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#1 ms555
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Lets put it simply, the logical fallacy with vita haters is a bit mind boggling lol. Their issue with vita is that it has no unique games. Then when people post on system wars "hey turns out a cool unique game is coming", the haters then say WHY BOTHER ITS DYING ANYWAYS, But the fact unique games are coming is the solution to the reason why they say vita is dying So whether thats what they intended to express or not, those kinds of people are saying sony shouldnt even be trying and vita should never get a solution. But when people ask them why they hate vita, they say ITS BECAUSE SONY ISNT TRYING VITA HASNT GOT A SOLUTION. Do you notice the logical fallacy here? But what i honestly want to know, from those vita haters....., is there seriously NOTHING VITA COULD EVER REALISTICALLY DO to earn your respect? Not ur purchase but at least ur respect? Will it seriously not matter what game vita ever gets? (and be realistic, cus vita isnt getting zelda and it isnt going to drop to 100 bucks haha) (on a side note, dont say THIS IS SYSTEM WARS IF ITS TOO HOT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.... Lets not forget at the computers of each of these posters is a human with reasonable and rationale qualities haha)
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#2 ispeakfact
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Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:
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#3 ms555
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Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:ispeakfact
Hahaha, may be kinda true
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#4 mysticstryk
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It needs games that people would want to play on a handheld. I don't want to play uncharted and assassins creed on a handheld.

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#5 ms555
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It needs games that people would want to play on a handheld. I don't want to play uncharted and assassins creed on a handheld.

mysticstryk
Well im asking you whole heartedly, what game would u need on vita. Give me an example. For example theirs word vita is going to get its own resident evil. Is that a bad thing to you?
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#6 jamejame
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I couldn't care less about the Vita succeeding or failing to be honest. Handheld gaming has always felt second-rate to me. However, I do care about Sony, and the Vita failing is obviously bad for them, so I suppose I care about the Vita second-hand at least.

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#7 MFDOOM1983
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People still complain about console franchises coming vita, but I never hear a peep about ports of console games(not handheld games with console ips attached to them) on 3ds from the same camp. Uncharted game designed specifically for a handheld? Boo. LOZ, starfox mgs 3 ports? Sign me up please.
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#8 Caseytappy
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Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:ispeakfact

Looking at recent sales the amount of haters is staggering !

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#9 ms555
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]People still complain about console franchises coming vita, but I never hear a peep about ports of console games(not handheld games with console ips attached to them) on 3ds from the same camp. Uncharted game designed specifically for a handheld? Boo. LOZ, starfox mgs 3 ports? Sign me up please.

Exactly thats one of the major issues, the problem is that proper reasoning requires u to apply the same logic to both nintendo and sony. But while people are too cruel to sony, they are way ro forgiving to nintnedo. If ports are bad on vita, then ports should technically be bad on 3ds. Theres no loophole to this haha.
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:Caseytappy

Looking at recent sales the amount of haters is staggering !



Vita is not primarily aimed at kids and casuals but gamers.
And price is an issue for most gamers. I think people are waiting for a price drop, Even though they know it is the best handheld out.

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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]People still complain about console franchises coming vita, but I never hear a peep about ports of console games(not handheld games with console ips attached to them) on 3ds from the same camp. Uncharted game designed specifically for a handheld? Boo. LOZ, starfox mgs 3 ports? Sign me up please.

Exactly thats one of the major issues, the problem is that proper reasoning requires u to apply the same logic to both nintendo and sony. But while people are too cruel to sony, they are way ro forgiving to nintnedo. If ports are bad on vita, then ports should technically be bad on 3ds. Theres no loophole to this haha.

The funny thing is that uncharted isn't even a port. It was designed to be played in 10-15 min chunks just like RE revelations. Hypocrites gonna hypocrite
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#12 ms555
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]People still complain about console franchises coming vita, but I never hear a peep about ports of console games(not handheld games with console ips attached to them) on 3ds from the same camp. Uncharted game designed specifically for a handheld? Boo. LOZ, starfox mgs 3 ports? Sign me up please.

