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#1 ionusX
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origins head honcho over at EA is mad.. really mad at valve. steam he claims destroys IP's. he says that lowering prices to extreme limits ( like say todays farcry 2 sale @ $2.50) devalues and destroys IP's. 75% off he claims is the devil even if the IP is f--k old like say NFS: HP2 or nhl 2k6

http://www.develop-online.net/news/41036/E3-2010-Steam-sales-devalue-IP-claims-Origin-boss

personally.. dave

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lol funny pic

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#3 lundy86_4
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It's been shown to drastically drive sales. What's he on about?

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#4 -RocBoys9489-
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Origin is so lame, please EA, just stop making it a hassle to get our favorite games.
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#5 chikenfriedrice
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He is mad at something he tried to mimic? And horribly I might add

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#6 Ross_the_Boss6
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Pretty sure I just bought Mass Effect 3 for $30 on Origin...and that's a fairly new game.

Their whole library was half off -_-

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#7 Ace6301
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You can almost smell his failure wafting off that quote.
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#8 EliteM0nk3y
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Except the price of a game is is mostly up to the publishers. And most games that go that low are generally older games or not very popular.
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#9 SaltyMeatballs
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He is an idiot if he has a problem with old games selling for cheap.

Though Steam can be ridiculosly cheap at times, so cheap people wait for sales even if they want/could buy it, so cheap that people buy games and never end up playing them (if you use Steam, you know what I mean :P).

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#10 -RocBoys9489-
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Except the price of a game is is mostly up to the publishers. And most games that go that low are generally older games or not very popular.EliteM0nk3y
It's pretty scary when guys with this low of a business-IQ get high position jobs in companies like EA
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#11 Renzokucant
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yea..! he jelly
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#12 hoola
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Valve should take over EA and turn them into a profitable company that will go from worst company in the world to second best company in the world.

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#13 Raymundo_Manuel
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It's not Valve who is controlling the prices on Steam; it's the publishers themselves.

I guess EA is blaming the industry for understanding that as price decreases quantity demanded increases. That's like the most basic economic principle.

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#14 Ace6301
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It's not Valve who is controlling the prices on Steam; it's the publishers themselves.

I guess EA is blaming the industry for understanding that as price decreases quantity demanded increases. That's like the most basic economic principle.

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I think they must have the same financial adviser as most Hollywood film companies. I will give him one compliment: He's gotta be the most overly positive man on this planet given projected sales numbers and pricing versus reality.
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#15 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Lol and this is why I'll never use Origin as main DD client over Steam.. One of the reasons anyway.. When the hell are they actually going to bother updating it? It's like they're leaving it to rot.

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#16 sune_Gem
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Problem is, everyone has Steam, so they don't need nor want Origin. When it comes to programs like these, the community makes it better, so it's only an advantage that Steam has many more users.

The only reason I got Origin was because it was required to play Mass Effect 3.

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#17 GamerwillzPS
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They deserve to get screwed. They are the one who throw DLCs all over the place! Screw them.

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#18 quebec946
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lot of people are using origin, because they are forced too

so ea, plz go screw yourself

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#19 LovePotionNo9
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He's whining in defeat. That's kind of sad.
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#20 lightleggy
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Lol origin... You know what they did to me? I cant buy games (or anything, including DLC and such) from origin, because I live in latinamerica and when I access the store, it redirects me to the European store, I cant buy stuff in euros because my virtual credit card doesn't allow me and besides the euro is super expensive here, almost twice as much as the dollar. steam lets me buy my things in dollars, but origin doesn't so I sent an email to origin support, and the guys in response said that they cant do anything to fix the problem, but that they would give me a 15% discount coupon to use with any origin product... So yeah, they gave me a coupon to buy something, to fix my "I cant buy anything" problem. its seriously like buying a car that ended up exploding on its own in 2 weeks and then going to get your money back, just to have the salesman telling you that he cant give you your money back or a new car, but he will give you a free fuel refill...
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#21 crimsonman1245
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I really dont like EA.

