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It needs games that people would want to play on a handheld. I don't want to play uncharted and assassins creed on a handheld.
Well im asking you whole heartedly, what game would u need on vita. Give me an example. For example theirs word vita is going to get its own resident evil. Is that a bad thing to you?It needs games that people would want to play on a handheld. I don't want to play uncharted and assassins creed on a handheld.
mysticstryk
I couldn't care less about the Vita succeeding or failing to be honest. Handheld gaming has always felt second-rate to me. However, I do care about Sony, and the Vita failing is obviously bad for them, so I suppose I care about the Vita second-hand at least.
Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:ispeakfact
Looking at recent sales the amount of haters is staggering !
[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:Caseytappy
Looking at recent sales the amount of haters is staggering !
Don't you see the difference between a game like Uncharted or Starfox working for a handheld on the go ?
Nintendo knows what type of game works for it's machine , the way they designed Mario 3DS or Kid Icarus totally with the 3DS in mind is obvious once you play them , there's nothing wrong with Vita but the games .
But what i honestly want to know, from those vita haters....., is there seriously NOTHING VITA COULD EVER REALISTICALLY DO to earn your respect? Not ur purchase but at least ur respect? Will it seriously not matter what game vita ever gets?ms555
Why so serious? I'm joking most of the time. Vita and 3DS are just handhelds, don't care what happens to them really.
[QUOTE="Caseytappy"]
[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:g0ddyX
Looking at recent sales the amount of haters is staggering !
A handheld should not cost $250, have $40-$50 games, require proprietary storage and have watered down console experiences, so no.
Fair enough lol, im just glad you gave a logical answer haha. In my opinion, have u ever tried uncharted vita? Its actually pretty good for the go, it has many levels and each of the levels goes relativlpely quickly. Like res evil, they made sure u could whip it out and beat a level fast on a train ride, ya know?Don't you see the difference between a game like Uncharted or Starfox working for a handheld on the go ?
Nintendo knows what type of game works for it's machine , the way they designed Mario 3DS or Kid Icarus totally with the 3DS in mind is obvious once you play them , there's nothing wrong with Vita but the games .
Caseytappy
Though im not going pretend u have absolutely no way of complaining about vita, the "watered down console" theory is also a big logical fallacy. Only because what vita haters will call watered down console games on vita, they will call great new additions to the library on 3ds. But ive seen the arguments before, when somebody tries to argue u can apply the same logic to 3ds games, saying for example that mario 3d land is just a watered down mario galaxy, nintendo fans will suddenly claim nintendo games are the exception. Its basiclaly the equivalent of when kids at the park tag somebody and as soon as they do they say NO TAG BACKS!A handheld should not cost $250, have $40-$50 games, require proprietary storage and have watered down console experiences, so no.
PillyChickle
[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]Though im not going pretend u have absolutely no way of complaining about vita, the "watered down console" theory is also a big logical fallacy. Only because what vita haters will call watered down console games on vita, they will call great new additions to the library on 3ds. But ive seen the arguments before, when somebody tries to argue u can apply the same logic to 3ds games, saying for example that mario 3d land is just a watered down mario galaxy, nintendo fans will suddenly claim nintendo games are the exception. Its basiclaly the equivalent of when kids at the park tag somebody and as soon as they do they say NO TAG BACKS!A handheld should not cost $250, have $40-$50 games, require proprietary storage and have watered down console experiences, so no.
ms555
There is no comparison. You think you can compare the two simply because they're Mario games? :|
Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.
I don't, both are home console ip's designed around portables. I don't consider one more designed for portables than the other since both have unique controls,more save points,etc. I have just as much fun on resistance or unit 13 as 3ds users do mario or starfox, I feel sony knows perfectly what I want.Don't you see the difference between a game like Uncharted or Starfox working for a handheld on the go ?
Nintendo knows what type of game works for it's machine , the way they designed Mario 3DS or Kid Icarus totally with the 3DS in mind is obvious once you play them , there's nothing wrong with Vita but the games .