Exactly thats one of the major issues, the problem is that proper reasoning requires u to apply the same logic to both nintendo and sony. But while people are too cruel to sony, they are way ro forgiving to nintnedo. If ports are bad on vita, then ports should technically be bad on 3ds. Theres no loophole to this haha.

The funny thing is that uncharted isn't even a port. It was designed to be played in 10-15 min chunks just like RE revelations. Hypocrites gonna hypocrite

Another funny thing is that some people then point out the bad score gamespot gave it, but then completely ignore that mario 3d lamd got about the same score haha. That doesnt mean they are both bad, but you cant say uncharted is bad cus its badly reviewed then ignore that mario 3d land was scored about the same
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Don't you see the difference between a game like Uncharted or Starfox working for a handheld on the go ?

Nintendo knows what type of game works for it's machine , the way they designed Mario 3DS or Kid Icarus totally with the 3DS in mind is obvious once you play them , there's nothing wrong with Vita but the games .

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But what i honestly want to know, from those vita haters....., is there seriously NOTHING VITA COULD EVER REALISTICALLY DO to earn your respect? Not ur purchase but at least ur respect? Will it seriously not matter what game vita ever gets?ms555

Why so serious? I'm joking most of the time. Vita and 3DS are just handhelds, don't care what happens to them really.

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#15 ms555
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[QUOTE="Caseytappy"]

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:g0ddyX

Looking at recent sales the amount of haters is staggering !



Vita is not primarily aimed at kids and casuals but gamers.
And price is an issue for most gamers. I think people are waiting for a price drop, Even though they know it is the best handheld out.

For vita haters thta just say they are waiting for the games or waiting for the price cuts, i have a bit more respect for the,. But for some people, unless vita sales surpass 3ds sales, they will never be satisfied. And considering 3ds has basically the entire child population of america as likely customers, vita sales wont surpass 3ds
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#16 PillyChickle
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A handheld should not cost $250, have $40-$50 games, require proprietary storage and have watered down console experiences, so no.

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Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:ispeakfact
The same can be say about the 3DS and 360 back on topic I want the vita to succeed and can't wait to see what games will come out for the vita
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#18 ms555
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Don't you see the difference between a game like Uncharted or Starfox working for a handheld on the go ?

Nintendo knows what type of game works for it's machine , the way they designed Mario 3DS or Kid Icarus totally with the 3DS in mind is obvious once you play them , there's nothing wrong with Vita but the games .

Caseytappy
Fair enough lol, im just glad you gave a logical answer haha. In my opinion, have u ever tried uncharted vita? Its actually pretty good for the go, it has many levels and each of the levels goes relativlpely quickly. Like res evil, they made sure u could whip it out and beat a level fast on a train ride, ya know?
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#19 ms555
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A handheld should not cost $250, have $40-$50 games, require proprietary storage and have watered down console experiences, so no.

PillyChickle
Though im not going pretend u have absolutely no way of complaining about vita, the "watered down console" theory is also a big logical fallacy. Only because what vita haters will call watered down console games on vita, they will call great new additions to the library on 3ds. But ive seen the arguments before, when somebody tries to argue u can apply the same logic to 3ds games, saying for example that mario 3d land is just a watered down mario galaxy, nintendo fans will suddenly claim nintendo games are the exception. Its basiclaly the equivalent of when kids at the park tag somebody and as soon as they do they say NO TAG BACKS!
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It needs games that people would want to play on a handheld. I don't want to play uncharted and assassins creed on a handheld.

