Do you want Phil to continue to lead Xbox or should MS bring in new leadership?

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Poll Do you want Phil to continue to lead Xbox or should MS bring in new leadership? (71 votes)

Yes, keep Phil! 66%
It's time for someone new! 34%

I think Phil is probably the best leader Xbox has had. He's done some great things for Xbox; GamePass, backwards compatibility, solid console hardware with XSX. I also like that Xbox continues to go to conventions and drum up hype. He also accomplished some major acquisitions though I wasn't really crazy about that. My only real gripe with the guy is that the 1st party still isn't great. Also, they made all these announcements like Fable and Perfect Dark a while ago and they're still in development. It also seems that Xbox is trying to get rid of disc trays with the new XSX refresh which also sucks. Overall, I'm so so on the guy. His big thing has been GamePass and even that has been just ok given that the 1st party is still isn't great. Overall, I say keep Phil for now, he's their best choice at the moment. I don't know who they could replace him. What do you think, SW? Do you want Phil to continue to lead Xbox or should MS bring in new leadership?

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#1  Edited By SecretPolice
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"insert we stand with Uncle Phil meme here" lol :P

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#2 dracula_16  Online
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I don't have a problem with him at all. I say let him keep his job.

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#3 Pedro
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Making Xbox games multi platform was long overdue, so I have no quibble with the man.

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#4  Edited By nintendoboy16
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Someone new!

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#5 jaydan
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I hear Jim Ryan is shopping around for new work!

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#6 KvallyX
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Why remove the best head of gaming from their position? LOL. You are not very good at this Solid.

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#7 R4gn4r0k
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You know my answer

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#8 Last_Lap  Online
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He's got to go. The guy is untrustworthy, he's the type of guy to piss on your back and tell you it's raining.

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#9 KvallyX
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My only real gripe with the guy is that the 1st party still isn't great.

The first party isn't as good as Nintendo's right now, but it's better than the PS first party as of late.

Also, they made all these announcements like Fable and Perfect Dark a while ago and they're still in development.

That's a good thing. We don't want those games until they are ready.

It also seems that Xbox is trying to get rid of disc trays with the new XSX refresh which also sucks.

It does suck that Sony and MS are looking at possibly doing that. Hopefully they change their mind.

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#10  Edited By daredevils2k
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I say he should stay. He’s doing Sony a favor with All the poor xbox sales numbers and stagnant growth of GP, and we can’t forget about the AAA flops like Starfield and Redfall that has released under his watch .

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#11  Edited By KathaarianCode
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I want him to stay because being Microsoft he's probably the best case scenario for the position. He's carefully balancing the traditional gaming market with a growth strategy that aligns with a company of such size, can't say he's been amazing but I won't pretend it's an easy job.

I might be wrong but the idea that some hardcore gamer is going head Xbox and Microsoft into a glorious first place of a tiny slice of market just isn't realistic for a trillion dollar corporation. Phil might be as close as we get.

Edit: Please add "Uncle" just before every Phil mention.

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#12 Saint-George
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the news jim lying is stepping down has had its normal *yes PlayStation news,but what about xbox* reaction 🤣.

Phil has relegated PS to the last place for gaming,oof like a dagger to heart of a 🐄

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#13 iambatman7986
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I like where he has taken xbox. Yes, they could pump games out faster, but they are making aquisitions to bolster their catalogue of games. Game Pass is an amazing deal. I also love buying a game on xbox and the pc version is there and can share save files. I wish Sony would adopt the play anywhere model between PS and PC.

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#14 Chutebox
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He's done one good thing in putting games on PC.

That's it.

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#15  Edited By dabear
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@SolidGame_basic: the people who would want Phil replaced aren't xbox fans.

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#17 KvallyX
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@girlusocrazy said:

No matter who is there, they will pursue the goals of the company and serve the same boss and I am unsure if much would change about the direction and management of Xbox at this point.

It might be more effective to look into other areas such as the internal review team for games that evaluates and gives them feedback, and to check in with head of Microsoft Studios Matt Booty and assess his direction and strategies in a constructive way.

Why doesn't your post count change? WTF?

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#18 hardwenzen
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I want Jim Ryan to join the Xbox team. This will give me so much incredible content that i don't even know what i would do with it.

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#19  Edited By Randy_Lahey
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This guy’s a lying sack of shit who’s been gaslighting his supporters for over a decade. A cult leader who’s bred some of the dumbest fanboys of all time.

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#20  Edited By Saint-George
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@randy_lahey said:

This guy’s a lying sack of shit who’s been gaslighting his supporters for over a decade. A cult leader who’s bred some of the dumbest fanboys of all time.

This is the phil spencer poll,not the jim ryan one,you know jim,who lost you a 100 bucks with his pointless attempt to stop the ABK deal,that the dumbest fanboys of all time got onboard with 🐄😭💵💵💵🤣

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#21 Pedro
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@randy_lahey said:

This guy’s a lying sack of shit who’s been gaslighting his supporters for over a decade. A cult leader who’s bred some of the dumbest fanboys of all time.

