do the current gen consoles feel outdated?

I guess it has something to do with the hd consoles' unability to run games at 1080p at 60fps and their lack in the exclusive department. Many pc gamers use this argument when comparing consoles with Pc, stating that the current systems are nothing more than crippled pc's, with a few exclusives here and there that are the only reason why someone would choose a console over a gaming rig.

but is there really such a huge difference between a pc multiplat and a console's? I guess there's not, considering that you play console games at a distance and you won't notice the graphical jaggies, while on Pc you usually sit very near the monitor, not to mention the fiddling with game settings in order to play it decently.

so, is the hassle really worth it when the difference are not night and day as someone would think?

Wii: yes,******** yes.

PS3/360: No. Developers are cramming more and more power out of them. They are even comparable to PC visuals.

I'm still impressed by some of the games that have released this gen but the lower budget games or the sloppy ports that the PS3 gets do seem outdated compared to this gen's finer games.

Eh, I don't know if they feel outdated, but they're definitely weak compared to the hardware that is available nowadays. But I guess that happens every generation of consoles.

Then again, my computer isn't the most powerful computer, so my opinion might be different if I had some money to upgrade with.

Graphics are not the only thing outdated on consoles imo. I can not stand being contricted on a console. The PC allows so much freedom when trying to play with a console I just can not stand it. Being confined to 1 controller style when I can us a mouse and a keyboard or any number of controllers on a PC. In my eyes there is no reason to play on a console if you have the funds ( which honestly is no where near as bad as ppl make it) or just lack the knowledge. millerlight89

Wii: yes,******** yes.

PS3/360: No. Developers are cramming more and more power out of them. They are even comparable to PC visuals.

dercoo

No.. just no....don't mistake devs not going the extra mile on PC multiplats with consoles graphics being comparable to PC visuals.

They don't seem outdated to me, but it seems like a lot of PC gamers feel they are. I don't game on a PC , so I really wouldn't know about that aspect of gaming, however I do think they are starting to squeeze a lot more power out of the two HD consoles. They may be dated from a memory stand point, with the 512mb ram, and 256edram, but their custom processors make up for a lot of that. I'm happy with the current state of consoles, and feel there is a big enough library out there to keep me gaming for a while. I will get the next lineup of consoles @ launch, and I hope they are equipped with this gens PC innards, so I can see what all the fuss is about .

I guess it has something to do with the hd consoles' unability to run games at 1080p at 60fps Metroid_Other_M

Have you ever seen MGS4 in 1080p?

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Wii: yes,******** yes.

PS3/360: No. Developers are cramming more and more power out of them. They are even comparable to PC visuals.

Espada12

No.. just no....don't mistake devs not going the extra mile on PC multiplats with consoles graphics being comparable to PC visuals.

Are they compared and debated against PC visuals, yes all the time on this forum.

The HD consoles are closer to PCs then any consoles of past gens.

PC will always be miles ahead, and will always cost heaps more.

The consoles today do feel outdated, Xbox 360 has now been around for 5 years (though they made a slim console) and the PS3 for 3 years. Probably around 2012 they will release a new console, i hear that Apple is makeing a console for the next generation.Mabye Either PS, MS, or Nintendo will die out. If that does happen i will gaurantee you it will be the wii because Xbox has Natal and Sony has the Move which are superior to the Wii.

They're just my thoughts though.

They don't seem outdated to me, but it seems like a lot of PC gamers feel they are. I don't game on a PC , so I really wouldn't know about that aspect of gaming, however I do think they are starting to squeeze a lot more power out of the two HD consoles. They may be dated from a memory stand point, with the 512mb ram, and 256edram, but their custom processors make up for a lot of that. I'm happy with the current state of consoles, and feel there is a big enough library out there to keep me gaming for a while. I will get the next lineup of consoles @ launch, and I hope they are equipped with this gens PC innards, so I can see what all the fuss is about .

godzillavskong

Games still feel next gen to me, so no. While PC gaming at it's prime is more powerful than console gaming by a jump, the MAJORITY of PC gamers don't have a Crysis-Maxing rig, so as a whole PC gaming isn't too far ahead of the game.