mysticstryk
Uncharted being stop seller tells me plenty of people want to play it, even if you don't.
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little kings story is coming to the vita....i have to admit now the vita looks really tempting. as i understand it its a new game also...not a port of the wii game (which is also brilliant and shame on anyone who didnt get it...grrrr :P). that is also a game that, with a few tweaks, could really work very well on a handheld (going out boss hunting on the wii game needed some time...something to be addressed for a handheld version). really really tempting. if it turns out well then i may be adding a vita to my wish list. what else would make the vita really tempting for me? android. even if sony were to sell android for a few bob extra it could be really ace. if sony were to commit to bringing out the latest android as much as possibly to vita then i would be happy to shell out the full 40 or so euro for it. or have it as a 5 quid per update major update...im not fussy. i am looking out for a good and reasonably priced android device to play with development (the emulator in the SDK is really bad in my experience). hardware wise the vita is ideal. set it up as dual boot so i can select android or the vita OS when i turn the vita on and i would be really happy. that would really tip it to a sale for me. a good racer for on the move. unfortunately F1 sounds like it was a poor port. but a good racer is great to have while on the move. the 3DS so far has bupkis on this front (MK7 was very dissapointing imho). another game i really enjoyed on the PSp was dungeon siege. so a new hack and slasher like diablo/torchlight/dungeon siege would be good. unfortunately i am getting a bit hammered with this type of game. i just finished torchlight recently, torchlight 2 is on pre order and heroes of ruin its on its way to the 3DS on the 15th i think. so between those i am going to be hacked and lotted out :S. but still an ideal type of game to have on a portable. ooooh something like borderlands though would be brilliant. not borderlands itself as i would play that on my PC but something like that that is exclusive to vita and made by a top notch dev. something like civ would also be grerat for on the move. since the vita has a touch screen that type of game should be fine controls wise. so yeah....something like borderlands, little kings story, android, a good racer and Civ. these are things the 3DS is currently not doing and most of them sell (dam you humanity and your lack of love for LKS! ). oh and an elder scrolls....portable elder scrolls. oh yes please :D.
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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

A handheld should not cost $250, have $40-$50 games, require proprietary storage and have watered down console experiences, so no.

ms555

Though im not going pretend u have absolutely no way of complaining about vita, the "watered down console" theory is also a big logical fallacy. Only because what vita haters will call watered down console games on vita, they will call great new additions to the library on 3ds. But ive seen the arguments before, when somebody tries to argue u can apply the same logic to 3ds games, saying for example that mario 3d land is just a watered down mario galaxy, nintendo fans will suddenly claim nintendo games are the exception. Its basiclaly the equivalent of when kids at the park tag somebody and as soon as they do they say NO TAG BACKS!

There is no comparison. You think you can compare the two simply because they're Mario games? :|

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Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.

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[QUOTE="ms555"]Lets put it simply, the logical fallacy with vita haters is a bit mind boggling lol. Their issue with vita is that it has no unique games. Then when people post on system wars "hey turns out a cool unique game is coming", the haters then say WHY BOTHER ITS DYING ANYWAYS, But the fact unique games are coming is the solution to the reason why they say vita is dying So whether thats what they intended to express or not, those kinds of people are saying sony shouldnt even be trying and vita should never get a solution. But when people ask them why they hate vita, they say ITS BECAUSE SONY ISNT TRYING VITA HASNT GOT A SOLUTION. Do you notice the logical fallacy here? But what i honestly want to know, from those vita haters....., is there seriously NOTHING VITA COULD EVER REALISTICALLY DO to earn your respect? Not ur purchase but at least ur respect? Will it seriously not matter what game vita ever gets? (and be realistic, cus vita isnt getting zelda and it isnt going to drop to 100 bucks haha) (on a side note, dont say THIS IS SYSTEM WARS IF ITS TOO HOT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.... Lets not forget at the computers of each of these posters is a human with reasonable and rationale qualities haha)

Not gonna read (too tired), but for some reason people think that less competition and options is somehow great.
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#25 p4s2p0
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Don't you see the difference between a game like Uncharted or Starfox working for a handheld on the go ?

