Edge Reveals more Halo: Reach details [UPDATED: Now with 40% more awesome!]

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Some keynotes:

  • Halo theme is not in.
  • This is not Halo 4.
  • Cut scenes use a handheld camera $tyle
  • New grunt currently nicknamed 'keg grunt'
  • The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled.
  • Voice actors faces will be mo-caped.
  • When performing assassinations old one-hit kill replaced by third person animation - but "there is a good chance that Reach won't feature instant assassinations at all"
  • During playthrough, the player is inside a building and skirmishers speed toward him and he didn't manage to take down a single one.
  • "More immediately apparent though, is an entirely new timbre to the AR. It sounds markedly more powerful than the otherwise satisfying chugging stutter heard in previous games".
  • Bigger environments encouraging exploration - in co-op, the teleport is far less strict. You can be in one area and your buddies in another.
  • Night vision as seen in ODST is in.
  • Motion tracker shows elevation.

Read the synopsis

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And just because I love each and every one of you. :D

http://www.edge-online.com/features/halo-reach-tales-of-the-fallEdge speaks with Marcus Lehto (Creative Director) and Joseph Tung (Executive Producer) and Brian Jarrad(Community Manager) on Halo: Reach

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I love GAF more than a fat man loves candy:

Here is some more info, stolen from gametrailers, so sorry for that.

  • Reach is 70 percent complete.
  • They gutted the old engine and left "no component untouched" when improving it.
  • Now players will look the same throughout multiplayer, coop and singleplayer (and the way they look will be customizable)
  • Hints there will be power drain and grav lift armour abilities..
  • There is a 3d radar and the HUD can now highlight various environmental features and overlay information about them.
  • Night vision returns to Reach (as seen in ODST).
  • On the pause screen it mentions "grades and credits" but Bungie wont discuss them yet. Probably to do with the character customization system.
  • The AR leaves smoke and sparks when it fires. Explosions have been completely redone for Reach. They are apparently, huge, dirty and lingering.
  • Green marine monocle returns. WIN.
  • Bungie were disappointed with the reaction of people to the halo 3 marine, so theyve brought back the flavour of the halo 1 marine.
  • Mongoose return confirmed.
  • Assassinations (by holding down melee) will feature in multiplayer and the instant assassination of past halos may not be featured at all. Bungie is using the Beta to decide how it will feature.
  • Huge landscapes - but you can visit each area. In coop you may see your buddy fighting a long way off in the distance.
  • Teleportation is far less strict.
  • Bungie is bending the Xbox as far as it will bend and really pushing the hardware.
  • Tung says there will be some big surprises in campaign.
  • The game features rain which will leave covered areas dry and vice versa.
  • Elite AI has been improved a lot. They might be doing something like fixing a door and then something may attack them, but once they have dealt with the threat they'll go back to what they were doing before.
  • "Bungie's not fixed on leaving the trusty BR out". The DMR has 3X zoom.
  • Shield recharge not as fast as Halo 3's.
  • Halo Reach's current build has a lot of computer generated audio used a place holders, meaning that the leaked beta menu footage may well be genuine.
  • A few new screenshots in the article, the best being a double page spread epic view of the spartans in a cockpit. There is an artwork of Emile with a grenade launcher.
  • Lehto admits that there was no generational leap on the animation side between combat evolved and ODST, but in Reach they will make them like all look like the trailer (including facial animations).

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They need to reveal if its still sub HD and jaggie.
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They need to reveal if its still sub HD and jaggie.killzowned24
That was cleared up by Bungie already - those screens, the EB Games screens, are from last Thanksgiving.

http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=19384611&postcount=7137

Read the last post in that thread -http://www.gamespot.com/pages/unions/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27160952&union_id=274&msg_id=319293533#319293533

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Those sound like some good details. And in a thread that isn't designed to cause a rocus this time. :P
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]They need to reveal if its still sub HD and jaggie.R3FURBISHED
That was cleared up by Bungie already - those screens, the EB Games screens, are from last Thanksgiving.

really? what did they say and you got a link?
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]They need to reveal if its still sub HD and jaggie.killzowned24
That was cleared up by Bungie already - those screens, the EB Games screens, are from last Thanksgiving.

really? what did they say and you got a link?

