethesda.

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I don't know what GameSpot's agreement with Bethesda is, however Kevin-V is doing the review and expecting to have it up on Tuesday. The first Fallout 3 launch is at 12:01am EDT, which translates to 9:01pm PDT. Kevin-V will have to get his review out prior to that to make launch.

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#24 Mordred19
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What is the status of that cinematic combat slo-mo effect? Can it be turned off?
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What is the status of that cinematic combat slo-mo effect? Can it be turned off?Mordred19

It doesn't have to be used, but the way the game plays, it's almost impossible not to use them both together. At least, that's what I've heard.

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What is the status of that cinematic combat slo-mo effect? Can it be turned off?Mordred19
I was wondering the same thing.

Also, you can just randomly pause combat, highlight a vulnerable part of the enemy then attack that part with extreme precision at will, any time you want? At least Mass Effect and KOTOR used the d20 system tokeep you in check.

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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]What is the status of that cinematic combat slo-mo effect? Can it be turned off?Spartan070

I was wondering the same thing.

Also, you can just randomly pause combat, highlight a vulnerable part of the enemy the attack tat part with extreme precision at will, any time you want? At least Mass Effect and KOTOR used the d20 system tokeep you in check.

You have a limited number of action points for attacks using the VATS combat. Those action points replenish when you are not paused.

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#28 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]What is the status of that cinematic combat slo-mo effect? Can it be turned off?Mordred19

I was wondering the same thing.

Also, you can just randomly pause combat, highlight a vulnerable part of the enemy the attack tat part with extreme precision at will, any time you want? At least Mass Effect and KOTOR used the d20 system tokeep you in check.

You have a limited number of action points for attacks using the VATS combat. Those action points replenish when you are not paused.

Ah, well that's a good thing.
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]What is the status of that cinematic combat slo-mo effect? Can it be turned off?Spartan070

I was wondering the same thing.

Also, you can just randomly pause combat, highlight a vulnerable part of the enemy the attack tat part with extreme precision at will, any time you want? At least Mass Effect and KOTOR used the d20 system tokeep you in check.

I don't believe so, it seems to be either VATS or real-time targeting. When you come out of VATS (as was shown in the wastelands preview footage ) it doesn't appear that you are suddenly targeting the highlighted part and able to rapid-fire on it or such.

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I also don't believe they'll allow you to automatically "make a shot" simply because you can aim it in real time. I imagine there will be a miss percentage applied to difficult shots (such as shooting a gun out of someone's hand ) regardless of whether you use real-time or VATS.

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However given design flaws in Oblivion, and the scope of the game, I don't imagine it will be free of exploitable skills, equipment, or actions.

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#30 PBSnipes
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Prior to launch there are restrictions on what can be shown, and what information can be disclosed. In order to get their review copies, review sites sign a NDA, meaning that any review or information you get prior to launch from review sites is limited by Bethesda.

subrosian
Right, but there's still usually a handful of reviews available from sources like "Randommag UK" and "scandinaviangaming.com" prior to the release date. But assuming gamerankings is up to date, the only publicly available review for Fallout 3, regardless of platform, is the OXM review. I hate to sound like a tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist, but something stinks.
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I'm assuming there is a option for 3rd person and 1st person thruout the game, right???

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Personally I'm not really interested in this game. I hated Oblivion and I heard this game plays pretty much the same way so... yeah.
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I'm assuming there is a option for 3rd person and 1st person thruout the game, right???

mentzer

yes.

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Personally I'm not really interested in this game. I hated Oblivion and I heard this game plays pretty much the same way so... yeah.carljohnson3456
My exact thoughts on the game....all though the dudes at GT said that it might be enjoyable by people who didn't like oblivion....which has me atleast considering it.
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#36 TheOwnerOner
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Personally I'm not really interested in this game. I hated Oblivion and I heard this game plays pretty much the same way so... yeah.carljohnson3456

The game is totally different.

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I'm a fan of Fallout 1 and 2, but I don't know what to expect from this game. The collectors edition is pretty sweet though.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Personally I'm not really interested in this game. I hated Oblivion and I heard this game plays pretty much the same way so... yeah.TheOwnerOner

The game is totally different.

But I heard it plays alot like Oblivion... so I'm sure it's not "totally" different. I think I might have read that right here on Gamespot in one of the previews.

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The world looks great, it's not following the canon though, its combat looks broken and boring and RPG features from what I've seen are mediocre. Seriously this game looks good to follow whatever story they put in it and explore the world. I don't see the combat or RPG features being anything to write home about. Infact they look worse than most games.
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I'm a fan of Fallout 1 and 2, but I don't know what to expect from this game. The collectors edition is pretty sweet though.

istreakforfood

Wow, that stuff is sweet. I'll be honest, the E3 Trailer and stuff did make me want to play the game... but then I kept reading about it's Oblivion similarities and what not...