When it comes to dumbest, you do it best.😂

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#22 Qui-Gon-Milk
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Good ole Jim was like I’m raising the PSN prices and dipping 😂

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#23 Archangel3371
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I vote to keep him in. He’s a pretty cool guy and an actual gamer. I think he’s been doing a pretty good job and would like to see him continue.

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#24 shellcase86
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It's hard to say. He's made the brand so much better but, as they say, "The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing."

And the main thing here is games. Even he recognizes that they've down a poor job of managing their games. And the buck stops w/ him. Could Xbox do better than Phil? I dunno. The guy has a real passion for the industry, but on the other hand the main measuring stick shows him underperforming.

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#25  Edited By pmanden
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Phil is doing a fine job. Dom Mattrick on the other hand...

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#26 Fedor
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I don't find him to be likeable, but I don't see any reason to remove him.

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#27 SUD123456
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He and Jim Ryan, etc. are just suits, regardless of whether they dress in jeans and leather jackets or not. Other people make the games. Other people design the hardware. Other people propose changes or improvements to the business model.

They just give financial boundaries and approve, or not, other people's ideas. Even then, the financial boundaries are given by the CEO/CFO/Board and the ROI, ROE, DCF...etc. models are produced by junior people, who are easily thrown under the bus.

This is true of all large business, where real hands on leaders that bring their own insights to the forefront are few and far between. And I don't see that in either Phil or Jim. Simply being on stage doesn't mean anything.

Therefore, I don't care one way or the other...unless you can name a potential successor that isn't just another suit.

The good news for you as the reader is this: none of these people are better or smarter than you.

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#28 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@SUD123456 said:

He and Jim Ryan, etc. are just suits, regardless of whether they dress in jeans and leather jackets or not. Other people make the games. Other people design the hardware. Other people propose changes or improvements to the business model.

They just give financial boundaries and approve, or not, other people's ideas. Even then, the financial boundaries are given by the CEO/CFO/Board and the ROI, ROE, DCF...etc. models are produced by junior people, who are easily thrown under the bus.

This is true of all large business, where real hands on leaders that bring their own insights to the forefront are few and far between. And I don't see that in either Phil or Jim. Simply being on stage doesn't mean anything.

Therefore, I don't care one way or the other...unless you can name a potential successor that isn't just another suit.

The good news for you as the reader is this: none of these people are better or smarter than you.

I do think that they don't have as much power as people would think.

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#29 blamix
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Phil saved Xbox. Could've been a lot worse

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#30 ShadyAcshuns
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Phil won.

Jim lost.

Cope.

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#31 loudheadphones
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@blamix said:

Phil saved Xbox. Could've been a lot worse

And it's going to be worse under him

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@dabear: : "the people who would want Phil replaced aren't xbox fans."

Oh really, do tell me how I'm not an Xbox fan?

Also tell me how Phil has helped Xbox gamers.

This should be a good read, you have my full attention.

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#33 ShadyAcshuns
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@last_lap said:

@dabear: : "the people who would want Phil replaced aren't xbox fans."

Oh really, do tell me how I'm not an Xbox fan?

Also tell me how Phil has helped Xbox gamers.

This should be a good read, you have my full attention.

Game Pass. I can play the upcoming Persona 3 Reloaded for $11 while PlayStation fans have to pay $70 to play it on day one. That's just a single example of what Phil did for gamers.

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@shadyacshuns: Gamepass was born out of Phil's inability to compete. Instead of fighting for Xbox he's doing his best to make it irrelevant.

And yes he raised the price of Xbox Gamepass while leaving the PC Gamepass the same price, yeah that's helping out Xbox gamers alright. What else you got?

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#35 ShadyAcshuns
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@last_lap said:

@shadyacshuns: Gamepass was born out of Phil's inability to compete. Instead of fighting for Xbox he's doing his best to make it irrelevant.

And yes he raised the price of Xbox Gamepass while leaving the PC Gamepass the same price, yeah that's helping out Xbox gamers alright. What else you got?

Still cheaper than $70 for consumers. Don't need anything else.

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#36 Last_Lap  Online
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@shadyacshuns: Imagine in 2023 renting games is your biggest selling point for a console.

I mean surely you can name something good Phil has done for Xbox gamers.

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#37 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@shadyacshuns said:
@last_lap said:

@shadyacshuns: Gamepass was born out of Phil's inability to compete. Instead of fighting for Xbox he's doing his best to make it irrelevant.

And yes he raised the price of Xbox Gamepass while leaving the PC Gamepass the same price, yeah that's helping out Xbox gamers alright. What else you got?

Still cheaper than $70 for consumers. Don't need anything else.

How is paying $16.99 a month cheaper? 😂

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#38 ShadyAcshuns
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@shadyacshuns said:
@last_lap said:

@shadyacshuns: Gamepass was born out of Phil's inability to compete. Instead of fighting for Xbox he's doing his best to make it irrelevant.