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#22 Captain__Tripps
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lot of people are using origin, because they are forced too

so ea, plz go screw yourself

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To be fair, there are lots of games which force you to use Steam as well. Actually Valved used one of the biggest PC games of all time to get steam such a foothold.. (HL2)
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#23 osan0
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success is not going to be handed to you EA....its an open market so you have to fight or face oblivion. valve dont put a gun to publishers and developers heads and demand participation in 75% off sales. thats all up to the publishers/developers. personally i think it can be a great way to introduce new people to an IP they are not familiar with or are not very confident in. for example the batman AA demo was very poor and i didnt buy the game for a long time as a result. however at one stage it was 5 quid on steam and i kept hearing good things. so i took a punt and loved it. bought arkam city and close to full price and will likey buy whatever rocksteady do next at full or close to full price. i am also more inclined to buy DLC i am interested in when its discounted. most DLC is not worth it at its usual price imho. i tend to be more open minded at 10-20 quid than i am at 50-60 and a game i buy at 10 quid could lead me on to buying the next game at full price. better than no sale at all methinks.
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I just bought that Farcry pack because it was on sale, as I would have never payed full price for it. Come to think of it, the only reason I bought Alan Wake off Origin was because it was on sale, which I then had to install through Steam for some reason.

I don't know how wise it is to essentially come out and tell your customers that you will be charging them more than their competitors for the same product.

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#25 Kell_the_Gamer
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EA is probably the most pathetic company in the gaming industry right now; I'm actually starting to miss them being evil and a force to be feared.
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#26 Vesica_Prime
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Go drive another Origin, Bullfrog, Pandemic studio into the ground you f*cking scumbags.

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EA - "We wanted to make insane profit but Steam stopped us :cry:!!!" Steam - " trollface.jpeg"
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EA - "We wanted to make insane profit but Steam stopped us :cry:!!!" Steam - " trollface.jpeg"JohnF111

evil valve company and their insane low prices!!!

quickly, more day one dlc and incomplete games with crappy online and micro transactions, we need more money!

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]EA - "We wanted to make insane profit but Steam stopped us :cry:!!!" Steam - " trollface.jpeg"Krelian-co

evil valve company and their insane low prices!!!

quickly, more day one dlc and incomplete games with crappy online and micro transactions, we need more money!

Just to supplement this thread.

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]EA - "We wanted to make insane profit but Steam stopped us :cry:!!!" Steam - " trollface.jpeg"Krelian-co

evil valve company and their insane low prices!!!

quickly, more day one dlc and incomplete games with crappy online and micro transactions, we need more money!

To be completely fair Valve has done day one "dlc" (Portal 2) and micro transactions. They've even done the whole release a sequel one year after the original game. That said Valve is waaaaaaaaay better toward consumers even then.
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EA is probably the most pathetic company in the gaming industry right now; I'm actually starting to miss them being evil and a force to be feared.Kell_the_Gamer

I would still consider them to be the most evil, but the difference now is they aren't the biggest publisher in the business anymore.

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#32 SPYDER0416
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In short,

"Steam offers great deals for gamers, we don't want to do that because we love money, so we won't do it and we'll just say Steam doing it is a bad thing".

Idiot.

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#33 Timstuff
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See, here's the difference between Valve and EA: Valve uses digital distribution to give people better deals, thus they increase their sales overall. EA wants to use digital distribution so that they can usher in always-on internet-based DRM and high fixed prices that never go down. Steam literally represents everything that's good about digital distribution, and Origin represents everything bad.
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#34 Kell_the_Gamer
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See, here's the difference between Valve and EA: Valve uses digital distribution to give people better deals, thus they increase their sales overall. EA wants to use digital distribution so that they can usher in always-on internet-based DRM and high fixed prices that never go down. Steam literally represents everything that's good about digital distribution, and Origin represents everything bad.Timstuff
Well said.
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#35 ionusX
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See, here's the difference between Valve and EA: Valve uses digital distribution to give people better deals, thus they increase their sales overall. EA wants to use digital distribution so that they can usher in always-on internet-based DRM and high fixed prices that never go down. Steam literally represents everything that's good about digital distribution, and Origin represents everything bad.Timstuff
i dont know where you came from fairy.. but i like your drink. they gotta stop being so jelly and face facts. EA is late to the party as is alot of folks like GMG and gamestop. they arent the marshal in this town we call teh internet. and unless you do something radically different from the norm like GoG does.. your jsut another GFWL with the occassional good deal.

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#36 dj_pulserfan
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He's just asshurt because it made me realize just how much EA games weren't worth.
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#37 LegatoSkyheart
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Devalues? Oh wait you mean making the Game more Affordable so more people can play the game. Okay.

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#38 Moriarity_
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I've said it before but it seems like EA is doing everything in their power to make me not like them and avoid any product/service they produce like the plague.
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I've said it before but it seems like EA is doing everything in their power to make me not like them and avoid any product/service they produce like the plague.Moriarity_
They ARE a plague and I pray for their demise every single night. "B-but what about the jobs?!" Tough sh*t, their demised is something that needs to happen for the greater good. It's companies with practices like EA that make our economy sh*t in the first place. [spoiler] Sorry if I'm coming off as overly dramatic. I don't really hate them that much either, I'm just very hyper right now. :P [/spoiler]

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#40 HaloPimp978
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EA can get over it Steam is the reason I play PC now I love it. EA is nothing but greedy bastards while Valve cares about it's customers with great deals on great games.