Nintendo knows what type of game works for it's machine , the way they designed Mario 3DS or Kid Icarus totally with the 3DS in mind is obvious once you play them , there's nothing wrong with Vita but the games .

Caseytappy
I don't, both are home console ip's designed around portables. I don't consider one more designed for portables than the other since both have unique controls,more save points,etc. I have just as much fun on resistance or unit 13 as 3ds users do mario or starfox, I feel sony knows perfectly what I want.
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#26 ms555
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

A handheld should not cost $250, have $40-$50 games, require proprietary storage and have watered down console experiences, so no.

PillyChickle

Though im not going pretend u have absolutely no way of complaining about vita, the "watered down console" theory is also a big logical fallacy. Only because what vita haters will call watered down console games on vita, they will call great new additions to the library on 3ds. But ive seen the arguments before, when somebody tries to argue u can apply the same logic to 3ds games, saying for example that mario 3d land is just a watered down mario galaxy, nintendo fans will suddenly claim nintendo games are the exception. Its basiclaly the equivalent of when kids at the park tag somebody and as soon as they do they say NO TAG BACKS!

There is no comparison. You think you can compare the two simply because they're Mario games? :|

Heres the funny thing, nintendo thesmelves made the comparison before i even did. They said mario galaxy is the feast to mario 3d lands burger. Miyamoto in an interview said that mario 3ds would be similar to a more bite sized mario galaxy. Thats nintendo themselves acknowledging mario 3d land is similar to mario galaxy only on a smaller scale.do the research, the proof is there just look for it
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[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]Psst, the issue with Vita haters is that they don't have one. :cool:Caseytappy

Looking at recent sales the amount of haters is staggering !

I don't think you understand.

All Vita haters don't have a Vita, but not all people who don't have a Vita are Vita haters.

Basic logic.

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If it leads to more threads like this then yes! :D
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[QUOTE="osan0"]little kings story is coming to the vita....i have to admit now the vita looks really tempting. as i understand it its a new game also...not a port of the wii game (which is also brilliant and shame on anyone who didnt get it...grrrr :P). that is also a game that, with a few tweaks, could really work very well on a handheld (going out boss hunting on the wii game needed some time...something to be addressed for a handheld version). really really tempting. if it turns out well then i may be adding a vita to my wish list. what else would make the vita really tempting for me? android. even if sony were to sell android for a few bob extra it could be really ace. if sony were to commit to bringing out the latest android as much as possibly to vita then i would be happy to shell out the full 40 or so euro for it. or have it as a 5 quid per update major update...im not fussy. i am looking out for a good and reasonably priced android device to play with development (the emulator in the SDK is really bad in my experience). hardware wise the vita is ideal. set it up as dual boot so i can select android or the vita OS when i turn the vita on and i would be really happy. that would really tip it to a sale for me. a good racer for on the move. unfortunately F1 sounds like it was a poor port. but a good racer is great to have while on the move. the 3DS so far has bupkis on this front (MK7 was very dissapointing imho). another game i really enjoyed on the PSp was dungeon siege. so a new hack and slasher like diablo/torchlight/dungeon siege would be good. unfortunately i am getting a bit hammered with this type of game. i just finished torchlight recently, torchlight 2 is on pre order and heroes of ruin its on its way to the 3DS on the 15th i think. so between those i am going to be hacked and lotted out :S. but still an ideal type of game to have on a portable. ooooh something like borderlands though would be brilliant. not borderlands itself as i would play that on my PC but something like that that is exclusive to vita and made by a top notch dev. something like civ would also be grerat for on the move. since the vita has a touch screen that type of game should be fine controls wise. so yeah....something like borderlands, little kings story, android, a good racer and Civ. these are things the 3DS is currently not doing and most of them sell (dam you humanity and your lack of love for LKS! ). oh and an elder scrolls....portable elder scrolls. oh yes please :D.

Elder scrolls portable would be ultimate haha, but i really womder if even vtia can handle an elder scrolls game. Thats gotta be tough to fit on a chip
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Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.