And yes he raised the price of Xbox Gamepass while leaving the PC Gamepass the same price, yeah that's helping out Xbox gamers alright. What else you got?

Still cheaper than $70 for consumers. Don't need anything else.

How is paying $16.99 a month cheaper? 😂

How many months does it take for you to beat a single game?

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#39 Last_Lap  Online
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@SolidGame_basic: You need to stay out of this conversation. Say why haven't you voiced an opinion in the Jim Ryan thread yet?

Did you love Jimbo?

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@shadyacshuns said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@shadyacshuns said:
@last_lap said:

@shadyacshuns: Gamepass was born out of Phil's inability to compete. Instead of fighting for Xbox he's doing his best to make it irrelevant.

And yes he raised the price of Xbox Gamepass while leaving the PC Gamepass the same price, yeah that's helping out Xbox gamers alright. What else you got?

Still cheaper than $70 for consumers. Don't need anything else.

How is paying $16.99 a month cheaper? 😂

How many months does it take for you to beat a single game?

What if you want to play it whenever you want, as many times as you like? 😎

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#41 SolidGame_basic  Online
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@last_lap said:

@SolidGame_basic: You need to stay out of this conversation. Say why haven't you voiced an opinion in the Jim Ryan thread yet?

Did you love Jimbo?

I said he was boring.. I thought Shawn Layden was boring too. Really enjoyed the Sony from Jack Tretton days.

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#42 dabear
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@last_lap:

Game Pass

Correcting the mistakes of Xbox One

The Bethesda purchase

The Activision-Blizzard purchase

All the 3rd party games launching on game pass

Repairing the relationship with Square

The exclusive game coming from Kojima

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#43  Edited By mrbojangles25
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I honestly don't give a shit. It's sort of a win-win at this point; someone bad comes in, they ruin a brand and a corporation fails and possibly we get something better taking its place. They bring someone good, and an OK thing get's better. They stick with Phil, I keep enjoying Game Pass.

Benefits of gaming on PC; many, many, many options.

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#44  Edited By dabear
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@SolidGame_basic: That $16.99 is for ALL THE GAMES on game pass.

Are you finally admitting you dont have an Xbox?

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#45 ShadyAcshuns
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@shadyacshuns said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

How is paying $16.99 a month cheaper? 😂

How many months does it take for you to beat a single game?

What if you want to play it whenever you want, as many times as you like? 😎

What if what if has nothing to do with the conversation.

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@dabear: Gamepass is all you have to hang your hat on. And is was built from Phil's inability to make Xbox competitive again.

Correcting the mistakes of Xbox One lol. He made 2 different consoles in X & S creating problems for developers. Making one digital only and soon a new X that is digital only too, thus shutting out gamers who own physical media like myself, and yet Phil says he's big on backwards compatibility lol.

Buying 2 devs who's games were coming to Xbox anyway is not so much a plus for Xbox gamers.

Third party games coming to GP ok, well they should, I mean it's a rental store so that should be the norm.

Repairing relations with Square lol, yeah Phil's done a great job at that for Xbox gamers with the already released FF7R & FF16 and upcoming FF7R part 2 all on Xbox...oh wait.

A Kojima game, I don't think I need to respond to that one, well other than with a lol.

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#47  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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hes amazing and has great vision. One thing I disagree with him on is the support for gaming unions. Really, theres no good thing that comes with this. I am all for people getting good pay, and benefits, vacation time, parental benefits, work from home days etc. But unions are terrible, they turn people into lazy pos who just get away with doing the bare minimum.

His support for unions is a turn off, and honestly I don't like that hes not crushing their organizing efforts. This is not something I want on team #xbox. But if sony was doing it, i'd frankly be extatic, jumping with joy.

If not for the AB acquisition and having to look good in front of the regulators, they might not have been so lenient. Very shameful to be honest, and one of the drawbacks of mergers.

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#48 Last_Lap  Online
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

hes amazing and has great vision. One thing I disagree with him on is the support for gaming unions. Really, theres no good thing that comes with this. I am all for people getting good pay, and benefits, vacation time, parental benefits, work from home days etc. But unions are terrible, they turn people into lazy pos who just get away with doing the bare minimum.

His support for unions is a turn off, and honestly I don't like that hes not crushing their organizing efforts. This is not something I want on team #xbox. But if sony was doing it, i'd frankly be extatic, jumping with joy.

If not for the AB acquisition and having to look good in front of the regulators, they might not have been so lenient. Very shameful to be honest, and one of the drawbacks of mergers.

You have some of the funniest post here, the bold is especially funny.

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#49  Edited By Litchie
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I don't care. He would be replaced by some other moron.

Why are we acting like he single-handedly made Game Pass? And BC? And solid hardware? You guys are weird.

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#50  Edited By robert_sparkes
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I don't care who is in charge they all say one thing and do another.