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origins head honcho over at EA is mad.. really mad at valve. steam he claims destroys IP's. he says that lowering prices to extreme limits ( like say todays farcry 2 sale @ $2.50) devalues and destroys IP's. 75% off he claims is the devil even if the IP is f--k old like say NFS: HP2 or nhl 2k6

http://www.develop-online.net/news/41036/E3-2010-Steam-sales-devalue-IP-claims-Origin-boss

personally.. dave

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Wow that guy has no pecs at all
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#42 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

origins head honcho over at EA is mad.. really mad at valve. steam he claims destroys IP's. he says that lowering prices to extreme limits ( like say todays farcry 2 sale @ $2.50) devalues and destroys IP's. 75% off he claims is the devil even if the IP is f--k old like say NFS: HP2 or nhl 2k6

http://www.develop-online.net/news/41036/E3-2010-Steam-sales-devalue-IP-claims-Origin-boss

personally.. dave

why_so_jelly.jpg

princeofshapeir

Wow that guy has no pecs at all

what i find wierder is the fact that these chicks think a dude who shop for kelvin klien and wears a kabala bracelet is cool.. or for that matter why this dude let a chick drinking powerade lick him

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#43 Krelian-co
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See, here's the difference between Valve and EA: Valve uses digital distribution to give people better deals, thus they increase their sales overall. EA wants to use digital distribution so that they can usher in always-on internet-based DRM and high fixed prices that never go down. Steam literally represents everything that's good about digital distribution, and Origin represents everything bad.Timstuff

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#44 Miroku32
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He is an idiot if he has a problem with old games selling for cheap.

Though Steam can be ridiculosly cheap at times, so cheap people wait for sales even if they want/could buy it, so cheap that people buy games and never end up playing them (if you use Steam, you know what I mean :P).

SaltyMeatballs
Yeah, I laughed at that part about not playing game. And after seeing today's sale I'm thinking of buying the game yet I know I will not play it for now.
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#45 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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EA had it coming.
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#46 Ingenemployee
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So how long before we have some gamers b****ing about how sales are destroying the gaming industry?

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="ionusX"]

origins head honcho over at EA is mad.. really mad at valve. steam he claims destroys IP's. he says that lowering prices to extreme limits ( like say todays farcry 2 sale @ $2.50) devalues and destroys IP's. 75% off he claims is the devil even if the IP is f--k old like say NFS: HP2 or nhl 2k6

http://www.develop-online.net/news/41036/E3-2010-Steam-sales-devalue-IP-claims-Origin-boss

personally.. dave

why_so_jelly.jpg

ionusX

Wow that guy has no pecs at all

what i find wierder is the fact that these chicks think a dude who shop for kelvin klien and wears a kabala bracelet is cool.. or for that matter why this dude let a chick drinking powerade lick him

You will understand when you get older.
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#48 ShadowMoses900
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Lol you found my facebook pic, that's me. That's what happens when I tell girls how many platinum trophies I have.

You know what EA? Quit blaming someone else for your problems, what the hell did Steam ever do to you? You should follow Steams example instead, stop fvcking over the consumer so much. Stop all this stupid online pass crap and day 1 DLC.

Mabey the reason no one likes Origions is because no one likes you EA, and they are no longer going to put up with your garbage.

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#49 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Wow that guy has no pecs at alldemi0227_basic

what i find wierder is the fact that these chicks think a dude who shop for kelvin klien and wears a kabala bracelet is cool.. or for that matter why this dude let a chick drinking powerade lick him

You will understand when you get older.

how old are you?

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#50 ionusX
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Lol you found my facebook pic, that's me. That's what happens when I tell girls how many platinum trophies I have.

You know what EA? Quit blaming someone else for your problems, what the hell did Steam ever do to you? You should follow Steams example instead, stop fvcking over the consumer so much. Stop all this stupid online pass crap and day 1 DLC.

Mabey the reason no one likes Origions is because no one likes you EA, and they are no longer going to put up with your garbage.

ShadowMoses900

you wish.. ps3 gamers are second only to pc gamers in the foreveralone-o-meter which means at best you got to 2nd base with some chick back in high school.... or thats indeed off your facebook cause you fake who you are in order to abduct women.. (perv)