Caseytappy
Though im not going pretend u have absolutely no way of complaining about vita, the "watered down console" theory is also a big logical fallacy. Only because what vita haters will call watered down console games on vita, they will call great new additions to the library on 3ds. But ive seen the arguments before, when somebody tries to argue u can apply the same logic to 3ds games, saying for example that mario 3d land is just a watered down mario galaxy, nintendo fans will suddenly claim nintendo games are the exception. Its basiclaly the equivalent of when kids at the park tag somebody and as soon as they do they say NO TAG BACKS![QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]
A handheld should not cost $250, have $40-$50 games, require proprietary storage and have watered down console experiences, so no.
PillyChickle
There is no comparison. You think you can compare the two simply because they're Mario games? :|
Heres the funny thing, nintendo thesmelves made the comparison before i even did. They said mario galaxy is the feast to mario 3d lands burger. Miyamoto in an interview said that mario 3ds would be similar to a more bite sized mario galaxy. Thats nintendo themselves acknowledging mario 3d land is similar to mario galaxy only on a smaller scale.do the research, the proof is there just look for it[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:Caseytappy
Looking at recent sales the amount of haters is staggering !
I don't think you understand.
All Vita haters don't have a Vita, but not all people who don't have a Vita are Vita haters.
Basic logic.
You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless it had control capabilities like vita's dual analogs,2 touch surfaces,gyroscope.Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.
MicrosoftRules
[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless if had controls capabilities like vita dual analogs. A sports car is a PC, you're using a moped and sneering a bicycle. Good job! :PHere's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.
p4s2p0
[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless if had controls capabilities like vita dual analogs.Keep pretending there's no overlap with mobile and handheld gamers.Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.
p4s2p0
[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless if had controls capabilities like vita dual analogs. A sports car is a PC, you're using a moped and sneering a bicycle. Good job! :P That's a good one, but I would think of vita and 3ds as jets or helicopters since they can reach places cars can't. Phones would be hot air balloons lol.Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.
blue_hazy_basic
[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless if had controls capabilities like vita dual analogs.Keep pretending there's no overlap with mobile and handheld gamers. Agree both are portable and can be played anywhere,even have some of the same games. But they also differ just as much as overlap.Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.
MFDOOM1983
Lets put it simply, the logical fallacy with vita haters is a bit mind boggling lol. Their issue with vita is that it has no unique games. Then when people post on system wars "hey turns out a cool unique game is coming", the haters then say WHY BOTHER ITS DYING ANYWAYS, But the fact unique games are coming is the solution to the reason why they say vita is dying So whether thats what they intended to express or not, those kinds of people are saying sony shouldnt even be trying and vita should never get a solution. But when people ask them why they hate vita, they say ITS BECAUSE SONY ISNT TRYING VITA HASNT GOT A SOLUTION. Do you notice the logical fallacy here? But what i honestly want to know, from those vita haters....., is there seriously NOTHING VITA COULD EVER REALISTICALLY DO to earn your respect? Not ur purchase but at least ur respect? Will it seriously not matter what game vita ever gets? (and be realistic, cus vita isnt getting zelda and it isnt going to drop to 100 bucks haha) (on a side note, dont say THIS IS SYSTEM WARS IF ITS TOO HOT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.... Lets not forget at the computers of each of these posters is a human with reasonable and rationale qualities haha)ms555
The problem with the Vita is the same problem that was originally with the PS3. There is this "just wait, the games are still coming" attitude, but look at the history of the PS3. Where was the knockout games that was supposed to sell the system? The answer is it never happened besides some first party games that while great weren't the system seller that Sony was bragging about.
BTW I hope to someday to own a Vita, so I don't hate it and don't hope it fails. But realistically Sony hasn't done an impressive job with supporting it.