Who knows, I might give it a rent. Did it get a demo?

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Wow, that stuff is sweet. I'll be honest, the E3 Trailer and stuff did make me want to play the game... but then I kept reading about it's Oblivion similarities and what not...

Who knows, I might give it a rent. Did it get a demo?

carljohnson3456

They said no demo. =/

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#43 Espada12
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Personally I'm not really interested in this game. I hated Oblivion and I heard this game plays pretty much the same way so... yeah.TheOwnerOner

The game is totally different.

But I heard it plays alot like Oblivion... so I'm sure it's not "totally" different. I think I might have read that right here on Gamespot in one of the previews.

It looks nothing like Oblivion, are you freaking blind?

Watch a gameplay vid of him talking to a NPC and say it looks nothing like oblivion.

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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Personally I'm not really interested in this game. I hated Oblivion and I heard this game plays pretty much the same way so... yeah.TheOwnerOner

The game is totally different.

But I heard it plays alot like Oblivion... so I'm sure it's not "totally" different. I think I might have read that right here on Gamespot in one of the previews.

It looks nothing like Oblivion, are you freaking blind?

I said played like Oblivion, I didnt say LOOKED. So maybe I should ask you the same question...

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#45 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Personally I'm not really interested in this game. I hated Oblivion and I heard this game plays pretty much the same way so... yeah.Espada12

The game is totally different.

But I heard it plays alot like Oblivion... so I'm sure it's not "totally" different. I think I might have read that right here on Gamespot in one of the previews.

It looks nothing like Oblivion, are you freaking blind?

Watch a gameplay vid of him talking to a NPC and say it looks nothing like oblivion.

I have the game infront of my face.

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#46 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Personally I'm not really interested in this game. I hated Oblivion and I heard this game plays pretty much the same way so... yeah.TheOwnerOner

The game is totally different.

But I heard it plays alot like Oblivion... so I'm sure it's not "totally" different. I think I might have read that right here on Gamespot in one of the previews.

It looks nothing like Oblivion, are you freaking blind?

Have you even watched the game being played? I wouldn't say it's nothing like Oblivion..

I hated Oblivion but I am picking this game up.

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#47 Espada12
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I have the game infront of my face.

TheOwnerOner

What you pirate it or something? Actually nvm that's irrelevant. When you interact with an NPC does it not remind you of oblivion?

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#48 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

I have the game infront of my face.

Espada12

What you pirate it or something? Actually nvm that's irrelevant. When you interact with an NPC does it not remind you of oblivion?

Not one time that ive played the game has Oblivion ever crossed my mind.

If you want to nick pick every single detail then maybe the character models are somewhat simular,

yeah, they look very human :roll:

the game is a masterpiece, haters will be owned.

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#49 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

I have the game infront of my face.

TheOwnerOner

What you pirate it or something? Actually nvm that's irrelevant. When you interact with an NPC does it not remind you of oblivion?

Not one time that ive played the game has Oblivion ever crossed my mind.

If you want to nick pick every single detail then maybe the character models are somewhat simular,

yeah, they look very human :roll:

Some have even called it Oblivion with guns. for crying out loud.

"It seems that the Swede reviewer, Joakim Bennet, was a huge fan of the earlier Fallout games, and judged many of the game's elements against its successors. The bottom line seems to be if you were looking for a RPG like the original Fallout games, then you'll be disappointed. But if you are a fan of Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, then you will probably like Fallout 3. This is not much of a big surprise, I suppose."

Or how about this one.

"But that's where the uniqueness ends, and even the uniqueness that is there is constantly tainted for anyone who has played Oblivion for any long stretch of time. Running around the landscape is just the same, it just looks different. The creatures you encounter are the same, they just have different skins on them. The combat system is exactly the same, only you can use action points to pause the action and go into slow-motion combat every once in a while, which is a cool effect, but is in essence just a gimmick. The dialogue system is the same, with a few modifications, like replacing the mini-game that was present in Oblivion with a chance system based on your character's skills and feats."

Sorry, but I'll take their word for it over yours... who has apparently played an "early copy". :roll:

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#50 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

I have the game infront of my face.

TheOwnerOner

What you pirate it or something? Actually nvm that's irrelevant. When you interact with an NPC does it not remind you of oblivion?

Not one time that ive played the game has Oblivion ever crossed my mind.

If you want to nick pick every single detail then maybe the character models are somewhat simular,

yeah, they look very human :roll:

I find that hard to believe..