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You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless it had control capabilities like vita's dual analogs,2 touch surfaces,gyroscope.
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[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.

p4s2p0
You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless if had controls capabilities like vita dual analogs.

A sports car is a PC, you're using a moped and sneering a bicycle. Good job! :P
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[QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.

p4s2p0
You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless if had controls capabilities like vita dual analogs.

Keep pretending there's no overlap with mobile and handheld gamers.
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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.

blue_hazy_basic
You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless if had controls capabilities like vita dual analogs.

A sports car is a PC, you're using a moped and sneering a bicycle. Good job! :P

That's a good one, but I would think of vita and 3ds as jets or helicopters since they can reach places cars can't. Phones would be hot air balloons lol.
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I need more addictive stuff like patapon

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#35 RyanShazam
Member since 2006 • 6498 Posts
People on SW always want games and systems to fail. I thought everyone is use to this by now.
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#36 p4s2p0
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[QUOTE="p4s2p0"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

Here's the low down on dedicated handheld gaming... the rest of the world has phones for portable, cheap, time-wasters. I carefully choose my devices and the big three would be an entertainment device (console), a portable personal computer (laptop), and a pocket sized device for keeping up on-the-go (phone). I have zero percent interest in a devoted handheld gaming device.

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You mean the low down on cell phone games since you are not in the same market as we dedicated portable users are. Which would be like a sports car owner trying to explain why 4x4 aren't good vehicles. Another words you don't understand our market and just sound ridiculous. Not that there is anything wrong with phone gaming but I wouldn't be interested unless if had controls capabilities like vita dual analogs.

Keep pretending there's no overlap with mobile and handheld gamers.

Agree both are portable and can be played anywhere,even have some of the same games. But they also differ just as much as overlap.
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#37 themajormayor
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It already has games :?
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#38 lostrib
Member since 2009 • 49999 Posts

Too little too late?

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#39 menes777
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Lets put it simply, the logical fallacy with vita haters is a bit mind boggling lol. Their issue with vita is that it has no unique games. Then when people post on system wars "hey turns out a cool unique game is coming", the haters then say WHY BOTHER ITS DYING ANYWAYS, But the fact unique games are coming is the solution to the reason why they say vita is dying So whether thats what they intended to express or not, those kinds of people are saying sony shouldnt even be trying and vita should never get a solution. But when people ask them why they hate vita, they say ITS BECAUSE SONY ISNT TRYING VITA HASNT GOT A SOLUTION. Do you notice the logical fallacy here? But what i honestly want to know, from those vita haters....., is there seriously NOTHING VITA COULD EVER REALISTICALLY DO to earn your respect? Not ur purchase but at least ur respect? Will it seriously not matter what game vita ever gets? (and be realistic, cus vita isnt getting zelda and it isnt going to drop to 100 bucks haha) (on a side note, dont say THIS IS SYSTEM WARS IF ITS TOO HOT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.... Lets not forget at the computers of each of these posters is a human with reasonable and rationale qualities haha)ms555

The problem with the Vita is the same problem that was originally with the PS3. There is this "just wait, the games are still coming" attitude, but look at the history of the PS3. Where was the knockout games that was supposed to sell the system? The answer is it never happened besides some first party games that while great weren't the system seller that Sony was bragging about.

BTW I hope to someday to own a Vita, so I don't hate it and don't hope it fails. But realistically Sony hasn't done an impressive job with supporting it.