They were after Crysis came out...

The best looking console games have to downgrade something to barely reach 720p and 30FPS.

the wii , is the future ,

-obviously true but ya,

i do feel without hit games like rugrats , top gear , timesplitters etc these consoles feel like updated last gen tech which to be honest isnt good !

especally with the hd twins having more of the same ol every day , -you know what i m talkin about , how almost every game on store shelfs is a first person shooter ,

the wii , is the future ,

-obviously true but ya,

i do feel without hit games like rugrats , top gear , timesplitters etc these consoles feel like updated last gen tech which to be honest isnt good !

especally with the hd twins having more of the same ol every day , -you know what i m talkin about , how almost every game on store shelfs is a first person shooter ,

mariokart64fan

Well, considering the best looking games on consoles tend to be linear corridor shooters that even then don't play at 1080p with max settings, and at 60fps? Yes, yes they feel incredibly outdated.

But it's not just the visuals. Even the online on consoles still hasn't caught up to what PC has had for years and years. The consoles don't have near the same amount of features, or capabilities.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Wii: yes,******** yes.

PS3/360: No. Developers are cramming more and more power out of them. They are even comparable to PC visuals.

dercoo

No.. just no....don't mistake devs not going the extra mile on PC multiplats with consoles graphics being comparable to PC visuals.

Are they compared and debated against PC visuals, yes all the time on this forum.

The HD consoles are closer to PCs then any consoles of past gens.

You mean on this forum full of fanboys?

The gap between console and pc is becoming far more noticeable. I'm happy that we're at least getting a new hand held system.

No way. I don't think the 36 or PS3 feel "outdated" at all, that's completely ridiculous lol. They are current gen. So, at lest the way I see it, it would be difficult to consider them or perceive them as such. The pc argument seems irrelevent to me. Mostly because A) I donot play or care about pc so that becomes just my personal opinion. And B ) Today's HD consoles are close to on par PCs. That gap is dwindling extremely fast and I know pc gamers deny it but to me that's a little silly and fanboyish. It's a simple and non-threatening fact.

And now I relly love the Wii. It's great console but i'm torn on this one. Obviously the visual tech on most games is outdated for sure there's no getting around that. But there are games like the Galaxy games and the upcoming Metroid Other M that look fantastic and closer to next gen. And the unique controller to me feels like a next gen experience even with lesser graphics. So that's my two cents.

1080p at 60fps? What kind of PC do you have? :?SparkyProtocol

1080p at 60fps? What kind of PC do you have? :?SparkyProtocol

I mean when the PS3 launched the one of most powerful GPUs on the PC was the Geforce 7800 GTX , and that was not much faster then the GPU in the PS3 so they were fairly even in some regards in that time period. Fast Forward 4 years and we now have GPUs that are literally 8-10 times more powerful then the 7800 GTX. Is it really far fetched to believe that PC gamers have access to powerful hardware without killing their wallet?

1080p at 60fps? What kind of PC do you have? :?SparkyProtocol

Hmmm. Compare the console version of Battlefield Bad Compay 2 to the PC version running at twice the framerate with 8xAA and 16xAF at a higher resolution... The difference is night and day my friend. With that said there are still some console games that do impress me at a technical level. Don't get me wrong, I do love playing games on my console, but there is a reason why PC hardware is more expensive then consoles and it's only expected that given the right hardware a PC can take a multiplat game to a whole other level that a console can't touch.karasill

360 feels outdated compared to the PS3 sorry to say...KHAndAnime

No it doesn't. :|

Anyway, of course not. The only people saying consoles feel outdated are PC fanboys.

[QUOTE="Metroid_Other_M"]

I guess it has something to do with the hd consoles' unability to run games at 1080p at 60fps Gezo24

Have you ever seen MGS4 in 1080p?