Urk on Neogaf (bungie employee)

http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=19384611&postcount=7137

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I mean they hype up all these upgrades but no mention of image quality which was the worst part in halo...why??
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Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

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What has me excited is the over 40 enemies and 20 vehicles on screen at once. With halos already smart A.I this games battles will be epic.
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]They need to reveal if its still sub HD and jaggie.killzowned24
That was cleared up by Bungie already - those screens, the EB Games screens, are from last Thanksgiving.

really? what did they say and you got a link?

Why are you even here? You have no interest in this game :P
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Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

Chutebox

I suggest Eyeglasses or, an even better choice, lasik

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

ArcticWolf77

I suggest Eyeglasses or, an even better choice, lasik

I'm wearing brand new glasses, thanks for the suggestion though.
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Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

Chutebox
I mean they hype up all these upgrades but no mention of image quality which was the worst part in halo...why??killzowned24
The images were nearly 3 months old - they are not even alpha stage of completion...what do you want?
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[QUOTE="ArcticWolf77"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

Chutebox

I suggest Eyeglasses or, an even better choice, lasik

I'm wearing brand new glasses, thanks for the suggestion though.

must be sunglasses

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

R3FURBISHED

I mean they hype up all these upgrades but no mention of image quality which was the worst part in halo...why??killzowned24
The images were nearly 3 months old - they are not even alpha stage of completion...what do you want?

I've seen scans from magazines also. Don't worry, my opinion on a game won't effect your experience at all.

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[QUOTE="ArcticWolf77"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

Chutebox

I suggest Eyeglasses or, an even better choice, lasik

I'm wearing brand new glasses, thanks for the suggestion though.

i agree with u chute...TBH it looks the same as ODST.....
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="ArcticWolf77"]

I suggest Eyeglasses or, an even better choice, lasik

ArcticWolf77

I'm wearing brand new glasses, thanks for the suggestion though.

must be sunglasses

Maybe you should get over other people's opinions? Jeez, people make such a big deal if someone doesn't agree with them.
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so the images are 3 months old? and what u expect a massive overhaul in 3 months? haha
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

R3FURBISHED
I mean they hype up all these upgrades but no mention of image quality which was the worst part in halo...why??killzowned24
The images were nearly 3 months old - they are not even alpha stage of completion...what do you want?

just saying i find it it odd they cant confirm HD and AA.
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] [QUOTE="killzowned24"]I mean they hype up all these upgrades but no mention of image quality which was the worst part in halo...why??Chutebox

The images were nearly 3 months old - they are not even alpha stage of completion...what do you want?

I've seen scans from magazines also. Don't worry, my opinion on a game won't effect your experience at all.

Oh it will. Good job ruining it for him. Better find a way to make it up to him.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

R3FURBISHED
I mean they hype up all these upgrades but no mention of image quality which was the worst part in halo...why??killzowned24
The images were nearly 3 months old - they are not even alpha stage of completion...what do you want?

and what u expect the graphics to be 10 times better? and the game is supposedly already in closed beta....
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  • Motion tracker shows elevation.

R3FURBISHED

For anyone curious about that - this was posted on GAF

Apparently that is showing elevation. Red being above, Green being level to the player, and Blue being below. Also shows Equipment. And that Oonsk Mode is active.

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and what u expect the graphics to be 10 times better? and the game is supposedly already in closed beta....stereointegrity
I expect what I have always expected from a Bungie game - a beautiful and complete game.

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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]and what u expect the graphics to be 10 times better? and the game is supposedly already in closed beta....R3FURBISHED
I expect what I have always expected from a Bungie game - a beautiful and complete game.

so then why are u defending the graphics so much? that really wasnt a direct answer...
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Swing by the fist page ppl, awesomeness will insue!
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I mean they hype up all these upgrades but no mention of image quality which was the worst part in halo...why??killzowned24
lol keep telling your self that, halo 1 looked great, halo 2 even better, and halo 3 even did stuff other games at the time didn't do. but your who you are, even if the game was light years beyond uncharted you'd still find something wrong.
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so the images are 3 months old? and what u expect a massive overhaul in 3 months? hahastereointegrity
No but the game will be released almost a year after the said date of the screens.
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Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

Chutebox
What you mean is, you gotta be a nag.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

SaltyMeatballs
What you mean is, you gotta be a nag.

nag? how is it nagging?
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]and what u expect the graphics to be 10 times better? and the game is supposedly already in closed beta....stereointegrity
I expect what I have always expected from a Bungie game - a beautiful and complete game.

so then why are u defending the graphics so much? that really wasnt a direct answer...