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#40 ms555
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[QUOTE="ms555"]Lets put it simply, the logical fallacy with vita haters is a bit mind boggling lol. Their issue with vita is that it has no unique games. Then when people post on system wars "hey turns out a cool unique game is coming", the haters then say WHY BOTHER ITS DYING ANYWAYS, But the fact unique games are coming is the solution to the reason why they say vita is dying So whether thats what they intended to express or not, those kinds of people are saying sony shouldnt even be trying and vita should never get a solution. But when people ask them why they hate vita, they say ITS BECAUSE SONY ISNT TRYING VITA HASNT GOT A SOLUTION. Do you notice the logical fallacy here? But what i honestly want to know, from those vita haters....., is there seriously NOTHING VITA COULD EVER REALISTICALLY DO to earn your respect? Not ur purchase but at least ur respect? Will it seriously not matter what game vita ever gets? (and be realistic, cus vita isnt getting zelda and it isnt going to drop to 100 bucks haha) (on a side note, dont say THIS IS SYSTEM WARS IF ITS TOO HOT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN.... Lets not forget at the computers of each of these posters is a human with reasonable and rationale qualities haha)menes777

The problem with the Vita is the same problem that was originally with the PS3. There is this "just wait, the games are still coming" attitude, but look at the history of the PS3. Where was the knockout games that was supposed to sell the system? The answer is it never happened besides some first party games that while great weren't the system seller that Sony was bragging about.

BTW I hope to someday to own a Vita, so I don't hate it and don't hope it fails. But realistically Sony hasn't done an impressive job with supporting it.

I feel u a bit...tho on a side note i know alot of people and have seen slot of people buy ls3 just to play uncharted
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#41 Far_RockNYC
Member since 2012 • 1244 Posts

Sony needs to move on , vita has no vida.

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#42 Far_RockNYC
Member since 2012 • 1244 Posts

Sony needs to move on , vita has no vida.

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#43 Far_RockNYC
Member since 2012 • 1244 Posts

Sony needs to move on , vita has no vida.

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#44 osan0
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="osan0"]little kings story is coming to the vita....i have to admit now the vita looks really tempting. as i understand it its a new game also...not a port of the wii game (which is also brilliant and shame on anyone who didnt get it...grrrr :P). that is also a game that, with a few tweaks, could really work very well on a handheld (going out boss hunting on the wii game needed some time...something to be addressed for a handheld version). really really tempting. if it turns out well then i may be adding a vita to my wish list. what else would make the vita really tempting for me? android. even if sony were to sell android for a few bob extra it could be really ace. if sony were to commit to bringing out the latest android as much as possibly to vita then i would be happy to shell out the full 40 or so euro for it. or have it as a 5 quid per update major update...im not fussy. i am looking out for a good and reasonably priced android device to play with development (the emulator in the SDK is really bad in my experience). hardware wise the vita is ideal. set it up as dual boot so i can select android or the vita OS when i turn the vita on and i would be really happy. that would really tip it to a sale for me. a good racer for on the move. unfortunately F1 sounds like it was a poor port. but a good racer is great to have while on the move. the 3DS so far has bupkis on this front (MK7 was very dissapointing imho). another game i really enjoyed on the PSp was dungeon siege. so a new hack and slasher like diablo/torchlight/dungeon siege would be good. unfortunately i am getting a bit hammered with this type of game. i just finished torchlight recently, torchlight 2 is on pre order and heroes of ruin its on its way to the 3DS on the 15th i think. so between those i am going to be hacked and lotted out :S. but still an ideal type of game to have on a portable. ooooh something like borderlands though would be brilliant. not borderlands itself as i would play that on my PC but something like that that is exclusive to vita and made by a top notch dev. something like civ would also be grerat for on the move. since the vita has a touch screen that type of game should be fine controls wise. so yeah....something like borderlands, little kings story, android, a good racer and Civ. these are things the 3DS is currently not doing and most of them sell (dam you humanity and your lack of love for LKS! ). oh and an elder scrolls....portable elder scrolls. oh yes please :D.

