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It's bad for the industry.
I can't think of how many times I've discovered a new developer, or a new game series through used games, borrowing, renting, or even "piracy", that have led me to purchase/support many more future titles from that same developer/series.
Valve can personally thank me for the 145 games I own on Steam (15 of which are Valve's), and the five or so people I helped get into PC gaming who have also supported Valve by buying hundreds of games through Steam all because I did NOT give them money for Half Life when it came out. I did buy the Half Life collection a year or so later when I could afford it, and even bought the PS2 version too.
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Removing used games only prevents people from discovering games.
Ly_the_Fairy
Yep. Most ppl tend to see used games and piracy as a bad thing. Sure it is, if you want to get all moral about it. For the business side of things however its far from a problem, but some devs tend to think otherwise.
If you got pirated games it usually means:
1. You got a game not worth its price.
2. You got a game that's too easy to pirate.
Its a telltale sign that you are not at the right price point. You could say that people pirate because it is free, but I'm almost guaranteed without a doubt that most ppl are noble about it and will buy if its right in price and content. People don't like to break the rules on spite, especially on something that is not so mainstream unlike pirating music and movies.
For used games its almost the same deal. If you remove used games it just means you are alienating users. Not every user just plays used games, they mix it up. The thing is some ppl tend to like used a bit more or are pretty 50/50 especially if they are on a budget. That means that if you deny used games, those users won't buy your system. That then makes it so you lost a potential customer that could have bought a few games new.Â
Piracy means a whole lot of things.
People pirate to demo, backup their games, get their games (that they've already bought) on multiple systems, bypass DRM, and yah of course it does also mean stealing in some cases.
I was 8 years old when Half Life came out, and couldn't afford it, and didn't know any better either. My older brother pirated games every so often, and he put Half Life on our computer.
I couldn't afford it, and yah it was stealing for us to play it, but believe me I'm sure Valve is much happier that we did pirate the game. Had we not played Half Life neither me, or my brother would be as big into PC gaming as we are now, and between us both we have nearly 500 PC games on Steam alone.
This video puts piracy into perspective
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But I think an analogy can be made to used games as well. Not everyone can afford every game that comes out, so many gamers have to resort to renting, borrowing, or trading games in. This means more gamers playing games, and more gamers discovering new games they love which will push them to support future games.
Yeah pretty much. I don't know all the specifics of piracy, but I do know that the general application used on these boards is downright stealing a game. You tended to go more to the gamer themselves in your discussion, and I wholeheartedly agree with your ideas. Morally it may not be right, but sometimes you do it just because its not available to you, and it might as well be free if they won't release it at all anywhere else (happens a ton for region games). Still a bit messy admittedly, but does create potential customers out of ppl. :)
 I was more on the business side of both aspects, but was closer to your assumptions on the used market. Without some sort of experience with games, you tend to not play as much games in general. If you are on a budget, the only way you can do that is used games or steam sales for the most part. Its sound reasoning for gamers as a whole.
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