I'm not hyping the graphics, I'm hyping the game: The best Halo game yet - making the previous Halo seem laughable in comparison.

But since graphics mean so much to you:

Lehto admits that there was no generational leap on the animation side between combat evolved and ODST, but in Reach they will make them like all look like the trailer (including facial animations).

Bungie is bending the Xbox as far as it will bend and really pushing the hardware.

They gutted the old engine and left "no component untouched" when improving it.

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:lol: Fanboys are already saying it looks the same as ODST.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Gotta be honest here

"The engine has been 'gutted' and just about every aspect overhauled."

It doesn't look like it was.

stereointegrity
What you mean is, you gotta be a nag.

nag? how is it nagging?

Because I don't agree with them, duh!
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:lol: Fanboys are already saying it looks the same as ODST.

EndorphinMaster

One of the few defenses they have against a sales juggernaut.

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:lol: Fanboys are already saying it looks the same as ODST.

EndorphinMaster
coming from the guy who always says GOW 2.5:lol:
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:lol: Fanboys are already saying it looks the same as ODST.

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The irony in this one... I didn't play ODST, but I think it looks a bit better.
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

:lol: Fanboys are already saying it looks the same as ODST.

stereointegrity
coming from the guy who always says GOW 2.5:lol:

Haha, you beat me to it!
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wait to its not an entirely new engine? It just gutted and upgraded? thats pretty lazy if you ask me

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Another tid-bit: There is now a longer interval between sniper shots. Does this include the Beam Rifle as well as the Sniper Rifle? Good question!
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They need to reveal if its still sub HD and jaggie.killzowned24

I would not care if it were sub HD.

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wait to its not an entirely new engine? It just gutted and upgraded? thats pretty lazy if you ask me

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It is a new engine
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]They need to reveal if its still sub HD and jaggie.Mordred19

I would not care if it were sub HD.

I love how people are dying to put the game down at any cost. Once again Bungie will deliver a very good looking AAAE title to the 360. They just dont fail.

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[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

wait to its not an entirely new engine? It just gutted and upgraded? thats pretty lazy if you ask me

bigboss5ak
It is a new engine

no its the same engine just overhauled....
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"-Huge landscapes - but you can visit each area. In coop you may see your buddy fighting a long way off in the distance. Teleportation is far less strict." Well we can throw it looking better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 out the window.
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

wait to its not an entirely new engine? It just gutted and upgraded? thats pretty lazy if you ask me

stereointegrity

It is a new engine

no its the same engine just overhauled....

Maybe they should ask Naughty Dog for some help :lol:

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]"-Huge landscapes - but you can visit each area. In coop you may see your buddy fighting a long way off in the distance. Teleportation is far less strict." Well we can throw it looking better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 out the window.

I don't think many believed it would look on par with those.
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"] It is a new engineGTSaiyanjin2

no its the same engine just overhauled....

Maybe they should ask Naughty Dog for some help :lol:

Is it really the same engine?
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[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]no its the same engine just overhauled....Chutebox

Maybe they should ask Naughty Dog for some help :lol:

Is it really the same engine?

It looks like it to me

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#48 BlancoBX
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:lol: Fanboys are already saying it looks the same as ODST.

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kinda like you say GOW3 is GOW 2.5 in every GOW thread?
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

Maybe they should ask Naughty Dog for some help :lol:

GTSaiyanjin2

Is it really the same engine?

It looks like it to me

Careful, you're gonna be classified as a cow now.
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#50 tagyhag
Member since 2007 • 15874 Posts
[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]"-Huge landscapes - but you can visit each area. In coop you may see your buddy fighting a long way off in the distance. Teleportation is far less strict." Well we can throw it looking better than Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 out the window.

I don't think many believed it would look on par with those.

All i remember seeing was the Console graphics king title being thrown out when the game was first announced. :P It's all good though, Halo is known for its expansive environments, I rather they keep it that way than make it look better and be extremely restrictive a'la KZ2.