Elder scrolls portable would be ultimate haha, but i really womder if even vtia can handle an elder scrolls game. Thats gotta be tough to fit on a chip

oh yeah no problem. vita games come on 4GB sticks as far as i know. skyrim is only 5GB. the game wouldnt look as good as skyrim since the vita is not that powerful but it would still look significantly better than morrowind. the reduction in graphical quality would also reduce the size of the game. audio can also be compressed a bit more if needed. so getting it to fit on a vita cart wouldnt be a problem and if an xbox 1 can run an elder scrolls then a vita can certainly run an elder scrolls.
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#45 BrunoBRS
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of course i want it. vita being a solid competition puts nintendo on the edge. nintendo dropped the price when vita info started appearing, once the vita becomes a threat, nintendo will be forced to up their act again. but as far as wanting one for myself? pass.
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#46 PillyChickle
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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

[QUOTE="ms555"] Though im not going pretend u have absolutely no way of complaining about vita, the "watered down console" theory is also a big logical fallacy. Only because what vita haters will call watered down console games on vita, they will call great new additions to the library on 3ds. But ive seen the arguments before, when somebody tries to argue u can apply the same logic to 3ds games, saying for example that mario 3d land is just a watered down mario galaxy, nintendo fans will suddenly claim nintendo games are the exception. Its basiclaly the equivalent of when kids at the park tag somebody and as soon as they do they say NO TAG BACKS!ms555

There is no comparison. You think you can compare the two simply because they're Mario games? :|

Heres the funny thing, nintendo thesmelves made the comparison before i even did. They said mario galaxy is the feast to mario 3d lands burger. Miyamoto in an interview said that mario 3ds would be similar to a more bite sized mario galaxy. Thats nintendo themselves acknowledging mario 3d land is similar to mario galaxy only on a smaller scale.do the research, the proof is there just look for it

The clear difference is this: you get games developed by Nintendo's best teams on their handhelds, with Sony you get grade B and C devs to make games based off of console franchises that are of a much lower standard, look Resistance and Uncharted on the Vita and compare those to their console counterparts... 5.5 and 7.0? lol

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#47 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

There is no comparison. You think you can compare the two simply because they're Mario games? :|

PillyChickle

Heres the funny thing, nintendo thesmelves made the comparison before i even did. They said mario galaxy is the feast to mario 3d lands burger. Miyamoto in an interview said that mario 3ds would be similar to a more bite sized mario galaxy. Thats nintendo themselves acknowledging mario 3d land is similar to mario galaxy only on a smaller scale.do the research, the proof is there just look for it

The clear difference is this: you get games developed by Nintendo's best teams on their handhelds, with Sony you get grade B and C devs to make games based off of console franchises that are of a much lower standard, look Resistance and Uncharted on the Vita and compare those to their console counterparts... 5.5 and 7.0? lol

3d land 8.0... A team... Bwahaha
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#48 fadersdream
Member since 2006 • 3154 Posts

"want" implies desire... I don't care.

I wanted PSP to be great, but it wasn't and Vita seems like a barely upgraded PSP.

I Want Vita to die quickly if it's going to die. Do whatever it's going to do, but do it quickly because it's annoying to keep reading about it.

Is there a Hospice for failing video game systems?

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#49 meetroid8
Member since 2005 • 21152 Posts
I don't care, there's already a cheaper, better handheld out for me to purchase. Vita lost its chance.
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#50 Zanoh
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[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

It needs games that people would want to play on a handheld. I don't want to play uncharted and assassins creed on a handheld.

ms555

Well im asking you whole heartedly, what game would u need on vita. Give me an example. For example theirs word vita is going to get its own resident evil. Is that a bad thing to you?

Kinda. Games I imagine on the Vita are like Dissidia, FF6 or 7 remake, Phantasy Star Portable, Monster Hunter etc. The Vita (I own it so I can criticize it) is suffering from PSP issues all over again. While getting rid of one proprietary format, Sony ends up doing another proprietary format (UMD begone no insert Sony's own memory card format that no major company uses). We BC players are also waiting for PSN games and PSP titles to show up still on the system, and it doesn't help the fact that Sony's price points are not competing with the handheld market (at least Nintendo shifted their act).