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]360 feels outdated compared to the PS3 sorry to say...waltefmoney

No it doesn't. :|

Anyway, of course not. The only people saying consoles feel outdated are PC fanboys.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]360 feels outdated compared to the PS3 sorry to say...SamiRDuran

No it doesn't. :|

Anyway, of course not. The only people saying consoles feel outdated are PC fanboys.

How can anyone not have experienced PC gaming? Playing a flash game is also PC gaming. Playing WoW is PC gaming. And not playing on a PC means you have no hardware knowledge? Jesus that's hilarious. How about people that just don't like playing on a typing machine?

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]1080p at 60fps? What kind of PC do you have? :?mitu123

Not very amazing really, and it can be done for around 700-800.

[QUOTE="karasill"]Hmmm. Compare the console version of Battlefield Bad Compay 2 to the PC version running at twice the framerate with 8xAA and 16xAF at a higher resolution... The difference is night and day my friend. With that said there are still some console games that do impress me at a technical level. Don't get me wrong, I do love playing games on my console, but there is a reason why PC hardware is more expensive then consoles and it's only expected that given the right hardware a PC can take a multiplat game to a whole other level that a console can't touch.Download_Me

1080p at 60fps? What kind of PC do you have? :?SparkyProtocol

Probably one like mine or better. :P In the sig.

Depending on what game we're referring to.

My 260 GTX could max out almost every multiplat at 1080p with 60 fps, but the 480GTX just kills them. :D

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

No it doesn't. :|

Anyway, of course not. The only people saying consoles feel outdated are PC fanboys.

waltefmoney

How can anyone not have experienced PC gaming? Playing a flash game is also PC gaming. Playing WoW is PC gaming. And not playing on a PC means you have no hardware knowledge? Jesus that's hilarious. How about people that just don't like playing on a typing machine?

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

No it doesn't. :|

Anyway, of course not. The only people saying consoles feel outdated are PC fanboys.

waltefmoney

How can anyone not have experienced PC gaming? Playing a flash game is also PC gaming. Playing WoW is PC gaming. And not playing on a PC means you have no hardware knowledge? Jesus that's hilarious. How about people that just don't like playing on a typing machine?

[QUOTE="Metroid_Other_M"]

I guess it has something to do with the hd consoles' unability to run games at 1080p at 60fps Gezo24

Have you ever seen MGS4 in 1080p?

I guess it has something to do with the hd consoles' unability to run games at 1080p at 60fps and their lack in the exclusive department. Many pc gamers use this argument when comparing consoles with Pc, stating that the current systems are nothing more than crippled pc's, with a few exclusives here and there that are the only reason why someone would choose a console over a gaming rig.

but is there really such a huge difference between a pc multiplat and a console's? I guess there's not, considering that you play console games at a distance and you won't notice the graphical jaggies, while on Pc you usually sit very near the monitor, not to mention the fiddling with game settings in order to play it decently.

so, is the hassle really worth it when the difference are not night and day as someone would think?

Metroid_Other_M

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] and the people that say consoles are not outdated are console owners that never experienced pc gaming or simply lack any sort of knowledge about hardware.SamiRDuran

How can anyone not have experienced PC gaming? Playing a flash game is also PC gaming. Playing WoW is PC gaming. And not playing on a PC means you have no hardware knowledge? Jesus that's hilarious. How about people that just don't like playing on a typing machine?

Is the gap in multiplatform games that wide? Of course not. So, yes, PC has better graphics, what else is new? Console hardware is outdated. Yes, and? Console hardware will always be outdated. But does that make them bad for gaming? Of course not. I'm fine with the graphical level of console games at the moment. If all we get until the end of this generation is Uncharted 2 graphical quality, fine by me.

I could not run well AC2 on my 2-year old Pc, ran jerkly even at medium settings. while on the 360 it's pretty smooth and only looks slightly worse than the pc version

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