[QUOTE="ms555"]Lets put it simply, the logical fallacy with vita haters is a bit mind boggling lol. Their issue with vita is that it has no unique games. Then when people post on system wars "hey turns out a cool unique game is coming", the haters then say WHY BOTHER ITS DYING ANYWAYS, But the fact unique games are coming is the solution to the reason why they say vita is dying So whether thats what they intended to express or not, those kinds of people are saying sony shouldnt even be trying and vita should never get a solution. But when people ask them why they hate vita, they say ITS BECAUSE SONY ISNT TRYING VITA HASNT GOT A SOLUTION. Do you notice the logical fallacy here? But what i honestly want to know, from those vita haters....., is there seriously NOTHING VITA COULD EVER REALISTICALLY DO to earn your respect? Not ur purchase but at least ur respect? Will it seriously not matter what game vita ever gets? (and be realistic, cus vita isnt getting zelda and it isnt going to drop to 100 bucks haha) (on a side note, dont say THIS IS SYSTEM WARS IF ITS TOO HOT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.... Lets not forget at the computers of each of these posters is a human with reasonable and rationale qualities haha)menes777
The problem with the Vita is the same problem that was originally with the PS3. There is this "just wait, the games are still coming" attitude, but look at the history of the PS3. Where was the knockout games that was supposed to sell the system? The answer is it never happened besides some first party games that while great weren't the system seller that Sony was bragging about.
BTW I hope to someday to own a Vita, so I don't hate it and don't hope it fails. But realistically Sony hasn't done an impressive job with supporting it.
I feel u a bit...tho on a side note i know alot of people and have seen slot of people buy ls3 just to play uncharted[QUOTE="PillyChickle"][QUOTE="ms555"] Though im not going pretend u have absolutely no way of complaining about vita, the "watered down console" theory is also a big logical fallacy. Only because what vita haters will call watered down console games on vita, they will call great new additions to the library on 3ds. But ive seen the arguments before, when somebody tries to argue u can apply the same logic to 3ds games, saying for example that mario 3d land is just a watered down mario galaxy, nintendo fans will suddenly claim nintendo games are the exception. Its basiclaly the equivalent of when kids at the park tag somebody and as soon as they do they say NO TAG BACKS!ms555
There is no comparison. You think you can compare the two simply because they're Mario games? :|
Heres the funny thing, nintendo thesmelves made the comparison before i even did. They said mario galaxy is the feast to mario 3d lands burger. Miyamoto in an interview said that mario 3ds would be similar to a more bite sized mario galaxy. Thats nintendo themselves acknowledging mario 3d land is similar to mario galaxy only on a smaller scale.do the research, the proof is there just look for itThe clear difference is this: you get games developed by Nintendo's best teams on their handhelds, with Sony you get grade B and C devs to make games based off of console franchises that are of a much lower standard, look Resistance and Uncharted on the Vita and compare those to their console counterparts... 5.5 and 7.0? lol
Heres the funny thing, nintendo thesmelves made the comparison before i even did. They said mario galaxy is the feast to mario 3d lands burger. Miyamoto in an interview said that mario 3ds would be similar to a more bite sized mario galaxy. Thats nintendo themselves acknowledging mario 3d land is similar to mario galaxy only on a smaller scale.do the research, the proof is there just look for it[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]
There is no comparison. You think you can compare the two simply because they're Mario games? :|
PillyChickle
The clear difference is this: you get games developed by Nintendo's best teams on their handhelds, with Sony you get grade B and C devs to make games based off of console franchises that are of a much lower standard, look Resistance and Uncharted on the Vita and compare those to their console counterparts... 5.5 and 7.0? lol
3d land 8.0... A team... Bwahaha"want" implies desire... I don't care.
I wanted PSP to be great, but it wasn't and Vita seems like a barely upgraded PSP.
I Want Vita to die quickly if it's going to die. Do whatever it's going to do, but do it quickly because it's annoying to keep reading about it.
Is there a Hospice for failing video game systems?
[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]Well im asking you whole heartedly, what game would u need on vita. Give me an example. For example theirs word vita is going to get its own resident evil. Is that a bad thing to you?It needs games that people would want to play on a handheld. I don't want to play uncharted and assassins creed on a handheld.
ms555
Kinda. Games I imagine on the Vita are like Dissidia, FF6 or 7 remake, Phantasy Star Portable, Monster Hunter etc. The Vita (I own it so I can criticize it) is suffering from PSP issues all over again. While getting rid of one proprietary format, Sony ends up doing another proprietary format (UMD begone no insert Sony's own memory card format that no major company uses). We BC players are also waiting for PSN games and PSP titles to show up still on the system, and it doesn't help the fact that Sony's price points are not competing with the handheld market (at least Nintendo shifted their act).
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